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Karri...

I am so happy the season has started ...YET I have to say what a starter!!!! I have to love it!

Me TOOOOOO!!!!

It was a good episode - not great - the beginning was a bit awkward and didn't get it's rhythm right away. But once we jumped into Hurley's FF it began to gather momentum.

But WOOHOO!!! It's LOST TIME again!!!

Definitely a great premiere.

SO many questions have been set up for the season!

So worth the wait. What a great premiere. I'm so happy Lost is back!

AMAZING EPISODE. I am so glad that I wasn't spoiled. Faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaantastic! :jump1:
It really had EVERYTHING I was looking for in it.

LOVED it! Great season opener....lots of things to ponder over this week.

Great. One of the best starts to a season yet.

Just awesome!!! Still as its great momentum as the end of season 3 did!!! And also very intreguing mysteries in the FF!!! Great start of the season!!!

FANTASTIC!!!! Vintage LOST, and mind-blowing from the very beginning. WOO HOO!! Too many thoughts right now to even form coherent sentences.

It's always nice to see all the Losties on a single episode of Lost. The show zoomed by--I wonder if Lost has changed gears now that TPTB know that only a finite number of episodes remain. Good to see Charlie again, but his appearance signaled a whole new realm of questions and theories. Much to both admire and think about in this episode. A worthy season premiere.

Really Good Premiere Lots of stuff to think about and question

Great episode!! I only wish that they wouldn't of left us in sort of the same way they left us at the end of S3. With only 8 episodes this season, I wanted to get a little more. But Great nonetheless.
8/10

The true joy of it all is simply this:

LOST is back big time and there is no possible way I could not love every second of it.

LOST is a wild ride... BRAVO to all involved in making such a fine show for us!! :biggrin:

Thank you!

An absolutely terrific episode and I agree that it was agreat way to open the new season. It is like the clam before the storm, I can't wait to see what the next few episode hold. Jorge Garcia was fantastic, I loved the interaction between Hurley and Claire epsecially... it was ver sad when he told her Charlie was dead. I was so happy to see Charlie back and I loved his line "I am dead and I am here".. then "thwap" he smacked Hurley. lol. If this is any indication of what is to come this will eb a terrific season. :)

Great start! I love how everything that happens on the island is foreshadowed as bad by future-Hurley. Totally set up the season perfectly.

Loved it. I posted most of my reasons in the rated it section, so I won't repeat. I think it has set up the season for the upcoming stories and introduced questions that won't necessarily drive me crazy if they answers don't come for another couple months.

The only negative is that we may only get eight. Crossing my fingers that the rumors I'm hearing about the strike ending soon is true. I want 16!!!

Thank God Lost is back!

Loved it. It was for sure worth the anticipation building up for months.

The only negative is that we may only get eight. Crossing my fingers that the rumors I'm hearing about the strike ending soon is true. I want 16!!!

Thank God Lost is back!

Same here!

Very nice opening for a season!:biggrin:

Loved it!

First off, big kudos to Jorge Garcia who I thought did an excellent job with a wide range of material. Another congrats to Damon and Carlton for a tightly-written mindbender of a script. "Oceanic 6" even before the credits? Whoa! :eek2:

What a twist to see Jack looking pulled together and determined never to go back after seeing him such a complete mess and totally obsessed with going back as of last season's finale. How on earth did he get from point A (tonight) to point B (last season's finale FF)?

Loved the opening sequence with Hurley's classic Camarro. Loved Jacob's cabin with Christian in his white running shoes and the mysterious brown eye (so not Locke, who has lovely green eyes). Loved not-quite-sincerely-dead Naomi not ratting them out... maybe. Loved the Skate angst. Oh noze! They're on different teams! Ha. They always end up back together somehow, like magnets. :biggrin:

Actually, I loved every character in this episode. I was very glad the story gave Charlie's death its due, and it was an unexpected treat to see one more great little friendship scene between Charlie and Hurley at the sanitarium. I'll miss Charlie so I'm really, really hoping we'll see more of Dead-But-Here Future-Charlie. (Please?)

Enjoyed watching Sawyer's better angels get an inning in with his sincere concern and attentiveness toward Hurley. Also enjoyed watching him lean on his shovel drinking beer while Juliet did the digging this time. That was a perfect little Sawyer moment because he would so do that.

Hurley's emotional breakdown with Claire got me crying. Ditto his speech about following his friend's caution about the freighter people. Hurley totally owned me through the whole episode, actually.

Was amused by Kate's little con on Jack to get the phone and go do her thing. Go independent Kate!

Every line of Ben's was pure gold, but watching him rag on Jack for following the wrong trail, not listening to Kate, and getting his phone stolen was the best. A close second was his, "With your permission, Jack, I'd like to go with John." Say what? Didn't he just shoot John and leave him for dead in a pit full or rotting corpses? I guess he REALLY doesn't want to be around when these people from the freighter arrive.

Naughty Jack crossed the line and shot Locke. Whoa. That puts some real tarnish on the hero. Let's see where that road leads him.

Nice little scene between Kate and Jack at the cockpit at the end, remembering that first expedition to the cockpit "100 years ago". I know how you feel, buddy.

Most of all, I love that there will be another brand new epsode next week - can't wait!!!! :biggrin:

The first five minutes didn't have the big fake out and reveal it had the last two years but it was great nevertheless. The episode was so fast paced it seemed to last longer than an hour. Loved that it was a Hurley episode too.

I loved the last two seasons (particularly the stuff with the Others) but I have to admit this episode had a "back to the first season" vibe to it. It sort of felt like you were coming home to the "old Lost", if that makes any sense. Tonight was like when we saw Hurley's first flashback. It had the same excitement.

I want to post something about it in the discussion thread but so much happened I just don't know where to begin .

Great Episode! Am stoked for this season :biggrin: It set up everything beautifully and incorporated the Flash-Forwards in well.

Thank Jacob for new TV - give the writers whatever they want so we can get more episodes like this!

This was a great start to the season. I wrote more in the rate the episode thread so I won't say much. I will say that they have raised a lot of questions, but all intriguing ones I can't wait to find out the answers to. LOST if FINALLY back!!!!....What a GREAT feeling!!!!!!

Awesome episode. Touching, freaky, messed up.

It really feels like the producers stepped it up , and it feels like i'm watching an entirely different show.

I still can't believe they showed jacobs cabin so early in the season. I thought for sure we wouldn't see this until later on in the season.

The Writers, Producers, Actors, everybody stepped it up a notch tonight for sure.

I think the reason for the no big huge fake out reveal at the start of this one, was that the season finale one was big enough to be a) the season finale and b) the start of this season for that kind of thing. but it gave us a glimpse of what TTLG Jack will be like. which was really cool.

and he was thinking about growing a beard? Hmm...that's odd. Does the beard not have anything to relate with how messed up he is in TTLG then? How much time is between Hurley's flashforward and Jack's? I wonder.

BUT OMG charlie was so HOT. I was dying. hotter then sawyer even and that is saying something. people probably won't agree with me but still *fans self*
*is so going to make Charlie icons*

still the whole thing with jacob/CS thing was really awesome :D
and that to me made the episode rate so much higher on the shock factor

that was a great episode! :)
im so happy that lost is back :biggrin:

It was my least favorite Lost premiere yet. But I loved the hell out of it. Very well done.

P.S. I loved the little scene between Claire and Sun, with Rose joining in. That's how women interact, and IMHO little scenes like that add a much needed feminine presence to the overall feel of the show.

Didn't catch the message written on Charlie's hand in the police station on the first pass. Very cool... also congrats on making Detective, Big Mike. Nice piece of continuity there.

BUT OMG charlie was so HOT. I was dying. hotter then sawyer even and that is saying something. people probably won't agree with me but still *fans self*
*is so going to make Charlie icons*

*raises hand* I agree! More Charlie please!! I want to Claire to see him and Desmond and Jack and..... Can we just have a spinoff show where Charlie visits everyone? That was the hottest piece of dead-but-also-here I have ever seen. MORE CHARLIE!

Great eppy. Dom and Jorge were great. Nice to see Cudlitz again.

I want to see more of Lance Reddick. That was creepy stuff.

Aaaah, feels so good to be back in good old "Loved it!!!!" again, a very familiar place to be!!!!!!! It's been 8 long months since I loved anything on television. "The Beginning of the End" was powerful.

First of all, how great is Jorge Garcia and how much do we LOVE him? (Answer Key: Very and very!) He has this way of moving me to the brink of tears with a line or a facial expression, then in the next moment he makes me laugh. Jorge, you are so authentic and honest in your acting, I LOVE it and you!

Where to start with this episode? Geez, I'm not even awake yet, but let's just riff:

1. Jorge rocked, as I've already covered.

2. It seems that Jacob's cabin was some sort of vision to Hurley, as it kept appearing then disappearing, then appearing in another spot, yet that was the "real" cabin, i.e., the cabin that Ben took Locke to previously, and Hurley has never been there before, so it couldn't have been "all in his head", ala Dave. It had to be that he really saw and went into the cabin, but then in his fear and grief over everything going on, he just got disoriented and confused about where it was ...right? Or am I the one disoriented and confused *lol*?

3. As a Locke fan, I am bummed that Locke chose to shoot Naomi. I know, I know, he felt he was doing "what he had to" to protect everyone. The greater good and all that. But wasn't there some other way to stop her phoning her people than to FATALLY wound her? I mean, shoot the phone out of her hands, shoot her leg, SOMETHING. I have my theory as to who Naomi's people are, but I'm not at all sure that she is a bad person or even knows the real agenda of the people paying her salary. Even if she does, though, to KILL her when it seems to me there were other choices that could have accomplished the phone being wrested from her hands, that really upsets me as a Locke fan. I feel kinda like I did when Michael killed Ana and Libby. I understand some things about it, yet I feel it was just a tad over the ethical top. This is going to set back Locke's karma a bit, me fears.

4. Loved when Hurley breaks into an intense convo about warning everyone re "Not Penny's boat" and insists someone answer the question "Where's Charlie?!!!!" There was so much concern in how he delivered that line, it was heartbreaking.

Much more to say on this brilliant episode. It was manna to a starving LOST fan after eight long months of nothingness.

Awesome. Loved it!

edited to add: forgot to say: Interesting that Hurley said he did not know Ana Lucia. There could be many possible reasons for this (this is LOST afterall!), but for some reason I kept wondering if he was trying to protect Michael, because had he said, yeah, I knew Ana, then the cop would have asked him a ton of questions and it might have come out that Michael shot Ana and Libby. Anyway...thought that whole thing was interesting.

BTW, Dezdemona, I just read your first post in this thread and it is GREAT. I, too, was shocked when Jack actually pulled the trigger! But--and I say this as a mega-Locke fan--I actually understand his reasoning for shooting Locke at that moment more than I understand Locke's reasoning for shooting Naomi. Jack really thinks at that moment that Locke has gone 'round the bend in a very dangerous way that could result in him (Locke) feeling that he is obliged to kill anyone at any time. Jack really felt he was protecting the group by shooting Locke. I know, I know, that's what Locke felt when he shot Naomi, but really he didn't have much reason to think he had to fatally wound her...or did he? Maybe later we will learn more of what Locke's visions were after Walt appeared to him but before he got to Naomi. Maybe there is stuff we still don't know about his reasoning. I sure hope so.

Loved seeing beat-up-Ben, I hope he remains a prisoner again for a while, or at least is in as many episodes as possible. I want to see what John does with him! John doesn't seem too angry about being shot by him yet, hopefully Ben gets more beatings and a bald headbutt, booyah.

