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Saukkomies 05-03-2007, 01:46 AM Where'd Charlie get that humongous pineapple from? Those don't grow naturally in the South Pacific like that. They were originally imported from Brazil to be grown on plantations in Hawaii and the Philippines as a large-scale cash crop similar to sugar cane. That pineapple was huge and definitely was cultivated - not grown in the wild. But that's just it - they wouldn't be growing in the wild on the Island unless someone had brought them over and introduced them. But then they'd have had to have been actively caring for the pineapples to get them to produce such large fruit.
So, unlike the other garden stuff that Sun is growing in the Beach Camp's garden, there wouldn't have been any pineapple seeds in anyone's luggage, and we haven't see any pineapple until this episode, so where did this honking huge mega fruit come from?
Electromagnetic Anomoly 05-03-2007, 01:49 AM Where'd Charlie get that humongous pineapple from? Those don't grow naturally in the South Pacific like that. They were originally imported from Brazil to be grown on plantations in Hawaii and the Philippines as a large-scale cash crop similar to sugar cane. That pineapple was huge and definitely was cultivated - not grown in the wild. But that's just it - they wouldn't be growing in the wild on the Island unless someone had brought them over and introduced them. But then they'd have had to have been actively caring for the pineapples to get them to produce such large fruit.
So, unlike the other garden stuff that Sun is growing in the Beach Camp's garden, there wouldn't have been any pineapple seeds in anyone's luggage, and we haven't see any pineapple until this episode, so where did this honking huge mega fruit come from?
The Box?!
Pythagoras99 05-03-2007, 01:50 AM Where'd Charlie get that humongous pineapple from? Those don't grow naturally in the South Pacific like that. They were originally imported from Brazil to be grown on plantations in Hawaii and the Philippines as a large-scale cash crop similar to sugar cane. That pineapple was huge and definitely was cultivated - not grown in the wild. But that's just it - they wouldn't be growing in the wild on the Island unless someone had brought them over and introduced them. But then they'd have had to have been actively caring for the pineapples to get them to produce such large fruit.
So, unlike the other garden stuff that Sun is growing in the Beach Camp's garden, there wouldn't have been any pineapple seeds in anyone's luggage, and we haven't see any pineapple until this episode, so where did this honking huge mega fruit come from?
They were transporting pinapple seeds on the slave ship, and the island's electromagnetic properties cause it to grow that size.
briar910 05-03-2007, 02:45 AM Yes, it is quite the ideal island isn't it? They also have squash and other various fruits. How convenient. :rolleyes:
Andromache 05-03-2007, 04:54 AM Yes, it is quite the ideal island isn't it? They also have squash and other various fruits. How convenient. :rolleyes:
Ever since we saw the wild boars, I've suspected that the island was at one point discovered and inhabited by Austronesian (Polynesian?) people. They could have brought the boars, some of the fruit, and probably sweet potatoes. I wonder what happened to those people?
Interesting point about the pineapple; they must have come along much later--maybe with Dharma.
Or more likely the writers just figured if there are pineapple in Hawaii, then there must be pineapple on Lost Island as well.
MustangDream 05-03-2007, 04:58 AM Where'd Charlie get that humongous pineapple from? Those don't grow naturally in the South Pacific like that. They were originally imported from Brazil to be grown on plantations in Hawaii and the Philippines as a large-scale cash crop similar to sugar cane. That pineapple was huge and definitely was cultivated - not grown in the wild. But that's just it - they wouldn't be growing in the wild on the Island unless someone had brought them over and introduced them. But then they'd have had to have been actively caring for the pineapples to get them to produce such large fruit.
So, unlike the other garden stuff that Sun is growing in the Beach Camp's garden, there wouldn't have been any pineapple seeds in anyone's luggage, and we haven't see any pineapple until this episode, so where did this honking huge mega fruit come from?
They probably came from the same place as umm a volkswagen, a sonic fence, a polar bear, a umm HOUSE came from. There are all these out of place objects on this island and you pick a ...pineapple? lol /wink
NegativeEntropy 05-03-2007, 05:27 AM yeah, good point. lot of crazy stuff on the island but i think this falls into the category of suspend your disbelief: while most details are perfect and slightly less are actually informative or revealing, the pineapple problem is obviously a production error.
RodimusBen 05-03-2007, 05:29 AM They also have flashlight trees and razor trees on the Island. Didn't you notice?
Desmundo 05-03-2007, 05:44 AM They also have flashlight trees and razor trees on the Island. Didn't you notice?
