ortiz34
04-18-2007, 10:39 PM
whats the over under?
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View Full Version : kate preggers? ortiz34 04-18-2007, 10:39 PM whats the over under? The Shapeshifter 04-18-2007, 10:53 PM Not sure... but if she were to have conceived after the first encounter with Sawyer, that's still only a week ago at most, right (in island time, that is)? Even with a really sensitive pregnancy test, she wouldn't know till about two weeks after conception, and she wouldn't start to notice obvious pregnancy symptoms till at least then. And of course, all that is assuming that she happened to ovulate at the right time (although the Others could well have given her meds to help promote that). dm 04-18-2007, 10:57 PM you would think that after hearing juliet say all the women who get pregnant on the island die, kate might be a bit more careful :rolleyes: ireneadler 04-18-2007, 11:03 PM I don't know if a blood test could detect the small changes in hormone levels one week after conception, but I know that a pregnancy kit is able to detect it two weeks after conception. The Shapeshifter 04-18-2007, 11:04 PM And we know Kate's had a false alarm re pregnancy in her past, at least once. It's possible that she's on some kind of longer-term birth control (implants, IUD, that sort of thing), but of course there's always the possibility that the Others may have tampered with that at some point if she was unconscious. If they have detailed enough files to know that Sawyer killed the guy in Australia (which I'm guessing isn't known to anyone else, except Sawyer), it's not too far a stretch to assume they might have the women's medical records, and know what their history is as far as any birth control, past pregnancies, or fertility treatments. Kate731 04-18-2007, 11:04 PM I really hope she's not, I think that would be overkill with Sun pregnant. You really would think she'd be more careful though! The Shapeshifter 04-18-2007, 11:07 PM I don't know if a blood test could detect the small changes in hormone levels one week after conception, but I know that a pregnancy kit is able to detect it two weeks after conception. Even a blood test would be unlikely to detect HCG (the pregnancy hormone) in as little as a week - it would work in some people, and still be too early to tell in others, since the body doesn't start producing HCG in response to conception, it starts in response to implantation, which typically occurs 6-10 days post-conception. (Hence why, in some people if they implant late, a typical 'pee on a stick' pregnancy test may take longer than two weeks after conception to show a positive result) Don't mind me, I just know more than I should about these things, since I'm currently pregnant after a long time of trying, including a less-than-pleasant stint of infertility testing. dm 04-18-2007, 11:10 PM Even a blood test would be unlikely to detect HCG (the pregnancy hormone) in as little as a week - it would work in some people, and still be too early to tell in others, since the body doesn't start producing HCG in response to conception, it starts in response to implantation, which typically occurs 6-10 days post-conception. (Hence why, in some people if they implant late, a typical 'pee on a stick' pregnancy test may take longer than two weeks after conception to show a positive result) Don't mind me, I just know more than I should about these things, since I'm currently pregnant after a long time of trying, including a less-than-pleasant stint of infertility testing. and in some people, the hormone could be really strong and show up strongly right away. in others..you might barely get a line until a few weeks in. it all depends on the person. and i somehow doubt that sawyer has an unlimited supply of home pregnancy tests :rolleyes: i mean..how many does the average woman carry around in her purse? ortiz34 04-19-2007, 12:06 AM maybe sawyer is impotent... Sawyers Mojito 04-19-2007, 12:12 AM maybe sawyer is impotent... uhh doubt it.. remember clementine? LostGroupie 04-19-2007, 12:13 AM maybe sawyer is impotent... He's definitely not impotent... and he has a daughter... Clementine. :rolleyes: Selene1212 04-19-2007, 12:26 AM She's definately being careless... shyguy 04-19-2007, 12:30 AM It would take another 3 or four seasons for her to have a baby. She also would be able to do much which would limit her role in the show. I doubt she is. Admiral Erik Pressman 04-19-2007, 12:34 AM Talk about self destructive behavior. Kate is one messed up person. lost_horizon 04-19-2007, 12:34 AM Kate pregnant? It's possible since she's been "exposed" twice. In the heat of the passion I guess she didn't think that was a possibility. It's not like she is some teenage girl who doesn't know any better. abbybaby 04-19-2007, 12:40 AM Well, Now Kate has had sex on BOTH islands. If this "thing" with pregnant women happens at conception it's gonna be hard to know if Kate will live or die, since the timming of the 2 sexcapades is so close. If she is preggers, If she concived the first time on Alcatraz she's safe, but if she concieved on the losties island shes in trouble! If we can believe anything Juliet says. ortiz34 04-19-2007, 12:43 AM He's definitely not impotent... and he has a daughter... Clementine. :rolleyes: no real proof the baby was is...and kate almost looks like she is trying to get one at this point, what a great way to get back at jack... ozieozwall 04-19-2007, 12:56 AM Sawyer got Clementine pregnate so unless Kate is using something she's Next... Bummer would be if Kate is pregnate she could be the next to die??? lostnthesoutheast 04-19-2007, 12:57 AM Talk about self destructive behavior. Kate is one messed up person. You can say that again!!! At least Sawyer seems to be on to her motives. However, I doubt that however tempted me might be, that he would ever put her in danger if he were privy to the prenancy=death info. Sawyers Mojito 04-19-2007, 01:00 AM Sawyer got Clementine pregnate so unless Kate is using something she's Next... uhhh he got Cassidy pregnant.. and cassidy HAD clementine... lol Amber 04-19-2007, 01:03 AM Maybe/hopefully they used condoms. But if there are no more Dharma supply drops, those condoms are going to expire sometime. If they didn't use protection, lets hope Sawyer didn't give her crabs. :p lostgurl 04-19-2007, 01:08 AM Do we really need so many pregnant females on the show? I really hope they don't do this. They'll have to change the name to Morning Sickness. mysweetone22 04-19-2007, 01:49 AM Well, Now Kate has had sex on BOTH islands. If this "thing" with pregnant women happens at conception it's gonna be hard to know if Kate will live or die, since the timming of the 2 sexcapades is so close. If she is preggers, If she concived the first time on Alcatraz she's safe, but if she concieved on the losties island shes in trouble! If we can believe anything Juliet says. I don't think that it would be as easy as going to Alcatraz and have it considered to be safe....or the others would have some love shacks set up over there. :kiss: abbybaby 04-19-2007, 02:04 AM I don't think that it would be as easy as going to Alcatraz and have it considered to be safe....or the others would have some love shacks set up over there. :kiss: It just a theory continuing from the last episode, If Claire is the only one to survive pregnancy on the island she would have been the only one also to concive to Off the island. So the Others or Juliet may not have made the "off island" conection yet. This is also if you believe that Claire was never injected with any life saving drugs Juliet made just the thing that made her sick. Like I said just a theory, if it's true Kate is trouble in more ways than one. Lost_in_DeLandFla 04-19-2007, 02:05 AM I have to say it...sorry...infertile not impotent. Kate would not visit him in his tent if he was impotent the first time. :rotflmao2: Guinevere 04-19-2007, 02:12 AM As others have said in this thread, it's too soon to tell. As far as her not being careful, Kate (and Sawyer for that matter) may figure "What the hell! Live while we have the chance!" Safe behavior? Not particularly. Human behavior? Most definitely. Maybe Kate's unable to have children for some reason and she's just not worried about it. I don't think a lot of thinking has entered into her trysts with Sawyer. 1dimpleonly 04-19-2007, 02:22 AM I don't think she is yet,...but she will be. I think the whole quadrangle between Kate/Sawyer/Jack/Juliet was arranged by Ben. He wants the Losties to procreate, so he can steal children and/or experiment on them. Maybe Ben put something in Kate's water, and she can't help herself. I don't remember Kate chasing Jack or Sawyer around the island before she was kidnapped... And, Jack,...well Ben's 'saving' his DNA. He doesn't want to risk a pregnancy for Juliet, and I don't think Juliet likes Jack anyway,...but that's another theory. LostGroupie 04-19-2007, 04:26 AM no real proof the baby was is...and kate almost looks like she is trying to get one at this point, what a great way to get back at jack... Haha... maybe we'll end up with another... who is the father? situation :p HisSassafrass 04-19-2007, 05:03 AM Since the fertility problem is what was