What did you think? Rate it and then discuss the good and the bad. :)

Fantastic episode. I will be really surprised to read negative thoughts about the show. But I'll certainly be interested in what those people have to nitpick on.

The episode moved forward VERY quickly. This was not a stagnant episode. Hurley-centric with Jack? AWESOME.

I was very pleased with the season premeire! Had everything I wanted to see, and had me going through lots of emotion. I can't wait to rewatch it and discuss some things....

I gave it a nine. It didn't have the "amazing opener" that LOST usually has, but so what! That really didn't bother me at all because it blew away last season's pilot episode. I enjoyed it a lot.

WOW, 'nuff said

Ok. Nothing earth moving. Yawn.

I luved it. I only gave it a 9 but that was for a slow start and for making me wait so long. It was great to see Charlie "dead and well" but I'm still digesting that part.

The attorney for Oceanic gave me the creeps.

I loved this episode. So many new and crazy things to drive us fans just as crazy. That's what it's all about for me.

EXCELLENT!!! I think it would be interesting to here someone that totally hates this because there were allot of interesting things going on in the episode!!!

We are in for a treat if the rest of the LOST episodes can stay at this high level.....I love the new flash forward scenes. They were well made and put a new spin on the mystery that makes LOST so great.

Well done cast & crew!

The attorney for Oceanic gave me the creeps.He wasn't really their attorney. He was an imposter.

I would've given this episode a better rating if it had been 2 hours. It was great but I don't think we learned a lot of new stuff. (Or maybe I'm just over-spoiled...)

My favorite 2 parts was Sayid's reaction to Charlie's death and Ben cringing from Danielle when they were alone in the woods with Jack. ;)

I thought it was amazing. If perhaps that perception is made a bit overdramatic due to the long wait, well I can live with that.

Best parts, upon initial viewing:
-Emotional reactions to Charlie's death, especially by Claire
-Cool FFs with major new mystery and scary dude
-Drama around the camp division
-Jack trying to kill Locke
-A little Skate angst

Kudos to the whole Lost team.

I felt it was more of a setup for the remainder of the season more than anything else. Twas good, and don't get me wrong, there were some good moments, but it was lacking something I really cannot put my finger on right at this moment. I think I need to watch it again.

An excellent episode. As someone else said, it didn't start with a huge "BANG" like the Desmond reveal or the Barracks scene, but it moved along at a great clip, dropped plenty of hints on us and had excitement and tension. I gave it a 9.

Absolutely excellent episode. It set things up nicely for the season while, at the same time, dealing with Charlie's death and the ripples that caused. I thought Jorge was at his absolute best! Him finding the cabin and seeing Christian would have blown Ben's mind if he had known about it. ;) He was also more assertive than we've seen him be in a long, long time and I think that maybe warrior Hurley may be emerging. I sure hope so.
It broke my heart to see Hurley in such a state. His conversation with Charlie made me cry almost as much as the scene where Hurley tells Clare about Charlie.
Jack was in fine leadership mode. He may be doing the wrong thing but he's trying to whatever he can to get these people home as best he can.
Kate didn't irritate me. She was useful and didn't play games with either James or Jack and I really liked that.
So many things to process and only a week before they blow our minds again.

Gave it a ten. My mind was being blown right and left.

Loved it! So worth the wait. It exceeded my expectations.

I'm so happy the show is back. I loved it. Great pace. I want more!

10/10

I thought it was terrific episode and a fantastic way to start the new season. I agree with a few others who have stated that it seemed more like a set-up, indeed it is the calm before the storm in my opinion. Jorge Garcia's performance was outstanding, I was really moved when Hurley told Claire Charlie was dead. Subsequently his interaction with Charlie was great... "I am dead and I am here"..followed by "smack". lol... I was so happy to see Charlie back on the show.

It was great to see almost the entire cast used; Ben had some amazing lines, I laughed at "with your permission Jack. I would like to go with John, I loved it when Danielle dropped Ben for calling Alex her daughter and Bernard & Rose are always terrific together. The new guy that parachuted in was kinda creepy as well the fake lawyer that visited Hurley in teh mental hospital was disturbing. There were so many little things that I really enjoyed. If this episode is any indication of what the rest of Season 4 has in store for us, it is going to be awesome! :)

I gave it a six. I was very happy to have Lost back on, and it was a decent episode, but there were no real shockers in this episode like we've seen in the season openers. I guess after hearing all the cast interviews saying that this was going to be a very direct season, I expected this season opener to be a little more meaty to get things going. And that helicopter scene at the end was the cheesiest thing I've ever seen on TV.

He wasn't really their attorney. He was an imposter.
I would've given this episode a better rating if it had been 2 hours. It was great but I don't think we learned a lot of new stuff. (Or maybe I'm just over-spoiled...)
My favorite 2 parts was Sayid's reaction to Charlie's death and Ben cringing from Danielle when they were alone in the woods with Jack. ;)

I agree with you Selene1212 that it should have been a two hour epi, but ah well.....

Things that caught me (in no particular order):

- Jack actually pulling the trigger on Locke. I screamed because I had been telling him to just pull it already!!! Any chance of reconciliation was pro'ly squashed right there.
- Hurley telling Claire about Charlie's death
- How good Charlie looked in between states (or whatever the hell he's in;) ).
- We can't really tell where they are at as far as time is concerned in the FFs.
- Danielle clocking Ben for Ben calling Alex his daughter. Heh-heh.
- Every hallucination (?) scene Hurley had. Especially the water scene in the interogation room. Creeeepy.
- If the attorney guy really is an imposter, then who is he?
- Did anyone glean any answers from this episode?
- The 8pm to 9pm hour flew right on by.

