View Full Version : How was this epy filmed? Did TPTB reshoot the crash?
davidbhammer 03-29-2007, 02:43 AM There were so many flashbacks and old characters that it felt like a reunion episode. They flashed back to the day of the crash along w/ almost everyday since and everything seemed in place. Did they re-film the crash? Did they edit in the randoms (Nikki, Paulo, Ethan, Artz etc)
Did TPTB know this episode was going to take place? I am very intrigued. All the main characters looked as they did the first episode but im sure if you go back, the randoms arent in the background. I for one loved this episode but am dying to know how it was filmed. Someone shed some light on this for me.
Clochard 03-29-2007, 02:54 AM I think they said they reused some of the footage (The bit where the guy gets sucked into the engine) - but parts of it were re-filmed, as initially they hadn't cast the roles of Ethan, Nikki, Paulo, Artz etc to specific people.
He11FiRe 03-29-2007, 02:56 AM It was very smooth, I agree. I was actually watching for screw ups and didn't really see anything major. I haven't rewatched the originals as reference, but it looked good to me.
Clochard 03-29-2007, 02:56 AM I honestly hope people don't go back and point out everything detail that's different..
Recreating a set like that must be extremely painful - if not costly - only to have us tear it all down.
He11FiRe 03-29-2007, 02:58 AM I hope they don't, as well, but I'm sure they will.
"Locke was carrying the guy with his right arm in the pilot and with his left in Expose! I'll never watch Lost again, this is the last straw!"
AbRuptPenguin 03-29-2007, 03:03 AM There were so many flashbacks and old characters that it felt like a reunion episode. They flashed back to the day of the crash along w/ almost everyday since and everything seemed in place. Did they re-film the crash? Did they edit in the randoms (Nikki, Paulo, Ethan, Artz etc)
Did TPTB know this episode was going to take place? I am very intrigued. All the main characters looked as they did the first episode but im sure if you go back, the randoms arent in the background. I for one loved this episode but am dying to know how it was filmed. Someone shed some light on this for me.
it seemed real dicey i def think that jack speach was re-shot atleast re-recorded alot of this ep felt recycled
NathanielStarr 03-29-2007, 03:10 AM They used some of the different camera angles which is clever and I could've swore she was digitally inserted into some of the original footage.
sk8rpro 03-29-2007, 03:27 AM I hope they don't, as well, but I'm sure they will.
"Locke was carrying the guy with his right arm in the pilot and with his left in Expose! I'll never watch Lost again, this is the last straw!"
You should give credit to the person who said that in the hated it thread ;)
Colonel Sanders 03-29-2007, 07:35 AM On one viewing...it really looks like TPTB did an excellent job of fitting these new scenes into the originals. Bravo!
Now.....I'm sure all the flubs will be found!
;)
RodimusBen 03-29-2007, 08:08 AM Yeah I was wondering the same thing. For them to put the entire crash scene back together for new filming was just incredible. The splicing between old footage and new was great too.
Anybody have a pen?
missioni 03-29-2007, 08:12 AM I thought that the film was spliced together astoundingly. They must have done some serious green screen work to impose the backgrounds. Some of the reshot cuts didn't quite fit due to the hair lengths and amounts of smoke, but I'm willing to let it slide. Someone carrying someone with both arms isn't going to make me stop watching the show.
ame en peine 03-29-2007, 08:17 AM They did a really great job incorporating old and new footage.. I'm hoping that some new findings will come out of the new footage and scenes that will shed some new light..
Other_brother 03-29-2007, 08:31 AM Maybe TPTB will go all "George Lucas", giving us a LOST Season 1: Special Edition, incorporating all the Pikki, Ethan, etc. stuff into the first eppy
;)
Or not...
desmondslosthairstraighteners 03-29-2007, 09:03 AM I thought it was extremely well done, when watching it i was like how the hell did they do that? At first i thought they super emposed them onto a green screen on the pilot footage, but then i saw Boone and his stupid long hair (which gave away that they re shot some of it), in reality they probably did both though and they did it really well IMO.
