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cowboy_dan 04-26-2007, 11:14 AM When Hurley said to Juliet that they "burried them over there", she looked over at the graves like "hmmmmm".
Now that the Russian came back to life, I wonder if they all come back to life ... but burring them might not be best idea (like Highlander, they would keep comeing back to life underground, then dying etc till someone digs them up).
This could also explain why the others don't get too bent out of shape when they get shot and killed by the Losties ... because they come back to life. Now if they get all chopped up, then they are probably dead.
But then why was Ben worried about the tumor? could it be that the very fact he got one? Does the island powers not always work?
duckab234 04-26-2007, 11:28 AM When Hurley said to Juliet that they "burried them over there", she looked over at the graves like "hmmmmm".
Now that the Russian came back to life, I wonder if they all come back to life ... but burring them might not be best idea (like Highlander, they would keep comeing back to life underground, then dying etc till someone digs them up).
This could also explain why the others don't get too bent out of shape when they get shot and killed by the Losties ... because they come back to life. Now if they get all chopped up, then they are probably dead.
But then why was Ben worried about the tumor? could it be that the very fact he got one? Does the island powers not always work?
the thing is, they had a funeral service for Colleen... so i think fatal gunshot wounds can kill you faster than the island can heal you. maybe 5 is the lucky number and wounds can heal five times faster, but if you have a bullet lodged in there, the chances are slim. i feel like the fence gave Mikhail a brain hemmorage that the island was able to heal after a day or so.
mikey_mike 04-26-2007, 11:31 AM When Hurley said to Juliet that they "burried them over there", she looked over at the graves like "hmmmmm".
Now that the Russian came back to life, I wonder if they all come back to life ... but burring them might not be best idea (like Highlander, they would keep comeing back to life underground, then dying etc till someone digs them up).
This could also explain why the others don't get too bent out of shape when they get shot and killed by the Losties ... because they come back to life. Now if they get all chopped up, then they are probably .
But then why was Ben worried about the tumor? could it be that the very fact he got one? Does the island powers not always work?
So the island is actually Stephen King's Pet Cemetary? Well maybe Hurley will get a second chance with Libby after all...
kokobware 04-26-2007, 11:36 AM the thing is, they had a funeral service for Colleen... so i think fatal gunshot wounds can kill you faster than the island can heal you. maybe 5 is the lucky number and wounds can heal five times faster, but if you have a bullet lodged in there, the chances are slim. i feel like the fence gave Mikhail a brain hemmorage that the island was able to heal after a day or so.
So gunshots wounds would be in the same category as REALLY serious injuries, like Boone or the Marshall? That makes sense I guess (or Lost sense at least). Or maybe they just bury everyone too soon, and if they gave them some time, they'd be up and running again like Mikhail.
What Would Jeff Do 04-26-2007, 05:22 PM I dont think Mikhail died, and i take the producer's word that the dead dont come back. I think he was just wounded pretty badly, and was able to heal because of the island.
Hanso Founder 04-26-2007, 07:20 PM If people who are killed on the island come back to life aka patchy, do you think that those who are buried will or can come back to life?
In addition what is to come of Paolo and his girl who are buried?
frigginlost 04-26-2007, 07:22 PM ah, but was patchy really dead???
Kitsume 04-26-2007, 08:52 PM The thing that bugs me is Boone. If Mikail can get nuked by a fence and perk right up after a couple days that's nice. But what about Boone? I would think that this healing factor would have saved him. If a punctured lung will heal in about 36 hours he should have been fine with Jack's help and a little time.
Madge 04-26-2007, 09:05 PM the thing is, they had a funeral service for Colleen... so i think fatal gunshot wounds can kill you faster than the island can heal you. maybe 5 is the lucky number and wounds can heal five times faster, but if you have a bullet lodged in there, the chances are slim. i feel like the fence gave Mikhail a brain hemmorage that the island was able to heal after a day or so.
Well, Colleen they set on fire and sailed her off into the night. Maybe that's the only way to 'bury' the dead on the island? Maybe putting them in the ground does something different.
ozieozwall 04-26-2007, 09:48 PM Look for season 7 called the Zombie season.
Hanso Founder 04-26-2007, 09:50 PM As of right now ...who was on 815 and has been killed while living on the island and then burried?
Eko
Boone
Ana Lucia
Shannon
Libby
the Fed agent
High school teacher
Who else.....
rayhimself 04-26-2007, 10:19 PM Don't forget Scott!!!
Wait, no, it was Steve.
Wait....hold on.....I think it WAS Scott.
Oh well, whatever, nevermind......