Oh, AND I loved when Ben implored Danielle to take Alex and get as far into the deep jungle and away from any possible encounter with the peeps coming to the island as possible. That showed us, the audience, that Ben truly does believe that these people are going to attempt to kill every living person on the island, and that wasn't just yet another thing he said to manipulate people into doing what he wanted. No, he is scared strawberryless. I love how Michael Emerson plays Ben in this amazing way in which, the more scared and out of control Ben feels, the calmer his voice and manner gets, yet somehow we can feel all the emotion under the surface. Awesome actor. I think we have had several Emmy Alerts already and we are only an hour into this season. Wow.

BTW, Dezdemona, I just read your first post in this thread and it is GREAT. I, too, was shocked when Jack actually pulled the trigger! But--and I say this as a mega-Locke fan--I actually understand his reasoning for shooting Locke at that moment more than I understand Locke's reasoning for shooting Naomi. Jack really thinks at that moment that Locke has gone 'round the bend in a very dangerous way that could result in him (Locke) feeling that he is obliged to kill anyone at any time. Jack really felt he was protecting the group by shooting Locke. I know, I know, that's what Locke felt when he shot Naomi, but really he didn't have much reason to think he had to fatally wound her...or did he? Maybe later we will learn more of what Locke's visions were after Walt appeared to him but before he got to Naomi. Maybe there is stuff we still don't know about his reasoning. I sure hope so.

I'm going to have to disagree with you here about the parallel between Locke killing Naomi and Jack shooting Locke. First of all, I'm not justifying Locke. That said, I think that his situation and Jack's were materially different in some important ways. From his POV, John believed that contacting the freighter would bring death and destruction to the Losties, and when he sent that knife flying, Naomi was but a second or two from talking to the people back on the boat. OTOH, though it's very true that from Jack's POV Locke had endangered the group's chances of being rescued, the risk of him doing so again at that moment was zero. Jack was holding him at gunpoint and could simply have had Locke tied up for the remaining hours till the freighter crew arrived. Shooting him was not about preventing Locke from interfering again, it was about something else. We can debate what the something else was - from "He snapped, and no wonder after the insane-making experiences they've had," to "It was a cold and revenge-driven attempted murder." There are a lot of other possible explanations in between those, I imagine, but preventing John from interfering any further in their being rescued is simply not on the table IMO.

Can I just say that I preferred the futureflash to the island story for the first time? I sense a sea change here, and that is that the island story is the new flashback and not only in a temporal sense, but in a story telling sense -- boring, repetitive filler -- more guns, more fights, more jungle, bleh. It seems to me that the real story from here on out will be told off island and whereas I used to get bored sitting through every character's repetitive flashback, I now will look forward to the flashforwards as the best part of the show. With Charlie gone on the island, I have zero interest in that place. I'm glad he's showing up in the future because it's the coolest place to be.

Good points, Dezdemona. I do disagree about one thing, though: Jack very well could have perceived Locke as a threat to everyone, even though at that moment he had him at gunpoint. But had he let him go, Locke as we all know and love (or, I do, anyway) is a very independent-minded, strongwilled person and from Jack's point of view at that moment, God only knows what the man will do next. When someone is "faith-driven" and feels they are receiving messages or visions or have a destiny to do something, there is no "reasoning" with them (again, I'm attempting to speak from Jack's perspective here). And in the situation they were in, there was no way to put Locke in any kind of containment area, as they were able to do with Ben when he was going by Henry Gale, ya know? I mean, Jack probably felt like, I don't want to do this, but I have to in order to stop this wingnut from deciding he needs to kill various and sundry people for no apparent reason.

Was he right to do so? I don't think so, especially since he had Ben tied up as a prisoner and was dragging him around, so why not give Locke at least the same courtesy? Ben has certainly done far, FAR worse things than Locke and is more dangerous. Why let him live and shoot Locke, if the only reasons are the ones I outline? No, it must be as you said, there were other reasons in Jack's head and/or emotions that factored into the trigger pulling.

IMHO, both Jack and Locke were wrong to do what they did.

The only LOSTIE I have cheered for pulling a trigger recently is Sawyer, when he killed Tom. When Hurley said, dude, why'd you do that, he surrendered? Sawyer said "I didn't believe him." Right on, Sawyer, neither did I. Tom had done way too many highly violent and dangerous things.

"You and me ain't done, Zeke".

Amazing episode as any season premiere, but I was actually surprised to see that it was Hurley that we would be following.

The flash-forwards are killers... you dont really get it to add up with the one we saw in the season finale - and what the hell is Hurley gonna tell, and who? It wants them back - I assume he means the Island, how come Jacks never come back when he flew all those times. Wow theres just too much to consume right now... this will take at least a week to digest.

:blink:

I still need to re-watch it. But on first viewing, I loved it. A good mix of on and off island stuff.
Plus I love Lance reddick as an actor, and he was creepy in a good way when he encountered Hurley in the mental hospital

Good points, Dezdemona. I do disagree about one thing, though: Jack very well could have perceived Locke as a threat to everyone, even though at that moment he had him at gunpoint. But had he let him go, Locke as we all know and love (or, I do, anyway) is a very independent-minded, strongwilled person and from Jack's point of view at that moment, God only knows what the man will do next. When someone is "faith-driven" and feels they are receiving messages or visions or have a destiny to do something, there is no "reasoning" with them (again, I'm attempting to speak from Jack's perspective here). And in the situation they were in, there was no way to put Locke in any kind of containment area, as they were able to do with Ben when he was going by Henry Gale, ya know? I mean, Jack probably felt like, I don't want to do this, but I have to in order to stop this wingnut from deciding he needs to kill various and sundry people for no apparent reason.