being studied and why Juliet was brought to the island, it wouldn't seem too far out there if more women end up pregnant. Mojave 04-19-2007, 05:14 AM Haha... maybe we'll end up with another... who is the father? situation :p Yeah, we've had a repeat of the triangle (or at least TPTB said there would be a triangle between Charlie, Claire and Desmond), now we can have a repeat of the pregnancy story, then a repeat of the who's the father story, followed by two repeats of the giving birth story. What other stories can we repeat? Hmm island hottie 04-19-2007, 05:46 AM Has anyone considered the possibility that they might have used the 'pull-out' method? Trying not to get too graphic here. abbybaby 04-19-2007, 09:05 AM Has anyone considered the possibility that they might have used the 'pull-out' method? Trying not to get too graphic here. You should meet my beautiful 9 year old! Guinevere 04-19-2007, 12:44 PM Has anyone considered the possibility that they might have used the 'pull-out' method? Trying not to get too graphic here. You should meet my beautiful 9 year old! :rotflmao: As to that, island hottie, we don't know if they did or didn't use that particular method. :biggrin: Fintrainer 04-19-2007, 12:52 PM "Withdrawal", while not 100% effective has a lot less risk than not ;) Also consider the use of IUD's, Norplant, or even condoms. I'm sure someone on the plane had a stash. At three months on the island she may just be due for Depo. As for in the tent - we don't know that the encounter was full intercourse either. From her hand moving down, she may have been in a "giving" mood. Too graphic? :p quizzical 04-19-2007, 12:59 PM I don't want her to be pregnant, but I have sneaking suspicion it will be one of the season finale revelations. It fits too well with the overall fertility theme. eko42 04-19-2007, 01:06 PM After the episodes showing how both Kate and Sawyer couldn't cope with the idea of having a child and then having them... well *ahem* you know... (TWICE!), well, I think it's pretty obvious that she is pregnant... I don't really like the idea as far as the plot goes, but it just seems to me like it's going to happen. Selene1212 04-19-2007, 01:55 PM Also consider the use of IUD's, Norplant, or even condoms. I'm sure someone on the plane had a stash. At three months on the island she may just be due for Depo.I'm kind of doubting those options are readily available to a woman on the run... :shrug: HoardingHurley81 04-19-2007, 01:59 PM I dont know if she is preggers....but I know she was wearing a thong last night....booyah! runemuse 04-19-2007, 02:08 PM kate might be a bit more careful How do we know she doesn't have an IUD? How do we know they weren't using condoms? How do we know if Sawyer hasn't had a vasectomy--because he doesn't want to beget another child he'll never know? Isn't this like in the movie Sixteen Candles..."doing it on a pink cloud without getting herpes or pregnant?" Admiral Erik Pressman 04-19-2007, 03:03 PM We have to remember that we're talking about dying here, not just getting pregnant. If I were in that situation I would only trust some kind of estrogen-based birth control, not condoms, and definitely not the pull-out "method". While getting pregnant if you don't want to be must suck, I think dying is probably a little more serious;) Fintrainer 04-19-2007, 07:00 PM I'm kind of doubting those options are readily available to a woman on the run... :shrug: Norplant is five years, IUD is forever... She hasn't been on the run her whole life. And FYI - many medical services are available to people who would like to remain anonymous. And once serviced - doctor/patient confidentiality. My vote is condoms or they didn't go for full intercourse ;) Admiral Erik Pressman 04-19-2007, 07:09 PM Norplant is five years, IUD is forever... She hasn't been on the run her whole life. Whoa, really? Forever? I didn't know that. Maybe Kate did something like that after she took the pregnancy test and realized how badly she wanted not to get pregnant. Fintrainer 04-19-2007, 07:18 PM Whoa, really? Forever? I didn't know that. Maybe Kate did something like that after she took the pregnancy test and realized how badly she wanted not to get pregnant. Lasts as long as its in. Some low incidence of pregancy with it (like any birth control) but very poor results. Not often used as the birth control of choice because it is a larger procedure to insert (and remove). Also has the highest incidence of resulting in fertility problems. Over time can be cheaper though!! redmaria 05-16-2007, 06:53 AM please,a Kate pregger ship quickly!id join at once:cool: |