Go back and watch the ending of "Live together Die Alone" Penny has been looking for desmond, and she found the boat. There has been some talk about a possable hatch door in the sky. This island could be on a main land, but underground. Could it be possable that the island is undernith Antarcitia?

Yeah... I'm not sure about the whole "hatch in the sky" idea, but I've been wondering about whether the Losties have stumbled across an entrance to the hollow Earth:

http://strangemaps.wordpress.com/2007/03/01/85-inside-the-hollow-earth/

Note the city just to the left of "Central Sun."

My theory is the island is in some kind of time differential were it moves at a slower rate than the rest of the earth. The rough travel Juliet was told about could be time travel, I don't buy that she reached the island in a sub, except maybe a sub was used to move her after the time travel.

My theory is the island is in some kind of time differential were it moves at a slower rate than the rest of the earth. The rough travel Juliet was told about could be time travel, I don't buy that she reached the island in a sub, except maybe a sub was used to move her after the time travel.

I definitely think that there was some other form of transportation taking place besides the sub as well. Time travel? maybe but I'm open to other ideas as well. As for the island being underground, I've never thought that. I tend to say no, just because I have a feeling it's not.

The Hollow Earth idea is interesting. Kind of makes sense, especially with all the talk of "Advanced Races" and stuff.

Its a good idea but doesnt really explain the sun, moon , stars. We have been shown star constellations before, i cant think there is a duplicate universe inside the earth. Also claires pigeons were tagged and migrating. This to me means the island whatever it is on the surface of the earth.

I thought the chopper was super wierd. I understand that it was supposed to be busted, but still it sounded more like a "water-pipe" than a chopper;) . Maybe it was a rail-car on the underside of the "cieling". I dunno.

Did it seem to anyone else that the chopper was approaching the Island from the sea, and then crashed, but somehow the girl landed inland?? IMO it looked like the chopper hadn't been directly over the Island yet?...

I actually had the thought that the islands were man made. So, not necessarily underground, but definitely in a controlled environment. (akin to Desmond's flippant comment; "we're in a bloody snowglobe!")

Especially SHAMBALLA in the left hand side....
("The Road to Shambala" in the VW van, anyone?)
Might make sense...

My theory is the island is in some kind of time differential were it moves at a slower rate than the rest of the earth. The rough travel Juliet was told about could be time travel, I don't buy that she reached the island in a sub, except maybe a sub was used to move her after the time travel.

I agree with you in theory, except about her not being on the sub the whole trip, perhaps the sub passed through a time dilation barrier, ala the stargate universe, keeping with the belief that the island is in a different time than the rest of the planet.

Although we have been given some evidence that this is wrong, one thing that comes to mind is the incident with the portugese guys and penny it "seemed" as though they were observing the anomoly in real time. but who knows what year they were watching it during. it could have been 6 years after desmond left for the race, where as for him it onjly being 3.

Perhaps they've all been shrunk to the size of electrons and their entire universe is really just a drop in a dish on Jacob's desk. Oh wait that's what OUR real life may be.... opps.;)

Do you guys remember (I think it was in the Season Two Finale) when Ben said something like "God can't see us here". I have always thought that that must be some sort of clue. Where could God not see them? Is that a clue about time travel?

Is the island underground? NO.

It may be on a sound stage, but it's not underground.

The main problem with this theory would be the sky:

- you would have to build a truly giant dome (we're talking miles/kilometres here)
- you would have to project a picture of the actual sky to the inside of the dome (which is both technically difficult to realize and highly energy-intensive)
- you would have to waste even more insane quantities of energy to simulate tropical sunshine (making enourmous infared emitters/spotlights a neccessity)

-> All in all, you'd probably need several nuclear power plants to keep it running and because of the size alone, secrecy would be pretty much an impossibility. Also, if you were to plan such an artificial environment, you'd likely choose to simulate a more moderate climate, again because of the amounts of energy needed.

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It would be much easier to get your basic run-off-the-mill, not-to-close-to-any-populated-area island and build tunnels underground for the personel. If done properly, you could watch the experiment or whatever the main idea is conveniently from below.

