Anyone? I know she didn't say thank you.

ETA: If you don't want to read through the entire thread to find out what she said, it has been discovered that what she said, in Portuguese, " I am not alone "

No idea, but the minute she said it I knew that the translators on this board would be on it in minutes. It was definitely not thank you.

It wasn't thank you. I know how to say Thank you in Italian, and that wasn't it. lol I would write how, but I stink at the spelling. lol

Whatever it was, Patchy didn't want the Losties to know.

As soon as the parachutist (do not say the name that we all know,..lol),...I thought that Mikail was lying on the interpretation.

I am of the opinion that the parachutist is a plant for the Others. Everything she said should be seen as suspect.

I did notice that Mikail was anxious to get the sat-phone,...makes one wonder why? To keep if from the Losties, to return it to the Others, or to Other-Others, or did he take it for his own personal use?

Makes you wonder if Mikail is trying to get off the island too?

yeah I totally didn't trust Mikhael. How could anyone trust him? I'll be watching this thread waiting for someone to clue me in! The only thing I know in italien is "Gratzia milea ganzo amicho!"

I think the parachutist recognized Mikhail. She was terrified that they were letting him come near her. I'm sure she said something to the effect that he was a goner, she was going to sic her people on him, etc. He was sure in a hurry to get away from her as soon as possible.

When the Italian speakers arrive, we'll know for sure.

Cardie

Well I'm pretty certain the parachutist is a plant and working for them. Thats why she told Hurley they found the plane and there were no survivors, to make them all give up hope of being found and getting off the island.

Isn't there a thread in Italian? Let's go there ... wait ... it's in Italian. Hmmm!

Let's hope an Italian viewer can translate into English. I speak Spanish but some words don't translate very well. It's like it's an entirely different language.

I don't think she's a plant. I think she's from Penny and the Widmores, but I think the Widmores have a score to settle with the Others.

Cardie

Well I'm pretty certain the parachutist is a plant and working for them. Thats why she told Hurley they found the plane and there were no survivors, to make them all give up hope of being found and getting off the island.

I don't think she's a plant it's possible that the Other's organization with it's unlimited funds faked a crash to keep the rest of the world from looking for 815 and keep the island secret

In Jeff Jensen's article last week on EW.com, he alluded to something very interesting...

Jensen said that the new arrival on the Island was bringing a message that was well, "deadly" here is a link to the article: http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20035727,00.html 5th paragraph down

I don't think she's a plant. I think she's from Penny and the Widmores, but I think the Widmores have a score to settle with the Others.

Cardie

ding ding ding

I think we have a winner Bob.

cheers

She said," I'm not alone". From Lost-media, not me.http://lost-forum.com/showthread.php?t=59468

Mind posting the link to that for us? Thanks

I don't know if I think she is a plant but I do find it a bit suspicious the way that Mikhail ran right into the party after Hurley fired the flare gun. It was almost as if he was expecting it.

ALSO,
Why was Mikhail in the area?!
Maybe he does know something about her arrival...
Kind of convenient?! or is this to help move the storyline
and add mystery?!

I've been working on this over at a translation site. I know a little Italian, mainly musical terms, but alone would be "solo", and she said "soso". What she said sounded something like "ano istoso" or "ano ristoso" or something like that. Still working on it, though. Hopefully someone will get it soon. Hope it's important. Probably going crazy over it for nothing. lol

She said," I'm not alone". From Lost-media, not me.http://lost-forum.com/showthread.php?t=59468
Sweet, looks like Mikhail will get a jump on finding the other jumper and use him/her as some sort of leverage.

Well I'm pretty certain the parachutist is a plant and working for them. Thats why she told Hurley they found the plane and there were no survivors, to make them all give up hope of being found and getting off the island.

Wow, my brain wasn't working tonight, cause I didn't even think of that! Good thinking, diabolo!

I don't think she's a plant. I think she's from Penny and the Widmores, but I think the Widmores have a score to settle with the Others.

Cardie

An interesting though. What would the score be in regards to? Research gone haywire?

She said," I'm not alone". From Lost-media, not me.http://lost-forum.com/showthread.php?t=59468

If true (not doubting you):


I wonder if this could be the set-up for the introduction by season's end of Widmore to the Island (assuming Naomi is working for Penny, and by extension Widmore Industries)?

Yeah..I told my husband I was going on the 'Lage to see what she really said. ;)
I could tell Mikhail was lying but have no idea what she really did say.

I've been working on this over at a translation site. I know a little Italian, mainly musical terms, but alone would be "solo", and she said "soso". What she said sounded something like "ano istoso" or "ano ristoso" or something like that. Still working on it, though. Hopefully someone will get it soon. Hope it's important. Probably going crazy over it for nothing. lol

I'm a Spanish speaker, and although I don't know the first thing about Italian, the languages are so similar that I could understand what she said:

"No estou solo"

I'm just guessing with the spelling, like I said I don't know Italian. It seems like you were pretty close with your "ano istoso"; just get rid of the "a" at the beginning and add a "lo" at the end.

