Could Locke become the leader of the Others? Could they be taking him to the heart of the island? maybe some temple or somewhere that has to do with the 4 toed monster?

Where ever they went I don't think Locke would leave the island.

I don't think they are leaving the island either. Maybe the camp is an illusion for those recruited by the Others (like Juliette) and there is really a different home base.

They're either going underground or to the sky Island. And yes, I do think Locke may become the de facto leader of the Others.

My guess is they are headed to wherever the children are being kept. They weren't in the barracks

They're either going ... or to the sky Island.

The would explain Billy Dee in the Expose episode! (Lando & cloud city)

I know it was bad...

:biggrin:

Locke's mother stated he was "magnificently concieved" or somthing like that (cant remember), and Ben (as Henry Gale) stated he came for him. He is in tune with island, Ben is now ultra fascinated with him and we know Juliet was involved with fertility experiments and Sun may possibly be pregnant although Jin is sterile. Maybe this guy is their next leader. Their culture may have prophesized his arrival or something. Regardless, im reaching as far as the eye can see and i dont think ANY of this had to do wit the thread so.........yea

P.Stone

They're either going underground or to the sky Island. And yes, I do think Locke may become the de facto leader of the Others.

Do you really think Ben would just hand it over?

I think Locke's mother said that he was "immaculately conceived".

I keep thinking back to the last episode, with the Cobra being revealed to be a very unlikely person and with so many mysteries still surrounding Locke, I am wondering whether "Jacob" be a code name for the Others current leader, with Locke being considered to become the new "Jacob"?

Do you really think Ben would just hand it over?

Remember, Ben is not the true leader of the others. Jacob is.

Maybe they are on their way to see Jacob. :undecide:

Remember, Ben is not the true leader of the others. Jacob is.

Maybe they are on their way to see Jacob. :undecide:

I agree that they may be on their way to see Jacob, or at least to communicate with Jacob. I know their means of communication was shut down ever since the hatch exploded ("purple sky event"), but I mean come on, they have to have some kind of back up plan.

And yes I also agree that Locke will become some kind of de facto leader. Ben has always said that Locke is one of the "good" ones. They're using him just as Locke wants to use them..

Locke went to ask Jacob what one snowman said to the other

it will complete the prophecy

Remember, Ben is not the true leader of the others. Jacob is.

Maybe they are on their way to see Jacob. :undecide:

And when we find out where Jacob is, could we also find that the DeGroots, Candle, et at there as well?

Locke saw the map in "Lockdown"...he knows where they hide their secrets; as they dont know that HE knows, he's going with them. !!

Locke's never been 'with' the Losties, from the very start he's not wanted to leave the island, revelling in his new life, looking for meaning at various stages - with the hatch, the button, etc. Now he's just carrying that on. I don't think he has, or ever has had, any fraternity with the Losties and I don't think there's any reason to assume that he has any more feeling for the Others. He's just continuing his 'quest', he's on his own, and always has been.

Barracks implies a very militaristic housing structure. And although it was "homey" I think it has always been temporary until the chosen one arrived. That chosen one is Locke, whom like Moses, will lead his people -- the family he's been searching for his entire life.

However, Ben, the evil manipulator, will have to be defeated.

As to where they're going . . . I hope you're right about some ancient village where they worshipped Four Toed Gods or something because I still thaink about that thing to this day!

We were lead to believe that Locke had made some kindof pact with Ben and was going off on some adventure with him and the Others. But Iam not giving up on Locke ! i think that this is just part of his plan. Locke doesn't trust Ben, and I suspect that Ben doesn't trust Locke either. They are basically using each other to gain more knowledge that each desires. With that said, I believe Locke views the Losties as his family, whatever he is doing is for the Greater Good . See I think TPTB are trying to make us believe that Locke is turning into a bad guy, someone who is only invested in his own wants and desires. But I think this is just a smoke screen. I have much faith in Locke and no matter how bad it looks, he is going to be one of our Good Guys !

See I think TPTB are trying to make us believe that Locke is turning into a bad guy, someone who is only invested in his own wants and desires. But I think this is just a smoke screen. I have much faith in Locke and no matter how bad it looks, he is going to be one of our Good Guys ![/QUOTE]

I agree, I think they have used Locke's flashbacks to undermine his credibilty with viewers. Compared to his persona in the first season he has seemed wimpy and kind of pathetic this season. We never would have believed that season one Locke could be turned by the others, but now it seems more plausible. I think he is infiltrating them to bring them down, he'll be portrayed as a villain but will ultimately become a hero.

Another thing I've been considering is the whole "Locke could be Jacob" thing. What if Jacob is a chosen one who has been prophesized, and in the others eyes Locke fits the prophecy. He is exploiting this to gain access to their inner sanctum.

P.Stone, you brought up an important foreshadowing moment when you mentioned Locke's mother telling him he was "immaculately conceived".

I just re-watched Season 1.

The more interesting foreshadowing moment was when Locke told his father what his mother said. Anthony Cooper laughingly replied, "I guess that makes me God."

Hmmmmmm.

I don't think they are leaving the island either. Maybe the camp is an illusion for those recruited by the Others (like Juliette) and there is really a different home base.

We never saw any of the abductees in Otherville (such as the kids). Maybe they are in the "other" place that Locke and company are going to.

When Kate bursts in on Jack, playing piano, he tells her that the kids are "safe".
From what? Smokey? Or is there a greater danger that the Losties know nothing about?

See I think TPTB are trying to make us believe that Locke is turning into a bad guy, someone who is only invested in his own wants and desires. But I think this is just a smoke screen. I have much faith in Locke and no matter how bad it looks, he is going to be one of our Good Guys !

I agree, I think they have used Locke's flashbacks to undermine his credibilty with viewers. Compared to his persona in the first season he has seemed wimpy and kind of pathetic this season. We never would have believed that season one Locke could be turned by the others, but now it seems more plausible. I think he is infiltrating them to bring them down, he'll be portrayed as a villain but ultimately become a hero.

Another thing I've been considering is the whole "Locke could be Jacob" thing. What if Jacob is a chosen one who has been prophesized, and in the others eyes Locke fits the prophecy. He is exploiting this to gain access to their inner sanctum.[/quote]

I agree that they may be making him look like an "other" in training but I believe Locke is there to take over the others FROM Ben who has made an abomination of whatever mission they had to begin with.

Eventually Locke will take them over and then give the sub to the Losties so they can get rescue.

let's say the others are on their way to meet jacob.

jacob chooses locke to replace ben and a fight
ensues. locke wins and ben dies (?).

locke is ordered to drive the losties back
to the other side of the island or is ordered
to kill them.

locke is conflicted but goes into battle with
the losties. at the last minute locke kills
jacob and replaces him.

meanwhile, jack, sawyer and desmond
lead the losties on a mission to survive
and to get off the island.

and that's season 4.


it could happen.

let's say the others are on their way to meet jacob.

jacob chooses locke to replace ben and a fight
ensues. locke wins and ben dies (?).

locke is ordered to drive the losties back
to the other side of the island or is ordered
to kill them.

locke is conflicted but goes into battle with
the losties. at the last minute locke kills
jacob and replaces him.

meanwhile, jack, sawyer and desmond
lead the losties on a mission to survive
and to get off the island.

and that's season 4.


it could happen.

Very Star Wars like when the emperor wanted Luke to kill him fulfill his destiny.
100%
And when we find out where Jacob is, could we also find that the DeGroots, Candle, et at there as well?

I don't think so. They are part of Dharma, and I don't think the others are Dharma. I don't know what they are, but I think Dharma is different.

But I am not giving up on Locke! I think that this is just part of his plan. Locke doesn't trust Ben, and I suspect that Ben doesn't trust Locke either. They are basically using each other to gain more knowledge that each desires. With that said, I believe Locke views the Losties as his family, whatever he is doing is for the Greater Good . See I think TPTB are trying to make us believe that Locke is turning into a bad guy, someone who is only invested in his own wants and desires. But I think this is just a smoke screen. I have much faith in Locke and no matter how bad it looks, he is going to be one of our Good Guys !

I like this idea. It reminds me of Snape, who has definitely done some bad-looking things, but always seemed to do them in the best interest of Harry. Harry Potter Spoiler: possibly even in book 6... Locke always seems to be a step ahead of everyone else, like with the C4 for instance, and I definitely think he's playing with the Others, and he hasn't turned on our Losties. Think how satisfying it will be if in the finale Locke turns on all the Others and totally saves the Losties! Ahhh, I'd be so happy! :biggrin:

I like this idea. It reminds me of Snape, who has definitely done some bad-looking things, but always seemed to do them in the best interest of Harry. Harry Potter Spoiler: possibly even in book 6... Locke always seems to be a step ahead of everyone else, like with the C4 for instance, and I definitely think he's playing with the Others, and he hasn't turned on our Losties. Think how satisfying it will be if in the finale Locke turns on all the Others and totally saves the Losties! Ahhh, I'd be so happy! :biggrin:

I think Locke is more likely to appear on a hill after the Others storm the beach and he is giving orders. The it goes black to the LOST logo for the season.:rolleyes: