Don't worry, I'm not going to start "The Others are Good Guys" crap. Instead, I'm going to ask what people think of Juliet's intentions and future intentions. Obviously she is a plant - that is, she is doing everything Ben wants her to, that is, up to this point.

But then again, she has that grin on her face when Ben is giving her the plans :eek2:. Ben asks, "Juliet, are you all right?" - and she still has that creepy look. And then she says, "I'm fine."

But here is the big question, "Who in the end is she double-crossing, her people or the Lostaways?"
- On the one hand, she is doing everything according to plan (up until now) under Ben's plan.
- But then again, she seems to really want to get off the Island, and after Ben helped Locke to stop her (and Jack) from leaving - can she really trust Ben to get off the Island just because she helped Claire?

Personally, I think she is on her own side

Personally, I think she is on her own side
I think that's plain to see. Her ends are her own but in attaining them, she sticks with what she knows (Ben and the Others.)

agreed. juliet is on her own side, period. she seems to care less about anyone else on the island.
PS: anyone notice hurley completely checking her out?! she does look a little like libby.

As much as Locke wants to stay on the Island and doesn't care who gets in his way, Juliet wants to get off the Island and will defy Ben and any Lostie who gets in her way. Do you really think Ben showed her the truth about her sister? He's got to know that after seeing her nephew and sister, she will do anything to get home.

I think she will ultimately turn on the others. When she was about to inject Claire and Jack stopped her and said that if it didn't work, she was on her own, her reply was "I'm already on my own" I think this meant that since Ben had already activated whatever made Claire sick, Juliette followed through on it to just plain save her life. Yes, to gain the trust of the Lostees, but not to follow along with a plan of Ben's.

i'm having another thought about juliet too. when ben is telling her what to do after the gassing, this is at night, just after the sub was blown up. she didn't look very upset. did she know this was happening already? was the plan with jack always about getting him to take her back to the camp. and what is she supposed to accomplish in one week?

was the plan with jack always about getting him to take her back to the camp. and what is she supposed to accomplish in one week?

Although I probably would have come up with part of this on my own without spoilers, but since it has been confirmed, I'll do the right thing.

Who else is pregnant? Sun. And the big question is what she will do to Sun even though she isn't big yet.
But next week in "D.O.C.", Juliet will find out who's the father.

But again, even though Juliet is ultimately on her side, which side will that take form on? The Lostaways or the Others? I know Ben's plan has been followed up to this point, but what if there's another twist where she is double-crossing him?

I appreciate your feedback, guys. The one that sticks in my mind is when someone pointed out, she said she's already on her own.

I think she's "good". If she was really there as a plant I don't think they would have shown her meeting with Ben at the end. We would have had to wait at least 4 or 5 more episodes to see that she was "bad". I just think that we got an answer too soon for it to be what it appeared to be. I think she is turning the tables on Ben somehow, seeing as she thinks he can't help her get off now.

IMO Juliet is out for herself. Then again... I'm sure she's fed up with unfullfilled promises from Ben. :undecide:

Well, it's entirely possible that Juliet and every other Other has an implant just like Claire in order to keep them in line and on the island forever. The threat of an implant blowing at any time would probably be a good way to keep them shepherded into nothing more than a flock of sheep for Jacob to command by proxy of Ben. If Juliet really wanted to leave badly enough, she could technically take the sailboat and head along the course that Michael and Walt did. However, it's possible that if she was implanted or the way out is closely guarded, she has to obey Ben. From her flashbacks, I conclude that she is a selfish person, but has good intentions in most things she does. Experimenting on her sister? That's borderline. Stealing company drugs? Borderline. However, we know she put them to a positive use. Until we get a flashback showing her as the Mistress of Evil, we can only assume that she's doing these things because she has to do them. Does she want to leave the island? Absolutely! Does she stand a chance without Ben's (or Jacob's) approval? No.

