You trying to kill me too writers??? :confused:

OMG that opening scene! :eek2: I had to endure the most gruesome death scene for Charlie only to breathe again when it was a dream, then to watch an entire hour of Desmond leading Charlie to it. When that scene started happening again and he was about to trip that wire I starting screaming at my TV, "STOP! STOP! STOP! CHARLIE!! STOP!!!!!!!!" I mean, I was pretty sure he wasn't dying but they sure cut that close. Scared the bejeebers out of me. :frown:

This was the most difficult Lost ep I've ever sat through. Yeah, it was good, but HARD. My heart was pounding for an hour straight.

So what were your visceral emotional reactions to what you were seeing? Anyone else freaked out despite their best sense?

I hope they don't do that to me again. I don't think I'll survive another Charlie death.

I was on edge the entire time and kept hitting my roommate. I was so nervous! I kind of knew Charlie would live but I was so scared! And upset that Des suddenly seemed willing to let Charlie die.

*hands pace a bag to hyperventilate into*

When that happened, I actually gasped and said out loud, "OMG! Pace!". My son was very confused. LOL

I was questioning whether Charlie was going to live or not. Oh yes, this episode DEFINITIVELY gave me a heart attack and I was EXTREMELY nervous watching it.

Yeah remember how we thought it wou;d get mundane and repetitive with Des saving Charlie. This was really a really intriguing twist to the story. Sacrifice Charlie for Penny. I kept thinking the entire episode perhaps that's the only way to get rescued.

It seems like he's starting to grow resentful. Maybe Charlie will tell him not to anymore.

But seeing an actual Charlie death like that? Hit a little too close to home. I'm really going have a problem if he actually dies, I know that now. I'm still shaking.

Thanks for the bag sheba.

Talk about a Catch-22, eh PJ? I too thought of you immediately.

I was seriously freaked out, and not 3 seconds before the show started had I been talking about Charlie having episode 21. So clearly I knew he didn't die today! But damn, it was gross, and I couldn't believe Desmond. I really thought he might let Charlie die, or just leave it to chance that Hurley or Jin would stop him in time.

Freaky freaky

I think Desmond clearly thought that he could have his cake and eat it too - reunite with Penny and save Charlie (via the first aid kit), although that was pretty darn risky. I'm not sure that any amount of bandages would fix a hole in the neck, esp. if it puntcured the carotid or any other major artery. The poor guy has been obsessing about Penny for three years- I think that definitely took a toll on him. Fortunately, Desmond is a very good man whose innate decency won out - he just couldn't let Charlie suffer (even if he survived, Charlie would be in a lot of pain).

Shades of ATBCHDI! I already lived through that once and now they go and put me through it all over again!

Some nice Charlie/Desmond moments though so I guess it was worth the..nail biting and screaming. :D

My heart was pounding the whole time. Desmond sure let him get close enough to death! I was freaking out.

I'm at work when Lost airs and watch it on a portable TV at my desk. I literally gasped out loud. Thankfully my co-workers know to ignore me at 9 p.m. Wednesdays.

Great way to get a rise out of your viewers.

OHHHHHHH MANNNNNNNNN! That first scene was something! My jaw completely dropped! My huspand keep saying it's ok, it's ok , it's gotta be one of Desmonds dreams! But the first part of the vision wasn't in flashes so I thought it was real! Gross but shocking, then edge of your seat the rest of the show! Loved iT!

My heart is still racing - the bad part of the ten pm start time - it takes forever to calm down enough to fall asleep!

That was a seriously scary opening scene!!

Arrow throw the throat?? That was so gruesome and painful to watch... and to live the entire episode just thinking that Desmond would let that happen. :shock: ... I have no words.

No more Charlie deaths please!!!!! I going to have a coronary.

Yes, it was very, very ATBCHDI, especially with the flashes of someone hanging. I kept saying "Oh, Des will stop the arrow somehow but then he'll be hanged!!!" and then it didn't happen that way, but wow..... wow wow.

I actually thought he died at the beginning! I was thinking "Wow, they sure didn't waste any time in killing Charlie this episode." I was in shock. Then I finally realized it was just a vision Desmond had. I knew Desmond wouldn't let Charlie die. Desmond was acting a little selfish, but I knew he would at least save Charlie's life.

But damn, it was gross, and I couldn't believe Desmond. I really thought he might let Charlie die, or just leave it to chance that Hurley or Jin would stop him in time.

