So now they can walk through the fence towards the village, but can't walk back out without changing it? Or did it just change a frequency? Sonic frequency makes sense i guess with injuring humans like Mikhail, but when she flipped that switch, it reminded me of positive and negative forces in magnetism. Opposites attract, but a positive and positive will repel, which could keep the monster from crossing the barrier. The monster would have to be a bunch of nano ferromagnetic fluid material. I'm rambling. Sorry for this. I don't know, that fence is bugging me.

I'm not exactly sure what you're getting at (it's very late and I need sleep), but I think all Juliet did was turn the fence back on. The others had turned it off to leave (I think she said something to the effect of "we turned it off"), so her and Kate simply went thru, then Juliet reactivated it to stop Smokey.

I think it's much easier than that. After Juliet keyed in the code and lifted the lid over the control, it looked to me like the control was turned off. And later in the episode she confirmed to Kate it was off so Kate would run through it to the "Other" side (Oh, pun, pun - I'm just breaking myself up)

You do see Juliet turn the dial and it lights up red to show it is on.

Anyone else laugh at Kate holding her hands over her ears and running as fast as possible through the perimeter, as if that would do any good?

It was just turned off. Ugh. It's late for me too.....long day. Thanks very much for the replies.

Copy/Pasted from my now closed thread:

So, either the rest of the others turned the fence off and left it off on their way out (in which case, how/why would Juliet know it's been turned off just by looking at one of the pylons).

Or, the fence was off all along - and for some reason only hurt Mikhail.

Can Smokey only fly so high? Couldn't it have gone over the fence?

Did we see the code that Juliet pressed on the number box thing? I wonder if the code is the numbers. Although, that wouldn't be a very good idea considering the numbers are everywhere on the island.

Did we see the code that Juliet pressed on the number box thing? I wonder if the code is the numbers. Although, that wouldn't be a very good idea considering the numbers are everywhere on the island.


ok, so i slow-mo'ed the scene, and saw the code. 1-6-2-3.

HOWEVER, there is a moment when juliette is at the keypad, but the camera hasnt switched to the 'behind her' view. so, there could of been additional numbers entered before we could see.

I don't get why the others wouldn't "turn the fence back on" after they passed through. If it is a device to keep smokey out...why would they leave it off. Unless....they wanted it to get Jack, Kate, Juliet and/or Sayid because they were safe wherever they went.

Or, the fence was off all along - and for some reason only hurt Mikhail.

That is assuming that it actually did hurt Mikhail in the first place. I mean, no-one even bothered to check if he was still breathing.

That is assuming that it actually did hurt Mikhail in the first place. I mean, no-one even bothered to check if he was still breathing.

I agree nevermore, i don't think it was the fence that killed patchy, if he is indeed even dead

I don't get why the others wouldn't "turn the fence back on" after they passed through. If it is a device to keep smokey out...why would they leave it off. Unless....they wanted it to get Jack, Kate, Juliet and/or Sayid because they were safe wherever they went.
maybe the keypad is only on the inside. I have to check that scene again to see if there were 2, one inside and one outside. I assume there should be one outside, otherwise how do they get to the barracks?

Juliet knowing that the fence was off destroys even more of her credibility about being "left behind". Unless of course, it is protocol to turn off all sonic fences when moving to a new hideout.

I also suspect that Mikhael/Patchy is not dead, but how did he get the blood to shoot out of his ears so convincingly?

Can Smokey only fly so high? Couldn't it have gone over the fence?

Excellent question.....

I am going to assume that the Others turned the fence off when they left to where ever they are going so that they could pass safely through. There was no need to turn it back on, because they didn't care about the safety of the people they "left behind". I am also guessing that Smokey can't travel to the other island, and if that's where the Others went then they knew they would be safe. But that doesn't tell us if the powered up fence is a danger to both Smokey and humans (i.e. Mikhail), or to JUST Smokey.

That leads into my other thoughts...which I'm still trying to work out in my head but will try to explain here. We still don't know what "the sickness" is, or what the "vaccine" is for we have seen Desmond inject himself with and a couple of other people as well. Could it be possible that Smokey actually "infects" people, and the fence killed Mikhail because he was infected with Smokey? That could explain Mikhail's comment of how he would die before taking them to the compound. He knew that because he was infected, the fence would be triggered by his presence and kill him while preventing Smokey from entering the camp. His comment to Sayid also raises some suspicions too..he said something like "there will be a time when your defenses are down, and I will not hesitate to kill you". Did Mikhail/Smokey know that the fence would eventually be powered down, giving him an opportunity to enter the camp unscathed? Hmmm.... am I making any sense? lol Thoughts please!

I think that maybe you are reaching too far. I think that the "sickness" is another mind game being played. And, you should also listen to your voice messages and return calls to your friends.

it is possible the shots stopps smokey from seeing them or seeing into them. a replenant.. only explaination i can come up with when it got to julia.. it felt as though it was taking pictures of her - a flash, but it could be the shots stop the smoking from accessing them or gives "good " symbol.. keeping it still alive to respond to noises or movement, which it appeared to do.. all imo

it is possible the shots stopps smokey from seeing them or seeing into them. a replenant.. only explaination i can come up with when it got to julia.. it felt as though it was taking pictures of her - a flash, but it could be the shots stop the smoking from accessing them or gives "good " symbol.. keeping it still alive to respond to noises or movement, which it appeared to do.. all imo

Ok, I may not have very many posts, but isn't it helpful to use sentences and grammar? I think what you are saying is, that the shots "mark them" as being good. Is that right?

Can Smokey only fly so high? Couldn't it have gone over the fence?

i believe its been pretty much confirmed from most of the previous scenes we've seen of Smokie that it has the ability to fly extremely high. this was also evident when it killed Eko elevating him to a great height before finally killing him. the thing is, there is no point for it to be that high when its trying to attack Juliet on the ground. Furthur more, the fence is something we know is there but cant see. it should fly above it in the event it knows a barrier exists that can harm/stop it which it obviously didnt.

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Could it be possible that Smokey actually "infects" people, and the fence killed Mikhail because he was infected with Smokey? That could explain Mikhail's comment of how he would die before taking them to the compound.

that comment's context was he would rather be killed than lead the Losties to his people, not that he knew of his impending death. thats why he stayed silent when Sayid showed him his maps were all he needed, not his knowledge. its why he thanked Locke for placing him within the fence which killed him.

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Anybody thinking Bakunin pretended to be dead?

its why he thanked Locke for placing him within the fence which killed him.

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So is this a fence, or like an entire area that is protected? Because when Locke pushed him, he went well past the line between the two pylons. He was inside the fence. Even after they went "over" it, they would have still been within it's protected barrier, then they should have died as well, right? Or is it just that there is a sudden reaction as you pass between the pylons, it may just take it a few seconds to actually kill you?

ok, so i slow-mo'ed the scene, and saw the code. 1-6-2-3.

HOWEVER, there is a moment when juliette is at the keypad, but the camera hasnt switched to the 'behind her' view. so, there could of been additional numbers entered before we could see.The first part was 4-8-1-5.

Anybody thinking Bakunin pretended to be dead?From what I have read quite a few people, but I don't think he's alive. Too convincing of a death for me.