Boone almost ruined it though with his hair, why didn't he just get it cut for that episode like it was in season 1, does his hair really mean that much to him ffs? There were probably other faults but they were too minor for me to notice, the Boone one though stood out like a sore thumb. Frickin Boone, glad he's dead.
danl08 03-29-2007, 09:15 AM I honestly hope people don't go back and point out everything detail that's different..
Recreating a set like that must be extremely painful - if not costly - only to have us tear it all down.
I think there are going to be many differeces and I think they will be intentional. Just as we have the instance of the stewardess saying slightly different things during the crash I think we will find that the flashbacks in the airport will show slightly different outcomes. As will the crash itself. These will not be "production errors" or "continuity" issues. These will be intentional to show that there are different versions of all of these events.
Number 6 03-29-2007, 09:53 AM Not that I'm a TV producer or anything (I have a soul), but I'm sure that when they originally shot the crash scene in the pilot, everything was shot from mulitiple angles. Like the guy getting sucked into the jet engine. For an effect like that, they'll film it from three or four angles and use the best one. What we saw was probably an alternate take. I'm sure that was how they delivered a lot of last nights show, using b-roll footage from the pilot, cleverly spliced in with new characters and dialogue where necessary.
I'll be rewatching the pilot tonight though just to see any easter eggs though.
Anybody see Rose in the crash?
EvilMonkey 03-29-2007, 09:55 AM Boone almost ruined it though with his hair, why didn't he just get it cut for that episode like it was in season 1, does his hair really mean that much to him ffs? There were probably other faults but they were too minor for me to notice, the Boone one though stood out like a sore thumb. Frickin Boone, glad he's dead.
Not sure when this ep was shot, but one possible explaination might be that the schedule conflicted with one of his other projects (he is listed in IMDB as being in 2 other TV series). Perhaps he required the long hair for one of these so couldn't cut it for the Lost shoot. Just a thought.
I will go back to quietly lurking now.
lostgurl 03-29-2007, 10:07 AM I hope they don't, as well, but I'm sure they will.
"Locke was carrying the guy with his right arm in the pilot and with his left in Expose! I'll never watch Lost again, this is the last straw!"
I honestly hope people don't go back and point out everything detail that's different..
Oh you know that's going to happen, and I'm dreading it. I thought it looked great the first time around, no need to go check if someone was wearing the same color shoes or not.
razzie33 03-29-2007, 10:11 AM All I kept thinking was "wow what EXCELLENT editing" - it was seamless.
Fierro 03-29-2007, 10:15 AM Not that I'm a TV producer or anything (I have a soul), but I'm sure that when they originally shot the crash scene in the pilot, everything was shot from mulitiple angles. Like the guy getting sucked into the jet engine. For an effect like that, they'll film it from three or four angles and use the best one. What we saw was probably an alternate take. I'm sure that was how they delivered a lot of last nights show, using b-roll footage from the pilot, cleverly spliced in with new characters and dialogue where necessary.
I'll be rewatching the pilot tonight though just to see any easter eggs though.
Anybody see Rose in the crash?
I didn't spot her but Boon was still looking for a pen...
JoZay 03-29-2007, 10:22 AM It was very smooth, I agree. I was actually watching for screw ups and didn't really see anything major.
I haven't rewatched the originals as reference, but it looked good to me.
OMG don't even think about re-watching the originals to compare - can you imagine the hot air that would be floating about on the net? My monitor will get fogged up.
Lets just enjoy the ep for what it was.
lostfan80 03-29-2007, 11:40 AM I hope they don't, as well, but I'm sure they will.
"Locke was carrying the guy with his right arm in the pilot and with his left in Expose! I'll never watch Lost again, this is the last straw!"
:lol:
modkittn 03-29-2007, 11:57 AM Maybe TPTB will go all "George Lucas", giving us a LOST Season 1: Special Edition, incorporating all the Pikki, Ethan, etc. stuff into the first eppy
;)
Or not...
:rotflmao2:
I_Miss_Boone 03-29-2007, 02:36 PM You do see Jack giving CPR to someone - it appears to be Rose as in the Pilot epi.
bobblebob 03-29-2007, 04:10 PM What was the pen reference all about? Went over my head that one
angelsflame265 03-29-2007, 04:38 PM What was the pen reference all about? Went over my head that one
In the first episode Boone was trying to do the heimlich maneuver on someone (who we later learned was Rose) and Jack told him he was doing it wrong, and started to do it himself. Boone then says something about a pen helping and Jack tells him "Yeah, sure, go find me a pen."