Was he right to do so? I don't think so, especially since he had Ben tied up as a prisoner and was dragging him around, so why not give Locke at least the same courtesy? Ben has certainly done far, FAR worse things than Locke and is more dangerous. Why let him live and shoot Locke, if the only reasons are the ones I outline? No, it must be as you said, there were other reasons in Jack's head and/or emotions that factored into the trigger pulling.

IMHO, both Jack and Locke were wrong to do what they did.

The only LOSTIE I have cheered for pulling a trigger recently is Sawyer, when he killed Tom. When Hurley said, dude, why'd you do that, he surrendered? Sawyer said "I didn't believe him." Right on, Sawyer, neither did I. Tom had done way too many highly violent and dangerous things.

"You and me ain't done, Zeke".

"Containment area" not an issue with rescue merely hours away. They had Ben on what looked like a 20 foot leash there. They could simply have cut the rope and tied both Ben and Locke to a tree till rescue arrived.

Now if you come back and tell me nobody had a knife to cut the rope, I'm going to know you're just not trying hard enough. ;)

Even if she does, though, to KILL her when it seems to me there were other choices that could have accomplished the phone being wrested from her hands, that really upsets me as a Locke fan. I feel kinda like I did when Michael killed Ana and Libby. I understand some things about it, yet I feel it was just a tad over the ethical top.

You haven't figured it out by now? ;) There is no place for supporting female roles on 'Lost'. Everytime they introduce a new female character on the show- she will get killed off. Well, except for Juliet that is. This is the one thing that frustrates me about this show. They didn't need to kill off Naomi (unless Marsha has no interest at all on staying on the show?). She could have brought much more to the table.

LOST is back and how! I absolutely loved this episode, and I simply cannot wait for next week's one.

Take care,

You haven't figured it out by now? ;) There is no place for supporting female roles on 'Lost'. Everytime they introduce a new female character on the show- she will get killed off. Well, except for Juliet that is. This is the one thing that frustrates me about this show. They didn't need to kill off Naomi (unless Marsha has no interest at all on staying on the show?). She could have brought much more to the table.

"Containment area" not an issue with rescue merely hours away. They had Ben on what looked like a 20 foot leash there. They could simply have cut the rope and tied both Ben and Locke to a tree till rescue arrived.

Now if you come back and tell me nobody had a knife to cut the rope, I'm going to know you're just not trying hard enough. ;)


Remember this is the LOVED IT thread. These posts don't really belong here. If you wish to discuss what you are feel are shortcomings for the ep, please remember to keep them to one of the pro/con threads.

Originally Posted by Dezdemona http://thefuselage.com/Threaded/images/FuselageGreen/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?p=1735744#post1735744)
"Containment area" not an issue with rescue merely hours away. They had Ben on what looked like a 20 foot leash there. They could simply have cut the rope and tied both Ben and Locke to a tree till rescue arrived.

Now if you come back and tell me nobody had a knife to cut the rope, I'm going to know you're just not trying hard enough. ;)


Remember this is the LOVED IT thread. These posts don't really belong here. If you wish to discuss what you are feel are shortcomings for the ep, please remember to keep them to one of the pro/con threads.

Just for clarification, my comment was in no way a complaint. I gave the episode a 10 and posted a rave review earlier in this thread. That comment was part of a little kibbitzing session with LostLockefan, that we should probably have moved to another thread after the second exchange. Will do so from here on, but I just wanted you to know it wasn't a complaint about the episode at all because I thought it totally rocked! :biggrin:

edited to add: forgot to say: Interesting that Hurley said he did not know Ana Lucia. There could be many possible reasons for this (this is LOST afterall!), but for some reason I kept wondering if he was trying to protect Michael, because had he said, yeah, I knew Ana, then the cop would have asked him a ton of questions and it might have come out that Michael shot Ana and Libby. Anyway...thought that whole thing was interesting.



I'm pretty sure that this has to do with the "lie" that they had to tell in order to get back the real world. We had two people (Abbadon and Jack) coming to Hurley trying to find out if he was going to spill the beans (although it seemed for completely different reasons, Jack to keep it a secret, Abbadon trying to get the info). It sure seems that part of this lie is that everyone else died in the crash, so Hurley can't be telling Big Mike that he knew Ana.

I thought it was a really great seaon opener! :)

I confess that I'm usually a little let down by Lost season Premieres. It's not that I haven't enjoyed them it's just that a season finale moves very quickly...the tension has been building up all season and it explodes in the season finale...we get lots of new information and it ends on an exciting cliffhanger. But a season premiere is generally much slower paced. You wait all summer for a new episode and then it kind of starts with a whimper. It has to set up new tension that will simmer all season before again exploding in the season finale. So I've found that sometimes the anticipation for a season opener is more exciting than the actual episode.

But in this case I said "WHAT????" a whole whack of times...and there was a nice amount of new information thrown out there...I felt the pace was picked up quite a bit. It was just one of those episodes that lived up to the hype!!!

I think the biggest thing I gasped at was "Oceanic Six"...I couldn't stop gaping...it was just so shocking b/c does that mean on 6 get off...what happens to the rest...it's small but it made me desperate to know what happens ;)

Gotta say I loved it.

Loved it! I dont remember an episode with so many twists and turns!

It was simply brilliant from top to bottom, and thoroughly lived up to all of the hype and months of anticipation. There were so many eye-popping moments that my head was spinning! The flash forwards are a near genius plot device, and I think I see where TPTB are going with them now. I bet we will keep seeing flash forwards that precede what we've previously seen. They will continue to be intercut with the "real time" arc of the show, jumping back and forth in the timeline now principally among the characters who make up "The Oceanic 6." Over the course of the next 2 seasons, the ends of the timeline will slowly grow together. This will allow the viewers to piece together the bits of the puzzle from both ends of the timeline. It's an absolutely brilliant plot device! I loved the episode, and I love the possibilities of where it's all going. I think we we're in for a pretty amazing ride now!