Btw, with Patchy rising from the dead this means we'll probably be seeing Dr. Arzt in the season finally, right?
SEEYUH!!!!!!
Im Puzzled 04-26-2007, 10:22 PM As of right now ...who was on 815 and has been killed while living on the island and then burried?
Eko
Boone
Ana Lucia
Shannon
Libby
the Fed agent
High school teacher
Who else.....
Nikki
Palo
Ethan
Oops Ethan wasnt on the plane
lostchild 04-26-2007, 10:25 PM Ethan (as we've discovered) wasn't on the plane.
We just had an episode where two people were buried alive after being presumed dead. So why are so many people so sure Mikhail was dead? Jack wasn't around to certify it. Damon and Carlton have been very clear that dead people on the island stay dead. I conclude from that that Mikhail only appeared to be dead.
AustinLostFan 04-26-2007, 10:41 PM The thing that bugs me is Boone. If Mikail can get nuked by a fence and perk right up after a couple days that's nice. But what about Boone? I would think that this healing factor would have saved him. If a punctured lung will heal in about 36 hours he should have been fine with Jack's help and a little time.
Boone has been refered to as a "sacrifice that the island demanded." I think that is why the island did not heal him.
Madge 04-26-2007, 10:45 PM Look for season 7 called the Zombie season.
I'm rather hoping there is a zombie season.
Brains!
pachinky 04-27-2007, 03:05 PM Didn't Locke say something to Paolo when he was trying to bury the diamonds about "things on this island don't stay buried for long"? That was creepy!
PennyKnows 04-27-2007, 03:16 PM Didn't Locke say something to Paolo when he was trying to bury the diamonds about "things on this island don't stay buried for long"? That was creepy!
He did about burying close to the water.
I took that comment as foreshadowing to the fact they would soon be buried alive and also to the gruesome thought all the dead bodies may be washed out to sea at some point.
I don't believe the dead people will come back to life though. At most I think Mikhail was near-death when we saw him. He was never buried like the rest. And I still stand by that TPTB said the dead stay dead....
Kathleen1 04-30-2007, 04:06 PM As of right now ...who was on 815 and has been killed while living on the island and then burried?
Eko
Boone
Ana Lucia
Shannon
Libby
the Fed agent
High school teacher
Who else.....
The Hight School Teacher was Arzt and he was BLOWN up so he was not burried
Joanna or did they ever find her body
peepstone 04-30-2007, 04:20 PM The Hight School Teacher was Arzt and he was BLOWN up so he was not burried
Joanna or did they ever find her body
I sure hope Arzt doesn't reactivate- shredded meat Arzt collecting bugs! ewwww!
EmptyJar 04-30-2007, 04:22 PM listen to the latest podcast everyone, it will clear a few things up.
We'eve been told before, buried means dead (even if you still want to hold dearly onto the debunked resurrection theories, you cant breathe under that much sand, brought back or not, they are crushed/dead again. (That's a crappy few minutes of reanimation for ya))
Further, no one said Mikail died, and no one checked his vitals. I just agree that there are some wounds that are just too serious to heal (think on the real world, if it is healable there with medical care, it is probably healable on the island with care as well. Gunshots in certain areas are worse than others, hence Colleens death and not say Sawyers or Mikes, etc. Though James did have it pretty bad for a while there...
DIonisis6 04-30-2007, 07:04 PM I haven't posted anything in a real long time but I like this thread.
I too have thought that when the Others sailed their dead off the island it was for a reason and the Losties are burrying there people.
We have seen patchy come alive and he even said he was dead....lots of people heal on the island so I can definitely see some characters being alive.
There is a long list of dead people in just a few months, but it would be interesting to see some of these characters come back to life.
I do like the theory of people in the ground just constantly dying and coming alive.
Kathleen1 05-01-2007, 04:37 PM I haven't posted anything in a real long time but I like this thread.
I too have thought that when the Others sailed their dead off the island it was for a reason and the Losties are burrying there people.
We have seen patchy come alive and he even said he was dead....lots of people heal on the island so I can definitely see some characters being alive.
There is a long list of dead people in just a few months, but it would be interesting to see some of these characters come back to life.
I do like the theory of people in the ground just constantly dying and coming alive.