It was gross wasn't it? Ew, definitely 10pm material. When it was over I thought to myself how much Dom probably loved getting to do that so that made me feel better, along with the knowledge that Charlie didn't really die. But the arrow, shot right through his neck, and the blood, and the gaggin, EYUCH!! EW, EW, EW!!!!!! My eyes popped out of my skull. How horrible.

And for Desmond to see that, with no apparent way to step in in time and to still take Charlie to it? It freaked me out about Desmond for the first time, particularly since Charlie's not stupid. He was SO suspicious the entire time but Desmond kept insisting it had nothing to do with him. And I'm yelling LIAR!! LIAR!! :mad:

the big characters always die in their own flashback episode...no way was charlie going to die in this one. But when he has his flashback episode....watch out.

Bwahaha, that opening scene certainly was a heartstopper. I kept thinking as I watched it that they couldn't do that in the opening scene. Still, every second that passed before it was revealed as one of Desmond's flashes just heightened the sense that they had!

We were also screaming STOP! STOP! STOP! Loved the "Schroedinger's cat" feel of the trek. It seemed like it was Penny who had landed on the island, and only because Desmond saved Charlie, changing the sequence, it was someone else when Des removed the hood. It was weird, but in a good way.:biggrin:

Let us hope he doesn't have a flash back epi any time soon!

I actually thought he died at the beginning! I was thinking "Wow, they sure didn't waste any time in killing Charlie this episode." I was in shock. Then I finally realized it was just a vision Desmond had. I knew Desmond wouldn't let Charlie die. Desmond was acting a little selfish, but I knew he would at least save Charlie's life.

I actually didn't know. I thought he would lead Charlie right to it and the Jin or Hurley would save him. But even if Desmond intended to save his life, but just didn't tell Charlie because he wanted to make sure he came along, Desmond had no way of knowing he'd succeed. He was just hoping to try. That was why he brought the First Aid kit, in case he was too late. He was taking an awfully big risk with Charlie's life, particularly knowing what a nasty death he was in for.

And let's not forget he was sacrificing Charlie so he could be with Penny, but he was also leaving Claire potentially devastated. So he saves his relationship and destroys another.

I was sure Charlie wouldn't die--and not being a huge Charlie fan I didn't get freaked out by seeing a death I knew wasn't going to happen. I really did think that Desmond was going to let it happen, only to have Charlie saved by some other random element. I think if the show were more willing to take risks it would have played out that way. Des is obsessed with getting Penny back; I could see him doing this even though he hated himself for it. He could even use the Abraham Isaac analogy to rationalize it, as he berated himself for not passing the test by saving Charlie.

But then I'd be pretty sure they were killing Des off. ;)

Cardie

Well, I knew it was a flash the moment the arrow hit, but I can understand your shock at seeing it regardless, Pace. I know if/when they decide to put Locke in danger, I'll be freaking out just as equally. Hopefully they won't be as mean to me as they are to you, what with keeping you in total suspense for nearly an entire season as to whether or not your boy will live. :)

As soon as the arrow hit Charlie I knew it was one of Desmond's visions, and I knew Desmond wouldn't be able to let it happen, but they cut it really close! My heart attack was when Charlie stepped on the wire the second time (or, for real, I guess), and I was going "Come on, Desmond! COME ON!" :sweat:

AGAST!!!! That was well done acting. Not only is the arrow painful it is the chocking to death and Charlie actually knew he was dying. Very effective FX scene. The second time when Desmond saves Charlie from the arrow I noticed an odd feather on the arrows tail looked like metal instead of feathers.

Well Done!

I knew they were going to give us Charlies death. Was anyone honestly expecting Des to allow Charlie to die there?

That was horrible!! Aaaaahhh.. Then to see it over and over, and wonder if the ending will really come true.. A mighty uncomfortable episode to watch..

AGAST!!!! That was well done acting. Not only is the arrow painful it is the chocking to death and Charlie actually knew he was dying.

Well Done!

Wasn't it amazing? Well done, Dom! You rock! A death of Shakespearian proportions. It looked real. It looked horrible. It looked really horrible. :eek2:

I was on edge too the entire hour, but for me mostly the scene at night on the beach when they detect the copter.

As much as I'm NOT much of a Charlie fan, I didn't want him to die that way & I definately didn't want Desmond to take the evil turn. I was extremely relieved when Desmond saved him.

Just a side note, I'm sure that arrow was meant for a tall man, Charlies a little short so he would have got it in the neck instead of the heart were it was intended to go. Well, I would assume Danielle would have set it up to got straight through some ones chest.

