Anyone know what the scary story Jinn was telling?

No, but I thought it was hilarious since no one can understand him! :biggrin:

The voice he did for the first few seconds along with charlies "evil/scary" guitar was probably one of the best things in lost yet.

The voice he did for the first few seconds along with charlies "evil/scary" guitar was probably one of the best things in lost yet.


I agree. It reminded me of The Grudge.

It seemed he was telling some sort of handless man campfire story. For me, it was a great example of how some stories transcend cultural and linguistic boundaries. They might not have understood exactly what he was saying, but they knew when to be scared.

That was HILARIOUS. I know we have some Korean speakers on the board. Can't wait to hear a translation!

My guess is the hook story, the one where the girl and guy drive away just in time and then find the hooked hand of the killer on the handle of their car door.

Hands down the best part of the episode for me. Jin has quickly become my favorite character...

My guess is the hook story, the one where the girl and guy drive away just in time and then find the hooked hand of the killer on the handle of their car door.Thats what I was thinking. :lol2:

Yes! The bloody hook story . . . it's universal! LOVE IT!

Anyone hear Hurley start telling Jin about the Chupacabra (Google it if you don't know) when Charlie started walking away towards Desmond?

I think it might have been "Give me Back my Golden Arm..."

Looking for link now..


ETA : "The Golden Arm (http://www.folktale.net/golden_arm.html)" by Mark Twain..

I think Hurley said something about a bird...

Anyway, I got the distinct impression Hurley understands Korean - more than Jin or the others know.

I loved the Jin scary story. It was funny seeing them all sitting there listening like they understood a word he was saying.

Hehe Jin's so adorable. I really liked this playful scene between the 'dudes'. :)

Anyone hear Hurley start telling Jin about the Chupacabra (Google it if you don't know) when Charlie started walking away towards Desmond?

I heard it because me and my mom started laughing at that!

and jin with the flashlight...GENIUS! lol

I think Hurley said something about a bird...

Anyway, I got the distinct impression Hurley understands Korean - more than Jin or the others know.

Hurley was definitely mesmerized by what Jin was saying and he DID mention at the end that he liked the part about the bird, so he probably does understand a smattering of Korean by now.

Which is funny considering that Hurley dreamed he could speak & understand Korean.

Back to the bird though, remember how Hurley was a little freaked out by the bird that seemed to scream, "Hurley" at the end of Season 2? He even asked Sawyer if that bird said his name. The "Hurley bird" appears real sporadically throughout LOST and I think this is one instance that we are supposed to notice a bird in connection with Hurley - like it is some sort of turning point in the LOST mystery.

Oh my lord, that was the funniest scene yet. I loved how they watched him so closely, and how Jin held the flashlight under his chin. The universiality of ghost stories! And then Hurley jumps at the end...too funny.

I think Hurley said something about a bird...
Anyway, I got the distinct impression Hurley understands Korean -
I heard him say something about a bird, too.

I think what he understands is Jin's inflections, as well as learning some Korean, and just knowing Jin from hanging out with him.

I loved the Jin scary story. It was funny seeing them all sitting there listening like they understood a word he was saying.
exactly! It was great.


"The Golden Arm" by Mark Twain..
So THAT"S who wrote that story! Leave it to Pen to find out. thanks.

I heard him say something about a bird, too.

I think what he understands is Jin's inflections, as well as learning some Korean, and just knowing Jin from hanging out with him.

How would Hurley know the Korean word for "bird" simply by hanging around Jin? Wouldn't he be more likely to pick up words like "hello" "goodbye" "fish" "rain" "like" "don't like" ??? I mean, after all they are not exactly spending scads of time bird watching.

I think there is something weird and clue-like to this Hurley bird connection. :cool:

How would Hurley know the Korean word for "bird" simply by hanging around Jin? Wouldn't he be more likely to pick up words like "hello" "goodbye" "fish" "rain" "like" "don't like" ??? I mean, after all they are not exactly spending scads of time bird watching.