An interesting though. What would the score be in regards to? Research gone haywire?

Mikhail told Locke and co. that the Others wiped out the Dharma Initiative personnel when the DI tried to purge the "hostiles" from the island. I suspect Widmore is part of the larger group of powerful people (like Hanso) who had some investment in what the DI was doing, so they aren't very fond of the Others.

Cardie

Whatever she said definately ends in "oso". I've replayed it about 10 times. Now, I'm thinking the last part of it is "vistoso" which translates from Italian to English "important". The first part is what I can't find the translation for, though. "Ano" or "Ani"?

According to one site, that is the definition. According to another "vistoso" would probably be an insult.

She said," I'm not alone". From Lost-media, not me.http://lost-forum.com/showthread.php?t=59468

If that is true, then maybe Penny is on the island.

If she's not alone, then where is everyone else? On their way?

Someone in another thread brought up the possibility that she is working with the Others, and her job was to bring that communication device to the Others (the thing Mikhail took).

Ano or ani could mean something along the lines of "year".

I think the "I'm not alone" thing is interesting. We know she speaks English. Why lapse into english ONLY after Mikhail is gone?

This points to her being a plant, or that Widmore is somehow involved with the Others. I mean, why would she say "I'm not alone" in a language none of the lostees can understand UNLESS she only wants Mikhail to know?

Maybe thats why she was speaking in so many languages, to figure out which ones the losties DIDNT understand

Ok, as per the Babel Fish Translater, "I'm not alone" would be "Non sono solo" in Italian. Does someone have the audio files? Was this what she said?

personally i think her saying she is not alone was referring to the fact that she knew Mikhail was on his way since Hurley had fired the flare.

And i have posted elsewhere that i feel she is part of the Widmore group and was sent to re-establish communication with the Others, so she could have known Penny, which is why she had the photocopied picture....Penny asked her to keep an eye out for him. Once she saw Des, she was worried about what Mikhail may do to them when he got there and was trying to warn them.

ETA: ok, so i just realized my mistake here, as she said 'i am not alone' when Mikhail was already there :doh:
but i think the second part of my thread is still possible.

I was wasting my time on the Italian to English translator. Apparently she was speaking portuguese. I clicked on the link provided earlier in this thread, and found out that she said: "Eu não estou só," which is "I'm not alone" in Portuguese. The link in reference: http://lost-forum.com/showthread.php?t=59468&page=2

I was wasting my time on the Italian to English translator. Apparently she was speaking portuguese. I clicked on the link provided earlier in this thread, and found out that she said: "Eu não estou só," which is "I'm not alone" in Portuguese. The link in reference: http://lost-forum.com/showthread.php?t=59468&page=2

She's right. I'm not sure if she said "Eu" or not, but either way it doesn't change the meaning.

Ano or ani could mean something along the lines of "year".

I think the "I'm not alone" thing is interesting. We know she speaks English. Why lapse into english ONLY after Mikhail is gone?

This points to her being a plant, or that Widmore is somehow involved with the Others. I mean, why would she say "I'm not alone" in a language none of the lostees can understand UNLESS she only wants Mikhail to know?

I agree completely. I was trying to figure that out during the ep.

Unless of course, Mikhail didn't have a clue what she said and he's just bluffing???

She certainly was terrified enough!

Maybe she's an Other Other, recognizes Mikhail, and is saying she's not alone to keep him from doing anything to her? Of course, he HAD to do something to her--save her life--but she was clearly afraid of something ELSE he might do.

Maybe she IS alone. For now. Whoever sent her on that copter is lurking about somewhere near the Island!

It does make one want it to be next Wednesday, doesn't it?

I speak Portuguese and I haven't re-watched the scene. I generally watch it once, then pay more attention the second time through. What I do recall, however, is hearing the word "gustoso," which I assumed was Italian. "Gostoso" in Portuguese means "I really like." i.e. Eu gustoso muito de diet coke. I really (really) like diet coke. I could be way off, but that was my initial reaction. I just figured it was the Italian equivalent of "gostoso."

She said," I'm not alone". From Lost-media, not me.http://lost-forum.com/showthread.php?t=59468


Holy cow!! I was wondering while watching the end of the previous ep, why Des thought the parachuter was one direction and Jin the other. I thought he wanted to go the direction he did because of something in the flash and I thought maybe the location changed because he didn't kill Charlie. SO- did Des miss out on finding Penny? Will Mikhail go and get her?!? Eeeeek!

From Lostpedia (http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/D.O.C.), not sure how accurate:


"Me estoy muriendo" is Spanish for "I am dying" (from the captions)
"Aiutame sto morendo" is Italian for "Help me I'm dying" (from the captions)
She mutters in an "asian language" (from the captions) which Jin claims is Chinese
After Mikhail and Desmond treat Naomi's wound, she says something in Portuguese not spelled out in the captions. It is not "Thank you" as Mikhail claims. Instead, it sounds like "Eu não estou só" which is Portuguese (spoken with a Brazilian accent) for "I am not alone." This is possibly in conjunction with the discovery of the backpack containing the book entitled "Ardil 22" the Portuguese-language version of "Catch 22."

