http://gallery.lost-media.com/displayimage-1272-958.html

Was Juliet the one who hung Charlie? This shot means something.

SamG, I was thinking the exact same thing when they zoomed in on her tying that knot.... can't remember what type of rope was used to hang charlie. Not that it really matters, cause it was certainly more symbolic.

ETA: or did the way they specifically showed her tighten the knot after her eyes met jack's, did it symbolize how she is tightening her grip on Jack?

I think poor Charlie was hung with vines but that's what my mind jumped right to.

http://gallery.lost-media.com/displayimage-115-798.html

Rope Loop (http://gallery.lost-media.com/displayimage-1272-958.html)
reminds me of
Jack's necklace SiaSL (http://gallery.lost-media.com/displayimage-1256-86.html)

I think it has to do more with symbolism.

It looks like an 8!

He was hung by a clump of hanging vines.

Maybe I'm too innocent (and I'm surely getting manipulated by Dr. Juliet) but I just thought it symbolized her moving into their group. That is certainly not the kind of knot you hang a person with (it's just a square knot).

It looks we're not the only ones Johnny

http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showpost.php?p=1485504&postcount=4

I didn't mean to imply that the rope / vine needed to be the same to symbolize that she hung him.....i was just curious and thought it would be coincidental if it was the same. But thanks for putting that idea to rest :)

Sam....what about it symbolizing her tightening her grip on Jack?
I may actually like this idea a little more :laughing:
cause she does have him wrapped around her little finger.....
come to think of it, much like the string was as she was tying the knot :34853_huh:

I still think the shot has something to do with Charlie hanging. That was my first impression.

Was it just me or did the rope she was using look like hair?

ummm... i thought the point of that scene was to show her smiling at losties, setting up camp, starting to fit in a little bit, but then she turns and faces the camera and her smile immediately drops off showing her fakeness

Take the time to build a shot like that, CU of the hand tying the rope, means than coming to camp and trying to fit in.

Did you guys see (http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/8752/eight2vo5.jpg) that (http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/6155/eightcf2.jpg) (2shots)??? And all this time i was wondering why the camera had to focus on Jules' rope tying that long!!!!Its an 8!

Yep. . .it's definitely an 8. What is the significance of that?

Yep. . .it's definitely an 8. What is the significance of that?
Considering that 4 8 15 16 23 42 are THE NUMBERS,id say its just an Easter Egg,more or less:cool:For what its worth!!!And for some of us,these babies worth a lot!!!!

Eight is the number of inifinity.

If you look at this season as a whole Juliette and the losties have been going around in circles.Everytime they have an opportunity to "leave the island" something happens and the whole shebang resets to zero. Then another event occurs giving Juliet an opportunity to leave the island. Something will happen and the scheme will reset to zero. Sort of like the Rusiian nesting dolls. You open one to find another and so on and so forth into infinity.

Eight is the number of inifinity.

If you look at this season as a whole Juliette and the losties have been going around in circles.Everytime they have an opportunity to "leave the island" something happens and the whole shebang resets to zero. Then another event occurs giving Juliet an opportunity to leave the island. Something will happen and the scheme will reset to zero. Sort of like the Rusiian nesting dolls. You open one to find another and so on and so forth into infinity.

cool post brotha!could be,could be!

dude, you guys are good...and all i saw was a cute chick with sexxy blue eyes tying rope.

dude, you guys are good...and all i saw was a cute chick with sexxy blue eyes tying rope.
hahaha!!she was so creepy in that epi!so very creepy i had to reach for my snuggle blankeT!And i dont even have one!:drowsy:

I took this scene as this..........they are showing Juliette knowing full well how to tie a very well done knot. Maybe she tied the knot in the rope that Charlie was hanging from. I did not believe her when she said Ethan kidnapped Claire on his own. I think she may have been part of it.

creepy or no, i love those eyes. and they distract me from whats happening. I guess, in a way, Im a bit like Jack in that regard.

talking about easter eggs ,what do you guys make of this? (http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/9020/clockgv9.jpg)12+4=16 maybe?
And look at this link from lost easter eggs blogspot. :http://losteastereggs.blogspot.com/2007/04/bens-books.html Interesting huh?
The most shocking of all was the connection of the scarlett letter with Bolivia (http://losteastereggs.blogspot.com/2007/04/ummo-mystery.html)
these two were both taken from losteastereggs.blogspot.com

the rope tying was definitely symbolic of something. i like johnnywishbone's comments in the Parting Shot thread (http://thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=75858) from last night.