I think there is something weird and clue-like to this Hurley bird connection. :cool:


As I remember it Hurley said something along the lines of "i loved the part about the bird...you said bird...right?"

I totally just took it as a Hurley joke, not that he knew exactly what Jin was saying. I could be wrong but I wouldn't be surprised if the korean translation proves to not even use the word bird in it.

I don't even care what the story was. The idea of a campfire with scary stories on the Island - especially with tough guy Jin telling the story - is awesome.

This was such a cute scene! It had me laughing quite a lot. I especially loved the added touch of the flashlight. I remember doing that at "Slumber Parties" when I was a teenager. I'm really curious as to what story he was telling too, although its not crucial to the spirit of the scene. Jin has certainly become a lovable character.

I think it was "Who's Got My Golden Arm?". My mom used to tell this story when we were sitting around the campfire...I always thought she made it up but its a legit ghost story thats been around for decades. I believe what Jin said at the end of the story was "YOU GOT IT!"

anyhow whatever he was saying was hilarious.

( I heart Jin even more now! )

Definitely something to do with an arm!!! I loved this scene, it was very refreshing. Just goes to show you that there are no language barriers when it comes to some things!! I'm really happy that Jin feels much more included now than he used to. He used to brood and sulk and he is SO much different now. I don't know if the stress of working for Sun's father is gone or he just feels happy on the island, or because of the baby. A mixture of everything probably, but it's good to see him smile!

Maybe Dr. Candle liked that story too? Maybe he has a hook on the end of that dead arm of his!

...and here I was thinking it was a riff on the low-budget scary movie that was out about 5 years or so ago, the Blair Witch Project (??). You know, use of the flashlight on the face...

This scene had me rolling. Jin with the flashlight to his face was priceless. And the mention of the chupacabra! hahaha, great scene.

How would Hurley know the Korean word for "bird" simply by hanging around Jin? Wouldn't he be more likely to pick up words like "hello" "goodbye" "fish" "rain" "like" "don't like" ??? I mean, after all they are not exactly spending scads of time bird watching.
Not sure if he said bird or not, but birds certainly were a hot topic for Jin in Par Avion. Hey, it's possible! :cool:

I think Hurley said something about a bird...

Anyway, I got the distinct impression Hurley understands Korean - more than Jin or the others know.
That's an interesting point, because the more Micheal hung out with Jin, the more he seemed to understand him without Sun translating. Hurly seemed to have a good communication vibe going with Jin in the van episode as well.

David Eddings wrote a series of books (The Malloreon) in which one character was mute and communicated with other people through a vauge series of hand gestures (not detailed enough to be sign language by any means). At the end of the book, we learn the character was actually a telepath. He was projecting subtly to others so that they THOUGHT they were reading the hand gestures but were really just picking up the thoughts he sent out.

The point: Does the island act like a uniersal translator, where exposure allows you to understand others, no matter what language they are speaking? Could it be a power that Jin has, like Locke's communication with the island, or Desmond's flashes? Does Hurley speak Korean? Or is it not really a mystery at all.

Maybe Dr. Candle liked that story too? Maybe he has a hook on the end of that dead arm of his!

You just made me spit my coffee on the monitor!!!!

I was laughing so hard during that scene haha

Jin + Hurley = comedy gold

Im glad I had something to remind me that life was worth living after Sanjaya got booted from American Idol.

I'm surprised we haven't heard what the story was

Hi, I'm new here, and I'm Korean. I translated Jin's story as best I could. Here it is:

(little girl's voice) “Thank God. I was frightened you’d left because I double-crossed you.”
(narrator) After hearing this, the man smiled and said,
(man's voice) “Don’t worry, dear girl. You should know that I have… A HOOK FOR A HAND!!!”

http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Talk:Catch-22#Korean

Thanks davek68! :) I assume the hook for a hand part was when Hurley screamed. The little girl also makes sense, as Jin was talking in a funny, high-pitched voice.

Thanks Davek! And welcome! I know someone would give us a hook er, hand!

