No other woman has given birth on the island and lived? Does Juliette not know about Alex and Danielle?

The losties know. Why didn't they speak up?

Good point elf. I didn't think of that, I guess the Losties didn't either since they only know that based on Danielle's word. They are assuming Alex is her daughter because she says so, but she's a little crazy.

It's also possible that since Juliet is lying, that her story doesn't add up for that reason. She may not know that Alex isn't Ben's but Ben knows where Alex came from and that her mother lived. (I assume anyway). Therefore, it must be untrue that women who conceive off island are in just as much danger. That was part of Juliet's lie when the truth was they put an implant in Claire.

THe truth then is there's only danger to women who conceive on the island so that's why Danielle was fine.

This is a very good question that my family and I were wondering as well. I have no reasonable explanation, but I'd sure like to see one, as it seems like a very obvious mistake.

I think Juliet does know about Danielle and Alex. She knows that Danielle got pregnant off-island, which supports her "it happens at conception" theory.

And as for why they didn't speak up? Do you have to ask? :biggrin:

I'll bet they'll get Juliet and Sun talking ASAP though, because the Claire caper will make them sure Sun is in danger. Which of course, she could be, depending on who the father is.

I wonder if Danielle was the original researcher for the Others and they banished her (or she went crazy). I think Julliette may have replaced Danielle.

What about Ben. He has spent his entire life on the island. Does that mean his mother conceived him off the island and birthed him on the island?

I'm not convinced that Claire was showing "symptoms" either (as Juliet claimed)...they may have only taken her to put the implant in her in case they needed to put Jules in the beach camp. ;)

I could be wrong about this, but I thought Alex was already born before Rousseau and her team arrived on the island. Not sure though, someone would have to check...

I don't trust anything Juliet said. She told lies to gain the trust of the Losties. Claire was probably in no danger to die as was Danielle. She also said that Ethan improvised Claire's abduction and she implied that he was acting alone. I don't believe that one second. How could have Ethan acted alone? Who was guarding Charlie and Claire while he was beating up Jack? How could he have hung Charlie? How could he have drag two people in the jungle, one pregnant?

Juliet was lying to gain the Losties trust. I think woman conceiving off the island are in no danger. I hope the Losties will remember Danielle and put 1 and 2 together.

There is also the possibility that the others are unaware of the fact that Danielle and the losties have made contact. They almost always met her deep in the jungle and I remember Ben referring to her as 'that woman'. Do they think she died after they took Alex?

She knows about Danielle. She just lies to continue her con and continue to infiltrate the Losties.

But thanks for bringing it up, elf, because I totally didn't even think of Danielle during this eppy, which is a mistake. One must never forget Danielle. ;)

I didn't think about Danielle either! Glad you pointed it out. Maybe Danielle's talk about the "sickness" really was true, and whatever it was spread throughout the island after she gave birth, causing men to go crazy and women to becom incapable of giving birth.

Hey what about Karl He seems pretty young where did he come from??? He said he didnt know who the Brady Bunch was

...i agree with those who say that the others know about danielle...they know she lived and they led her believe she was sick and would die, and probably told her the same story they were making ethan tell claire, we only have enough room and meds for the baby...there were a few times she mentioned only going to certain areas...
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I totally forgot about Danielle too.

I do not think Juliettes whole story is a lie, because Clairs was having those horrible nightmares while Ethan was supposely giving her those treatments. So he was doing something to her on more then just one night it would take to put an inplant in.

Maybe they took Danielles baby to find out WHY she didn't die. What is different about Alex that both her and her mother surived.

yeah i had been thinking about the episode all day today at work when i thought about dannielle. heres my theory, the others knew all about the mothers dying and when danielle came to the island pregnant and actually gave birth, they took the baby for research. since that was something like 16 years ago and juliet has only been on the island for 3, she may not know about alex's being born on the island. now its been 16 years since the last successful birth and they have another in claire/aaron, of course they are going to want to research it. i really believe that is why juliet is at the beach, to take aaron and do the same thing with him that they did with alex, raise him as one of their own and study him. of course its going to be hearder since there are 40 something suvivors this time so they cant just walk up and take him like they apperantly did with alex, so juliet has a week to figure out how they can get him away without 40 pissed off losties kicking the crap out of her. i also thought about ben, he says hes been on the island his whole life, so what happened there? im not sure how sun is going to work into this but its going to get very interesting.