And later he comes up to Jack with like 5 pens saying he "didn't know which one worked best."
It was really funny to see Boone freaking out about the pens though.
"DO YOU HAVE ANY PENS!?!?!!??!"
duckab234 03-29-2007, 04:43 PM Maybe TPTB will go all "George Lucas", giving us a LOST Season 1: Special Edition, incorporating all the Pikki, Ethan, etc. stuff into the first eppy
;)
Or not...
i've been hoping for a Back to the Future: Special Edition, with characters from part 2 spliced in the prom scene at the end..like maybe a small marty mcfly running past in the background, or blurry in the back of a shot when he hides to avoid his BTTF1 self. i don't think i'll ever get it though.
Nevermore 03-29-2007, 05:31 PM Okay, a few things:
1) They used at least three different techniques.
First, they recycled some footage directly from the Pilot.
Second, they reshot some scenes. They're acutally keeping the pieces of the fuselage on Dillingham Airfield, which is just a mile or two from the beach they're shooting at. LINK (http://www.lostvirtualtour.com/lost/filming_locations/dillinghamfuselage/)
Third, they greenscreened some new footage over stuff from the pilot. There was one obvious scene where Nikki was staring at the wreckage which was originally Jack's perspective from the Pilot. Scene from the Pilot (http://www.sparklies.org/gallery/displayimage.php?album=3&pos=83) Scene from Exposé (http://gallery.lost-media.com/displayimage-1269-840.html)
Rose was there. Granted, it was only recycled footage from the Pilot, but she was there. Rose in Exposé (http://gallery.lost-media.com/displayimage-1269-863.html)
Aside from Boone, there was another mismatch with Tourniquet Man. In the pilot, he was shaved; in the new footage, he had a beard. However, this is really hard to see as his face only glimpses on the screen for a second or so, and then it's quickly rushing through the screen. You can have a better look at it in the official promo images. Exposé Tourniquet Man (http://gallery.lost-media.com/displayimage-1265-8.html) Pilot Tourniquet Man (http://www.sparklies.org/gallery/displayimage.php?album=3&pos=88)
BoogaFrito 03-29-2007, 06:10 PM I honestly hope people don't go back and point out everything detail that's different..One half will defiantly point out the inconsistencies, while the other half will defiantly insist they're clues!
bumpygrimes 03-29-2007, 06:23 PM I sat there with my mouth wide open in amazement during that scene. Bravo to TPTB for recreating the crash set!
Although I did notice that the fourth tree from the right was blowing north instead of northeast. :biggrin:
KingMe122o 03-29-2007, 07:12 PM One half will defiantly point out the inconsistencies, while the other half will defiantly insist they're clues!
Haha, a small percentage yelling at the arguing people, yelling "THEY DID THE BEST THEY COULD!!!!"
Quinch 03-29-2007, 07:16 PM I hope they don't, as well, but I'm sure they will.
"Locke was carrying the guy with his right arm in the pilot and with his left in Expose! I'll never watch Lost again, this is the last straw!"
But don't you see - that proves that they're now in an alternate universe :rolleyes:
Nevermore 03-29-2007, 07:57 PM BTW, I need to check to make sure, but I believe the scene where Nikki and Paulo are looking up to the Beechcraft hanging on the cliff was also new footage of Nikki and Paulo greenscreened over footage from "Deus Ex Machina", as the Beechcraft should now be in a pretty bad condition.
Basically, anything that involves large scale recreations (Fuselage with wing still attached, mostly intact Beechcraft etc.) is either recycled footage or new footage greenscreened over old footage. Anything that features Nikki, Paulo, Arzt and Ethan in front of a limited perspective backdrop (i.e. small pieces of plane wreckage) that could be easily recreated without too much effort is entirely new footage.
kadayi_polokov 03-29-2007, 09:10 PM I thought they did a bang up job, naturally there were bound to be inconsistencies (the beard on the leg dude), but overall it was effective.
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