As someone who watched her husband mowed down by a bus, Juliet must realize that she will never be free of the organization whether she's on the island or not. If she is ever to leave the island and live freely in society, it either has to be with Ben's approval or by discrediting him entirely. Having heard Ben tell lie after lie, I suspect she's shooting for the latter. To this end, she has found some common ground with Jack. Now that doesn't mean she has thrown in with the Losties. She may know all about them but doesn't know them and nothing that she's read gives her any reason to trust them - quite the opposite, in fact. So, she's on her own. She will not hesitate to throw anyone who gets in her way under the bus. Everything comes full circle.

Shes not sure yet, playing Ben to get off the Island, playing Jack for backup incase that goes wrong. They need to explain how in 3 years she has become this very cold and highly martial arts trained women compared to the unsure, unconfident, scared women they interviewed!!

The soft-spoken unsure-of-herself Jules that left Miami is gone forever.

She has changed into something she always wanted to be but couldn't (strong, confident, self-assurred, etc.). Kinda like the change Cassidy underwent as a result of her encounter with Sawyer.

Juliet is on her own side. I think she is going along with Ben's game plan until she has an opening to accomplish her own goal. I do think that she has some genuine feelings for Jack, but not like Kate and Sawyer are starting to develop (sorry Jaters :frown: )

I think she's "good". If she was really there as a plant I don't think they would have shown her meeting with Ben at the end. We would have had to wait at least 4 or 5 more episodes to see that she was "bad". I just think that we got an answer too soon for it to be what it appeared to be. I think she is turning the tables on Ben somehow, seeing as she thinks he can't help her get off now.
It was really odd that Lost revealed that plotting conversation with Ben and Juliet at the end. Lost never does that. Which as you pointed out, makes me think it's a misdirection and Juliet may not end up adhering strictly to Ben's plan.
More and more I'm convinced she's definitely out for herself -- not totally loyal to Ben and the Others, and certainly not loyal to Jack or wanting to join the Losties community because they have rockin boar parties.
Yes, her driving desire is to get off the island but that doesn't mean she is trustworthy. Quite the opposite -- she'll make her deal with the "devil" -- in this case Ben -- to get what she wants. Think of Michael, who like Juliet, was a "good" person before they came to the island, who became obsessed with reuniting with his family, and "made a deal with the devil" to get off the island. I think Juliet's going to end up killing someone else in her quest.

Well, it's entirely possible that Juliet and every other Other has an implant just like Claire in order to keep them in line and on the island forever. The threat of an implant blowing at any time would probably be a good way to keep them shepherded into nothing more than a flock of sheep for Jacob to command by proxy of Ben. If Juliet really wanted to leave badly enough, she could technically take the sailboat and head along the course that Michael and Walt did. However, it's possible that if she was implanted or the way out is closely guarded, she has to obey Ben. From her flashbacks, I conclude that she is a selfish person, but has good intentions in most things she does. Experimenting on her sister? That's borderline. Stealing company drugs? Borderline. However, we know she put them to a positive use. Until we get a flashback showing her as the Mistress of Evil, we can only assume that she's doing these things because she has to do them. Does she want to leave the island? Absolutely! Does she stand a chance without Ben's (or Jacob's) approval? No.
Yikes. I never thought of that -- all the Others might have an implant. Very X-Files. That could keep them in line for sure.
Juliet seemed like a basically good person before she came to the island. Like you pointed out, using borderline medical ethics, but it was for what she believed was the greater good and personal good. As of present day on the island, she is a dangerous, fighter-trained, double-crosser. She has definitely lost a lot of her personal integrity by having to survive on the island.

Know what you mean about why doesn't she just get on the boat and take the coordinates michael and walt took - but I think I'm right in saying the Others only have one boat (possibly two) and they'd probably kill her if she tried?

I think that Juliet is sometimes on Jacks side.But on the other hand I think she's on Ben's side. I think that maybe just maybe Juliet will totally forget about the plan and take Jacks side. But she won't let Jack be in charge. She'll be living with the losties but really be doing what she wants.So she's really on her own side.