I loved the show. I lost track of my sense of time (I wonder why...) and thought the show was over about 40 minutes in and it just kept going. I loved Hurley in the show, and while a friend hated his grief scene, I thought it was excellent. A different Hurley in this episode. Grimmer. Darker. This show (and the series in general) is just so deep and so richly textured. Nothing like it on now and maybe every on TV. LOST is a deep deep well that we can dive as deeply into as we wish. I think it makes more people speculate on the fate, destiny and all things paranormal and metaphysical that most religions and philosophies.

Loved it. Just loved it. I'll be so bummed after the 8th show. Anyone think we'll get more if the stike ends soon. I'd hate to wait until next February for new shows.

Bravo to the whole team.

I really felt this episode. The whole Charlie thing made the episode even more sad than Hurley going back to the mental institute. I mean, Hurley seeing his dead friend all around.

yaaaaaa baby what a great start to the season 10/10 from me
i loved everything about,
even the musical score tonight was great as always

I was quite pleasantly surprised by just HOW much I loved the flashforward. It was my favorite part of the episode from beginning to end and now it's clear why actors and writers alike are excited about opening up the story this way.

I love Hurley, but I couldn't have handled another flashback. This was perfect and it gave Jorge so much to work with. Excellent.

I loved how they used Ana Lucia's partner as a sort of spokesperson for all the relatives who don't know what happened to their loved ones and I was really surprised and touched that it wasn't just a visual cameo but someone who cared for Ana talked about her that way. Bravo.

Loved it! So many surprises! Can't wait for next week!

amazing episode!!!! it was really scary though...especially the sequence where Hurley looks into Jacob's cabin and see's Locke's eye. i screamed!:o

I really loved it as well, I couldn't say a bad word about it, excellent from start to finish and I can't wait too see more.

My favorite scenes

- Desmond arrives on the beach and Hurley shouting "Where's Charlie" Jorge did a terrific job in this episode, his grief for Charlie was very well written and acted.
- Sawyer being concerned for Hurley and asking if he wanted to talk
- Hurley meeting Ana Lucia's partner, I thought he looked familar! :) I think Hurley and the other 5 of the 6 haven't told anyone about what happened on the island.
- Hurley finding Jacob's cabin
- The losties reunion, I thought we'd have to wait a while to see that, and Hurley's speech about listening to his friend
- "With your permission Jack I'd like to go with John"
- Hurley and Charlie! I was so surprised and happy to see him, I'm not sure if Hurley was imagining him but it was funny when he slapped him though!
- Jack visiting Hurley and playing basketball

The episode was so awesome...I don't know what else to say! I LOVE LOST!

Dude, so me and this random dude at a store started talking about last night's episode and we both liked it a lot! The flash-forwards were cool in a Memento sort of way and my brain was buzzing with loads of questions. I'm gonna be SO hooked on Thursday nights now!

(and hope you dudes don't mind me talking Hurley-style ... SO cool that this epi focused on him too)

Yeah, this episode was terrific and a great way to start the new season. I love all the tension in the group, and the clear divide, Jack vs. Locke essentially as Locke steps forward as a leader (again). They really did 'hit the ground running' this season and I love it.

I'm blown away by Jack and his trigger finger. As Dezdemona said, it will be interesting to see his journey. It seems like he's crumbling. Poor guy. He tries so hard but needs to think a little more sometimes and it's never been more apparent than now. Seems he's crumbling, little by little.

Anyways, great premiere, especially now that I've thought about it a bunch. S4 is going to be intense! :biggrin: Woohoo, LOST is back!

"There's no place like LOST!!" Glad to be back!:clapping:

It's so good to have this show back on the air. There really is nothing like it on television right now; the only show that comes the closest to hitting the same heights is "Supernatural". So of course they're now scheduled against one another.

Lost 4.1: The Beginning of the End (http://entil2001.com/series/lost/season4/lost4-1.html)

Overall, this was a very good start to the season. The current flash-forward serves as a good reminder of what happened in the third season finale, while adding vital clues to the future status quo. It also manages to establish a new status quo in the “present”, which helps to push worthy characters into a more prominent role. While questions clearly remain, this is as good a starting point for the long march towards answers.

We're all so giddy, it's great. And soooo many details to dissect over the next week.

I completely underestimated how much the flash-forward mechanism would bring to the show. For the first time, I found the off-island scenes more interesting than the on-island action, and that's saying a lot. I also love the fact that a flash-forward allows more than one main character to be developed.

The highlights for me:

- When Hurley screamed, "I’m one of the Oceanic 6!" I almost came unglued.

- When Mr. Abdell suddenly asked Hurley, "Are they still alive?". The implications of that question made me incredibly sad for both the 6 and those who were left behind.

- CHRISTIAN SHEPARD IN JACOB’S SHACK!!!!! WTF?!!!!

- The reaction to Charlie's death: Sayid's face when he heard the news; Hurley sobbing into Claire's arms; Locke's expression as he watched them. Totlaly heart-wrenching.

- CHARLIE!!!! I've never squealed before, but I came close when I saw his face. I've never considered Charlie one of my faves, but it was soooo great to see him. By far the best part of the episode for me.

Loved the Opening Scene!!! I'm so glad I wasn't spoiled, if I had been it just wouldn't have been as enjoyable. The Flash Forward was definitely the best part of the episode to me, and I'm not a huge Hurley fan, but the Flash Forward was so good, with Charlie coming back and even some of the "FIND815" clues being introduced.

With how Sawyer was treating Hurley in regards to Charlie, he just continues to grow as one of my favorite characters. He was the only one who tried to comfort Hurley, even calling him Hugo.

When Ana Lucia's partner asked Hurley about her and Hurley said he never met her, or didn't know her, I looked at my wife and told her "I told you they had to lie!" ever since Jack said "I'm sick of lying" in TTLG I had been saying to get off the island they had to follow some cover story. Then when Hurley says to Jack after H-O-R-S-E, about making sure he didn't "Tell", that sealed it for me.

