In tonight episodes we found out that Juliet is playing both sides.We now know that Juliet can't be trusted. Everything she has done to gain Jack and Kate trust has all been planned from the beginning. But what about Jack? Would people be willing to trust Juliet without Jack's confirmation? I think not. So the question is why is Jack so willing to trust Julia? why do he need the others to trust her? We know that Juliet probably cut another deal with Ben...but what about Jack? Is Jack that naive that he will trust Juliet blindly, after all that he been through? , and failed to listen to advice from his friends, or could Jack be working with the others? In "Left behind" Jack was the only one still knock out, after everyone had awoken...or did he? Jack, like Juliet might have made another deal with Ben, or it's possible that he might have been taken to room 23, and brain wash ( Note: I notice that room 23 is on another island, but they might have taken him that considering the time frame)

So do you think the survivors should trust Jack, or do you believe Jack might have change/made a deal?.

Nah... I'd chalk it up to Jack having found common ground with an Other.

Both doctors.
Both just want to leave the island.
That tape gave him the impression she wasn't "completely" on the Others' side (we now know she IS, he doesn't)
She DID help Kate & Sawyer escape (regardless of her current intentions)

Jack has no reason to NOT trust her, put yourself in his place.

Plus, she's clearly attracted to him.. even Jack can pick up on THAT. We all know how attraction affects a person's judgement...

Jack - still good in my book, just misled.

Jack - still good in my book, just misled.

Exactly. :biggrin: Jack I'm sure will continue to do what's in his heart and do what is best for the survivors, even if he makes a few mistakes in the process and the decisions that he makes turned out to be the wrong decisions. He will always have his heart in the right place. :)

I trust Jack. He's just extremely gullible. Unfortunately... after all is said and done and Juliet betrays the Losties (again) Jake is going to lose the trust factor among his own. That will be when Sayid tries to take over.

I dont trust Jack not because hes with the others but because hes too easily led and too gullible,

That will come back to haunt the Losties.

I trust Jack! When he says he's only trying to help out the other Losties, he is most definitely sincere. I definitely think he's been misled by Juliet and that's not going to end well necessarily, but I do think he genuinely has his heart in the right place and just wants to help everyone survive and get off the island.

I really don't like Jack and his high and mighty attitude, but dispite my annoyance with him, for some reason I feel he can be trusted.

I trust that Jack will do the right thing when he finds out the truth (whatever the truth may be) about Juliet. He may even pull the trigger on her himself. At this point in time she has done nothing but help him, so he gives her the benefit of the doubt. When Claire got sick, Jack wasn't all the nicey nice to Juliet when she was telling the story about the vaccine, and Ethan. Jack hasn't let his guard down completely.

No, I don't trust Jack. I don't trust any of them. Well, except for one. I'll let Charlie say it for me.

"No offense, mate, but if there was one person I would put my absolute faith in to save us all, it would be John Locke."

Although I suppose he'd have something different to say now, wouldn't he? ;)

No, I don't trust Jack. I don't trust any of them. Well, except for one. I'll let Charlie say it for me.

"No offense, mate, but if there was one person I would put my absolute faith in to save us all, it would be John Locke."

Although I suppose he'd have something different to say now, wouldn't he? ;)

So you decide to trust the one man who has done nothing but try to fulfill his own needs and will betray anyone at the drop of a hat?

cheers

Jack made the right decision to let Juliet help Claire, because Claire really would have died if Juliet didn't help her (even though it is the Others who made her sick in the first place). I think they key line was when Jack noticed how much she wanted to get off the island. Jack believes that the Others do not want to leave the island, which is mostly true (with the exception of Juliet). However, he underestimates what Juliet is willing to do to get off the island. Jack can be trusted, he is misled (like someone already mentioned).

I think that Juliet's feelings for Jack will interfere with her deal w/ Ben at some point though...

jack's intnetions are right, but he's being an idiot, and he's being arrogant, thinking that his word should be good enough for everyone to take.

I think more happened with Jack while he was in captivity than he's let on. He doesn't seem to be using his head in dealing with these Others. That will have dangerous consequences as we already know.

I trust Jack, but I think the trust factor is Jack's biggest fault. He trusts too easily. At the same time, I believe he was right when he said that he could see that Juliette just wanted to get off of the island, just like him. I believe from her flashbacks that that is the case. The only other scenario that I could see is that perhaps Juliette knew that the submarine was just a ruse, but played along in the deception b/c Ben may have promised her that he'd be able to get her home some other way if she did. I think Juliet is like the Losties in that she just wants to go home and is being manipulated by Ben. Like Michael who was willing to do anything to get Walt. Like everyone else on the island she can be motivated by her own selfish needs and put others at risk as a result.
Let's see,
we have Locke who keeps running after his own destiny
Jack needs to fix people, but often for his own ego
Kate who also tries to save people, even if they don't want to be saved
Sawyer... well it'd take a whole post for him
Jin seems pretty good so far, except for working in the Korean mafia in order to win the favor of his father in law.
and the list goes on....
So, it seems to me that she actually fits in really well with our Lost friends.

The one who seems the most selfless to me is Desmond. Willing to kill himself to turn the fail safe key... But then, even he ended up on the island as a result of trying to prove himself to Penelope's father.