As I've said in other posts: Thank You to everyone involved with creating this epi. I didn't give it a 10 but I sure enjoyed myself watching this.

I was thoroughly pleased with the season premiere. I thought it was fantastic, and I'm actually glad that they didn't do a splashy opening. It was a really well crafted episode that showcased all the characters, especially Hurley.

Jorge did a great job, and it was fitting that the season opened with Hurley since it also closed last season with Charlie's death. I'll tell ya, I REALLY love the chemistry between Jorge and Dominic, and I'll be more than happy to see Charlie the Ghost for the rest of the series. I'd have no problem with it.

FLASHFORWARD

The flashforward was well done, and since I wasn't spoiled, it was a really enjoyable ride for me. The fact that Hurley and Jack interacted in the future like that was great. There were several interesting points in the flashforward:

1. Jack seemed to know instantly who was in the car while he was watching television. It's entirely possible that he's been meeting up with Hurley and knows what car he drives, but it was interesting that Jack reacted that Hurley was losing it. Also noteworthy was that Jack isn't exactly keeping it together himself since he topped off his orange juice with a little vodka. The seeds are being sown.

2. Why is Oceanic keeping tabs on Hurley (and probably the other five)? Was the lawyer from Oceanic real or imagined? I'm thinking he was real.

2. Charlie told Hurley that "They need you" or something to that effect. Clearly people remained behind, and I got the feeling that they were not left behind but STAYED and then something went wrong.

3. It was very interesting that when Jack and Hurley were playing basketball, Hurley apologized to Jack for going with Locke and that he should have stayed with Jack. To me that indicates that LEAVING the island was not the mistake and somehow going with Locke was not a good idea. It was also worth noting that Jack DIDN'T want to go back at that point. Therefore, something happened later to make Jack change his mind and become what he became, which leads to #4.

4. Hurley said to Jack "IT didn't want us to leave" and "IT wants us to go back." He didn't say "he" or "him" or "them." He said "IT." That is so cool and I'm dying to know what "it" is.

ON ISLAND:

I thought Hurley and Claire's reaction to Charlie's death was well done, but I was hoping for more of an emotional reaction from Jack and Locke. Jack did react to Hurley's words and he did have a moment later by the fuselage, but I thought it would be bigger. I felt the same about Locke since he really helped Charlie to kick his drug habit, and there was a relationship of sorts between them. Locke seemed somewhat detached. Perhaps it was just better for the writers to focus on Hurley and Claire's pain. It was well done regardless.

I also have to give kudos to Sawyer, who I was not thrilled with last year at all. I haven't seen that side of Sawyer for a while. Heck, I'm not sure I've ever seen it. His first priority was Hurley's well being, and the fact that he was willing to give Hurley someone to talk to and walk with was just really sweet. Sawyer was a true friend to Hurley in that moment. Very nice.

CAMP JACK / CAMP LOCKE:

I have to admit that I was surprised that Jack pulled the trigger on John. I didn't think that Jack had that in him, but then after thinking about it, Locke has been a thorn in Jack's side for months. It's easy for anyone to see that Locke has lost it. He just murdered a woman in cold blood, he got Sawyer to kill his own father, he blew up the sub and the station, and he never explains anything. Even Sayid was disgusted with Locke. I noted that two of the people who went with Locke at the end were mostly supporting Charlie (Hurley, Claire) not Locke. Sawyer and Desmond have their suspicions about the freighters too.

As for Jack's team, it makes sense that a large chunk wants to attempt rescue. That's just common sense. Even Rose, who has cancer, is willing to chance it coming back rather than stay on the island (or go with Locke). Sayid surprised me because he IS suspicious, but I'm guessing he may want to get a good look at these new arrivals and because he doesn't trust Locke anymore than Jack. Juliet is a no brainer since she wants off the island. Kate is a bit of a surprise since she is a fugitive in the outside world.

I just want to say that I LOVE the dynamic of Matthew Fox and Terry O'Quinn.

OVERALL:

I loved the episode. The cast was fantastic and everyone got nice screen time and the plot is moving forward. My favorite part was the basketball scene with Hurley and Jack because that's where most of the interesting questions (for me) were dropped. What was the "IT" Hurley was talking about and why was going with Locke a mistake?

Also, I don't think the FF are years in the future. Hurley and Jack were talking like it might have only been months (6-9) maybe? That was my impression anyway.

I gave it a 9!

i age it a 7, it was real good, with some good and bad points

Good: Hurleys grief over his friend, deciding to tell Claire. Sawyers consoling attitude towards hugo in the jungle i thought was a benchmark for sawyer. sawyers look of jealo9usy or disgust over kate giving jack a hug and a smooch (further friction and power struggle potential), Jack actually pulling the trigger, didnt think he could, could tell Locke was equally surprised. Mr Abaddon, very spooky dark menacing type,, good stuff. Danielle backhanding Ben for calling her "his" daughter

Bad: Naomi taking off into the jungle unseen by anyone? lame. Claire in general, i hope shes guilt ridden over never openning up to charlie instead of just using him as a babysitter. missing interaction between Locke and Hurley from time they meet and catch up with the rest of the group.. surely hurley asked about who was in the cabin.