Great episode overall, and if they keep these FFs coming it will just get better!

Thank the heavens Lost is back!
I thought the Flashforwards were great. I about died when I saw Charlie because I didn't
even have a clue.

Uh Oh My one month old is having fits. Gotta go.

But yeah I loved the episode.

It was good, Hurley is a whacko but still my hero, proving you can be nutz and still do the right thing. Ben had so many great one liners, was Shecky Greene writing for him?
jack, with your permission... what can top that as the funniest Lost line evah, also Ben still has a crush on Locke even if he did shoot him, hey, love hurts-right?

More than loved it. I'm in love with it.

I'm loving the flash forwards and I'm just so bloody happy it's back.:biggrin:

The latest flashforwards set up their own new story arc within the main story. I can't not be excited about that. Jack's now on a journey from where we've seen him in TBOTE to TTLG - becoming persuaded that they shoul go back. Fantastic episode.

I loved the BOTE episode!!!

There were a lot of factoids revealed, as well as interesting character developments.

It was a pretty good episode. A lot of new questions and misteries to be solved but all the acting and plot was great.

Love Kate acting by herself and doing what she wants and how she wants it. That's our independent and stubborn Kate from season 1. *yay*

LOST is my favorite hour of television every week that it is on. the writers, creators, actors etc are so brilliant at story telling it thills me through & through just watching where the story will take me each week.
My anticipation & expectations were so high I was afraid I might be dissappointed...but I was thouroughly satisfied. These guys are so good with weaving the many varied & colorful threads that create the tapestry of LOST that I am very nearly always joyfully pleased with the show.
Wonderfully unique, entertaining Television. Soo refreshing.

LOST is such good exercise for my brain!
Even if I don't have a clue about what's going on in a particular scene my mind loves trying to figure it out...I know it sounds weird but I think my brain was excited LOST was back on too!
As if IT missed the mind games LOST puts us through....it felt like my brain woke up & jumped back into the game.
LOST also gives my emotions a good work-out! Lots of different emotions and often at surprising times. I never know when I'll be shocked or amazed or scared. Or when I'll get cold chills or be creeped out or when
I'll be Laughing,crying,cringing,shouting,gasping,hiding my eyes or simply enjoying the view but then you know what I mean.
Really LOST is the most consistantly satifying Television experience I've had in a long long time (Maybe ever). Living up to my (or Our) expectations isn't easy and they are able to create an exciting ride week after week. I am so Grateful for the smart entertainment'
This Episode was jammed packed & I think the rest will be too as we move to the end of the Story
I found this episode Exciting, Mysterious, Mind-Bending, Funny, Heartbreaking (I cried a couple of times)Surprising & chocked full of little Gems.

Some (of many) Standouts this Week :

Chills & Thrills & Surprise = The visit to Jacobs House (I never dreamed we'd return so soon) and the way the house seemed to find Hurley instead of the other way around Kool.
Tears = Hurley screaming "Where's Charlie?". Telling Claire. and The scene when he told Jack they screwed up & needed to go back that scene was moving to me as well.
Laughs = Ben throughout ("I guess I should've told you she took the radio ,but you beat me up"). Sawyer..... his look when hurley throws the walkie in the ocean......and when he says to Hurley...."going where?"
Creepy Goosebumps = Jacobs Visit, the "Oceanic Lawyer" scary.
Brain Teasers & Shocks = the entire future story, Charlie, Jacobs House
Warm Fuzzies = Having the whole cast in the show was great although that can be a lot to digest I loved each & every tasty morsel & relished each characters moments. Loved the group gathering at the Cockpit but was sad to see them split up again (even tho this is sure to be exciting with the two interesting groupings).
Ultimate Pleasure = Anything Sawyer Love the guy. Love when he's sensitive & Sweet & when he's Sarcastic & sour & tough & gritty & misunderstood & dirty & sweaty & sexy and well... I love Sawyer even though he was hardly in the episode but as usual Josh didn't waste a moment of screen time....I hope the Island finds someone else to beat up this season poor guy is always bloody.

BTW I don't think the FF's we're seeing are the end of the story (as Some posters seem to think) but more like the middle of the story I feel like we'll see the Oceanic 6 return to the Island I feel the story will end on the Island not off.

Anyway I LOVE LOST!!

Definitely a great premiere.

SO many questions have been set up for the season!

Truer words were never spoken. lol I just said this today. My husband and I went for a car ride and I had the Lost magazine with me to read and we started discussing the show. I said it's amazing how from one episode all ready, I am pondering so many possibilities, questions, etc. Like why did Hurley say "I shouldn't have went with Locke". What has happened that they won't discuss the island or who is still on it. Why does Hurley and eventually Jack feel compelled to go back?? So many wonderful questions that I can't wait to see answered over the next coming seasons.
100%

BUT OMG charlie was so HOT. I was dying. hotter then sawyer even and that is saying something. people probably won't agree with me but still *fans self*
*is so going to make Charlie icons*




I so agree. He looked freaking awesome with the darker, shorter hair!! WOW! Sad to say Charlie looks better after dying. lol I say bring on more of "dead" Charlie. I loved the scene between him and Hurley. Jorge did a fantastic job in this episode. It has to be my favorite Hurley-centric episode.

I thought it was absolutely wonderful. What with the switch in authority, and Danielle (possibly) travelling with the Losties, now....and the lines that Michael Emerson had (the one about firewood, and the "Jack, I think I'd like to go with John, if you don't mind.").

I never expected Hurley's life to get so completely dark, there. It was something I should have expected, but even in TTLG, part of my brain was thinking that those who got off the island...that their lives wouldn't be as bad. Looks like I'm very wrong about that.

I loved it, great opening, great twists. Also seeing the losties interacting off the island in the normal world was nice to see.

I thought it was great. Lots of tension and more mystery of course. I have to admit, I'm getting a little tired of Ben, so it's nice to see a new character has been "dropped" onto the island...to cause more tension.

Aside from the mass of things to take in from this episode, I loved it beause of its tragic dividing of the group sequence. The rain falling was a terrific moment and added weight to the sense of sadness that was etched on to so many faces.

I find it interesting that the groups have divided with a reasonably equal balance of people capable of handling themselves. Jack, Desmond, Sayid, Kate, Juliet and Jin on one side and Sawyer, Locke, Danielle, Alex (who seems pretty spirited) and possibly Ben and his people on the other. Makes me wonder if Jack's group forges an alliance with the new arrivals and their mission and Locke with the others - hence a potential quasi war situation between old friends. It might further explain Hurley's apology at the end.

What a way to open the season...loved it;)

Wow, can't believe I haven't been over this way to applaud this wonderful season premiere!

Jorge...hats off to you young man. Fantastic performance. I think I had tears standing in my eyes most of the episode.

Writers, if you're reading this thread...please showcase Rose and Bernard more often, but not another FB dedicated to them. No. Their first one was ample. But definitely more interacting with the rest of the group...Rose especially. That's the way women talk to one another. More of that...please. ;)

It was good to see Charlie. Nice haircut, Dom.

Crazy Locke or Crazy Jack? Sad to say there doesn't seem to be much difference.

Oh, Claire. *hugs*

Lance Reddick...I love you, but you scare the crap out of me! :laughing:

Naomi, I know you're a liar, liar pants on fire, but I'm going to miss your spunk and your cool accent. :D

Independent, Kate! Yay!

The Kwons...even with limited or no dialogue, how can you not love them?

Sayid, Desmond and James with big guns....that's hot!

Juliet, my girl crush...you're still lovely even covered in a film of dirt and your hair all a mess. Loved that she and Alex embraced.

Last but not least...Benry OWNS everything even being pulled along like a farm animal by Rousseau! LOL

Flawless..beautiful episode. Such an amazing performance from Jorge Garcia. The writing and direction was spot on and the mind fucks were as amazing as ever. Props to the Lost crew, writers and cast for one of thee best (if not THEE best) season openers since the Pilot. The awesome vibe of season one is BACK!! Praying for the strike to end in hopes that we can still get a FULL 16 episode season.

respect;

::M::
(In Rome, Italy.)

I'm so happy to have Lost back... Although it is a little bittersweet, knowing we only get a few episodes before we catch up with where the writers strike left our stranded characters.... well, stranded, I guess. But in the meantime I'm just going to enjoy each complex, rich, beautifully crafted and shot, and exquisitely confusing episode we get. Good lord, I love this show.

I can't tell you how jazzed I was in the 3rd season finale when I realized our parallel Jack story for the episode was a flashforward instead of our usual flashback. Genius. Seriously, JJ, you rock. Have my babies! Woo!!

No, but seriously, after three seasons of teasing out the backstory of these characters and wondering desperately if, how, and when they would get off the island, I was starting to worry that Lost would get stagnant and they'd run out of storylines, or worse--that they'd have so much detail in each flashback that they'd end up with continuity errors because they couldn't keep it all straight. Starting flashforwards with no warning or explanation was brilliant. Especially as a season finale. Now we know some survive, and we also know there is a major problem with their survival. Bad news bears, people. Plus, didn't the pharmacist refer to Jack's father in the finale flashforward? Way to drop a crazy hint and then make us wait indefinitely for the pay off! Evil genius.

So now I can't wait to see if they continue with the flashforwards in every episode. 4x01 makes me think they will. From the beginning JJ has said he doesn't want Lost to ramble on forever, with the writers inventing new ways to keep the castaways on the island season after season just to make bank off a successful show, especially if the quality ends up suffering as time goes on. He's apparently got a 6 year plan. Which means we're effectively tipping over just barely from the midpoint right now. Sounds like a fabulous time to switch from past information to future information in the parallel storylines.

I know we were supposed to think Nascar!Hurley was actually Kate, but come on, the minute his baseball-mitt-sized hand came out of the door you knew it had to be Hurley. I'm horribly glad he made it off the island and doesn't die there, though. I handled Charlie's demise alright (although drowning is my worst nightmare, so I admit I plug my ears and close my eyes during his final seconds every time), but I think I'd lose it if Hurley died. Jorge, I adore you.

And six? Only six? So based on the rest of the rest of the episode I'm assuming the six who get rescued or manage to escape or whatever are covering for more of the survivors who elected to stay on the island. So who would want to leave? We know three of them: Jack, Kate, and Hurley. We know Locke wants to stay, and I think Rose and Bernard (side note: I adore this couple) would stay. I'm on the fence about Jin and Sun, though. She'd want to get off the island in an attempt to live through her pregnancy, but would want to stay "dead" to escape her father and his organized crime ties. Then again, she might just die on the island. I can see that happening. What about Sawyer? Is he the "he" Kate was referring to in the 3rd season finale? And what about Claire and Aaron? They get off the island, I'm sure, because their storyline is going nowhere, and they've already set it up with Desmond's vision and Charlie's sacrifice. So do they count as 4 and 5? Only one spot left. What ever happened to Walt and Michael? Did they make it off the island? Sayid? Would he choose to stay, given the choice? I personally think he'll give his life protecting someone or securing rescue for the group. He seems like a character that would have a heroic death scene. And Juliette? She wasn't on Oceanic, can she be part of the six if she got rescued? Does she die? There's no way she'd elect to stay.

How crazy is Hurley, really? He was in a mental institution before he crashed on the island, and he had several hallucinations on the island. Is he crazy at all? He saw Charlie several times posthumously, but then again, seeing dead people happens more on this show than in The Sixth Sense. He "saw" Jacob, but since we don't know anything about Jacob, the fact that Hurley has "seen" him can't be put definitively in the Crazy column or Not-Crazy column.

