Well.... things don't look so good for Kate after her little romp in the cage with you know who. :frown:

With the distinct possibility of Sun's death on the horizon, it would be a shame for Kate to be on her way out as well.

With the distinct possibility of Sun's death on the horizon, it would be a shame for Kate to be on her way out as well.But I think the women die close to child birth. Sun has a ways to go before that happens.

Well, as Sun said, it's all in how you look at it.

I think Juliet said in an earlier episode that they were making some progress with a serum - the serum Ethan was giving Claire.

So, maybe something will happen in the next few months to help the Mothers survive.

I had a feeling about Kate...

and now kate has been with him twice... and with sperm counts over 5 times normal... its inevitable !!

*cough* YAY *cough* ok skate happiness comences.. yeah.. this is good.. or not.. IDK but im kinda happy.
i dont wnat he r to die.. but a sawyer baby is always good

Maybe the same fate won't befall our Losties. Maybe the Others die because they are being punished? (That's the notion with which I'm going.)

But I think the women die close to child birth. Sun has a ways to go before that happens.


Unfortunately no, Juliet said the women die in their 2nd trimester, Sun said she had about two months:frown:

Unfortunately no, Juliet said the women die in their 2nd trimester, Sun said she had about two months:frown:

Although, that would be about 2 seasons of Lost, so she's still got a bit of time on the show.

So Juliet is there a week to find out how many women are pregnant? I wonder how she's going to get a blood sample, or whatever she needs, from Kate? I can see Kate freaking out at the thought of being pregnant.

Although, that would be about 2 seasons of Lost, so she's still got a bit of time on the show.


Ya, Your right! I'm glad someones looking on the bright side!:biggrin: We will probably never have to worry about her not being on the show. Even if she did die she'd be in all of Jins flashbacks!;)

I immediately thought of Sawyer and Kate when Juliet was talking about the male sperm. Unless she has a carefree birth control, the odds are really good that Kate will get pregnant if she's not already. :yikes:


Maybe the same fate won't befall our Losties. Maybe the Others die because they are being punished? (That's the notion with which I'm going.)

I like that theory! It would sure show the kharma on the Island going in the correct direction! :biggrin:

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Re: kate is pregnant - thread

Yeah I totally agree, especially if Sawyer has super-sperm. All the female extras should be pregnant too, wouldn't ya think?

I'm not sure if you were supposed to use the joke font for that one... :34853_huh:

Technically, Kate & Sawyer were not on the island when they did it in the cage. They were a couple of miles offshore on another island. If this is where Kate concieved maybe she's got nothing to worry about.

we have nothing to worry about with Sun..
Look at it this way.. They've been on the island for 90 days, give or take one or two.
Each season (using simple math) lasts about 32 days on the island.
Sun has 2 months to live = VERY VERY end of season 5, maybe even surviving all 5 seasons.
Nothing to frown upon, Sun will be just allright.. unless Ben prompted Juliet to do otherwise, or if Desmond suddenly has visions about Sun! haha

Technically, Kate & Sawyer were not on the island when they did it in the cage. They were a couple of miles offshore on another island. If this is where Kate concieved maybe she's got nothing to worry about.


So do you think that was the whole point of taking them to the Hydra? Just another experiment?

Good point about Kate being in a cage on the other island -
I wonder if it is BOTH islands that women die on or just one of them -
and is Claire the ONLY one that lived - thus proving that if you come pregnant you live OR is it that Claire is the only one so far that has not been an other and therefore lived -
If Sun stays a lostie will she live

AND Kate --
Well if it really is ten times - Kate might as well say the bunny died already - that will be fun to watch Sawyers face!

Yeah, I don't think there's any way she's not pregnant, and I don't think she had an IUD put in pre-plane crash, what with all her running around. (Rob bank...check. Kill Wayne...check. Get some birth control...check).

A woman can get pregnant for several days before and after ovulation, which in most women happens every 28 days or so. And it's been how long since their cage tryst? So that's twice in that 28 day period (pun intended). And with Sawyer's sperm count 5 times more than normal (and it was probly already pretty high ;) , I agree pregnancy seems almost inevitable.

Kate has had a hysterectomy (all her girly parts removed).......so I think it is highly unlikely she will get pregnant.

Kate has had a hysterectomy (all her girly parts removed).......so I think it is highly unlikely she will get pregnant.


I am sure that if that were the case the Others would already know all about it and they wouldn't have wasted their time with her.

Kate has had a hysterectomy (all her girly parts removed).......so I think it is highly unlikely she will get pregnant.