Well, closed captioning was no help. All it said was, "(speaking portuguese)".

It sounds like Eu no mistoso. Unfortunately, I have no idea what mistoso is. A little breakdown:

Eu - I'm 99% sure that this is correct. It means "I"

no - could be a bad accent for "nao" meaning no, or it is also a contraction in Portuguese of em o meaning in the/on the.

Mistoso - Now here's the tricky thing. Not having spoken Portuguese in about 7 years, I'm sure to be rusty. However, I have no idea what this word is. Also, I know continental Portuguese, not Brazilian and each has its on colloquial phrases. That being said, "mister" in Portuguese is "necessity." But, the sentence is lacking a verb. So I think that the no is meaning "no" and not "in the/on the." I'm wracking my brain for a verb that starts mist*, but I can't find anything useful. A stab in the dark that I don't think is correct is:
*er, *ir, *ar
"I really don't need it"

Well, now that's some useless analysis.

Yep...I speak fluently portuguese too, and she definitely said:

"Eu nao estou so" which means "I'm not alone"...that's for sure...so who else came to the Island ??

Maybe she wasn't frightened by Mikhail specifically, but by his jumpsuit. If she is there to rescue Desmond, and if Penny has any knowledge of the island, she may consider Dharma to be hostile. Just a thought

*sigh* I'm embarrassed. After reading that, I listened to it again, and I'm convinced that DharmaOS and ame are correct.

for DharmaOS:
Mas, o sotaque dela chupa* muito.

*Sim, Eu sei "chupa" e' um frase americano.

for DharmaOS:
Mas, o sotaque dela chupa* muito.

*Sim, Eu sei "chupa" e' um frase americano.

E' chupa sim !! Eu tambem tive que escutar duas vezes...
Abracos

Ano or ani could mean something along the lines of "year".

I think the "I'm not alone" thing is interesting. We know she speaks English. Why lapse into english ONLY after Mikhail is gone?

This points to her being a plant, or that Widmore is somehow involved with the Others. I mean, why would she say "I'm not alone" in a language none of the lostees can understand UNLESS she only wants Mikhail to know?
She speaks english? What did she say in English? Just Desmond's name?

Logically, a helicopter must have come from the deck of some large boat or ship. Logically she is there because of the Widmores, most likely Penny (now running the company). The helicopter crashed, I'm thinking, because of the same island created interferrence that makes sub trips rocky and guides planes and boats off course and maybe breaks them apart. Maybe magnetic, maybe a quantum singularity, maybe Smokey. The everyone was dead thing I think will turn out to be the long hinted at "what really happened" when the sky turned purple, a slip to a similar but slightly different quantum reality. I kind of like that because it suggests to me that maybe the world has been saved from the dreaded inescapable Valenzetti equation and nobody knows it yet. Wouldn't that be nice? Here's a possible title for the end of season 4 when everyone (except Locke) returns to Australia: "Return To Oz". Get it? Like it? I just love this show. I think DL and CC are brilliant beyond words. Best, Chris

She speaks english? What did she say in English? Just Desmond's name?

Well, she said something at the very end in English which was of extreme importance. I don't know how you may have missed it, but if you did, please don't read any more forums until you rewatch the episode. Don't find it on here.

I'm from Brazil. She clearly said "Eu não estou só", or "I'm not alone" in english.

I knew something was off with Mikail saying she was telling him thank you. That dude has shifty eyes...I mean eye. Thanks to all who assisted in the translations!!!

Weren't the two guys in the last scene of Season 2, the ones who called Penny, speaking Portuguese to each other? Wouldn't that lend some credence to her being associated with Penny?

Of course, she did speak several other languages too, so it could just be coincidence.

Yes, they were speaking Portugese as well. If you watch the DVD episode with the subtitles on, it will say [Speaking Portugese] and the lines in English. I've been waiting to see another Portugese-speaking character and this appears to be her.

You beat me to it, Lovemachine.

The fact that she's a Brazilian Portuguese speaker seems to indicate that she's associated with the people working for Penny in the polar research station... you know, the ones who called to tell her that they think they've found something. ;)

So she's "not alone"......should be an interesting reveal as to who was with her.

;)

I don't think she's a plant. I think she's from Penny and the Widmores, but I think the Widmores have a score to settle with the Others.

Cardie



Penny and the Widmores .......sounds like a bad 70's band :biggrin:

Edit - Could the Catch 22 be that they saved the "pilot" who has been named but musn't be named yada yada ,and have inadvertantly left Penny/whoever dying/dead ,if they left the "pilot" to die mabey they'd have found this other person in time............ooh and the sneaky Russian didn't help not translating too of course.On the "all the people of flight 815 died" thing , i think sometime in the next series were gonna see Ben fishing out a burnt piece of 815 from the sea and shipping it back to the mainland to give the illusion/idea that they all died to the outside world so he/Jacob can have his evil way with them.