But then why didnt they do the same for Goodwin, the last time we saw him he was still out in the jungle with the stick in him when he was about to kill Anna, boy I miss her, Did they do that for Danny also if they did they didnt show it and it looked like thwy woulnt have had time to with them going so quickly and all, Did they go get Mrs Bee Klugh to send her off as well??? And about Patchy being alive when Locke pushed him into the fence my sister was saying that hes not dead and to check his pulse and when he came on last week she was going see I told you he wasnt dead
Annie46 05-01-2007, 05:56 PM Okay, I may be way off base here, but ........after the show aired , there was talk about slowing down tivo while Patchy was hitting the fence. I did it and it looked as if there
was something silver in his mouth. It looked like it was in front of his teeth.
This wasn't on HD or anything so I'm not sure. Could that have been all an act
and perpetuated by something he swallowed?
100%
Sorry about two posts but I just had another thought. As far as we know, Locke has
never intentionally killed anyone. It seemed off to me that he would just throw Patchy
into the fence with the possibility of killing him. There must have been some collusion
there so that Locke was sure he would not die imho.
Dr. Suds 05-01-2007, 06:03 PM Not when you can substitute a dummy under the shroud, or when you can bury them over an escape tunnel.
caforrest2047 05-01-2007, 06:24 PM the thing is, they had a funeral service for Colleen... so i think fatal gunshot wounds can kill you faster than the island can heal you. maybe 5 is the lucky number and wounds can heal five times faster, but if you have a bullet lodged in there, the chances are slim. i feel like the fence gave Mikhail a brain hemmorage that the island was able to heal after a day or so.
Not saying there is a connecction, But maybe it is like claire in "Heroes" she "died" down by a river with a log in her head, until the log was removed at the autopsy, and she woke up/regenerated. could that be the case here if they had removed the bullet earlier she wold have lived, the island could have regenerated her.
cavalcade_of_whimsey 05-01-2007, 10:26 PM how much wouldit suck if the losties find out that at least some of the peoplethey buried could have come back to life from the island?
And dont forget what the healer in Australia told Rose, there are different places of energy in the world and different people require different energies. Assuming that, only some of the people could be healed by the island, like Rose and Locke, while others couldn't like the marshall
Maybe thats where the list comes in.
Loser3 05-01-2007, 10:48 PM LOST never gives any answers - but I do. HERE"S AN ANSWER TO ONE QUESTION!:
When Nikki and Paolo were buried there was a reason that Sawyer dropped all the diamonds on them. I know because as soon as he did this I thought to myself: "if I was one of those random extra useless characters standing around, I'd wait for everyone to leave after the burial and immediately dig those d*mn diamonds up for myself!" I guarantee that's what we'll see in some upcoming episodes- Nikki (don't know/care about Paolo) will be unburied in enough time that she'll live. Realize that heartrate is slowed down to barely alive when paralyzed by the spider. Just because the producers said "Buried is dead" doesn't mean temporarily buried means dead.
Bottom line: Nikki's the hottest chick on the show so far and that means she must show herself again - preferrably bikini-clad! :biggrin: Giggity-Giggity!
Anyone else agree???
EmptyJar 05-01-2007, 11:08 PM They were buried pretty deep, but yeah she was hot.
Also, we get answers. Rewatch this past season, we got a lot thus far. TPTB don't let us down, necessarily, they just keep us hangin on for more.
btw, why isnt this thread closed yet? buried is dead.. dirt is heavy, especialy that much dirt. And time aint gonna help either. Rain too, weighing down the sand. Or worse, the encroaching ocean that stole our fuselage might wash the bodies out to sea too. Dirt or water... both aint conducive to reanimation.
even if u want to believe in reanimation, they will just keep on dyin under the dirt. Kinduva sad story twist, don't you think???
Loser3 05-01-2007, 11:14 PM It would take two guys about how long to bury Pikki? 15-20 minutes? Depending on how slow Nikki's heartrate is, 15-20 bpm, she wouldn't be needing much breath - or if she could move her hand and make some sort of air pocket - she could survive! C'mon, help me out here!
bananna551 05-02-2007, 01:25 AM Ya I'm not really feeling this theory - they are buried they are dead. The most that will come of this is the losties will feel some serious regret after they find out all of the people they buried could have potentially been healed.
heppamies 05-02-2007, 03:41 AM The dead stay dead.
Mikhail was not dead, but only severly injured from the sonic blast, lying unconsious. Island healed him.
Case closed.
Loser3 05-02-2007, 04:21 PM The dead stay dead. Pikki was not dead. Any questions?
heppamies 05-03-2007, 02:06 AM no. she died.
cardinastephen 05-08-2007, 11:33 PM I think that if someone dies and are left alone for about a week then they can come back to life if they think the island is real and I am starting to think that Jack's dad might be alive somewhere on the island and that Copper or that if someone dies they can only come back to life once so Collen died already so she couldn't come back.
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