Perhaps the Dharma people are doing exactly that.
Perhaps the Others are only actors to stimulate the Losties/test subjects to go into certain directions.
Perhaps Smokey is just a better version of your average CTV system for the watchers.
Perhaps I am completely insane, but as far as I know, nothing contradicts this theory so far.

Do you guys remember (I think it was in the Season Two Finale) when Ben said something like "God can't see us here". I have always thought that that must be some sort of clue. Where could God not see them? Is that a clue about time travel?


I actually took Ben's line to hint at all the miraculous "healing" that takes place on the island, or the idea that people who shouldn't have survived certain ailments, have.
As if to say, "Anywhere else in the world, God's plan is in motion." or "This island is where the forsaken go." or something to that affect.

Of course, this theory might be too theologically based, but the writers certainley haven't avoided theology in other aspects of the show...so who knows????

Thank you for mentioning this quote again, though. That line stayed with me too:)

The main problem with this theory would be the sky:

- you would have to build a truly giant dome (we're talking miles/kilometres here)
- you would have to project a picture of the actual sky to the inside of the dome (which is both technically difficult to realize and highly energy-intensive)
- you would have to waste even more insane quantities of energy to simulate tropical sunshine (making enourmous infared emitters/spotlights a neccessity)

-> All in all, you'd probably need several nuclear power plants to keep it running and because of the size alone, secrecy would be pretty much an impossibility. Also, if you were to plan such an artificial environment, you'd likely choose to simulate a more moderate climate, again because of the amounts of energy needed.

----

It would be much easier to get your basic run-off-the-mill, not-to-close-to-any-populated-area island and build tunnels underground for the personel. If done properly, you could watch the experiment or whatever the main idea is conveniently from below.

Perhaps the Dharma people are doing exactly that.
Perhaps the Others are only actors to stimulate the Losties/test subjects to go into certain directions.
Perhaps Smokey is just a better version of your average CTV system for the watchers.
Perhaps I am completely insane, but as far as I know, nothing contradicts this theory so far.


Love this post, concise and logical. Especially since it sounds snarky at first but it's really just addressing the issue of a dome in a straightforward way. However, this dome may not be man-made, it may be some natural phenomenon we don't yet understand.
So maybe this is what's going on, and it's likely you're not completely insane. :)
100%
I actually took Ben's line to hint at all the miraculous "healing" that takes place on the island, or the idea that people who shouldn't have survived certain ailments, have.
As if to say, "Anywhere else in the world, God's plan is in motion." or "This island is where the forsaken go." or something to that affect.

Of course, this theory might be too theologically based, but the writers certainley haven't avoided theology in other aspects of the show...so who knows????

Thank you for mentioning this quote again, though. That line stayed with me too:)

You're welcome Lostchild-and that's a pretty cool name if you ask me-but it was the talent of the writers and Michael Emerson with his spot-on performance that planted that fearful statement in my brain :) and yours as well.

And I still wonder, where can God not see them; considering Ben is referring to the traditional Western notion of God, wouldn't He be able to see all his creation even if it were hidden beneath a dome or underground or in outer space?

But maybe He couldn't see the island if it were lost in time somehow...meh?
I can't figure it out. :confused:

You're welcome Lostchild-and that's a pretty cool name if you ask me-but it was the talent of the writers and Michael Emerson with his spot-on performance that planted that fearful statement in my brain :) and yours as well.


Yeah.....Michael Emerson is the best actor on the show ( only slightly nudging Terry O'Quinn out of first, IMHO.;))

I need to research time/space theories more...they're simply over my head :undecide:

Ben (or rather, Michael the actor) responded SO quickly (and adamantly) about god not being able to see the island.....that I just couldn't help but think he was referring to the miraculous healing properties and all the other "miraculous" things that people are able to do or accomplish.

I don't know though.......Maybe it's a cult. Check this link out:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destructive_cult

certainley has similar aspects to The Others.....I don't know!!!!! I can't wrap my brain around this! AGH!