Holy cow!! I was wondering while watching the end of the previous ep, why Des thought the parachuter was one direction and Jin the other. I thought he wanted to go the direction he did because of something in the flash and I thought maybe the location changed because he didn't kill Charlie. SO- did Des miss out on finding Penny? Will Mikhail go and get her?!? Eeeeek!

Great ideas in this thread. I agree that its possible two people parachuted and they went one way and found this one. She tells Mikhail she is not alone, I think as a form of protection, so he shouldn't try to kill her. He keeps this information to himself because he doesn't want the Losties to know there may be more rescuers. He may have then been in a hurry to leave with the phone because he wants to find this other person before the Losties do. Remember the Others seem determined to keep everyone on the island so they will try and thwart any rescue attempt.

Maybe she's just an X-Files fan?

These are great theories, I can't wait to see if someone else is actually on the island that came with this girl. Who could it be too? That's something that I'm drooling over to find out!!

If she's not alone, then where is everyone else? On their way?

Someone in another thread brought up the possibility that she is working with the Others, and her job was to bring that communication device to the Others (the thing Mikhail took).

Maybe thats why she was speaking in so many languages, to figure out which ones the losties DIDNT understand

I absolutely love these theories.

These are great theories, I can't wait to see if someone else is actually on the island that came with this girl. Who could it be too? That's something that I'm drooling over to find out!!

I have a theory that comes out of left field. What IF... there was a large boat positioned at the coordinates that Ben gave to Michael when he and Walt sailed away. What if this woman was also bringing Walt back to the island, in addition to the satellite phone for the Others? Do we really think they would let him go so easily?

As for the picture of Penny and Desmond... I'm not sure how that fits into this quite yet!

I don't think that just because we haven't seen Michael and Walt means that they got off the island, but I don't think this woman has anything to do with bringing Walt back. She has the picture of Des and Penny. Well, either she is in fact working for penny and was sent to find Des and the island ( don't know why penny wouldn't go herself) maybe if someone else did come with her it is Penny and she's on the island!! That would be my dream, since it would be great to happen in the finale. Or maybe the girl is working for dharma or the others and she is sent to infiltrate the camp once again like Ethan, Goodwin, etc.

When she began speaking multiple languages it was very reminiscent of the scene in Solitary when Danielle begins to question Sayid.

Other's organization with it's unlimited funds faked a crash to keep the rest of the world from looking for 815 and keep the island secret

MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY!

I sure as he77 am gonna be very irritated if I'm forcing myself to stay up until 10:00 every Wednesday night to hear a stupid conclusion that they are all ghosts in purgatory. The thought just make me so mad!

So, I too, hope that Mittlos shared remnants of the plane and wallets of the bodies - and world just believed them. I mean think about it. If you had essentially captured a bunch of people, knew the world would have a slim chance to none of finding them, and needed some human guinea pigs, wouldn't you find a way to convince the world to stop looking for them? It really wouldn't be that hard either. I mean, a few "news media" clips, some pieces of wreckage, a wallet or two, and even a couple real dead bodies (remember some of the victims DID die) then you wouldn't have too much trouble convince the general public that the crash has been resolved. Pay off a few family members and you'd be all set.

Mikhail and the girl are both fluent in many languages it seems. Perhaps Mikhail was telling the truth when he said he worked for Dharma originally. Maybe this girl works for Dharma. Even though we know that he is one of the others now. I think alot of us agree that Dharma and the others are two different groups.

Just curious, does anyone know what she was mumbling in the other languages? Like what she said in Chinese?

I read that she said "I am not alone" in Portugese. I don't speak Portugese, so I'm not positive it was that - just throwing it out there!

Does anyone know the number of languages she was speaking? I could not keep count of how many she was rambling off. And why speak so many?

Holy cow!! I was wondering while watching the end of the previous ep, why Des thought the parachuter was one direction and Jin the other. I thought he wanted to go the direction he did because of something in the flash and I thought maybe the location changed because he didn't kill Charlie. SO- did Des miss out on finding Penny? Will Mikhail go and get her?!? Eeeeek!

I like this thought ... desmond didnt change the identity of the parachutist by saving charlie ... but he may have altered which parachutist they search for ... perhaps there were 2 and desmond saw the one with the girl in it rather than penny ... and mikhail knows there is another parachutist somewhere else on the island and will capture her, maybe penny ... one question though, why did the flair attract mikhail ... and when mikhail said he already died once today i dont think he really died ... otherwise the other wouldnt have been so upset when sun shot his wife dead ... maybe the fence just temporarily incapasitated him

silveranswer - nice theory!

sickotriz - good question about the Chinese. I actually used to live in Beijing, but that was years ago, and I've forgotten all the Chinese I knew except for maybe "Ni Hao";) Anyways, somebody should translate it soon, but I wouldn't be surprised if she said "I'm dying" again. I've only seen DOC once, but it would also seem that she had an terrible accent, and with Chinese in particular, because it's a tonal language, if you don't get the tones right you can't be understood. The word "ma" said with one tone means "mother" but "ma" said another way means "cat";) There are a bunch of other rather embarassing mistakes you can make.