I loved the look that Charlie gave Desmond right after he saved him. :cool:

Well I knew from the promo that the arrow probably didn't really hit Charlie, but I sure thought "pace is not liking this scene one bit" in the opening. :hug:
Quite a way to die indeed.

I loved the look that Charlie gave Desmond right after he saved him. :cool:

I thought he looked pissed, like "I KNEW there was something you weren't telling me!" :mad: Charlie was rightly suspicious through the whole thing.

I thought of you Pace, and knew that you'd be going through hell this entire episode. :( I'm so sorry!

I thought of you Pace, and knew that you'd be going through hell this entire episode. :( I'm so sorry!

Thanks Amber. :)

My emotional reaction was complete and utter heart-stoppage. (Believe I may've just coined a new medical term there :rolleyes: ) I may not survive another scene like that opening one, even though my rational mind was telling me it was all in Des's flashes and not real. At moments like that, trying to plead rationality to my brain does no good whatsoever. :biggrin:

And I may have broken some sort of world record for going without breathing for the next 55 mins. of the eppy. At this rate, I quite possibly may not survive the rest of the season. Even during the ping-pong game, when Charlie was nowhere nearby, I kept expecting the Reaper to pop out and get him.

Not good for the old ticker, writers. Tsk, tsk! ;)

My emotional reaction was complete and utter heart-stoppage. (Believe I may've just coined a new medical term there :rolleyes: ) I may not survive another scene like that opening one, even though my rational mind was telling me it was all in Des's flashes and not real. At moments like that, trying to plead rationality to my brain does no good whatsoever. :biggrin:

And I may have broken some sort of world record for going without breathing for the next 55 mins. of the eppy. At this rate, I quite possibly may not survive the rest of the season. Even during the ping-pong game, when Charlie was nowhere nearby, I kept expecting the Reaper to pop out and get him.

Not good for the old ticker, writers. Tsk, tsk! ;)

That's EXACTLY how I felt. I need someone to hold my hand for the next five weeks. :undecide:

That's EXACTLY how I felt. I need someone to hold my hand for the next five weeks. :undecide:

Consider it held, Pace. :)

I know all of this is just t.v., and not truly happening in the real world, but that doesn't make the feelings any less vivid, at least not for me. Saying that makes me sound like I should be back off-island, on the mental ward, playing Connect Four with Lenny, lol, but it's the truth nonetheless. ;)

The problem is there was no doubt that Charlie was NOT dead because of the ABC previews. ABC really blew it on that one.

MamaThor said that was a cheap shot. It didn't look like a forward-flash
or one of Desmond's other "visions". She says that PAW (producers and
writers) should be ashamed to do a shot like that out of context of a
dream or vision.

"And if MamaThor ain't happy, ain't nobody happy."

Gahhhhh when it came to the part where it actually happens, I'm sitting there clutching my sister and she's saying "oh my gosh it's raining now, oh my gosh" and they go a little further and she says "oh my gosh here is where they're gonna talk about the super heroes" and then it happens and Desmond is looking just as freaked as we are and then I keep thinking he's gonna stop him, he won't let him step on the OH MY GOSH HE LET HIM STEP ON IT! Come on do something DO SOMETHING FOR GOSH SAKES! DESMOND! WAKE UP! NO NO NO...YES YES YES You DID IT!!!!!!

The writers enjoy tormenting us a little too much. That Charlie death scene was just too real. I think I need a hug. I don't know if I'll make it to the end of the season.

We should actually have a weekly pep talk for you Pace. After every episode, there will be a place where you can be consoled etc. We can call it 'Pace's Corner'. I'm serious!

The writers enjoy tormenting us a little too much. That Charlie death scene was just too real. I think I need a hug. I don't know if I'll make it to the end of the season.

:hug:

We should actually have a weekly pep talk for you Pace. After every episode, there will be a place where you can be consoled etc. We can call it 'Pace's Corner'. I'm serious!

You're sweet. :hug: We have that. It's the Charlie Life Support Thread (http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?p=1498537#post1498537). Stop in anytime for a pep talk, some fan support and to spread the Charlie love.

i was about to start breathing into a papper bag, but after des....woke up laughed at myself, how could i possibly think he died, pshhhh.

Y
So what were your visceral emotional reactions to what you were seeing? Anyone else freaked out despite their best sense?


Me! Me!
And although I knew I wasn't seeing a *real* event, I still thought it was a great fake out..