Funny: Ben, batterred, bloody, tetherred says " jack, with your permission i would like to go with John" only a day or so after ben had shot him and left him for dead in a mass grave,,, great dark humor

It was Awesome stop hating on the show!!! Give it a chance to get some steam going. I dont care LOST is always number 1 with me I vote a perfect ten

I would give it about a 9.8, so I'm delighted to round that up to a 10.

Loved everything about the episode, especially the fact that it added about 146 new questions to my list - but all in a good, tickly kind of way. I'll write more in the "Loved it" thread, but I just wanted to say I think this was a superb season opener. I was also particularly happy that the episode gave Charlie's death its due. Well done. :biggrin:

Great start of a season, I'm just afraid it will end badly because of the dang writers strike.

A 9!

VERY NICE!:biggrin:

However, only an hour long!:frown:

I really like it. But I think Im gonna lay off the spoliers, although it was just a preview. I knew Id see Charlie, and I was surprised when I seen him but I could have been more surprised.
I loved the epi. gave it a nine, cause it still doesnt compare to GH.

Whoa, I've ventured into completely new territory here.

I haven't watched an episode of Lost unspoiled since January 2006 when I started watching.

So... I don't even know where to begin.

I loved it.

I'm gonna need to watch that again, obviously, but there are two things I'm particularly pleased with:

1. The flashforwards and how they twist and turn the plot and mess with our minds and our perceptions.

2. Charlie's death being acknowledged the way I knew... ok, hoped that Hurley will.

Jorge was great. Everyone was great.

I was only spoiled for one of the big Easter Egg-ish details of tonight, Christian Shephard in Jacob's cabin. The other one, Hurley painting the Arctic guy's station (from LTDA) was a big shock for me. So even without the huge, grandious WTF moments of earstwhile, I still loved it.

It's a 9. It was excellent.

Naomi's death was anticlimactic, but I need to rewatch to see if I still feel the same way.

Liked it, but I gave it an 8 because it was way too confusing for me. I felt like an idiot throughout most of it. * slaps forehead*

I gave it a six. I was very happy to have Lost back on, and it was a decent episode, but there were no real shockers in this episode like we've seen in the season openers. I guess after hearing all the cast interviews saying that this was going to be a very direct season, I expected this season opener to be a little more meaty to get things going. And that helicopter scene at the end was the cheesiest thing I've ever seen on TV.

I'm guessing you're not watching alot of TV then.

I gave it a 9, unlike the previous 2 openers finally it wasn't just one scene that blew my mind.. this episode blew my mind CONSTANTLY.

Can anyone tell me why it says that I may not vote in this poll??? Is it because I am not that active on this site?...if so that's kind of stupid..polls should be for EVERYONE...oh well. ANYWAY I liked this episode a lot. I have no complaints but one...the opening scene wasn't quite what I expected and wasn't on par with the openings of S2 and S3, BUT I kind of let myself be spoiled with the episode being Hurley-centric and the Oceanic 6 so that did contribute. Although it still wouldn't haven't been as shocking as the previous two openers, but you know what, that doesn't really matter because this episode was REALLY good.

Everything about this episode I liked a lot. The flashforward was great and having it be a part of an episode now like something we can expect feels strange but in a really good way. Seeing how they are in the future as opposed to the past or present really heightens your sense of mystery and intrigue in that it causes you to really question what happened in between. And with all the references Jack and Hurley were giving as to the people back on the island and so forth, something has obviously happened that we don't yet know about that will probably shock us beyond belief. I love this new twist they are bringing into the mix.

My absolute favorite part of this episode and now one of our most intriguing mysteries to date was the scene with Hurley in the jungle after he got lost and finding Jacob's cabin. That was definitely Christian Shephard sitting there in Jacob's chair there is no doubt in my mind about that. But what the hell was he doing there??? Can Jacob inhabit the bodies of the dead on the island??? Was it the real Christian??? Is Jacob really Christian???....and how on earth did the cabin move??? Jacob obviously has some kind of supernatural power beyond our comprehension. He is able to create illusions or something. VERY WEIRD but very cool at the same time.

The scene with the division of the groups was really good too. I'm rooting for Team Locke of course, but Locke is and has always been my favorite character so I am biased. But bias matters not when you want to live, and Jack and his team are obviously wrong. Although another question that is raised from all this, How did Jack, Kate and Hurley, as well as the other three really get off the island?? Was it with the freighter??...very possibly not because those people have no interest in rescuing them....and if not then who DID rescue them and why only them and three others???....why not the whole group of them???....the splitting of the groups obviously has a lot to do with it and I am VERY interested to see how that whole situation plays out.

It was a GREAT start to the season and I am very excited to see what they are going to throw at us this year. I don't know how they are going to top the flash-forward but I do believe they will do it. They have topped every shocking revelation thus far and I don't doubt their motivation to do it again, especially now with the fact that the show will end after three years. I can't wait to see what happens this season, and hopefully the strike will end soon so they can start on the remaining 8 so we won't have to wait too long for season 5. It's finally back and that makes me very happy...LONG LIVE LOST!!!!!!!:) ;) :rolleyes:

Won't repeat what I wrote in the "loved it" thread, but I will add what I left out: I was happy to see Jorge Garcia get the season premiere and enjoyed watching him in this episode. Congrats and nice job, Jorge.