Say again?? :confused:

Kate has had a hysterectomy (all her girly parts removed).......so I think it is highly unlikely she will get pregnant.
Eh? Is that conjecture or something I've missed from the show?

Kate has had a hysterectomy (all her girly parts removed).......so I think it is highly unlikely she will get pregnant.

Say again??:confused:

WHEN and WHERE did you hear that about Kate - that is a first for me !

They were just pulling your leg. Like I said before had Kate ever taken such drastic measures, the Others would have already known all about it and they would not have wasted their time with her.

So do you think that was the whole point of taking them to the Hydra? Just another experiment?

If that was the case, why not just take the other 9 women that Juliet said she lost to that island to conceive and then bring them back? It has to be anywhere within the 'bubble' that puts them at risk.

It probably is an experiment, as the others have shown, losing a life isn't too important to them. It seems like they are pretty cavalier about losing 9 women at least.

I guess this is why Ben wanted Kate to hook up with Sawyer. Like Juliet said, Ben like to play mind games. So the question I'm wondering, is why not Jack? Why did it need to be Sawyer?

Kate has had a hysterectomy (all her girly parts removed).......so I think it is highly unlikely she will get pregnant.


Where did you get that from?

We know from I Do that just the idea of being pregnant freaked Kate out. With all the talk of whether getting an abortion would save Sun, maybe Kate will take this option. If she is pregant.

Ugh. This is making me nauseous. Please don't let Kate be pregnant.

With the distinct possibility of Sun's death on the horizon, it would be a shame for Kate to be on her way out as well.

Yep. We've got at least 1 to 1-1/2 seasons before Sun dies (if she dies) at the rate time is moving. Each season has been roughly 30 days on the island, and if she's got nearly 2 months, then she's got nearly two seasons.

Kate hears that getting pregnant can cause death and then she sleeps with Sawyer for a second time.

Either she used protection or has had a hysterectomy (that the Others/Hostiles don't know about)

Maybe Juliet is lying about all the pregnant women dying. Maybe the Others want to keep the Lostees from procreating.( I know if word got out that I would die if I got pregnant that I would not be having any sex.) Maybe it is a psychological experiment on how the Lostees will react and behave with that information.

It doesn't really make sense though with Juliet being a fertility doctor. I'm just making a shot in the dark here.

She hears that getting pregnant can cause death and then she sleeps with Sawyer for a second time.

Either she used protection or has had a hysterectomy (that the Others/Hostiles don't know about)


This is Kate we are talking about. She doesn't exactly have a history of thinking things through.

I guess this is why Ben wanted Kate to hook up with Sawyer. Like Juliet said, Ben like to play mind games. So the question I'm wondering, is why not Jack? Why did it need to be Sawyer?

I suppsoe they chose Sawyer because, not only did Kate show a slight preference for him by asking Ben about him first, but also because they knew that he was capable of fathering a child (unlike Jack). On top of all of that Sawyer was probably least likely to be a gentIeman, and most likely to act on his desires to do the deed.
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This is Kate we are talking about. She doesn't exactly have a history of thinking things through.
Exactly!!!

Oh what an evil web we weave...Kates fate is to procreate

Maybe Juliet is lying about all the pregnant women dying. Maybe the Others want to keep the Lostees from procreating.( I know if word got out that I would die if I got pregnant that I would not be having any sex.) Maybe it is a psychological experiment on how the Lostees will react and behave with that information.

It doesn't really make sense though with Juliet being a fertility doctor. I'm just making a shot in the dark here.

I don't think so, because the first time we heard about the women dying was in Juliet's flashback, and there would be no point of lying in the flashback about the deaths.

It was inevitable that Kate would become preggers. Admittedly, her character was stuck in a rut lately and going nowhere fast by being torn between Jack and Sawyer. Her storyline had become pretty stale, IMHO. She's great to look at and all, but seriously, storywise? Huge yawn! Making her pregnant not only adds a completely new dimension to her character, it also puts her back in real danger, both physically and from manipulation by Ben and The Others. I think Ben totally orchestrated it by letting Kate and Sawyer hook up in the cage. And that may be the real reason that Juliet let them go back to the island. She knew that Kate would become pregnant, and if left untreated would in all likelihood die.

That being said, the questions now are: How will Juliet collect a sample from Kate? Will she genuinely want to help both Kate and Sun? And if so, what are the chances that one of them will be the first to survive Juliet's treatment? And which one won't? :eek2:

An absolutely stellar plot twist, stay tuned folks ...

I posted this in the K.A.T.E. thread...

regarding this issue.