I took this scene as this..........they are showing Juliette knowing full well how to tie a very well done knot. Maybe she tied the knot in the rope that Charlie was hanging from. I did not believe her when she said Ethan kidnapped Claire on his own. I think she may have been part of it.

That's what I tought too. Didnt one of them make a comment about the quality of the knot when Charlie was rescued?

Not every time we see a number is there relevance....or some other thing going on in the background. Perhaps it means something, but what? We were slapped with the white rabbit that had the 8 on it? Perhaps the numbers alone stand for something and when you see them they signify something. Maybe 8 stands for Con? I'm trying to think of any other single number that has stood out so strongly. Then after you have the numbers, you can combine them to mean something else. Like say 4=love, then if you saw 4+8, it could mean conning someone into loving someone/something?

It's a good scene. Her expressions are the key. She is lying and knows she now has them right where she wants them. The knot was just there. She was building her camp.

Of course I could go off and say it's not a number 8 but the infinity symbol standing up and it means that they will all be on the island forever and ever but that would simply be ridiculous.

It's a good scene. Her expressions are the key. She is lying and knows she now has them right where she wants them. The knot was just there. She was building her camp.

Of course I could go off and say it's not a number 8 but the infinity symbol standing up and it means that they will all be on the island forever and ever but that would simply be ridiculous.

Dude, check my post on page 2 . . .

Regarding Juliett. She's so sexy. Even though she's working against the Losties I'm totally pulling for her.

As for the rope symbolism -- analyze everything Juliet said. She speaks in tongues so to speak. That is everything she says has a dual meaning. The best example I can think of is this:

Jack ". . . After that you're on your own."

Juliet "I'm already on my own."

Juliet meant that she was already working for her own self interest despite what Jack thinks. She also meant that she's an other in Lost camp. "She who walks amongst them but isn't one of them."

Dude, check my post on page 2 . . .
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Oh man I didn't even see that. Meant no disrespect. I truly thought I was being ridiculous maybe there is something to the infinity thing after all.:redface:

Oh man I didn't even see that. Meant no disrespect. I truly thought I was being ridiculous maybe there is something to the infinity thing after all.:redface:

I don't necessarily believe that this will go on forever. However look at how the season has unfolded.

Ben develops a tumor. Manipulates Jack into operating for a "prize" etc... It goes to Hell. Then Jack has to make another deal and so on. The same for Juliet. She has to continually make deals to get something. Meanhwile neither Jack nor Juliet have gotten what they were promised. It's a repeating loop.

4815162342 EXECUTE

Wow i never thought of that ! I knew there was a reason why they focused on tht shot !

The isolation on Juliet was intentional, although I'm not sure anything more than her duplicity was in focus. Her carefully well-executed knot could have alluded to an involvement in Charlie's hanging.

To me, the loop looks like an infinity symbol - an infinite loop, or mobius. If you are a Star Trek: TNG fan then you'll get this quote about the mobius being:

"a rip in the fabric of space where time becomes a loop"

a wise man once said....

"Loop Dude, Loop"

:biggrin:

I've never been one to self-promote my own posts in other threads, but I made this post before reading this thread and I think it expands on the infinity idea you guys already started. Have a look I think I make an alright argument: http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showpost.php?p=1491971&postcount=27

I think that the infinity symbol represents Desmond and Juliette is there because of him!

Modkittn I can still hear Worf saying that line!

I found it to be more of a "stringing them along" kind of thing (or is it "stringing them up"?)

I still think it's the symbol for infinity, cause otherwise it was not a very natural way to tie a simple reef knot. It's referring Juliette's intentions for Desmond brutha's! Well at least I believe so :)

it was definitely a deliberate shot of the rope, some great ideas to what it might mean here.

i remember charlie said - 'they' when he spoke about his ordeal
"All they wanted was Claire."

I think it has to do more with symbolism.

"Tying up loose ends" ?