Naomi was dying, and there was no way she was going to live... And yet with her last breaths she covered for them and made sure The Boat People could find them all. Was she a minion? Did she know what was going on and who she was working for? Was she under forced contract like Juliette, and they were holding her apart from her sister ("I'm sorry... tell my sister I love her")?

So let me get this timeline right: the six get back to civilization, and Hurley is the first to break down and start freaking out about needing to go back to the island. Jack seems like the next one to flip and figure out that the island was something special for them all. Am I the only one who thinks now that the funeral in the 3rd season finale flashforward might have been Hurley's?

Bits and Pieces:


Harold Perrineau was in the opening credits. Am I crazy, or was he not in this episode? Did I miss him? Or does this mean he's back as a series regular this year and just not in the season premiere?
Did anyone else expect to see flashes of Libby at Hurley's new mental hospital? I wish we'd seen more of her backstory. She looked interesting. And Hurley deserved some play.
I like the mention of Ana Lucia, as well as the nice continuity of having her partner arrest Hurley for the high speed chase.
I love that Ben was so worried for Alex. Just when you think he's an unredeemable bastard, he says something that shows he's a daddy that cares for his little girl, and it makes it just a little hard to continue hating him. Speaking of Alex, I love the casting.
Silly little thing: I don't think it gets too much more adorable than Hurley running on the beach and cannonballing into the water.
Funny Ben line: "Better call the boat... tell them she's getting a really big bundle of firewood..."
What was Locke doing back at Jacob's cabin? Talking to Jacob some more? Without Ben this time?
Acting misstep: I can usually count on Jorge for top-notch delivery of his lines, but the sorrowful "Charlie's dead" came off forced and almost kinda funny. His first "he's dead" was fine--was perfect--but the follow-up was way off.
I love that when everyone started siding with Locke and agreeing to stay on the island Rose adamantly refused to leave Jack. Her delivery was wonderful, her facial expression and body language were perfect: "You said you'd never leave the island... If you, uh, if you want to go with Locke, I'll be right behind you." "I'm not going anywhere with that man."
I love Charlie with short hair. Dominic is such a cutie in his final scene here. And the slap was perfection. Now, the big question: what does Charlie want Hurley to do? "They need you, Hugo!" Who?? Need you to do what??
I'm excited about next week: Ken Leung is one of The Boat People! (Kid Omega in X-Men 3... He was also in Inside Man.)
And who'da thought Ben would turn out to be the one with all the funny lines in this episode? "Jack, with your permission, I'd like to go with John."
Cute: Jack telling Hurley he's thinking of growing a beard, and Hurley telling him he'd look weird. True to form, Hurley's right and no-one pays heed.
Another foreshadowy gem from the HORSE scene was Hurley's apology for not sticking with Jack and going with Locke instead. Uh oh. What happens?Until next episode, peoples, or else check out my profile and my website for more of my reviews!

GoldenGait

Loved it! I was so stoked to see everyone back together again, even if it only lasted for five minutes.

Loved it! Im excited to see whats next. Can't wait for Thursday nite.

Great epi. From the first scene I'm like, what?!. Fruit? What's goin on? and when the eye peaked out of the window, I almost wet my pants. To me, this is the best Hurleycentric epi so far. (BTW, it was nice to see Charlie again too).

The only thing I didn't like was Hurely at the end crying during his speach. Otherwise it was great.

I thought this was a wonderful start to the season. I LOVED that it was a Hurley-centric flashforward, loved all the recognition given to Charlie's death (so many sad moments), loved the dead-but-real Charlie and Hurley scene...my jaw dropped at all the stuff going on at the island, too, like the split between the Jack and Locke camps. You know Locke has gone off the deep end when even Rose, a huge believer in what the island can do, turns on him. I liked the ensemble...even people who didn't get much like Sun and Jin had some great bits and great acting (as usual).

LOST is the best serial show since the early days of TV when superheros and cowboys would end up in cliff-hangers just like LOST characters do every week. They keep us guessing and I am SO pleased with the start of this season.

Great job Darlton and crew - all the writers, actors and staff who work so hard to fill our appetite for one excellent produced mini-movie.

Keep 'em Rollin'

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Loved every second!

Great start to a new season!

I guess I cannot rate the episode since I am new here, but I would have given it a 10 for sure. Excellent premiere!

Amazing!!!!! Loved it!!!!
Abbaddon guy really creepy, huh....
Loved the Jacob Cabin and Hurley and Christian Sheppard in that chair!
The Charlie part was unbelieveable....I loved it!

I loved it and I'm so glad that Hurley kicked off the season. I was expecting Jack - centric, so the episode was a great surprise.

We got answers about the "6", the city reflection, and the FF in S3 finale: answers in Lost style - the kind that bring more questions. . . . :rolleyes:

The only reason I tuned in for the pilot ep in 2004 was to see Dom. After that first brilliant ep, I was hooked. In the first season, when Charlie was hung in a tree - I was so mad that he'd be killed off that I was willing to quit Lost. But Charlie survived and I remained a fan.
Now, I'm too involved with the Island and other characters to quit over Charlie. But I must say: It was good to see Charlie again.

I love this season!!

What a way to start, it feels like the show I loved in season one. More of it. Hurley's perspective gave the show its heart back.

Well... Do you know what I miss most in the beginning of this season? A hit song! ...LOL
The second and third started with great old songs and really made up the scene ( 'Make your kind off on music' it's just a perfect song for everything ... good start .. i mean, almost everything ... in some cases Berry White is perfect..LOL)
i feel really sorry for Charlie's dead... I liked that 'crazy monkey fella guy dude' (wow...LOL) Mabe in the season 5 we have a new old mom song...LOL...
Tks and Namastê...
Mhalo