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lostgurl
04-19-2007, 01:20 AM
What do you guys think made the helicopter crash? Do you think there was more people onboard?

emmadoggy
04-19-2007, 01:25 AM
Very good question! I have no clue. Maybe it was running out of fuel? Hope our parachutist is able to give some answers!!

ame en peine
04-19-2007, 01:27 AM
I think whatever surrounds the island, perhaps a field of some sort causes anything entering to break apart by vibration.. Like when a jet hits the sound barrier, only much more intensified..

1dimpleonly
04-19-2007, 01:27 AM
I'm just guessing, but I remember that it sounded like it was running out of gas. Just a guess, but that's what occurred to me first...

lockesmithe
04-19-2007, 01:32 AM
My guess, based on the outfit the parachutist was wearing, was that it was expected that whatever vehicle the person took to the island, it would be rendered useless. The outfit looked almost like a high-altitude skydiving outfit, and the beacons (is that what they were?) suggested to me that they were automated, perhaps because the very survival of a person making the trip to the island would be in doubt.

This person looked dressed for trouble. Perhaps due to fuel consumption and range, the trip was designed as a one-way trip.

Amber
04-19-2007, 01:35 AM
There was this guy on another messageboard who was saying that there are 6 kinds of helicopters where a person can press an eject button, and be released from the propellers. He said they're used in the army. I can't confirm this, because well, I don't know anything about helicopters. I think that could be why we saw something (the propellers?) crash into the ocean, and then almost behind them the parachutist was coming down into the jungle.

Saukkomies
04-19-2007, 01:37 AM
More questions would be: what kind of range do helicopters have? How far can they fly? Did it take off from a boat or some land? Are more people coming?

lostgurl
04-19-2007, 01:40 AM
I think whatever surrounds the island, perhaps a field of some sort causes anything entering to break apart by vibration.. Like when a jet hits the sound barrier, only much more intensified..

This is kinda what I was thinking too. Desmond trying to leave on his boat couldn't get outside of it, the helicopter couldn't get in. It definitely did seem to be making strange noises before it crashed, but maybe it was struggling too hard against whatever is protecting the island? Or it had flew so far that it was running on fumes..why would they not turn back before that though?

Ator
04-19-2007, 01:42 AM
Wow...now we're up to about 9 different "helicopter" threads on this board. I realize the "search" function is disabled on Lost Wednesday...but scroll around the board a lil bit, folks!!...People look at the first page of threads...don't see 'helicopter" and start a new thread.

Hope the MODS come thru and consolidate these redundant threads!

lostgurl
04-19-2007, 01:54 AM
Wow...now we're up to about 9 different "helicopter" threads on this board. I realize the "search" function is disabled on Lost Wednesday...but scroll around the board a lil bit, folks!!...People look at the first page of threads...don't see 'helicopter" and start a new thread.

Hope the MODS come thru and consolidate these redundant threads!

I did look through the threads and I didn't see anything about why the helicopter might have crashed. Being the island has some freaky stuff going on with things crashing on or near it, I thought it was a good idea for a discussion.

ozieozwall
04-19-2007, 02:20 AM
My theory was the helicopter was on a one way trip. The pilot ran out of fuel and then parachuted onto the island. In my theory the island run at a slower time line than the regular world. That said, Penny sent someone out to look for Desmond and the helicopter ran out of fuel looking for him. The pilot ejected and landed on the island.

Amber
04-19-2007, 02:27 AM
I'm pretty confident with the ejected parachute thing.. but where did she come from?? How far can those things fly?

bgmacaw
04-19-2007, 02:42 AM
My guess is that our old pal Smokey took it out and the pilot ejected just in time. Smokey has a thing for pilots you know.

Heroic Poser
04-19-2007, 02:46 AM
How do you jump from a helicopter?

shyguy
04-19-2007, 02:49 AM
The supply drop planes don't break apart near the island. How do they survive the islands force, but a passenger plane and helicopter can't?

Amber
04-19-2007, 02:55 AM
The supply drop planes don't break apart near the island. How do they survive the islands force, but a passenger plane and helicopter can't?

We don't know for sure if they're planes..

ame en peine
04-19-2007, 02:55 AM
I posted this in another thread- it doesn't necessarily have to be a helicopter... It could have been a VTOL (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VTOL)(vertical take-off & landing) aircraft.. An airplane, but with rotors to allow for vertical ascent/descent.. This type specifically is a tiltorotor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiltrotor)



The supply drop planes don't break apart near the island. How do they survive the islands force, but a passenger plane and helicopter can't?Has it ever been confirmed that planes are used during supply drops?

Amber
04-19-2007, 02:57 AM
How do you jump from a helicopter?

It's not that kind of helicopter.. its a type that the army uses. You can press an eject button and float down with the parachute. Kind of like this I think:

http://www.michaelworth.com/photos/T_Bird_6_eject.jpg

LovesLaboursLost
04-19-2007, 03:21 AM
The supply drop planes don't break apart near the island. How do they survive the islands force, but a passenger plane and helicopter can't?

I think that the supply drops are from the island: somewhere there is a huge warehouse, and the drops are made by automated aircraft.

Alaskannut
04-19-2007, 03:33 AM
There was this guy on another messageboard who was saying that there are 6 kinds of helicopters........
There are 2 with built in ejection systems--the Eurocopter Tiger and the Russian Ka-50, both of which are gunships


That said, you CAN jump out of a normal chopper too, so long as it is in stable flight or hovering

Amber
04-19-2007, 03:38 AM
There are 2 with built in ejection systems--the Eurocopter Tiger and the Russian Ka-50, both of which are gunships


That said, you CAN jump out of a normal chopper too, so long as it is in stable flight ot hovering


Yeah.. I don't know what gunships are, or Tigers or Ka-789's :biggrin: I just took the guy's word for it because he worked on planes and heli's.

abbybaby
04-19-2007, 03:45 AM
My guess is that our old pal Smokey took it out and the pilot ejected just in time. Smokey has a thing for pilots you know.