I spent 2 weeks in China a couple of years ago, and I learned just enough Mandarin to (barely) get by. After a few days there I noticed that even though I couldn't always understand what people there were saying, I could understand what they were talking about, if that makes any sense.

You can communicate a lot with inflection, expressions and body language.

Maybe Dr. Candle liked that story too? Maybe he has a hook on the end of that dead arm of his!
Ahhh, nice connection to the missing parts of the island inhabitants! Dr. Candle (arm), Montand (arm), Patchy (eye), possibly Ben/Locke (since they could not use their lower limbs) .....

Not sure if he said bird or not, but birds certainly were a hot topic for Jin in Par Avion. Hey, it's possible! :cool:
I thought Claire, Charlie & Desmond were involved in the bird snatching. I forgot that Jin helped Claire snare a bird! Thanks! :smile:

Hi, I'm new here, and I'm Korean. I translated Jin's story as best I could.
You are AWESOME!!! Thank you SOOO much!!! :Jumpy:

I spent 2 weeks in China a couple of years ago, and I learned just enough Mandarin to (barely) get by. After a few days there I noticed that even though I couldn't always understand what people there were saying, I could understand what they were talking about, if that makes any sense.

You can communicate a lot with inflection, expressions and body language.
This is true. Several years ago I was in Switzerland and didn't know one word of German, yet eventually I was able to understand the general idea of what people were trying to get across. I was able to do the same thing in Italy and actually found it easier to understand conversation in Italian --- perhaps it is because Italians are more dramatic and use their hands a lot to talk! ;) :biggrin:

Sort of random connection, I seem to remember this story or somthing similar to it being told in the Bill Murry Movie "Meatballs." I know that the whistling that they were doing is from "The Bridge on the River Kwai" but I think they did that in "Meatballs" too. Can anyone confirm?

Ahhh, nice connection to the missing parts of the island inhabitants! Dr. Candle (arm), Montand (arm), Patchy (eye), possibly Ben/Locke (since they could not use their lower limbs) .....

Oo Oo! Maybe Jacob is a zombie and he need some body parts and harvested them from people on the island. Now that's SCARY!

Interesting that it's a story that mentions someone being double crossed - another foreshadowing moment? ;)

Oo Oo! Maybe Jacob is a zombie and he need some body parts and harvested them from people on the island. Now that's SCARY!


LOL, we'll see in season 7 hopefully :biggrin:

Ahhh, nice connection to the missing parts of the island inhabitants! Dr. Candle (arm), Montand (arm), Patchy (eye), possibly Ben/Locke (since they could not use their lower limbs) .....


I thought Claire, Charlie & Desmond were involved in the bird snatching. I forgot that Jin helped Claire snare a bird! Thanks! :smile:


You are AWESOME!!! Thank you SOOO much!!! :Jumpy:


This is true. Several years ago I was in Switzerland and didn't know one word of German, yet eventually I was able to understand the general idea of what people were trying to get across. I was able to do the same thing in Italy and actually found it easier to understand conversation in Italian --- perhaps it is because Italians are more dramatic and use their hands a lot to talk! ;) :biggrin:

Something like that happened to me in Germany. I walked into a store and asked the lady behind the counter very carefully, "Bitte, sprechen sie Englisch?" And she answered "Why? You're speaking perfectly good German." And then I realized she'd said it in German! And I did somehow manage to stumble through the rest of the conversation. God bless her for giving me a learning experience.

This isn't the first time that Jin has said something that Hurley understood. Hurley may just be one of those people that is good at picking up on a language without having to study it. My brother is like that, he speaks English, Spanish, French, and German. He was a Spanish major, but he picked up German while living in Europe just from hearing it around. Jin understands and bit of English, Hurley knows a few words of Korean, and they somehow they understand each other.

Just as an aside, Jin's "camping" cracked me up. He looks at Hurley "camping?" and Hurley start going on about marshmallows and such. Jin doesn't know what a marshmallow is, but he knows that Hurley is happy about it, so Jin gets excited about "camping".

The campfire story scene is definite one of my top five favorite scenes and just reinforces that idea that this show is at it's best when it is an ensemble show.

I like the idea someone posted earlier about Hurley and maybe the island acts as a universal translator.

I think, though, it's more individual than that.

We've seen several characters develop supernatural, or at least preternatural, abilities while on the island. Locke walks again and Rose's cancer goes away. Walt definitely has something spooky going on with his sefl-projection thing. Jin seems to be able to communicate with Hurley and Michael while speaking in Korean. Hurley can hear the bird calling his name. Desmond is seeing the future.

I think that everyone on this island is being "enhanced" in some way. I think the island is not unique because it can heal, because we see it doesn't heal in every case. Ben still gets cancer. But what we do see is people doing what they shouldn't be able to do in any normal context.

So maybe it's a superpower thing? No idea. I mean, that's a juvenile way to put it, but what if the island's effect on an individual is that it enhances something they could already do to some degree, maybe not even noticeable - something like regeneration, telepathy, telekinesis, astral projection, etc.

Interesting, to say the least.

This isn't the first time that Jin has said something that Hurley understood. Hurley may just be one of those people that is good at picking up on a language without having to study it. My brother is like that, he speaks English, Spanish, French, and German. He was a Spanish major, but he picked up German while living in Europe just from hearing it around. Jin understands and bit of English, Hurley knows a few words of Korean, and they somehow they understand each other.



I believe Hurley is bilingual, though I don't know if that's actually been confirmed on the show. (Answering to "mijo" doesn't really count.) People who are bilingual or trilingual as children are just wired differently and find it easier to pick up languages later in life. (We sent our kids to a Spanish/English dual language school, something I'd recommend highly. It's ridiculous that most American schools don't start a second language until high school, just when the brain's ability to absorb the new language is shutting down.)

Learning to communicate across language lines is one of the interesting little ongoing side plots in LOST. I wonder whether if the Lostaways were never rescued--yet solved the babymaking problem--the subsequent generations would speak an evolved form of Craphole Island English with various Korean, Spanish and Arabic words (and Scottish dialect) sprinkled in.

Learning to communicate across language lines is one of the interesting little ongoing side plots in LOST. I wonder whether if the Lostaways were never rescued--yet solved the babymaking problem--the subsequent generations would speak an evolved form of Craphole Island English with various Korean, Spanish and Arabic words (and Scottish dialect) sprinkled in.

Cool idea. It would be like the creole English that some people from Louisiana speak. What is interesting, is that Creole is a mix of English, French, and the native language of the region (don't shoot me if I am wrong anyone out there from Louisiana). One of my gfs grew up down there and she said that she can't really undestand Creole and she speaks English and French. It is like it became it's own distinct language. That would be so weird if an new language was created out of English, Spanish, Korean, Urdu, and inflected with Australian, Scottish, and British accents.

I believe Hurley is bilingual, though I don't know if that's actually been confirmed on the show.
He reads Spanish-language comic books (Season 1), so I'd say you are correct.

Personally, I laughed when they were asking if Jin wanted to go "camping." Sleeping outside under the stars, on the beach, eating around a campfire, telling tales of scary things... ... isn't this what they do every night?

Sort of random connection, I seem to remember this story or somthing similar to it being told in the Bill Murry Movie "Meatballs." I know that the whistling that they were doing is from "The Bridge on the River Kwai" but I think they did that in "Meatballs" too. Can anyone confirm?

It's "Colonel Bogey's March" and was in "The Bridge On the River Kwai". It's been in countless movies since then including (I am pretty sure) Meatballs.