I don't trust him anymore. On the way back to the beach Juliet outright told Jack that she dragged Kate into the jungle and handcuffed herself to her. He just laughed. :confused:

His judgement is WAY clouded right now. No, he should not be trusted. Now that Juliet's pulled her "miracle" with Claire, he will be trusted. But he shouldn't be.

ASKING Charlie if he trusted him was a dead giveaway. Jack's put his whole reputation on the line, believing he's right about Juliet. When he's proved wrong, he'll lose his authority over the losties, and their respect. Probably when he needs to have both most.

Ah, well. Good luck, Sayid & James!

His judgement is WAY clouded right now. No, he should not be trusted. Now that Juliet's pulled her "miracle" with Claire, he will be trusted. But he shouldn't be.

ASKING Charlie if he trusted him was a dead giveaway. Jack's put his whole reputation on the line, believing he's right about Juliet. When he's proved wrong, he'll lose his authority over the losties, and their respect. Probably when he needs to have both most.

Ah, well. Good luck, Sayid & James!

Sayid and Sawyer are the only two I trust.

I don't think we know enough yet to say if Juliet, much less Jack has gone "rogue." One thing I noticed is Jack was dead on with his evaluation of Juliet: She does desperately want to get off the Island (to return to her sister and nephew). To me, that implies he's a better judge of character than he lets on.

this thread is pointless. Ben told her at the end of the ep. that "Jack trusts you now." ...they are using Jack. unfortunate for him. he isn't in cahoots.

I don't trust him anymore. On the way back to the beach Juliet outright told Jack that she dragged Kate into the jungle and handcuffed herself to her. He just laughed. :confused:

I thought that was odd. I was trying to reconcile that conversation with the one Juliet had with Ben at the end of the episode (but that took place before the gassing of Otherville). I suppose Jack felt that Juliet awoke before anyone else did and dragged Kate out into the jungle as a way to find some sort of common ground? Strange.

I don't know.

However, I did see parallels between Jack and Juliet's scene on the beach and Jack and Kate's scene on the beach in Tabula Rasa. Was the music the same too? The point is, Jack probably is far too trusting in people. He put his trust in Kate even when he knew she was a criminal. Should people have been pissed at him for that? The Marshall told him not to trust her no matter what and he did anyway. He gave her he benefit of the doubt. And he is doing the same for Juliet, but this time his judgement may bite him in the ***.

I don't trust Jack simply because he is rather gullible and stupid. Sure, he is book-smart, but compared to Sayid, Sawyer or even Locke, the guys instincts are in the crapper.

She DID help Kate & Sawyer escape (regardless of her current intentions)

..True...but let's not forget that was "after" she gave the orders to kill them.:eek2:

No, I don't trust Jack. I don't trust any of them. Well, except for one. I'll let Charlie say it for me.

"No offense, mate, but if there was one person I would put my absolute faith in to save us all, it would be John Locke."

I trust Locke because at least Locke is consistent. Locke been out for number one since he landed on the island. ..that haven't change. I do not think the Ben, or the others will be able to control Locke. Plus, Locke do not seem to be emotionally attach to anyone at this point.

I think more happened with Jack while he was in captivity than he's let on. He doesn't seem to be using his head in dealing with these Others. That will have dangerous consequences as we already know.

..that the reason why I do not believe that we can totally trust Jack. I would like to know why Jack was still pass out from the gas, long after everyone else was awake? ..maybe Jack was never gassed at all.


I trusted Jack fully. Up until "Left behind", and "One of us". Now I find myself bring up old question that we never receive answers to. Like:

..In the pilot why was Jack the only one who landed in the jungle, although he was seated next to Rose.

..where was Jack when the Jack, Kate and Charlie was being chase by the monster? and why was he so calm?

I don't trust him anymore. On the way back to the beach Juliet outright told Jack that she dragged Kate into the jungle and handcuffed herself to her. He just laughed

I found Jack reaction a little odd, but than again he didn't do, nor say anything when Kate was first capture, and they rough her up a little bit. :confused:

I trust Jack, I don't think he knows that Juliet is planning something and lying to all of them. If we find out that Jack has been compromised in any way, it'll blow my socks off!!! I'd be shocked.

I don't believe he is in it with Juliet. He's just naive. Though the fact that he'd been unconscious for so long still bugs me.

I trust Hugo

In season 2 episode 14, entitle "One of Them", we found out that Ben was an other. He was one of them. This season. season 3, episode 16 is called "One of Us", which I think might be a hint that "one of us", (..meaning one of the "fuselage survivors") might be working for Ben.

I trust Jack. He's just extremely gullible. Unfortunately... after all is said and done and Juliet betrays the Losties (again) Jake is going to lose the trust factor among his own. That will be when Sayid tries to take over.

I agree with this opinion. I also think that Jack is very gullible in regards to Juliet because he's got a crush on her now. Would he completely trust Ben? Or Tom?

You know Juliet is bad news when it gets Sayid and Sawyer to agree and work together.;)

Jack hasn't done anything, as yet, to make me not trust him. I am keeping an eye on him, but I think that he was set up as the protagonist for a reason, and knocking him down, will jsut alienate a lot of viewers. That is not to say that I agree with everything that he has done, but he has done nothing against any of our Losties...yet