I was a little nervous but not too nervous, because the next few episodes will have Charlie as a flashback episode. And if you're reading this Pace, keep in mind that whenever a character dies, it has always been in one of their flashbacks. (e.g.; Boone, Shannon, Ana-Lucia, Mr. Eko, Paul and Nikki) Could Charlie be next? Who knows?

Pace your opening thread cracked me up because it's so obvious you're a Charlie fan, and yet, you talk about having a heart attack over that.

Peace.

I was pissed off at Desmond, cause he was actually going to just let it happen, so he could see penny. Poor Charlie. I'm so glad Desmond decided to do the right thing. What's the point in seeing the future if you cant change it for the better. There's obviously a reason, a specific purpose for Desmond's abilities. I have to say that I wasn't as emotional about this one like I was when Jack and Kate found him hung up by Ethan in season one. I was in tears during that scene, and still to this day when i watch that scene I get teary eyed.

You guys really fell for it? Wow. I guess I trust Des' character and I think they've established how much he's truly a good guy at heart. I know he may be crazy at times and has done some bad things, but I knew he wouldn't let Charlie die. Not like that anyway.
Plus, what a frickin anti-climactic ending it would have been if Charlie died exactly as Des predicted. Nope. I just wasn't scared for Charlie at all actually. Although, visually it was kinda freaky seeing someone stabbed in the neck with a spear! Ewwww.

You guys really fell for it?


Totally. It would have been completely unexpected, especially because the characters do die in their flashback episodes, except for Libby. The writers would have ripped the rug out from under us. Not that it would have been great for Charlie to die, but it would be a great way to break the mold.

I'd immediately figured out that it was a fake-out death because we started out in the middle of what was about to happen in the episode.

Totally. It would have been completely unexpected, especially because the characters do die in their flashback episodes, except for Libby. The writers would have ripped the rug out from under us. Not that it would have been great for Charlie to die, but it would be a great way to break the mold.

Boone was injured in Locke's fb nd died in Jack's.

Cardie

You know, despite finding Pace's antics a bit overblown, she was the first--FIRST person I thought of when I saw Charlie die in the flash-forward, I was absolutely shocked when it happened, and I loved every minute of that episode.

Poor Pace though, really, when Charlie does finally meet his end it's going to be pretty rough. Seeing that reminded me how much I like the character, but it was great -great- writing and acting all around.

Awesome way to kick off the episode. Great tension sustained all the way through. Credit to the writers. I hope we see more Charlie 'deaths' before the curtain finally comes down on him, it was great to see through Desmond's eyes and live his torment with him.

You guys really fell for it? Wow. I guess I trust Des' character and I think they've established how much he's truly a good guy at heart. I know he may be crazy at times and has done some bad things, but I knew he wouldn't let Charlie die. Not like that anyway.
That's how I felt. I didn't doubt him.

He believes in fate and thinks he's weak because he so often fails to do what he's "supposed" to. But his real weakness is that he lets other people (or mysterious beings or the Universe) convince him that he's wrong to follow his own conscience. I knew he'd do the right thing in the end though. :)

Well with the whole Abraham-Isaac story I really thought at the end that Des would allow Charlie to die. It just seems like it's a matter of time.

Yeah as soon as he stepped on that trip wire, I knew he was done for. I just didn't expect it to be so gruesome.

I thought of Pacejunkie when the arrow went in...and how she must be freaking..Then I freaked. I believe my exact words were.."You have got to be S****ING me!"

My husband laughed at me..and then a few moments later I thought that it -had- to be a Desmond flash..I'm glad I was right.

I actually thought of you Charlie fans when seeing this. I was like "I bet they were freaking out". I texted my friend during it when I saw that Charlie was writing a song. I have always told her "Charlie, being the rock n' roller that he is, will not die before he has written his comeback song." At least that's what I think is Charlie's "redemption factor". So I was freaked out when he was sitting on the beach, guitar in hand with a pen and paper.

I yelled at my tv during the opening scene. I thought it was for real. I don't want Charlie to die, but if he has to die, I hope it's not by setting off some booby-trap in the jungle. It needs way more significance than that.

So, big sigh of relief, eh?

not surprised at all to see this thread from you pj!!! as soon as it happened i immediately thought "i bet pj is having heart failure right about now". so funny that so many of us immediately think of you when something happens to charlie. :)

the way they played out charlie's "death" in this episode rocked. it was such a great twist and i also have a new liking for desmond (he hasn't been my favorite). i'm really interested in seeing how this plays out over the next couple of weeks.