What do you guys think?

http://thefuselage.com/Threaded/showpost.php?p=1514981&postcount=2108

All the Others know is that *their* people die in the second trimester. How could they know that the same will be true for the Losties? Has it ever been proven with someone other than an Other?

All the Others know is that *their* people die in the second trimester. How could they know that the same will be true for the Losties? Has it ever been proven with someone other than an Other?

All the more reasons to try to get some Losties pregnant.

All the more reasons to try to get some Losties pregnant.


Exactly....Better the 'damaged goods' NOT on Jacob's friggin high and mighty list be the guinea pigs, than another one of their own.

All the Others know is that *their* people die in the second trimester. How could they know that the same will be true for the Losties? Has it ever been proven with someone other than an Other?

Well they all had to start out being something other than an Other. As Ben said, if we believe him, he was born on that island and not many can claim that. So it's safe to assume that most of the pregnant women came from outside and the got pregnant on the island. So what's to say they weren't on the island less time than the Losties were before they got pregnant.
For one, it doesn't make sense if there are important researchers on the island (like Juliet) to get pregnant and risk losing them. (well Juliet does seem to sleep with Goodwin, so she must have some kind of protection, or isn't at risk of getting pregnant).
It would most likely be people 'recruited' from the outside world, brought there under some pretense like Juliet was and then experimented on.
This could also represent a division in the Others. Those that are experimented on, and those that do the experimenting. Those that are experimented on could be the Hostiles that Marvin speaks of in the Flame video. Dharma (Others) could have wiped them out for whatever reason.

All the Others know is that *their* people die in the second trimester. How could they know that the same will be true for the Losties? Has it ever been proven with someone other than an Other?

Thank you. This is a critical point - so critical that Ben made an enormous big deal, for instance, in telling Locke in essence, "I want to know why you're not in that wheelchair, and I am."

IOW, not everything goes for The Others according to plan. The implication I got from Ben's tumor, surgery, the whole interchange between Locke and Ben is that the Others, under Ben, are somehow not "in tune" with the Island.

Note that The Others have built a fence to keep the smoke monster out. Yet the smoke monster is not a universally evil or horrible enemy. The Others, however, are living in a way that is highly "artificial" to the Island, perhaps even seen as prideful or arrogant.

It's understandable that Juliet would not think "outside the box" - that she would simply assume that because Other women died, Lostie women would die as well. Further, wouldn't it have been ironic if what Ethan and Juliet had done to those women *caused* them to die - that if the Other women had been living in the caves, or on the beach, or somehow *in tune with* the Island, that perhaps they and their offspring would have lived?

That's a speculation, of course - but that would be my question, were I Sun or Kate or any other Lostie woman pregnant or possibly so - why do you think this is going to happen to us?

Because it might not.

All the more reasons to try to get some Losties pregnant.

I imagine the Others are running low on volunteers from their community.
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It was inevitable that Kate would become preggers. Admittedly, her character was stuck in a rut lately and going nowhere fast by being torn between Jack and Sawyer. Her storyline had become pretty stale, IMHO. She's great to look at and all, but seriously, storywise? Huge yawn! Making her pregnant not only adds a completely new dimension to her character, it also puts her back in real danger, both physically and from manipulation by Ben and The Others.

An absolutely stellar plot twist, stay tuned folks ...

I think Sun will fulfill the function of the pregnant woman in danger. There is no need to duplicate the situation with Kate.

Just to throw this in....Analucia could also be preggers w/ super sperm Sawyers kid (they has sex before she was shot by Michael) So if they start figuring out the people they buried might not be dead they might dig up a chick thats nine months pregnant.


hey, it can happen. :rolleyes:

I imagine the Others are running low on volunteers from their community.


BINGO. I also think they know that there are certain Losties that would do just about anything to get off that island.

Kate hears that getting pregnant can cause death and then she sleeps with Sawyer for a second time.


Exactly!that only proves that she knows much more than she lets out!dont forget about the strawberries on the beach!she actually did eat those!dont forget she might be working with the others!so ,she knows that maybe she is not risking her own safety by sleeping with Sawyer and even getting preggo,cos she can leave there whenever she feels like it ,and NOT DIE!

kate will have a bit of time if it does happen as sun gt pregnant 50 something days ago and now has 2 months so kate will prob have a bit longer; which is like 2 or more seasons

Just to throw this in....Analucia could also be preggers w/ super sperm Sawyers kid (they has sex before she was shot by Michael) So if they start figuring out the people they buried might not be dead they might dig up a chick thats nine months pregnant.


hey, it can happen. :rolleyes:

Didn't ana-lucia lose a child from a shotting in her flash back also? :frown: