Can Sawyer make peace with himself that he did that? Is he next???

Each person there has a skeleton in their closet...They cant move on until it is all cleared up Than they can move on...

TPTB have said since season 1 they are not in pergatory...but after tonight how can we beleive that>>>

I haven't had the time to read the threads tonight, and I know this was dissussed in the past, especially after last week's ep. I'm not sure if there was a better thread discussing this, so please link the discussion if you find one.

Tonight obviously lead to the belief that this is Purgatory. I don't neccessarily believe this because it seems hard to believe that the writers would unveil the underlying plot before the serie's end. And yes, they have denied it, but to believe them would be somewhat foolish. If people are really on to their ultimate plot line, why on earth would they admit to it? It would ruin the show for everyone. So of course they will either lie, or dance around the truth.

Anyway, it seems like flight 815 crashed and the 42 "survivors" are the people caught in Purgatory. They must seek redemption in order for their soul to enter heaven or hell. These are all people with shady pasts. They have either killed someone intentsionally or unintentsionally. For example, after tonight, Sawyer would probably go to hell for seeking redemption by killing the real sawyer. Locke may make it into heaven because he choose not to commit murder, however I'm not sure how being an accessory to murder should be any different. It seems like the smoke monster manifests into each person's redemption. There are so many references to the purgatory theme yet I am still lead to believe something bigger is yet to come.

So here's my crackpot theory:
Everyone is really alive and are test subjects for the others, just as many of us have thought all along. However, they are studying something much more important than fertility as Richard Alpert told Locke. What if they are studying human behavior as if they are in the after life. The losties are told they are really dead, when in fact they are alive. The others study how they react when they believe they need to seek redemption to enter heaven or hell. I don't believe there have ever been any experiments based on this. It seems rather cruel to make someone believe they are dead, but the others don't care. This study could serve a greater purpose than fertility. Life and Death. One experiment focuses on bringing life to the island, the other on death. Think of the others as the Man of Science team and the losties as the Man of Faith team. We have our scientists waging war on the faith of the losties. Who will win? Will the plan be discovered?

I can't wait to see what everyone else thought about this episode.

that would be an awesome experiment. Great theory but i still think it would be a bit lame if it was revealed the whole thing was some social experiment.

On their podcast they stated that after this episode everyone would scream that they had lied about the Purgatory thing based on the dialouge...they knew we would think this and said ahead of time that it is indeed not Purgatory...

I haven't listened to this week's podcast. I will in the morning. So what do you think they are getting at? I can buy that in the end, this won't turn out to be purgatory, but why are they giving such strong references to purgatory or hell? I trust that they have something shocking ahead. Maybe once we better understand what Dharma is about things will make more sense. Oh, there was also a reference to the bermuda triangle theory. Naomi said her instruments started spinning, just like people in the triangle have reported. Not saying that this is the Bermuda triangle, but another triangle type occurance. I think there is one called the Devils Triangle which is close to Asia or something.

I haven't listened to this week's podcast. I will in the morning. So what do you think they are getting at? I can buy that in the end, this won't turn out to be purgatory, but why are they giving such strong references to purgatory or hell?


Misdirection. Naomi and Cooper were so direct in suggesting that everyone was actually dead that it simply can't be that. Ben is so clearly testing people's behavior and reactions that there must be some level of sociological experimentation going on.The entire show is structured like one long con, and the the illusion is beginning to fall apart. Suddenly having the knowledge that the world believes there were no survivors to flight 815 seems to be pushing that there is something more to how and why the survivors are there in the first place, though it doesn't have to be taken at face value.

On their podcast they stated that after this episode everyone would scream that they had lied about the Purgatory thing based on the dialouge...they knew we would think this and said ahead of time that it is indeed not Purgatory...
really i didnt catch that, thanks, not that i believevd it could be purgatory, but its nice to be reassured

Does anyone know how many more seasons they plan on doing?

Does anyone know how many more seasons they plan on doing?

Not sure yet on how many seasons although there are rumors that the fourth season could be the last, or they might push it to five.
May I add for once and for all that they are NOT in purgatory!! Please everyone stop posting about this! I know everyone has their right to write whatever they want, but I cringe ever time I see a thread on this subject.

Misdirection. Naomi and Cooper were so direct in suggesting that everyone was actually dead that it simply can't be that. Ben is so clearly testing people's behavior and reactions that there must be some level of sociological experimentation going on.The entire show is structured like one long con, and the the illusion is beginning to fall apart. Suddenly having the knowledge that the world believes there were no survivors to flight 815 seems to be pushing that there is something more to how and why the survivors are there in the first place, though it doesn't have to be taken at face value.

This reminds me of the movie The Illusionist, with Edward Norton and Jessica Biel. If you intend to see the movie, this will spoil it....The whole movie you are led to believe that Norton is this amazing illusionist and has been able to communicate with his dead lover, Biel, and present her "ghost" to the audience. I forget most of the details, but in the very end, we discover that the entire illusionist act was a con. Biel's character never really died, but they convinced everyone she was dead so they could run off together.

Maybe everyone in the outside world has been fed the illusion that they are dead so the others can do whatever they want with the losties once nobody is looking. The theory that the others staged the crash has been a big theory. Everyone on the outside coming into the island after news of flight 815, thinks they are dead, even though they may really not be. Do we know of anyone other than Naomi and Cooper who showed up after the crash?

Look at Juliet...she didn't "die", so that's how you know they are not in purgatory...