Personally, I laughed when they were asking if Jin wanted to go "camping." Sleeping outside under the stars, on the beach, eating around a campfire, telling tales of scary things... ... isn't this what they do every night?
Lol, totally. I thought of that too.
It's "Colonel Bogey's March" and was in "The Bridge On the River Kwai". It's been in countless movies since then including (I am pretty sure) Meatballs.
Remember when they whistled it in "The Breakfast Club"? I totally expected Hurley to break out into Beethoven's 5th (right?), like Bender does next in the movie. :)

Hi, I'm new here, and I'm Korean. I translated Jin's story as best I could. Here it is:

(little girl's voice) “Thank God. I was frightened you’d left because I double-crossed you.”
(narrator) After hearing this, the man smiled and said,
(man's voice) “Don’t worry, dear girl. You should know that I have… A HOOK FOR A HAND!!!”

http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Talk:Catch-22#Korean

Cool, thanks so much for that! No mention of a bird, though. I guess Hurley was just being Hurley, lol.

This scene was awesome. Loved it!

Cool, thanks so much for that! No mention of a bird, though. I guess Hurley was just being Hurley, lol.
The Korean word for bird is seh. Pronuncian is a little tricky, you start with an "s" sound and switch to "heh". "s-heh". To say it properly there shouldn't be a pause between the "s" and "heh", just say it all together like one word.

We heard Jin finishing up the story but I heard no mention of a bird. Perhaps the bird was mentioned earlier on and they just didn't show that part. Hurley could still be right about a bird being part of the story.

I like the idea someone posted earlier about Hurley and maybe the island acts as a universal translator.

I think, though, it's more individual than that. ... I think that everyone on this island is being "enhanced" in some way.

That's a very interesting point. Whatever you were "in the real world" is becoming intensified. True characters are being revealed. It does make sense that Hurley would become good at languages - because he's being used as the messenger, the herald, the foreshadower (playing John the Baptist in Charlie's religious dream/vision) - IOW the "communicator." And I do like the points made earlier that not only is he becoming attenuated to verbal language, but all the nonverbal inflections and body cues as well - that's how he's been able to get Sawyer to do what he needs him to do.

I just finished watching "The Stand" miniseries (which the LOST developers have acknowledged as a major influence), and you really notice this *sharpening* of people the longer they remain under conditions of extremity.

Some of it, though, in this scene is IMO just good old fashioned character development. Contrast it with the scene in season One where Hurley steps on the sea urchin, and wants Jin to urinate on his foot (to ease the poison.) The two really don't communicate at all.

There's also Jin's "rehabilitation" - his inclusion into the group; his turning away from suspiciousness towards "outsiders;" his reconciliation with his wife (which also includes allowing her to be part of the whole beach camp group, not just stuck with him.)

Both Jin and Hurley have developed phenomenally as characters since then.

...and here I was thinking it was a riff on the low-budget scary movie that was out about 5 years or so ago, the Blair Witch Project (??). You know, use of the flashlight on the face...


The flashlight under/on the face is MUCH older than that movie for sure. I think, it didn't matter what Jin was saying. He used the inflections of his voice, and the listeners were hanging on his words (like I was) trying to infer what he was trying to convey, then BANG the startle effect (used in modern day "scary" movies) to illicit a fear response.

The missing hand part was awesome, and Jin is a great character.

Sort of random connection, I seem to remember this story or somthing similar to it being told in the Bill Murry Movie "Meatballs." I know that the whistling that they were doing is from "The Bridge on the River Kwai" but I think they did that in "Meatballs" too. Can anyone confirm?

I thought it was the music from The Great Escape, apt as they were travveling to enact their little escape plan.

I thought it was the music from The Great Escape, apt as they were travveling to enact their little escape plan.

Somewhere from my deep dark past, I have resurrected some lyrics to that tune. There are probably many versions and these most likely originate from WWII. They are somewhat crude and call into question the physique of top-ranking members of the Reich;

"Hitler, has only one big ball,
Goering has two but they are small,
Himmler, has something similar
But poor old Goebals has no balls at all"

Might fit with the theory of missing body parts????? !!!!

Peter

any time i see jin/hurley, i immediately think of the scene from season 1, i think, when hurley is trying to catch the fish w/ jin and he steps on a sea urchin and asks jin to pee on his foot!

:)

Im not sure but as soon as I saw what he was doing I have just about never laughed so hard !!!!!!!!!