When it was over I thought to myself how much Dom probably loved getting to do that so that made me feel better,

:biggrin: I can just imagine Dom walking around set with that huge bloody arrow in his neck and a big grin on his face. I bet there'll be some funny outakes on the DVD.

Honestly TPTB are so cruel to the Charlie fans. Is it not enough that we had to see our boy hung by the neck? We have to watch him get shot through the neck too?!!

Looks like Desmond might have two lives to save. Charlie from being killed by the universe and pacejunkie from having a heartattack watching it.

In this scene, as soon as Charlie got struck with that arrow through the neck, I knew it had to be one of Desmond's flashes. I knew they couldn't kill off our beloved Charlie like that. I am one that doesn't think Charlie is going to die anyhow.

I was a little nervous but not too nervous, because the next few episodes will have Charlie as a flashback episode. And if you're reading this Pace, keep in mind that whenever a character dies, it has always been in one of their flashbacks. (e.g.; Boone, Shannon, Ana-Lucia, Mr. Eko, Paul and Nikki) Could Charlie be next? Who knows?

Boone died in Jack's and Libby in Ana's. TPTB know that the way to really surprise us is to have the next major death take place in someone else's ep. Not that I thought Charlie would die in this one but that's how I think it actually will go down this season, if and when it does.

I have to say that I wasn't as emotional about this one like I was when Jack and Kate found him hung up by Ethan in season one. I was in tears during that scene, and still to this day when i watch that scene I get teary eyed.

I'm obsessed with the hanging scene. I have the clip on my computer. But I wasn't around when it first aired, I saw it on DVD, and I'm very glad for it. That would have been frightening because it was clearly no dream.

I just wasn't scared for Charlie at all actually. Although, visually it was kinda freaky seeing someone stabbed in the neck with a spear! Ewwww.

I think that was really the point. No matter how much I told myself he wasn't really dying in this ep, seeing an actual full scene (not flashes) of a nasty, bloody death just kicked an emotional response in me. It just made the possibility of Charlie dying seem real and I realized I would have a hard time with it if it happened. It was upsetting and I couldn't help myself.

You know, despite finding Pace's antics a bit overblown, she was the first--FIRST person I thought of when I saw Charlie die in the flash-forward, I was absolutely shocked when it happened, and I loved every minute of that episode.

Poor Pace though, really, when Charlie does finally meet his end it's going to be pretty rough. Seeing that reminded me how much I like the character, but it was great -great- writing and acting all around.

Hmm.....I prefer the word exuberant Lucent. ;) Love me or hate me, I'm a true fan. :). And I think it's sweet and very funny that so many fusies thought of me when watching this. I love you guys.

Yeah as soon as he stepped on that trip wire, I knew he was done for. I just didn't expect it to be so gruesome.

That's it. I didn't expect it to be so graphic. I guess we really are on at 10pm now and it showed. I thought we'd see the arrow fly and then Des would wake up. Until now we haven't actually see Charlie get hurt at all and that was smart, because it made this one very shocking, despite all the talk about him dying over and over. It's not the same until you see it.

I actually thought of you Charlie fans when seeing this. I was like "I bet they were freaking out". I texted my friend during it when I saw that Charlie was writing a song. I have always told her "Charlie, being the rock n' roller that he is, will not die before he has written his comeback song." At least that's what I think is Charlie's "redemption factor". So I was freaked out when he was sitting on the beach, guitar in hand with a pen and paper.

It was interesting that they showed that because Dom told Kristin that Charlie will soon be tortured and will write a song during the experience to escape it in his head. So when I saw the notebook I thought it was a little reminder to the viewers that he still writes songs, because he hasn't had his guitar all year. It was setting up what's to come. I hope he survives it then, because then it will be his episode.

not surprised at all to see this thread from you pj!!! as soon as it happened i immediately thought "i bet pj is having heart failure right about now". so funny that so many of us immediately think of you when something happens to charlie. :)

the way they played out charlie's "death" in this episode rocked. it was such a great twist and i also have a new liking for desmond (he hasn't been my favorite). i'm really interested in seeing how this plays out over the next couple of weeks.

Predictable aren't I? The writers know it too. :frown: I'm like putty in their hands.

I'm interested in seeing how they resolve this as well. Frightened, but interested. :rolleyes:

:biggrin: I can just imagine Dom walking around set with that huge bloody arrow in his neck and a big grin on his face. I bet there'll be some funny outakes on the DVD.

