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jmsh44
04-26-2007, 12:48 AM
It seems we have two more characters that appear to have been affected by the island's healing powers but why does it work on some people and not others? Lets see, people who appear to have been healed in some way or another:
-Locke (paralysis)
-Rose (cancer)
-Mikhail (foaming from the mouth and bleeding from the ears = ???)
-parachutist (we will have to wait to see on this one)
-Charlie? (being rececitated after he washung)
-Saywer (he recovered fairly quickly from that gunshot wound)
*We may or may not want to include Jin, since apparently all males on the island have an increased sperm count which fixed Jin's infertility issues.

However, why doesn't the healing powers work on others, such as : Ben, the Marshall, Boone, or Libby? Ben's cancer wasn't cured. The Marshall died from the shrapnel but Mikhail says the parachutist will live from the branch in her lung? I know, different circumstance but its the same principle. And why didn't the island heal Boone or Libby? My point is, I wonder if there are any connections between these people that we seem to be missing...

*Note: I didn't include Shannon, Ana Lucia, or Eko because it seemed like their deaths were quick. Perhaps the island couldn't heal them quickly enough.

lostnthesoutheast
04-26-2007, 01:33 AM
What if the Losties just buried Boone and the others a little too quickly, before the island could work it's magic. Wouldn't it be terrible to think that ultimately everyone in the graveyard suffered the same fate as Nikki and Paulo.:eek:

tenglan1
04-26-2007, 01:38 AM
Actually, the marshal DIDN'T die from shrapnel. Unless my memory is failing me, which is entirely possible, Sawyer shot him, then Jack severed an artery or something. I'm thinking he might have survived the shrapnel if those two hadn't intervened. But in Jack's defense, he had to base his opinion on what he knew, and what he expected the outcome of that particular wound to be. Judging from tonight's episode, it seems like the damage has to be repaired somewhat. I don't think it just gives people a Wolverine like healing ability, I think it just shortens the time it would take for a survivable wound to heal. That doesn't explain the effect on Rose or Locke, but those were very different types of "injuries". Locke's had basically already healed, just poorly and without restoring function. Not a stretch to imagine it just made the previous healing more effective.

Guinevere
04-26-2007, 01:45 AM
I think the Island's healing powers are in the ground and that might have something to do with why we do have fatalities on the Island. I posted my theory about this here http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showpost.php?p=1514102&postcount=32 .

Lost Illusion
04-26-2007, 02:01 AM
wonder if this means we'll see ms klugh back, and if this is why she was so anxious to let mikhail shoot her?

ozieozwall
04-26-2007, 02:15 AM
The Island whatever it may be can tell who is Good and who is Evil. Ben is Evil and his cancer is like any cancer a part of the mystery of nature. Since Ben developed the cancer by way of nature its not the Islands doing, but being Evil the Island isn't curing Ben.

I got this theory from next weeks promo were Locke is telling James Ford to kill someone. Locke maybe wants daddy dead and can't kill daddy or "Locke is afraid of losing his ability to walk if he kills someone an Evil murder."

IMHO the Island is perhaps Paradise Lost or the Garden of Eden. Somehow it was discovered and Dhrama initially tried to harvest the Island powers. The Hostiles (whoever they are) were also working to that end and killed the Dhrama group. Intentionally killing they were cursed by the Island and thus no pregnate women can survive. To futher there goal they need fresh humans and were better to recruit than to gather children and raise them up to work to "whatever ends" Ben's party is trying to achieve.

The Losties, are looked over by Smokie and its Smokies call who shall survive. The healing of say Sawyer or James Ford is just part of the Island intristic nature to heal. Given enough blunt trama and I think even James Ford would die, as Ana Lucia and Libby, Boone and Shannon, Artz was blown up, the last two were burried alive through greed.

What's coming IMO is the Hanso group or some other group that want to retake the Island. If it is the Garden of Eden or something similar then eventually God or a higher power that created the Island will purge all and restore the Island to its natural state.

Final thought is TPTB or writers telling us that the Island increases the sperm count. Now to create a lot of babies from just Adam and Eve it takes a huge amount of sperm cells.

Lost_in_CA
04-26-2007, 02:26 AM
We don't really know for certain that Ben's tumor was cancerous. Juliet told Ben it was a tumor, not cancer. He called it cancer. After Jack removed the tumor he told Juliet she would want to do a biopsy but we never learned if one was performed.

I'm wondering about Ms. Klugh, too. She'll probably show up next. :rolleyes:

lostchild
04-26-2007, 02:44 AM
I like the way you think Ozie.....

I've thought about that too, in terms of good vs. evil.

Although, I question Libby......(perhaps Libby was more sinister and we just haven't been privy to that info yet)

at any rate, I dig the idea that those who are "truly good" will be healed......

and essentially the others not being able to "carry on a legacy" as it were, is there punishment????

does my repsonse make any sense?

nancy
04-26-2007, 09:08 AM
I know that the island didn't cure Ben's cancer, if he even really had cancer, but I'm wondering if the island's powers to heal after a wound would speed up Ben's healing after Jack did the surgery? If so, then maybe Ben doesn't really need to be in that wheelchair anymore and is just using that for effect.

Mulder
04-26-2007, 11:13 PM
IMHO the Island is perhaps Paradise Lost or the Garden of Eden. Somehow it was discovered and Dhrama initially tried to harvest the Island powers. The Hostiles (whoever they are) were also working to that end and killed the Dhrama group. Intentionally killing they were cursed by the Island and thus no pregnate women can survive. To futher there goal they need fresh humans and were better to recruit than to gather children and raise them up to work to "whatever ends" Ben's party is trying to achieve.



I had that same thought about the Garden of Eden. The power of the island then could be based on faith. Perhaps Ben has lost his. Locke accuses him of pretty much that when he berates Ben about having chicken in the fridge.

I don't agree so much that there was a purge of the Dharma group, though obviously there are a bunch of dead people on the island with Dharma suits on. That may not mean that Dharma Initiative group people were all killed. The Others have put on several faces so far. They have been the ragged people in the tents and huts that Michael and then Jack, Sawyer, and Kate saw. Then the taskmasters that Jack Kate and Sawyer saw on the other island. Finally the denziens of otherville. They're obviously doing research, so who's to say they aren't Dharma themselves?

stefanie_bean
04-27-2007, 12:06 AM
at any rate, I dig the idea that those who are "truly good" will be healed......

and essentially the others not being able to "carry on a legacy" as it were, is there punishment????

does my repsonse make any sense?

It makes sense to me. That's why I don't believe that what happened to The Others' women will necessarily happen to the Losties women who have fallen pregnant since the crash.