When he ran away from the guys and the parachuter who is yet to be named, and Jin ran (and ran) after him and tackled him and took him down with that cool crouching dragon kick, then Des and the others caught up to them... then we hear the parachuter woman moan something and she is RIGHT THERE? I mean, did they not just run through the jungle AWAY from the spot she was? Did they just run in a circle? I thought I was having a Monty Python moment and I couldn't hear the dialogue for laughing.

I thought the same at first, but I think they just cut the part where they brought him back and threw him up against a tree nearby the parachutist.

Yeah, that threw me for a 'loop' too.....

Yep. Me too.

The same sort of thing happened in Expose. We saw Nikki running and running and running and then stopping to bury the diamonds. Yet when Sawyer, Hurley and Jin found Paulo's body Sawyer took two steps away, looked past the trees, and immediately saw Nikki's little pile of dirt.

I guess that it is all just bad editing.

There was a scene change from when Mikhail had Jin up against a tree and Desmond and Charlie showed up, to Desmond pushing Mikhail up against the tree back near Naomi. They just didn't show us them walking back.

There was a scene change from when Mikhail had Jin up against a tree and Desmond and Charlie showed up, to Desmond pushing Mikhail up against the tree back near (this name is a spoiler until it is told to us in an ep). They just didn't show us them walking back.

Yeah, I was not following for a second, but then I figured it out and I agree. It seemed like a smash cut to Des throwing Mik. against the tree. I think it's one of three things: Cool/Stylish editing, sloppy editing or some kind of time "hint" (as the other poster said, the same thing happened with Nikki). I am choosing to think it's not option number 2.

IMO in order to conserve time, TPTB placed Mikhail near the Parachutist. We must assume they walked him back to were she was located.

i chalked it up to editing. they probably only had so much footage to work with and threw their hands up in the editing room and said "oh well". :) can't do a retake so with this we must air.

In the podcast I think they were talking about having to cut some stuff out because the episode ran long. I think it was to save time and bad editing.

This may be the result of a small production anomoly... or an slightly clumsy edit...

but

Jin chased Mikhail quite a way into the jungle. Then, in the next shot, Desmond his holding his flare gun to Makhail's throat only about 12 feet from the parachutist. Is it supposed to be implied that this scene is a few moments later or is there something here?

i saw this, i think it was just poor editting. i think it was meant to show that they brought him back to where the parchutist was and desmond pushed him up against a tree, once there were there, to get answers

Yeah they just cut out the part where they walked back. They are actually talking about this in another thread (http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=77396).

This may be the result of a small production anomoly... or an slightly clumsy edit...

but

Jin chased Mikhail quite a way into the jungle. Then, in the next shot, Desmond his holding his flare gun to Makhail's throat only about 12 feet from the parachutist. Is it supposed to be implied that this scene is a few moments later or is there something here?


Yeah, that was very confusing. I thought that maybe they deleted a scene in there, where Jin brought him back to the other group. :confused:

D/

Oh my goodness yes, this was a painfully obvious blunder. Oh well, if is was a necessary scene- cut, I can ignore it I guess. I just sat up on the couch and said "WHAT???, did parachute-girl just magically translocate 100 feet into the jungle!?"

Very bad editing, still a great ep.

I laughed at that too. I guess they just ran in a big circle?

It's not poor editing. It's just a particular style of editing. I'm a video editor; it's called "hard cuts". It's to show progress without showing the progress. I haven't seen them use it much in previous eps, so maybe that's why it was confusing. Frankly, I didn't like it either.

If you want a good example of this, take a look at the scene in the Bourne Identity (first movie) where Jason Bourne is in the Zurich bank's safety deposit room. He's flipping through all his fake passports in his deposit box, and the style was all hard cuts.

Yes! I noticed this right away.. it was definitely a wtf moment.

It's not poor editing. It's just a particular style of editing. I'm a video editor; it's called "hard cuts". It's to show progress without showing the progress. .

Hmmm. Well, IMO just because there is a name for it doesn't make it any less bad editing.:eek2:

This kind of puzzled me too.

It's not poor editing. It's just a particular style of editing. I'm a video editor; it's called "hard cuts". It's to show progress without showing the progress. I haven't seen them use it much in previous eps, so maybe that's why it was confusing. Frankly, I didn't like it either.

If you want a good example of this, take a look at the scene in the Bourne Identity (first movie) where Jason Bourne is in the Zurich bank's safety deposit room. He's flipping through all his fake passports in his deposit box, and the style was all hard cuts.

I watched the scene again with your post in mind bfavre444 and I did see the "hard cut" you referred to.

Hmmm. Well, IMO just because there is a name for it doesn't make it any less bad editing.:eek2:

I think it "looks" bad in this case because there wasn't enough of a change in mise-en-scene for the cut. All that jungle, the running, ending on a close-up and then opening again on another close-up. It was just confusing. You really had to be paying attention and, IMO, editing shouldn't require that much of the viewer.