I generally liked the episode but it was a little disappointing compared to previous season premieres, which all wowed me in one way or another. I'm still not sure what I think of the flashforwards and knowing ahead of time what their fates would be (it made it difficult to buy the scenes of everyone happy in anticipation of rescue). Hurley had quite a few good moments, and overall, it was reasonably engaging with some interesting questions raised. A decent middle-of-the-road episode... not sure to give it a 7 or an 8, though...

I definitely need to stop with spoilers. the episode was a 9 for me because I spoiled myself a bit too much. plus I felt like the long trailer they kept showing gave stuff away.

But other then that it was fantastic. THE BEST SHOW ON TV IS BACK. PERIOD.
I've been waiting for this all year....every other fall show practically tanked in comparison to previous seasons.

Not LOST.

:D

And that helicopter scene at the end was the cheesiest thing I've ever seen on TV.

Care to explain how so? :34853_huh:

I gave it an 8.

I mean, I did like the episode. It was really good, and nice to see that Lost was back! But I had been missing it for so long, and in my mind, this episode was only an appetizer for things to come. Still, it was a good appetizer, just not a great one.

I give it a solid 8. It was a good mid-season episode but I think it definitely pales in comparison to the S2 and especially S3 openers.

This is my 1st ever 10, I thought the flash forwards could either be a real hit or a real miss.

My 1st thought was I didnt want to know who made it off the island until near the end but that soon got forgotten with a very good episode, perhaps the best ever.

I was a little worried at how I was going to like the flashforwards - they could have just been exposition about the LOSTies fate. How wrong I was. I am actually looking forward to the FFs more than the on-Island story (*gasp*)!

I gave the episode a 9 because I'm a mythology-phile and there wasn't quite enough "Island stuff" (although John pow-wowwing with Christian Sheppard (?!) in Jacob's cabin was quite awesome).

The real strength of this episode was character development, and damned if I didn't tear up about Hurley and Charlie this whole episode. It was very nice to see Hurley in the spotlight, even if he's not my favorite character. I'm getting a little worried that John is getting much more emotionally cold than he used to be, almost militaristic about his devotion to the Island. And Jack! Man! "Jack we both know you wouldn't really shoot me...**click**." Hot Damn, Jack is asserting his authoritah!

LOST is back; long live LOST!

An excellent episode. As someone else said, it didn't start with a huge "BANG" like the Desmond reveal or the Barracks scene, but it moved along at a great clip, dropped plenty of hints on us and had excitement and tension. I gave it a 9.

I give it a solid 8. It was a good mid-season episode but I think it definitely pales in comparison to the S2 and especially S3 openers.

I can't figure out why people are saying that... seeing Hurley's old car that he and his father could never get up and running and realizing that he probably got it to work the same way that he got the van to work... I Loved this opening. It was far more powerful to me than the other ones. And it works the same way as the other premieres... first we see the fruit and assume that it's on island, then we see the car and realize that it's Not, and who's driving it. It's the same type of scene as the last two premieres where it's made to look like it starts Off-island, but we find out that it's actually On the island. I think that this opening scene will be more appreciated a year or so from now when we look Back on it. I remember people not being impressed by the season 2 premiere when I almost passed out from that one.

I loved the entire episode except for the end... I wanted a bigger cliffhanger, but everything else was perfect to me.

I liked it, but it didn't blow my mind.
I gave it a solid 7.
Maybe my expectations were too high after the long hiatus. As a mid-season episode my rating might have been higher, I don't know.
The beginning scene was great, though I did read the spoilers for that and wasn't overly surprised.
The on-island scenes were not as great as I had expected, though. It was Ben who really saved the day for me - all the scenes he was in were excellent; especially the one where he was asking Danielle for a favour.
The total shiver-and goosebumps scene was the one with Hurley and Charlie. The flashforward scenes were great alltogether, but that one really got to me.
So yeah, it might have been my own expectations that dropped the rating. It wasn't the greatest season-opening episode ever (season 2 is still unbeatable IMO), but it was good. It got me totally excited for more.

Loved it.
It was an hour that felt like two... the pacing, the writing (oh so important, yes? ;) ), the acting,.. everything.
Jorge's performance was outstanding. I'm really glad to see his character get a premiere epi.

oh, and... seeing Lost finally, after the long, long hiatus.... really made me love it all that much more. it's been said before, in so many ways, but still bears repeating. There is nothing else on TV in the same leaggue as Lost.

I originally posted a six for this episode but on reflection I want to upgrade my vote. there ws alot going on that I didn't pick up at first. Even though alot of the episode annoyed me as not making sense, even in the ontext of the Lost mythology just the fact that it has me thnking is good thing.

I gave it a 7. Not the most heart stopping episode, but pretty decent. Many more questions to be answered!

I gave this ep a 7. It was good enough that I'm once again interested in the show in a major way. I've missed that feeling. I enjoyed the back and forth between times and the set ups that were made for future eps with regard to alliances (forged, broken & everything in between).

I'm strapped in for the next 7 eps and ready for anything! :LockeOranges:

I gave it a 10!
Absolutely EXCELENT episode!
Jorge turned in an Emmy worthy performance! It was great how they sneaked Charley into the episode, too!

Just a thought - now that it has been established that Hurley can see the dead, (if he ISN'T crazy, that is!) This is the perfect method of bringing back EVERYONE who's died on the island! (But PLEASE - NOT Nickie or Paulo!)