When she began speaking multiple languages it was very reminiscent of the scene in Solitary when Danielle begins to question Sayid.

It was. And since she was saying "I'm dying" in several languages, I think her priority at the time was to let them know how badly she was injured. It did prompt Desmond to open her suit and see the puncture wound, after all.

My take on "I am not alone" is that she is the advance scout for a task force under Penny's direction on a big ship some miles from the island. She was to see if she could find Desmond and then radio the ship where to dock to pick them both up.

Cardie

I don't think that just because we haven't seen Michael and Walt means that they got off the island, but I don't think this woman has anything to do with bringing Walt back. She has the picture of Des and Penny. Well, either she is in fact working for penny and was sent to find Des and the island ( don't know why penny wouldn't go herself) maybe if someone else did come with her it is Penny and she's on the island!! That would be my dream, since it would be great to happen in the finale. Or maybe the girl is working for dharma or the others and she is sent to infiltrate the camp once again like Ethan, Goodwin, etc.

She's most likely working for Penny, which doesn't mean she's working for the Widmore's as some have suggested. Penny and her father don't seem to have the same goals. Penny's seems to be to get Desmond back. Her father's seems to be the same as Hanso/DI/Others in whatever research is really going on there regarding Valenzetti.

Her working for Penny would explain why she had the copied picture of Des and Pen. Of course how Penny got one is a question if Desmond brought it with him to the island.

I don't think she's working with the others or brought anything for them. Mikhail probably did get something from her though, using the sat phone as a cover. Sneaky one eyed other that he is.
If she's not then this brings up an interesting question, how much from the outside world is going to be allowed in. Obviously she can tell the Losties a lot about what's going on outside. She already told them their plane was found and there were no survivors.
Taking this at face value (which is risky for this show) then the outside world thinks all the 815ers are dead. How would it work if Walt and Michael showed up all of a sudden? Or how would Jack and Juliet have made out of they took the sub back to the real world?
To me, the answer is none of them can make it back, Ben knows this and he played each of those people with his mind games.
Most likely she's part of Penny's 'search for the island' group like the two guys isolated in antarctica. So while obviously living in the real world, the news she could bring the losties would be limited since she has been engaged in the search for the island.
Of course she could be a plant and I'm back to the drawing board....

Well, here's what I don't get. If Naomi was sent by Penny, we can assume that Penny gave her some details about Desmond (the picture and his name we know about). Don't you think Penny would've mentioned, BTW, he only speaks ENGLISH?!

I just don't undertstand the need to talk in different languages. Wouldn't she have known that Des speaks English?

Yeah, it really didn't make any sense for her to talk in three different languages. If she really was sent by Penny then, as far as she knows, there's only Desmond on the island and she would know that he only speaks English. Sure, you can say that she was in shock or something like that but it still seems strange.

Well, here's what I don't get. If (this name is a spoiler until it is told to us in an ep) was sent by Penny, we can assume that Penny gave her some details about Desmond (the picture and his name we know about). Don't you think Penny would've mentioned, BTW, he only speaks ENGLISH?!

I just don't undertstand the need to talk in different languages. Wouldn't she have known that Des speaks English?

I guess she was talking in different languages because she was delirious. (psst this is a secret. she was really doing it as a plot device so Mikhail could get info the Losties didn't have. :) )

Definitely was "I'm not alone", but I think it was Italian. COULD have been Portuguese, but my guess is Italian since that is what she was speaking when Patchey came on the scene.

Hurley SHOULD have been able to understand what she said, though. I speak Portuguese and understood what she said... should be the same for someone that speaks Spanish.

After further contemplation, I don't think she had ever met Mikhail before. I'm still thinking she's a plant, but I also think she didn't have any familiarity with him or who he was. If she had, she'd have said something in Russian.

And by the way, I was listening for the russian to come out, but it didn't. Not a word.

So while she may be there to establish contact with the Others, she didn't know Mikhail.

Ok I watched the scene where she speaks Chinese again. I was right her pronunciation is awful. I'm not trying to be picky or act all superior by saying that, the fact is it's going to make it really really hard to figure out what she was supposed to be saying.

Her sentence started with "shi", but without a tone that could be either the verb "to be" or the number 10, or something else. I'm guessing it's actually supposed to be 10 because she didn't use a pronoun before it. In Chinese pronouns are mandatory because there is no verb conjugation. Could she be saying that there were 10 people with her??

Like I said my Chinese is very rusty so I'm kind of just winging it here. If anyone is fluent in Chinese we'd appreciate your help.

I was waiting to see this clarification, which may help, but haven't yet.

I'm fluent in Brazillian Portuguese as well. You don't hear her say "Eu nao estou so", because she doesn't. In portuguese, the fact that she used the word "estou" automatically means she is referring to herself.

I noticed it right off while watching the episode. She definitely said "Nao estou so". Patchy told them she was speaking italian to throw them off.

And, oh yeah, that does mean "I'm not alone"

So has anyone worked out what the Chinese was yet?

Well, here's what I don't get. If (this name is a spoiler until it is told to us in an ep) was sent by Penny, we can assume that Penny gave her some details about Desmond (the picture and his name we know about). Don't you think Penny would've mentioned, BTW, he only speaks ENGLISH?!

I just don't undertstand the need to talk in different languages. Wouldn't she have known that Des speaks English?

Which is why she wasn't exactly sent by Penny. She was sent by Widmore. She is somehow affiliated with Penny (friends or otherwise) and is doing Penny a favor by keeping an eye out for Desmond (call it mission B).
Her main mission is to re-establish communication with the Island by giving Mikhail the sat phone.....but she doesn't know who Mikhail is, so she speaks different languages until someone understands what she's saying....Mikhail arrives, tells the losties a lie about what she's saying, and she then knows that this is her contact.

I could have sworn she said, "What did one snowman say to another..." :thud:

A Brazilian exchange student in my class just listened to it a couple of times and says it definitely isn't "Thank You" but she can't understand what she was trying to say. So maybe it wasn't Portuguese/Spanish/Italian? So far nobody on this board has been able to figure it out, so maybe we need to think along other language lines...Eastern European, which might explain why McHale would understand it.

ok, I am brazilian. she says: "Eu não estou só" in brazilian portuguese, with more or less the same very bad accent that the two guys in the polar station used. That means "I am not alone".

Apologies if this was already mentioned. Lostpedia has some info about languages she spoke.

Since (she who is nameless is named) I am spoiler fonting the rest of this..

Here is the link (I didn't want to copy/paste due to copyright)...
http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/D.O.C.

[under "Cultural references"].

D/

Apologies if this was already mentioned. Lostpedia has some info about languages she spoke.

Since (she who is nameless is named) I am spoiler fonting the rest of this..

Here is the link (I didn't want to copy/paste due to copyright)...
http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/D.O.C.

[under "Cultural references"].

D/

Thanks, good link. I think those translations look pretty good, but what do I know?

Great ideas in this thread. I agree that its possible two people parachuted and they went one way and found this one. She tells Mikhail she is not alone, I think as a form of protection, so he shouldn't try to kill her. He keeps this information to himself because he doesn't want the Losties to know there may be more rescuers. He may have then been in a hurry to leave with the phone because he wants to find this other person before the Losties do. Remember the Others seem determined to keep everyone on the island so they will try and thwart any rescue attempt.

If she is not alone, perhaps this gives a new perspective to the group photos of the people dressed in all dark colors in the "Brig" promo photos. Seems like we all just kind of thought that they were "others".. even though their clothing almost has a military look to it.It will certainly get crazy if this is some kind of off-island taskforce!!

MOD EDIT- please dont forget the spoiler font in non spoiler areas, thanks!

Just watched it again.

The first time she says "Nao estou so"
The second time she says "Eu nao estou so"

Case closed.

Just watched it again.

The first time she says "Nao estou so"
The second time she says "Eu nao estou so"

Case closed.

Enlighten us then... what do these two things mean? I don't want to read the whole thread just to put those two together...:)

and when mikhail said he already died once today i dont think he really died ... otherwise the other wouldnt have been so upset when sun shot his wife dead


Maybe it's because Colleen didnt die on the island ;-)


....Just like Pickett didnt die on the Island, he died on Island #2

Enlighten us then... what do these two things mean? I don't want to read the whole thread just to put those two together...:)

They both mean "I am not alone."

And to the person who postulated that it wasn't Portuguese, when watching it with subtitled, it says, "(speaking in Portuguese)"

Here's what she said: "Do you think being on Lost will benefit or hamper our careers?"

Here's what she said: "Do you think being on Lost will benefit or hamper our careers?"

That's funny! What she said is probably so important that i was riveted by this thread so that comment was unexpected!

That's funny! What she said is probably so important that i was riveted by this thread so that comment was unexpected!

Heh. Thanks! I take great pride in introducing chaotic humor into threads. :rolleyes:

Here's an idea for why she was speaking all those languages. First, I'm guessing portugese is her native language, so that's probably what comes first when she's in shock. Second, who does she see around her? An asian man (Jin) and a slightly hispanic looking guy (Hurley), I'd try chinese and spanish too if I knew it and had a tree branch sticking out of me and those two were around.

Maybe <the unameable> applied for a Career from the adverts last year.

Can't wait to see who she brought with her

Here's an idea for why she was speaking all those languages. First, I'm guessing portugese is her native language, so that's probably what comes first when she's in shock. Second, who does she see around her? An asian man (Jin) and a slightly hispanic looking guy (Hurley), I'd try chinese and spanish too if I knew it and had a tree branch sticking out of me and those two were around.

Cool idea. In reality I think people don't mutter semi-consciously in that many languages. If you're very bilingual, and by that I mean learned both languages during childhood, then you might switch back and forth. One of my buddies who is Chinese (well he's American, but his parents a... you get the idea) used to talk in his sleep in Chinese and English. Maybe in some special cases someone might have 3 "native" languages but IMO this is pretty rare.

Well, here's what I don't get. If (this name is a spoiler until it is told to us in an ep) was sent by Penny, we can assume that Penny gave her some details about Desmond (the picture and his name we know about). Don't you think Penny would've mentioned, BTW, he only speaks ENGLISH?!

I just don't undertstand the need to talk in different languages. Wouldn't she have known that Des speaks English?

I thought it was pretty clear that she was really sick, likely in shock,
as a result of her injuries. This could cause her to babble deleriously in any
language that she knew, just to make sure everyone nearby was aware that
she was dying. Remember, the first thing she said to Hurley was
"where am I?", and that was only after she recovered from Mikhail's makeshift surgery.

I've dealt with badly injured people before: it's like talking
to someone with Altzheimers, and they often revert to their native
language.

My take on "I am not alone" is that she is the advance scout for a task force under Penny's direction on a big ship some miles from the island. She was to see if she could find Desmond and then radio the ship where to dock to pick them both up.

Cardie

I concur Cardie :cool:

Oh and this thread title sounds like one of those bad jokes: What did the Rabbi say to the priest?

Excellent job Lage-ers!

I knew I could count on you all to translate...i do agree that she was a little out of it when they found her and could have been babbling in various languages.

She has had one hell of an education...that much we know. To be fluent in 5 languages would take some time...I had 8 years of German and can just barely get by.

Any translation for the conversation that Mr Paik was having before Sun came into the office?????

THAT is the translation I would like to hear...how about a shout out from our Korean Lage posters!

One of my buddies who is Chinese (well he's American, but his parents a... you get the idea) used to talk in his sleep in Chinese and English. Maybe in some special cases someone might have 3 "native" languages but IMO this is pretty rare.

It's not just when you're biligual from childhood. I've lived all over the world and am able, therefore, to speak a smattering of French, Italian, Urdu, Indonesian, Russian and German. On rare occasions, I will dream in these languages. All of them. Tell the truth, it's weird and I'll wake up wondering what my brain was trying to do.

My thoughts on her ability to speak other languages are that she may have been some kind of government (read: intelligence) persona, and she's been hired by widmore because of her ability to do what intelligence operatives do. They are highly trained in getting in and out of combat situations without being noticed, they will usually speak several languages, and will be skilled to a degree in technological things.

I have a feeling it is because of this unique skillset that Widmore hired her for this mission, because I think that Widmore sent her to the island. She didn't know what she was going into, just that there were people on the island she needed to make contact with.

Because Mikhail was wearing a Dharma jumpsuit, maybe that signalled to her he was one of her contacts. She obviously didn't know him specifically, because like I've said before, she didn't speak a word of Russian. So, what we can glean is she was sent by someone (most likely Widmore or Penny) to make contact with Dharma personnel on the island.

That alone would explain why she never lapsed into English. She obviously knows it, and very well I might add. She heard all of the Losties speaking English to her and to each other. What she was trying to do was find a language none of the Losties understood but that the Dharma contact did, so that she could deliver her message - I'm not alone.

In Jeff Jensen's article last week on EW.com, he alluded to something very interesting...

Jensen said that the new arrival on the Island was bringing a message that was well, "deadly" here is a link to the article: http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20035727,00.html 5th paragraph down


so according to that article , someone in the losties crew is not who they say they are?

i guess the jack not being right lately goes along with this!??

:eek2:

"She's speaking Italion...she says she's dying..needs help" - Patchy

She was speaking something Italian right before Patchy said this...Is this the exact same thing she says later?

This is NOT the line about not being alone that Patchy says is thank you. This is when Patchy first realizes he understands her.

What is she saying in that initial line that only Patchy understands??? Was he telling the truth about what she said???

Translators??

I thought it was Spanish from the pronunciation, glad it was figured out, I wish if they are going to keep using Portuguese they could teach them in phonetics. It sounded like yo no estoso.

"She's speaking Italion...she says she's dying..needs help" - Patchy

She was speaking something Italian right before Patchy said this...Is this the exact same thing she says later?

This is NOT the line about not being alone that Patchy says is thank you. This is when Patchy first realizes he understands her.

What is she saying in that initial line that only Patchy understands??? Was he telling the truth about what she said???

Translators??

She really did say "Help me, I'm dying". I'm not sure if this is the scene you're talking about (?).

It's not just when you're biligual from childhood. I've lived all over the world and am able, therefore, to speak a smattering of French, Italian, Urdu, Indonesian, Russian and German. On rare occasions, I will dream in these languages. All of them. Tell the truth, it's weird and I'll wake up wondering what my brain was trying to do.

My thoughts on her ability to speak other languages are that she may have been some kind of government (read: intelligence) persona, and she's been hired by widmore because of her ability to do what intelligence operatives do. They are highly trained in getting in and out of combat situations without being noticed, they will usually speak several languages, and will be skilled to a degree in technological things.

I have a feeling it is because of this unique skillset that Widmore hired her for this mission, because I think that Widmore sent her to the island. She didn't know what she was going into, just that there were people on the island she needed to make contact with.

Because Mikhail was wearing a Dharma jumpsuit, maybe that signalled to her he was one of her contacts. She obviously didn't know him specifically, because like I've said before, she didn't speak a word of Russian. So, what we can glean is she was sent by someone (most likely Widmore or Penny) to make contact with Dharma personnel on the island.

That alone would explain why she never lapsed into English. She obviously knows it, and very well I might add. She heard all of the Losties speaking English to her and to each other. What she was trying to do was find a language none of the Losties understood but that the Dharma contact did, so that she could deliver her message - I'm not alone.

Yeah, as soon as I made that post I realized that I forgot something. I am a Spanish speaker, but only started when I was maybe 12 or 13 and do not consider myself to be a "native" speaker. But, when I was living in South America and speaking Spanish daily I would dream in Spanish. Since I have moved back to the States as far as I know I don't do this anymore.

I still think that someone being that confortable with 5 languages has got to be incredibly rare. The person would also have to be keeping up with all those languages; if you lived in France for a year when you were in your early 20's you wouldn't still be mumbling French in your sleep 20 years later. I think I have met two people in my life who were at least highly-proficient or fluent in 5 languages. Possibly one of them was good enough to in theory do what the parachutist did; she was really a genius. So, yeah, I guess the point I'm making is that this would be very very unusual.

Logically, a helicopter must have come from the deck of some large boat or ship. Logically she is there because of the Widmores, most likely Penny (now running the company). The helicopter crashed, I'm thinking, because of the same island created interferrence that makes sub trips rocky and guides planes and boats off course and maybe breaks them apart. Maybe magnetic, maybe a quantum singularity, maybe Smokey. The everyone was dead thing I think will turn out to be the long hinted at "what really happened" when the sky turned purple, a slip to a similar but slightly different quantum reality. I kind of like that because it suggests to me that maybe the world has been saved from the dreaded inescapable Valenzetti equation and nobody knows it yet. Wouldn't that be nice? Here's a possible title for the end of season 4 when everyone (except Locke) returns to Australia: "Return To Oz". Get it? Like it? I just love this show. I think DL and CC are brilliant beyond words. Best, Chris

Nothing to add to all that except: "well said,sir".

I know why she said so many languages. I bet she was just really confused. She wakes up to find some Russian guy with one eye, a large Hispanic dude, a Korean guy, a scrappy looking Brit fellow and a Middle Eastern guy.

I know why she said so many languages. I bet she was just really confused. She wakes up to find some Russian guy with one eye, a large Hispanic dude, a Korean guy, a scrappy looking Brit fellow and a Middle Eastern guy.

Scotland is in the Middle East??

Just kidding, I'm assuming you're confusing someone with Sayid??

But hey that reminds me of something interesting. I'm sure some of you already know this, but HIC is actually from Peru. His mom is Peruvian, his dad is Scotish, and was born in Peru and is a fluent Spanish speaker. It's possible that he even speaks Spanish better than Jorge, which IMO would be pretty ironic.

I know why she said so many languages. I bet she was just really confused. She wakes up to find some Russian guy with one eye, a large Hispanic dude, a Korean guy, a scrappy looking Brit fellow and a Middle Eastern guy.

Haha! No kidding! The poor girl wasn't sure which language was safe to go with did she? Great observation (except the Middle Eastern guy part...Sayid wasn't there). I wonder why she didn't speak English initially? That's always a safe bet.

I know why she said so many languages. I bet she was just really confused. She wakes up to find some Russian guy with one eye, a large Hispanic dude, a Korean guy, a scrappy looking Brit fellow and a Middle Eastern guy.

Well, I honestly didn't notice that Hurley was hispanic until we saw his FB episode. Maybe I'm not too observant.

And you can't tell that someone is british or russian just by looking at them.

What she could probably tell is that there's an asian, two caucasians, and one possibly hispanic guy.

English would have been a good bet, but, I don't think she was there to make contact with the Losties.

If it hasn't been confirmed by the powers that be, I'll offer an alternative interpretation as to what she said. Inamistoso. In Spanish, that means "unfriendly" with the connotation tending more toward "enemy." If the "I'm not alone" translation has been officially confirmed, then just disregard my stab at this line.

She said...

"This is the worst episode ever"

But seriously this thread is funny because on the first page someone writes that she said I'm not alone....and yet people kept asking over and over again what she said.

Regardless I think it's peculiar that she wakes up when Hurly says "Mom". Just like Juliette woke up right when Kate held the knife over her. Too convenient.

so according to that article , someone in the losties crew is not who they say they are?

i guess the jack not being right lately goes along with this!??

:eek2:

No, that article was in response to Catch 22, saying that in DOC she would say something deadly, which she did when she woke up and told Hurley everyone died on flight 815 :)