Locke's behavior is becoming increasingly disturbing. In particular I thought last night's conversation between Locke and Kate was particularly odd if not hypocritical. I'm referring to the part where Locke is expressing shock and contempt about Kate's past.

I mean, here is a guy who has for the past few weeks of the show has begun to act increasingly like a terrorist:

1: Pushing a defenseless man to his death.

2: Blowing up a house that did not belong to him.

3: Blowing up a submarine that did not belong to him

4: Holding a young woman hostage.

Not to mention, he still apparently has megalomaniacal delusions of grandeur that are apparently being actively fostered by Ben.

Hopefully Locke and the Others will all go drink koolaid together and the island will be a much happier place.

Jim Jones? No I don't think so. Now I can totally see Locke being in Jim Jones cult.
Seems Locke has spent many a year of his life doing what ever he could to fit in some where. Like when he was living at the compound. I just don't see him as a leader.

I was almost ready to post something along these lines.

Some of us think that Locke has led the others to unlock the mysteries of the island and that probably means 'getting back to nature' in order to 'commune' with it like Locke has. We know that Ben desperately wants this.

The others have been living in their psuedo suburbia and despite living years on the island might not have any clue as to how to live 'in the wild'. I live in a rural area where the landscape is prety wild. I could camp out there but I don't know if I could survive out there for a long period of time all on my own. I have no idea how to hunt or gather food despite having lived here a long time. Just because you 'live' in a certain location it doesn't mean you also 'know' a lot about it.

They will have to depend on and trust Locke. I believe Locke will do his best for them but I wouldn't put it past him to burn otherville to the ground so they can't go back there...for their 'own good'.

IF something happens to Ben and if the others are 'out there' they might have no choice but to make Locke their leader. He would be able to find water, kill boar, face off with Smokey and just keep them alive.

Now would he become a Jim Jones type leader? I don't know but I do eventually see a face off between Jack and Locke.

Some of us think that Locke has led the others to unlock the mysteries of the island and that probably means 'getting back to nature' in order to 'commune' with it like Locke has. We know that Ben desperately wants this.

They will have to depend on and trust Locke. I believe Locke will do his best for them but I wouldn't put it past him to burn otherville to the ground so they can't go back there...for their 'own good'. IF something happens to Ben and if the others are 'out there' they might have no choice but to make Locke their leader. He would be able to find water, kill boar, face off with Smokey and just keep them alive.

Just because the Others moved into the barracks does not mean they have forgotten how to live on their own. I think the reason the island is so upset is because they have chosen not to depend on it (her? him?) for their sustenance not because they have forgotten.

We have seen them moving through the jungle –many, if not most, have clothes just for it. They’ve had no camping equipment with them and traveled light depending on the island (I must assume). I imagine many of the Others could teach Locke a thing or two about surviving on the island. He knows how to do stuff but has no practical experience in actually doing it. Locke looks pretty good when compared to the city bred Losties but may not look as good when compared to the jungle bred Others.

Right now it is Ben not the Others that needs Locke. He needs to get on his feet ASAP if he wants to keep his leadership. I doubt if Ben will let Locke get too close the other Others. Locke has one loyalty (the island) and that is the wrong loyalty to be an Other. Locke is an outsider and will never be shown all the Others secrets for that reason. Not to mention what Locke said himself last night –the Others are not a forgiving people and Locke has obviously forgotten he recently killed one in cold blood. You can be sure Ben has not forgotten.

Ben is simply using him. He knows what Locke is emotionally invested in (the island) and he will exploit that for his own purposes. But Locke is so desperate for approval he is overlooking this fact. He lectures Kate when he has done much worse himself. When Ben gets what he needs out of Locke, Locke will wake one morning to find himself “left behind”.

I just thought it was really odd that Locke got all judgmental about Kate being a criminal-uhhh, didn't Locke run a pot farm?? Last time I checked, that was also on the wrong side of the law, so why get all preachy about Kate's past??

It was almost as if Locke and Jack changed personas last night-what's up wth that??

I just thought it was really odd that Locke got all judgmental about Kate being a criminal... why get all preachy about Kate's past?

I'm pretty sure Locke was aware she was the one with the Federal marshall, so he had to know she had a past.

My bet--he knows the whole place is under surveillance. The whole thing was a well-staged kiss off to make the Others think he's on the same judgmental page.

I'm pretty sure Locke was aware she was the one with the Federal marshall, so he had to know she had a past.

But he didn't know what she did. Killing your father is much worse than working at a pot farm.


2: Blowing up a house that did not belong to him.

Did I miss this?

IF something happens to Ben and if the others are 'out there' they might have no choice but to make Locke their leader. He would be able to find water, kill boar, face off with Smokey and just keep them alive.


Locke does not want to be a leader. He's a hunter, a scout, more of a Jeremiah Johnson than a Jim Jones.. which also means he does not want to be "lead".
And BTW, that's fine with me: why should we all be obsessed with leaders? Make your own luck...

I think Ben will use John as example of "Getting" the Island..because as Ben said..."I am in a wheelchair and you aren't."

Ben wants people to see what total faith in the Island will do for them. So, in a sense, he is going to use Locke to do that...and again Locke gets used.

I think Ben will use John as example of "Getting" the Island..because as Ben said..."I am in a wheelchair and you aren't."

Ben wants people to see what total faith in the Island will do for them. So, in a sense, he is going to use Locke to do that...and again Locke gets used.

You could say that Ben is making John think he's part of the family...

careful with this topic. it can quickly spiral out of control as it brings into play two topics (religion and politics) onto the board, that really should not be here.

please do not make blanket statements about either and dont send this subject into lockdown. thank you.