Questions eating at my mind:
Who was this mysterious Mr. Abaddon that visited Hurley? In the Bible, (Rev. 9:11) Abaddon is the name of the angel(?) - king in charge over the bottomless pit. Is he a representitive of the group from the freighter?

Who will Naomi's sister turn out to be?

Was Kate brought back secretly as part of the deal for her silence? If so - is she not included in the "Oceanic 6?"

How did the freighties find the island? Is Michael on the ship?

Cant wait 'till next Thursday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In the words of Larry David... pretty pretty pretty good. This really is the beginning of the end.

9/10, one of the best premieres of the show, and easily the most exciting since the season 1 opener. Glad they worked the whole cast in to it, plus there were tons of great moments, things to look for, and the flashforwards were great. It really adds a nice new feel to the show, and instantly makes each episode at least twice as interesting than just normal flashbacks. The only reason I didnt give a 10 is because I just know some stuff coming up will be even that much better, can't wait!

I gave it an 8. Solid, workmanlike, several WOW moments. I more division and decession amongst the Lost a ways. Hurley was spectacular, Charlie's appearance got my mind reeling. whole thing felt like it only took 5 minutes. Lots of exposition, this is gonna be a great season.
100%
I gave it an 8. Solid, workmanlike, several WOW moments.Lots more division and disagreement amongst the Lost-a-ways. Hurley was spectacular, Charlie's appearance got my mind reeling. whole thing felt like it only took 5 minutes. Lots of exposition, this is gonna be a great season.

loved the episode, I gave it a 9. Hurley is the man and I think Ben is in the coffin.

I gave it a 10. My Lost is back!

I can't figure out why people are saying that... seeing Hurley's old car that he and his father could never get up and running and realizing that he probably got it to work the same way that he got the van to work... I Loved this opening. It was far more powerful to me than the other ones. And it works the same way as the other premieres... first we see the fruit and assume that it's on island, then we see the car and realize that it's Not, and who's driving it. It's the same type of scene as the last two premieres where it's made to look like it starts Off-island, but we find out that it's actually On the island.

In this way the opening mirrored the S2 and S3 openings, but with a different sort of fakeout. Like you said, the pile of papayas looked like they were on island (and yay! I guessed right on the first image of the season quiz!) but fakeout! they're not; we get a headless scene of someone in their apartment preparing something to drink like Des in the hatch for S2, and Juliet with her muffins in S3, so I thought maybe we'll meet one of the freighter people in the past or something. But fakeout - it's someone we know already! And lookin' good in a blue button-down too, I might add, but what's this screwdriver for breakfast?

I think we all expected the island action to pick up just where it left off and they wisely reunited the Losties in the same episode, having learned the bitter lesson of the Season 3 mini-arc. Only to tear them apart at the end - the silent sorting of the group into two camps was heartbreaking, with nobody even saying good-bye.

There's so much more - Jorge put in an awesome performance in both the island and flashforward, and they dealt with Charlie's death in a fitting manner.

I'm so glad it's back! :biggrin:

It's hard to tell if I'm so happy because it's finally on again, or that this was just a really well written episode, either way. I loooovvveeeddd it.

10/10 from me, sooo worth the wait,
i havent a bad word to say about this episode
lets hope the sheer quality continues as i'm sure it will

9/10 excellent, best season opener since the pilot!

Gave it 9. I loved it - but I probably would've liked it more if I hadn't been spoiled of a number of things - though that's obviously my own fault. I'll try to kick them off for now. The only real fault here was that I want more! :D Pretty much same feeling I had for season 1 episodes!

I gave it a 10. My Lost is back!



In this way the opening mirrored the S2 and S3 openings, but with a different sort of fakeout. Like you said, the pile of papayas looked like they were on island (and yay! I guessed right on the first image of the season quiz!) but fakeout! they're not; we get a headless scene of someone in their apartment preparing something to drink like Des in the hatch for S2, and Juliet with her muffins in S3, so I thought maybe we'll meet one of the freighter people in the past or something. But fakeout - it's someone we know already! And lookin' good in a blue button-down too, I might add, but what's this screwdriver for breakfast?

I think we all expected the island action to pick up just where it left off and they wisely reunited the Losties in the same episode, having learned the bitter lesson of the Season 3 mini-arc. Only to tear them apart at the end - the silent sorting of the group into two camps was heartbreaking, with nobody even saying good-bye.

There's so much more - Jorge put in an awesome performance in both the island and flashforward, and they dealt with Charlie's death in a fitting manner.

I'm so glad it's back! :biggrin:

And it's refreshing how they address ALL of the Losties in the premiere this season. If this were season 2 or 3 then Charlie's death might not have been addressed until the 2nd or third episode (like they did with Walt's kidnapping and the hatch explosion). Maybe this was a by-product of the scheduled shorter seasons. If so, then I like it.

10- Definitely the best season premiere (without counting the Pilot). It met all my expectations- many shock moments, new mysteries, great character development. A completely exciting and thrilling hour- there is really nothing else like this on television. aah, how I love this show.

I gave it a 9 I thought it was a brilliant episode, The best since the pilot.
I can't wait to see more flashforwards and I was so happy to see Charlie again, His scene with Hurley was my favorite and I was so shocked to see him. It was also great to see the cast reunited, I thought it might be a while before some of them meet again as it was in seasons two and three.
It was interesting to see who stayed with Locke, I thought Rose and Bernard would have. I'm so glad Lost is back, it's been too long! :)

Rated it a 7

It was good......... but not "season premier" good.