If thats right then Danielle couldnt have given birth on the island. I dont think that the others alex is hers and I think she might jsut be completely insane.

Or she is just lying and is with the others or is trying to protect some secret. But either way she is really creepy

Plus Ben said he had lived there all his life, implying that he was born there too.

But did Danielle give birth there or did she have her child with her when she went to the island?

I immediately thought of Danielle too. I think we can be pretty sure that she has been lying (she kept talking of the sickness that forced her to kill her friends. But the sickness only touches pregnant women, not French scientists...)

I bet she had given birth out of the island and then immediately as she set foot on the island the others kidnapped Alex (who does look like her mother, so I think that it's really her daughter) in order to increase their population.

Danielle was pregnant when her and her team crashed on the island. She gave birth on the island. I think Juliet was just trying to scare the losties so that they would let her save Claire, and by doing so she would also make herself look better.

If thats right then Danielle couldnt have given birth on the island. I dont think that the others alex is hers and I think she might jsut be completely insane.

Or she is just lying and is with the others or is trying to protect some secret. But either way she is really creepy


Or Juliet wasn't told about Dannielle.
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I think Juliet does know about Danielle and Alex.

Danielle was pregnant when her and her team crashed on the island. She gave birth on the island. I think Juliet was just trying to scare the losties so that they would let her save Claire, and by doing so she would also make herself look better.

I don't think Juliet knows about Alex and Danielle... considering her situation with her sister, I think she'd help Danielle if she knew. The Danielle situation occured 13 years before she ever came to the island, it's very possible no one told her.

Or Juliet wasn't told about Dannielle.
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I don't think Juliet knows about Alex and Danielle... considering her situation with her sister, I think she'd help Danielle if she knew. The Danielle situation occured 13 years before she ever came to the island, it's very possible no one told her.That wa s my thought too. They didn't tell newcomer Juliet about Alex - Ben is so set on making Alex believe she is his daughter he was willing to withold her story from the fertility specialist he had brought in.

Juliet is running a con here but she also may not have the full facts about the past.

i found this on wikipedia that says she was pregnant when she came to the island.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danielle_Rousseau
so if we can believe this then maybe we can stop debating whether she was pregnant on the island or not. i believe her when she says she gave birth on the island. and its been my experience that the writers are normally pretty straight forward and dont really lie to mislead us. but then again there was about 4 episodes where we only knew ben as henry gale, so she could be lying. but i stick by my theory i posted a few post up.

There is also the possibility that the others are unaware of the fact that Danielle and the losties have made contact. They almost always met her deep in the jungle and I remember Ben referring to her as 'that woman'. Do they think she died after they took Alex?

the others must be aware of danielle and the losties making contact, after all danielle was the one who captured ben and turned him over to sayid

There is also the possibility that the others are unaware of the fact that Danielle and the losties have made contact. They almost always met her deep in the jungle and I remember Ben referring to her as 'that woman'. Do they think she died after they took Alex?

what if Senario 1) danielle made some kind of deal, because she knew something was up but wasnt sure if they would kill alex or her so she just 'gave' alex to the others. OR maybe she faked her own death to save Alex. Which makes u think, what is Claire gonna do? b/c u know they're gonna go after aaron. That goes along with the bible story when the king threatens to cut a baby in half, give one to the real mother (thats what they were trying to figure out) and one to the fake, and the real mother said no, let the fake one have her child, and the fake mother said go ahead and cut the baby. Maybe She'll be the mother who decides whats best for her child but will hurt in the process...it goes with the whole Bible theme we seem to be following alot...Just thinkin' here so don't jump all over me if i sound way off here....plzz!!!:hide:
Senario 2) I'm not sure yet, I'm still workin' on it...lol