So now we know where Desmundo got the expression "brotha," like we saw where Locke got "Don't tell me what I can't do."

i actually really like how explanations are being given to little things like this!!

things like why desmond says brutha.... why eko felt he had to build a church on the island... it really gives you hope that every little detail is planned out well in advance by the writers, and care is given to everyone's actions.

whenever i get into debates with people from non-US countries, i've often heard that American movies and shows always need to spell out answers to everything, moreso than other cultures. a random example i recall: the American version of the movie "the ring" gave explanations to every detail of what happens to everyone (for example, why you are killed after seven days), whereas the original Japanese version didn't feel the need to have to explain everything. through message boards, I read a lot of criticism of the American version by Japanese viewers, saying it was cheesy how every little plot point had an explanation spelled out.

but i guess i subscribe to the culture of loving to hear explanations and rationale to things. explain more things to us, writers! like..what is the smoke monster!!

do you agree? or were any of you annoyed at this, thinking maybe it wasn't something that really needed to be explained? like my mom, haha... she said "oh how cheesy, now we know why he says his damn 'brutha' all the time"

Lost is an interactive television show. JJ Abrams opened this forum form several reasons. IMO without this forum we would miss many of the easter eggs and the very essence of this tv series. This is a complex tv series, so complex that even the writers use it to advance the actions in the series.

Public forums on the internet are beginning to change the culture. Example the huge public uproar over the Imus gaff that eventually lead to his show being cancelled.

In Lost explainations don't always appear in the first viewing. If it where not for sites like this and others, I would not enjoy the Lost series as much as I do.

I don't need it explained. I just dig it, Brotha.

Never thought this was why he called people brothah!! Just goes to show you that the characters on Lost are so much more interesting and mysterious than real people!!
Isn't it funny how nearly every character on the show is SO interesting and has had such a crazy life with all sorts of things going on in it. How many people in real life can say that they were fired from being a monk?!!

Meh, did nothing for me. I don't think I even caught that there was a reason given for why Echo wanted to build a church, and honestly I could care less. I am more interested in the bigger questions in the story that are not getting answers and if they take a whole episode to answer why he says brother???? Huh, this show will be on the air for 10 years before I find out how Desmond actually got on the island (put there on purpose??) Or why he was in jail?

It just seems that they have SO many easter eggs, so many little details, so many connections going on, that it ups the ante for me on what the end of the story will reveal, and then they have episodes to explain why Jack has tattoos and why Desmond says brotha, which TPTB seem to think are answers everyone is waiting for and I get really depressed that the end will not live up to the hype.

Meh, did nothing for me. I don't think I even caught that there was a reason given for why Echo wanted to build a church, and honestly I could care less. I am more interested in the bigger questions in the story that are not getting answers and if they take a whole episode to answer why he says brother???? Huh, this show will be on the air for 10 years before I find out how Desmond actually got on the island (put there on purpose??) Or why he was in jail?

It just seems that they have SO many easter eggs, so many little details, so many connections going on, that it ups the ante for me on what the end of the story will reveal, and then they have episodes to explain why Jack has tattoos and why Desmond says brotha, which TPTB seem to think are answers everyone is waiting for and I get really depressed that the end will not live up to the hype.

I don't think the whole episode was to reveal why Desmond says brothah. I think they have to keep the show interesting until the last season when hopefully all the big questions will be answered. It's a slow process, but it's fun waiting and thinking about the storylines.
The show definitely won't run 10 years, so you won't have to wait that long to find out why Desmond was in jail, that I promise you! Just have more patience.
Some episodes are more plot driven and some we learn alot in flashbacks. It's a give and take. Catch-22 was definitely plot driven. think about all of the cool stuff that happened on the island and focus less on the flashbacks if they bother you.

Part of the fun is the little details... I wouldn't have guessed Des was a monk, even for a short time. But this ep shows his continued history of running away or screwing up - it also showed how he met Penny. She was the beginning of the change in his life.

Part of the fun is the little details... I wouldn't have guessed Des was a monk, even for a short time. But this ep shows his continued history of running away or screwing up - it also showed how he met Penny. She was the beginning of the change in his life.

I was really hoping that they showed how Desmond met Penny.So I was happy about that. I don't like the fact that Desmond is always running away from things. Although if things hadn't happened in exactly the way they did Des wouldn't be on the island, and we wouldn't know him, so on the flip side it kind of worked out good!!

and the "see ya in another life" charlie's had what 4 or 5 of them now? LOL

So now we know where Desmundo got the expression "brotha," like we saw where Locke got "Don't tell me what I can't do."

Actually, you're dead wrong.

This has been discussed and explained in great detail before here in other episode threads, but here goes:

The term "Brother" is a colloquial expression that is commonly used in Scotland and in parts of England where many Scots live. It is a fairly recent expression that was picked up and put into general parlance during the 1970s, probably taken from the African American males use of "Brother" to refer to one another. Since there is a general sentiment among Scots that they are downtrodden by the English (just as the African Americans are by White Americans in the US), the usage of "Brother" among Scots was more or less similar to how it is used among African Americans, too.

It just happens by pure coincidence that the term for a monk is also "Brother". This has nothing to do with why both Desmond and Charlie use this term frequently - for them it has to do with general British sub-cultural slang.

I for one really liked how they tied that up, it brought a smile to my face that there really was a reason.

Actually, you're dead wrong.

This has been discussed and explained in great detail before here in other episode threads, but here goes:

The term "Brother" is a colloquial expression that is commonly used in Scotland and in parts of England where many Scots live. It is a fairly recent expression that was picked up and put into general parlance during the 1970s, probably taken from the African American males use of "Brother" to refer to one another. Since there is a general sentiment among Scots that they are downtrodden by the English (just as the African Americans are by White Americans in the US), the usage of "Brother" among Scots was more or less similar to how it is used among African Americans, too.

It just happens by pure coincidence that the term for a monk is also "Brother". This has nothing to do with why both Desmond and Charlie use this term frequently - for them it has to do with general British sub-cultural slang.

Interesting, I didn't know that. I had just assumed it was one of Desmond's expressions, and when I heard Charlie say it (i only recall it once or twice) I thought he was referencing Desmond's frequent use of it.

Interesting, I didn't know that. I had just assumed it was one of Desmond's expressions, and when I heard Charlie say it (i only recall it once or twice) I thought he was referencing Desmond's frequent use of it.

Maybe someone from the UK can back me up on this, but if you've go to London or even Sydney for that matter, you'll hear people use the word "Brutha" a lot... It's pretty common parlance.