I thought the same thing! I was hoping they'd do a Lost On Location segment about shooting the "death" scene. Or at least bloopers would rock. I'm glad he enjoyed it anyway. :)

Honestly TPTB are so cruel to the Charlie fans. Is it not enough that we had to see our boy hung by the neck? We have to watch him get shot through the neck too?!!

I picture Damon wearing his save the junkie t-shirt sitting around the writer's room rubbing his hands and giggling like a gremlin over this.

Looks like Desmond might have two lives to save. Charlie from being killed by the universe and pacejunkie from having a heartattack watching it.

Somebody keep the defibrillator nearby. :frown:

For one hot minute, I thought that we were watching Charlies die. Not one of Desmond's flashes, but his actual death. My god, my adreneline was pumping through my body. Then, we had to sit through the entire episode waiting for it to happen. I really thought that Charlie was going to go, when Desmond lied to him and said that Charlie only needed to be there and there as no death in it for him. I understood that Desmond thought that he was trading Penny's life for Charlies, but man I would have been so peeved if this was the way that Charlie went.

I also thought of Pace and Captain F during the opening scene.

I kept saying holy *#%@ they killed charlie!! holy *#%@ they killed charlie!!

You trying to kill me too writers??? :confused:

OMG that opening scene! :eek2: I had to endure the most gruesome death scene for Charlie only to breathe again when it was a dream...

Yeah, my wife freaked out. She's been watching since "I Do" and when that arrow struck she looked at me and said "WHAT JUST HAPPENED?!".

She's pretty upset that I got her interested. She just doesn't appreciate the art form of cliff-hanging serials so much. :)

this thread says it all.. omg.. I too was devistated over seeing that scene with charlie. I am not a charlie hater or want to him go..and seeing that was horrible.. horrible.. then the end with desmond deciding - I came out of my chair yelling at the tv for him to save charlie.. awsome..

I knew Charlie wouldn't die because he is the focus in flashbacks in an upcoming episdoe titled "Greatest Hits". I remembered the circumstances to when the arrow hit him and started to get nervous when it started raining. When they came upon the trap, I was actually yelling at the TV "You better save his butt Desmond!" Yeah, got a little into it there at the end, don't ya think? Made my wife yell at me to don't do that. LOL!!

OMG, Shocked, my first thought was of Pace, Elf & Captain. I felt for all of you!

Charlie has died twice, now. That's enough!

I'm sorry but I don't think Desmond has enough "good guy" deep inside of him to make me positive he wouldn't let Charlie die if he thought it would get him to Penny... :uhh:

I think they ve done an excellent writting there. But it was a bit obvious since
Charlie still has an episode for his flashback.

You trying to kill me too writers??? :confused:

OMG that opening scene! :eek2: I had to endure the most gruesome death scene for Charlie only to breathe again when it was a dream, then to watch an entire hour of Desmond leading Charlie to it. When that scene started happening again and he was about to trip that wire I starting screaming at my TV, "STOP! STOP! STOP! CHARLIE!! STOP!!!!!!!!" I mean, I was pretty sure he wasn't dying but they sure cut that close. Scared the bejeebers out of me. :frown:

This was the most difficult Lost ep I've ever sat through. Yeah, it was good, but HARD. My heart was pounding for an hour straight.

So what were your visceral emotional reactions to what you were seeing? Anyone else freaked out despite their best sense?

I hope they don't do that to me again. I don't think I'll survive another Charlie death.


duh! you really yelled at the screen like that!?? you really didn't think that was a dream/flashback type scene that desmond has ? we saw the previews for this past episode last week, and charlie was in it, therefore, we knew charlie wasn't dying!
in fact, it seems obvious , by now, that charlie isn't the main character that is going to die before season's end.

I was FREAKING OUT. I suddenly thought that the episode that was slated for Charlie FBs was a foiler to mislead us and that he was really going to die. I was really fearful that Desmond was too determined to see Penny again to even think about saving Charlie when it really happened.

I really like Desmond more since he wasn't selfish enough to let someone die because he wanted to see someone again.

OK being a Brit, I wasnt much of a Charlie Shipper until Catch 22. I shouted out loud CHAR - LIE! No way he can die....Aint possible.....Kill someone else writer and I dont even care if its....Sawyer!!!!! or Jack!!!!!! Doms acting is excellent. Keep him I say!:biggrin:

In the end when Charlie steps on the tripwire for real, I was about in tears. I'm a fan of both Desmond and Charlie's characters so thinking that Desmond might ACTUALLY take the arrow for Charlie was my own personal catch-22 and probably its own circle of hell.