Sorry for not wading through the rest of the posts - I'm dying to give my feedback here. Overall I gave it a 9 because the 10 is for the S1 Pilot :D

From a storytelling point of view it's really ingenious to shift from flashbacks to flash-forwards to piece things together. If the intent was to throw things out of whack and make us viewers very very curious about the plot, then it worked for me. It's crazy, this "hindsight style" point of view huh? Oh, and now I am wondering about what's gonna happen to the Locke vs. Jack camps. Crazy crazy ...

Dude, I can't wait for next week.

Very good episode. I agree with some that this should have been a 2 hour epi. I think it set-up the season with new twist. I do like the flash-forwards and how we (the viewers) are going to get there.

I gave it a 3- i'm actually quite surprised how everyone loves it so much?!

It was incredible dull and I just felt cheated of a breath taking comeback after such a long break! Boo I say, boo! :biggrin:

Shamu x

Great episode! Too bad Damon & Carlton can't write all of them. Where to even start?
Hurley seeing Island-type visions off the island? Someone besides him, who was never even on the Island, seeing the same thing (Charley)?! Twice Hurley is shown wishing away an Island vision, and twice it works. Is this a way to defeat Smokey? Probably not, but the thought did occur to me.
This takes place before the finale's flashforward and by then he was saying the same thing as Hurley - that they have to go back! Maybe he started seeing his dad? The Island works in mysterious ways!
The people that stayed behind need them? The Island will do anything to get them to come back?
Did I or did I not see Harold Perrineau's name in the opening credits!? Yet I didn't spot him. Does that mean he's going to be a regular this season?

And oh yeah. Last finale I wasn't really keen on the idea of flashforwards, but I think they will end up being a LOT more interesting than flashbacks!

LOST is back at long last!!
:woohoo:

Overall it was a very good episode presenting plenty of new mysteries but I could have done with more FFs.

Too bad there's not an option for zero.

I liked it but it wasn't as good as last season's opener. Overall, I gave it a 7- I am just so darn happy Lost is back!!!

I thought it was a good epi but not as good as past season openers. Moved well but no real jaw droppers in this one. Looking forward to next week!

love it! 9/10

10. im just so glad that LOST is back.
I thought that is was good and I wanted more, more, more.

Didn't love it. Very midseason and start of a new direction. Very excited about next eppi.

Ok, I didn't initially 'love it."

But I wanna say, like has been said in interviews and what not, LOST is hitting the ground running this time, starting off with the Losties and straight into the action. That's why it seemed so mid-season. We didn't need any brand new characters to confuse us here, we needed to find out what happens with that freighter off the coast. I think it was a good choice for them to change their trend and put the focus there, with the castaways.

That said, when I first watched it I "Didn't love it" because I went into it with certain expectations and an insatiable hunger for LOST fueled by the long hiatus. I was hyper critical.

Now though I think they've got the ball rolling a very interesting, and we're going to feel that momentum for another fifteen episodes.

I gave it an 8 out of 10.

I loved this episode! I gave it a 10. I love the flash forwards, it opens up so many new possibilities for the characters. I also loved seeing Sawyer in his "kinder, gentler" mode and a "take charge" Hurley on the island. Awesome!!

Loved everything except the scenes either with Charlie or where Charlie's name is mentioned.

Well, now that the initial warm glow has worn off, I actually wish I could drop my score to a 9. I know that sounds insignificant, but I am starting to get rid of the gloss over the less-than-perfect part: the Naomi hunt. I hate that she (and Mikhail) were able to live through such massive injuries, even if just temporarily.

Well, now that the initial warm glow has worn off, I actually wish I could drop my score to a 9. I know that sounds insignificant, but I am starting to get rid of the gloss over the less-than-perfect part: the Naomi hunt. I hate that she (and Mikhail) were able to live through such massive injuries, even if just temporarily.

I enjoyed the episode a lot and I'm happily basking still in my OMGMYSHOWISBACK! warm glow, but I agree. Naomi's death was the weak part of the hour. I'm not a doctor, but if you tell me she pulled a knife out of her own back, trekked through the jungle leaving dummy trails and climbed a tree with that massive gash in her back, I'd roll my eyes out too. As a viewer, I can chalk that up to the Island's mojo, but it wore off in 30 seconds, as soon as it was highly convenient for Naomi to die. It was anticlimactic.

I also hated the girls swooning over their manly men heroes and Rose telling Claire she needs to put out now. I know they didn't know Charlie was dead, but I do (so that made it extra... skeevy) and I have enough issues with how they write women on this show anyway.

I'm happy with it overall and I gave it a nine which still stands.

what a great way to open the season. i was really impressed.

but I agree. Naomi's death was the weak part of the hour.

Yep, that's why I gave it a 9. It was a tad ridiculous.

Still, the rest was well acted (Jorge Garcia is king at playing an angry nut job - he gets the oscar for this episode) and nicely paced. Confusing and bewildering as usual I thought it was a terrific start to the series.

I rated 8.

I Gave it a Ten!
I think you guys are too stingy with the tens.
LOST is my favorite hour of television every week that it is on. the writers, creators, actors etc are so brilliant at story telling it thills me through & through just watching where the story will take me each week.
My anticipation & expectations were so high I was afraid I might be dissappointed...but I was thouroughly satisfied. These guys are so good with weaving the many varied & colorful threads that create the tapestry of LOST that I am very nearly always joyfully pleased with the show.
I found this episode Exciting, mysterious,mind bending, funny, heartbreaking (I cried a couple of times)surprising & chocked full of little Gems.
Wonderfully unique, entertaining Television. Soo refreshing.
LOST is such good exercise for my brain!
Even if I don't have a clue about what's going on in a particular scene my mind loves trying to figure it out...I know it sounds weird but I think my brain was excited LOST was back on too! As if it missed the mind games LOST puts us through....it felt like my brain woke up & jumped back into the game.
LOST also gives my emotions a good work-out! Lots of different emotions and often at surprising times. I never know when I'll be shocked or amazed or scared. Or when I'll get cold chills or be creeped out or when
I'll be Laughing,crying,cringing,shouting,gasping,hiding my eyes or simply enjoying the view.
Really LOST is the most consistantly satifying Television experience I've had in a long long time (Maybe ever).
I feel the LOST team deserves as many 10's as I can give them. Living up to my (our) expectations isn't easy and they are able to give me an exciting ride week after week. This Episode was jammed packed & I think the rest will be too as we move to the end of the Story
BTW I don't think the FF's we're seeing are the end of the story (as many here seem to think) but more like the middle of the story I feel like we'll see the Oceanic 6 return to the Island I feel the story will end on the Island not off.
Anyway I LOVE LOST!!
Where are those paddles...10....10...10!

I didn't like the Naomi thing at all. Seemed kind of nutso and over the top--she was able to make a false trail, make a real trail and climb up a tree to jump down on Kate and say Boo! Pffffttttt!:rolleye1: Silly!

Well, now that the initial warm glow has worn off, I actually wish I could drop my score to a 9. I know that sounds insignificant, but I am starting to get rid of the gloss over the less-than-perfect part: the Naomi hunt. I hate that she (and Mikhail) were able to live through such massive injuries, even if just temporarily.

Lol. I'm glad I'm not the only who feels that way. I need to wait a day or two before I give my vote next time. I gave it a ten, but after rewatching it, I found parts of the first half of the episode to be kind of slow. So, I wish I could change my vote to a 9 too, but oh well, twas still good episode and it is great to have the show back. :biggrin:

I feel if it hadnt been for a few cast members acting (TOQ always good, JG, EL and ME were also good) this would have been an awful episode... I felt it was a shambles, the flashbacks were randomly placed and I felt like it was a total mess and badly edited. Im sorry, its how I feel.

Well if you thought those were flashbacks, I understand.

I havent read any posts so I'd have no biases.

I loved this episode. It was fast-paced, it had nice twists (Charlie may live on in FFs, was Abaddon Smoky...?!) and by splitting the Losties right away, it set the tone for the rest of the season, if not the serie.

Was totally taken by surprise by Hurley in the Jack scene. Of all the people I thought wouldnt want to go back, I'd thought it would be him!

...Will they make it back? Will they try? Who will want to go back? ...And now THE question WHY???

A am sooooooooo hoping for a miracle that could end the strike...
Eric.

I gave it a 9. I'm glad Hurley got the first episode, and it was great to see Charlie. So much good stuff... plus Lost is back!

Lol. I'm glad I'm not the only who feels that way. I need to wait a day or two before I give my vote next time. I gave it a ten, but after rewatching it, I found parts of the first half of the episode to be kind of slow. So, I wish I could change my vote to a 9 too, but oh well, twas still good episode and it is great to have the show back. :biggrin:
Haha! Well, when I do the calculations for my regular rankings thread (see my S3 one here (http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=83300)), I'll be sure to modify yours and my votes to 9s. ;)

After watching it a second time, I wish I would rate the episode higher than I originally did. I gave it a 7 at first, but now it is a strong 8/weak nine.

I agree that the first part is rather slow, but the second half is pretty darn good.

After watching it a second time, I wish I would rate the episode higher than I originally did. I gave it a 7 at first, but now it is a strong 8/weak nine.

I agree that the first part is rather slow, but the second half is pretty darn good.


My take was that the first half was the calm before the storm. Great Episode, I loved the second half so much, with all the tension, and the rain, and Jack's itchy trigger finger *click*.

Great Episode, and for what it's worth Jennylee, if I could change my mind, I'd have voted a 9 instead of an 8. ;) For me it was the opposite, after the initial slight disappointment (I guess at the lack of a mindcluck as in S2 and S3), the episode sank in and I began to really appreciate what they've set up for this season.

By the way, good work on compiling those ratings. I love those lists. Too bad we dont have any stats for the first season. :( Maybe next time around another REWIND will happen and some polls will be set up.

Great Episode, and for what it's worth Jennylee, if I could change my mind, I'd have voted a 9 instead of an 8. ;) For me it was the opposite, after the initial slight disappointment (I guess at the lack of a mindcluck as in S2 and S3), the episode sank in and I began to really appreciate what they've set up for this season.

By the way, good work on compiling those ratings. I love those lists. Too bad we dont have any stats for the first season. :( Maybe next time around another REWIND will happen and some polls will be set up.
Haha, then I guess we cancel each other out, basically.
Glad you like the compilation threads. As for S1, yeah, I don't think they had the polls that year. Also, if we did it now, we'd be way biased because we'd know what comes next. Oh well!