It couldn't have been smokey he can't even jump high enough to get over an electric fence! Smokey will get this pilot later in the jungle like he did the first one:biggrin:

Alaskannut
04-19-2007, 04:06 AM
Yeah.. I don't know what gunships are, or Tigers or Ka-789's :biggrin: I just took the guy's word for it because he worked on planes and heli's.
Gunships = attack helicopters--one's with lots of guns and missiles


I'd post some pics....but I can't figure out how:confused::redface:

Colonel Sanders
04-19-2007, 06:54 AM
I heard a weird electrical "screeching" sound when the Chopper's sound was cutting out......allmost like the helicopter was coming into resistance against something.

novagator
04-19-2007, 07:53 AM
Helicopters have a typical range of 250 to 300 miles tops, they suck gas faster than a hummer.

Also helicopter pilots don't wear oxygen masks, the pilot was dressed for a fighter aircraft and not a helo.

Deadshot
04-19-2007, 07:55 AM
I posted this in another thread but it's a bit more relevant here.

I think she was dressed like that because she knew she would have to bail out. Didn't the button stop the build up of some kind of EM energy and when the failsafe was turned it dispersed it all. So maybe now that same EM energy has formed a field around the island. Hence the communications failure and the fact that no one can leave it anymore.

maverick06
04-19-2007, 08:09 AM
I second the range of 250-300 being a decent guess... the sound was also that of the blades being slowed down. It was definitely a helicopter sound, not a VTOL aircraft. The *thump thump* sound is from the rotor tips being near the sound barrier... my gues is that its engines shut down probably due to lack of fuel...

and yes, the parachutist definitely seemed to be dressed for more than expected. The helmet is nothing abnormal, but the oxygen mask was likely unnessicary. Pilots are only required to wear it above 12,000 ft, or if above 10,000 ft for more than 30 min (I think, its something like that). A helicopter wouldnt fly that high, it makes it even more inefficient...

Lostie97210
04-19-2007, 08:21 AM
My cable was all screwed up last night, so I watched the show on a VERY fuzzy network station. I didn't get to see the crash, so my question is for you guys who have very clear TVs: are we sure the pilot came from the "helicopter"? What if it was just a coincidence. Her gear made me think she was flying very high, not in a helicopter. But since I couldn't really see the TV, this is all speculation. ;)

lostlocke
04-19-2007, 08:38 AM
I am not convinced that the helicopter was the thing that fell into the water. Until it's proven or that girl says that it crashed I won't believe it really.

rabidranger
04-19-2007, 09:54 AM
I think the sonic fence that is used to keep Cerberus under control is a clue as to what kind of barrier surrounds the Island. That would also explain the "bumpy ride" that Ethan alluded to when he explained to Juliet why she had to be strapped in on the sub.

Colonel Sanders
04-19-2007, 09:57 AM
My cable was all screwed up last night, so I watched the show on a VERY fuzzy network station. I didn't get to see the crash, so my question is for you guys who have very clear TVs: are we sure the pilot came from the "helicopter"? What if it was just a coincidence. Her gear made me think she was flying very high, not in a helicopter. But since I couldn't really see the TV, this is all speculation. ;)

It was very heavily implied that there was where she came from. I'd like to see some screen caps of the spalsh in the ocean to see if there was any shape to what caused it. On first view though, it was too dark to make it.

Heroic Poser
04-19-2007, 11:57 AM
Ya, my thoughts were too that she was dressed for a "one way trip" and knew about the whole "bumpy ride" in getting there.

lost-extra1
04-19-2007, 12:08 PM
I think I know why it crashed. I think that before DHARMA set up the Swan, the EM field naturally existed and encompassed the whole island. DHARMA set up the Swan at the center of the EM activity, and the Swan somehow blocked the field (probably for the purpose of their experiments). Then they found out that the energy had to be discharged regularly, hence the button.
When the Swan was destroyed, the EM field went back to how it was, encompassing the island. This cuts out the Others communication, and could have effected the helicopters instruments (especially if it was an Osprey).

gradyboy37
04-19-2007, 01:22 PM
Whoops- accidentally started a thread that's exactly the same as this one. It got closed, as it should have, though.:) Here was what I said there:

I was always under the impression that the island was somehow protected and cloaked by a kind of invisible barrier that was powered by the elctromagnetic energy from the hatch. Ben had said that God can't see this island, and the sub shook furiously when it passed through the barrier. But with the explosion/implosion of the hatch, wouldn't whatever kind of electromagnetic field that surrounded the island have disappeared? What made the helicopter crash? Is the invisible wall still there?

(On a side note, maybe Penny is still in the crashed helicopter, and she'll wash up on shore soon! :biggrin:)

segale2001
04-19-2007, 01:23 PM
I dont think it crashed.

lostgurl
04-19-2007, 02:12 PM
I dont think it crashed.

What do you think might have fallen into the water if not the helicopter? The helicopter did start to make some weird noises, but I guess they could have dropped off something and turned around?
I'm still leaning more towards the helicopter being the cause of the huge splash.

BoogaFrito
04-19-2007, 03:21 PM
How do you jump from a helicopter?If it's not flying upside down you'd probably be fine...