Haha, then I guess we cancel each other out, basically.
Glad you like the compilation threads. As for S1, yeah, I don't think they had the polls that year. Also, if we did it now, we'd be way biased because we'd know what comes next. Oh well!


Yeah, oh well. Though to be honest, when I watch those again, i remember my first impression each time. I think I could vote unbiased. :P But who knows...

We took the time to watch it again, and we gave it 8/10. [I should state that my husband loved it from the first viewing.] There were some things I didn't like (Naomi crawling off AND leaving a fake trail, and no one noticed? The incredibly fast division of everyone into two groups?), but overall, it's grown on me.
I loved that Jack tried to off Locke. Now, I really enjoy both characters, don't get me wrong, but it was just an amazing insight into how frustrated, irritated, and at his wits' end Jack is. And, it really got me thinking about Locke's knife toss into Naomi's back. Did he place it just where he knew it would put her down but not kill her, at least not immediately?
Always love LOST. There is so much to think about.
Here's to a resolution to the strike...soon.

Considering it was a season opener, it was (relatively to the other season openers) a bit of a disappointment really. So just a 7 from me.

Thought it was good gave it an 8, however didn't think it was up there with the best. Didn't live up in my opinion to Tale of Two Cities (Series 3 opener) and a few others.

understanding the strike and all i some how thought it would be a hour show. but the in all it was a 10... still feel numb over seeing the show after such along time gone..

I gave it a 9, I thought it was a good opener. Anxious about the next eppi !! :biggrin:

A 9 for the ambiguity at the end between who went with Jack and who went with Sawyer. That's still confusing me.

I thought now that they know how many episodes are left there wasn't going to be any pointless time wasting? Then what was that naomi stuff about? It didn't achieve anything other than killing ten minutes of episode time.

Also, the acting has gone downhill, in my opinion. And the show looks like a tv show now, whereas it used to look like a movie.

I didn't hate it but there wasn't much to love either.

Ok- I finally got to watch the episode :)
I've gotta admit that I'd probably have enjoyed it even much more had I not read all the comments/spoilers beforehand about the episode.
For example- the opening scene- I already read the spoilers somewhere that it was going to be the car chase. And I knew long ago that it was going to be Hurley-centric.
And certain scenes- like the Jack/Locke division, Jack and Charlie visiting Hurley in the institution, Kate stealing the phone and having the encounter with Naomi, Hurley stumbling across the freaky cabin- had I not read any comments about these from ppl who have already watched the show- I would've enjoyed these little scenes even more.
BUT.....I'm not complaining at all....because I still thoroughly enjoyed the episode!!
Great acting by Jorge Garcia!
Who do you think it was on the rocking chair in the cabin? And whose eye was it peering back at Hurley? That has got to be the most freaky scene ever!
And Claire.....first her dad abandoned her, then her mom went into a coma after car accident, then her boyfriend left her when she was pregnant, then now Charlie is dead.
It's either the writers really don't care about this character, or she's really the most unlucky person ever.

Oh- and I gave it an 8. Would've given it a 9 or maybe even a 10 had I not been spoiled.

Also, the acting has gone downhill, in my opinion. And the show looks like a tv show now, whereas it used to look like a movie.



this really stood out for me. why dont u give us some examples? Jorge Garcia's performance was never better. I also loved Matthew Fox. His delivery when he "shot" Locke was perfect. And Michael Emerson.. don't even go there. He did just as great as the sarcastic "ive nothing to lose" Ben as the creepy leader Ben.

As for the 2nd part of ur statement... I dont even know what you mean. The CGI? The way it was shot(camera angles)? The cinemtography?

In terms of subliminal easter egg type stuff I would give it an 8, overall, about a 6.

Great ep;)

Loved it, gave it a 10 because it was so good to have it back and really....no other TV show compares even on a ho-hum episode of LOST (not sure there are any ho-hum epi's, but I digress).

I still can't believe that Jack's dad was in the rocking chair, that Hurley is one of the O6, and everything else.

How about Jack basically wanting to kill everyone? Someone mentioned a decent into madness...you got it. Although based on the FF Jack seems fine when he first gets off the island (or whenever that took place).

I also wanted more info about who went with Jack vs. Locke...anyone catch where Sayid went? I'm not complaining though, I'm sure that will be obvious next week (or should I say tomorrow night).

I just love this show, and all the craziness it makes you feel. I have never in my life experienced a show like this! Complainers can say all they want, but with regards to television, we are experiencing history in the making right now with this show. I'm enjoying every second of it!

I really liked the episode. It makes me get so impatient for the next one because I just need to know what happened!

As always, the acting was brilliant. There were parts that I was sad about and some I smiled in. My emotions went all around. Great first episode.

Uhhh, YEAH i luved this episode. It was nice for a change to get someone other than Jack to have in the centric episode.

totally frickin awesome

I loved the eppisode. Jack was awesome!!! The flash back was cool and I was very pleased :)

I also wanted more info about who went with Jack vs. Locke...anyone catch where Sayid went?



I believe he stayed in the Jack camp.

Anyway, this is a definite 8/10 for me. I'm hoping the powers that be can maintain this high quality.

I love the Island story with FF now. On a normal show, viewers would expect that the story ends with the big rescue in the series finale. Leave it to Lost; we see what the rescued Losties are doing while they are still stranded, and we know that life was better on the Island!! What an amazing twist to the best TV show ever!!

10 for a great start to S4.