I hear the flashlight trees are beautiful in the Spring. :)
Saukkomies 05-03-2007, 08:52 AM I hear the flashlight trees are beautiful in the Spring. :)
Too bad for Kate that they don't also have any condom trees. :redface:
wanders01 05-03-2007, 08:55 AM Dharma-Mart?
lostlocke 05-03-2007, 09:08 AM Dharma-Mart?
Uh-oh, are they underpaid as well, like in the states?!!
wanders01 05-03-2007, 09:26 AM Uh-oh, are they underpaid as well, like in the states?!!
I'm not sure they get paid at all.:biggrin:
EllsBells1960 05-03-2007, 09:49 AM They also have flashlight trees and razor trees on the Island. Didn't you notice?
Don't forget the blue-tarp bushes!!!!
wanders01 05-03-2007, 10:17 AM Don't forget the blue-tarp bushes!!!!
and the plastic water bottle recycling company After all 90 days no one loses or destroys the bottles or loses the tops so they must a recycling plant near. Also the "loaves and fishes" seem to go very far when they were suppose to be for two people who were in Swan.
Saukkomies 05-03-2007, 10:42 AM I'm willing and ready to concede to the writers that the Swan held a lot of equipment that is now being put to use by the Beach Camp, such as blue tarps, flashlights, new shovels, etc. But where did they get that pineapple from? It would have had to been introduced by humans. So perhaps there were some wild pineapples growing on the Island that were introduced by Dharma. The wild boars were also introduced, but could have been around for quite some time. However, it just seemed a bit much to see that gigantic pineapple - it looks like one that can be bought pretty much anywhere in Oahu, but those pineapples are intensively cultivated to get huge like that. Wild grown pineapples are much smaller... So I realize I'm nitpicking and all, and I'll stop. But I just thought it was a bit much...
Discotish 05-03-2007, 10:42 AM Actually, Pineapples are not a crop that necessicarly has to be continuiously cultivated or harvested in order to produce fruit. They are often found growing naturally "in the wild" within the islands of the South Pacific, most recently evidenced on this seasons "Survivor: Fiji". When I lived in Hawaii, we had Pineapple plants growing along the side of our house and property. They might not grow to the size of the typical poster picture pineapple that is grown in Hawaii or Costa Rica, but they do grow outside of structured "farms".
I have to agree with everyone else, though. With all the other freaky s#*t goin' down on this island, you're mentioning a pineapple?
Saukkomies 05-03-2007, 10:46 AM Actually, Pineapples are not a crop that necessicarly has to be continuiously cultivated or harvested in order to produce fruit. They are often found growing naturally "in the wild" within the islands of the South Pacific, most recently evidenced on this seasons "Survivor: Fiji". When I lived in Hawaii, we had Pineapple plants growing along the side of our house and property. They might not grow to the size of the typical poster picture pineapple that is grown in Hawaii or Costa Rica, but they do grow outside of structured "farms".
I have to agree with everyone else, though. With all the other freaky s#*t goin' down on this island, you're mentioning a pineapple?
Yes, I also lived in Hawaii, and know about the wild pineapples that grow in the islands of the Pacific now - now that they've been introduced by modern man, that is. They weren't part of the original Polynesian agriculture, though, but were introduced in the early 20th century to the Pacific Islands by Europeans. Which is just to point out that the pineapple we saw in the episode last night was evidence of Dharma growing food on the Island. But it also was brought up because it was just so (as you put it) "Poster Picture" perfect... For a wild-grown pineapple, that thing was ENORMOUS!
Mona Murray 05-03-2007, 10:46 AM Maybe the last Dharma food drop?
Saukkomies 05-03-2007, 11:19 AM Maybe the last Dharma food drop?
Yeah, but it was pretty fresh looking...
Aggie00 05-03-2007, 11:26 AM "Hello, Dharma-Mart? Yes, I would like to place my next food drop order please. Oh, and make sure to include a pineapple and lots of Dharma Beer!"
popstalindesign 05-03-2007, 11:31 AM There are cows, chickens, horses and smoke monsters on the Island, so it's not a stretch for there to be pineapple.
4-8-15Evangeline 05-03-2007, 11:34 AM Or Locke's daddy was right and it's not really an island? But it's not hell either, although.....
Saukkomies 05-03-2007, 01:26 PM There are cows, chickens, horses and smoke monsters on the Island, so it's not a stretch for there to be pineapple.
Yes, of course. :) However, the point I'm trying to make, if I could get my fingers to work intelligently enough to type it out right, is that sure, pineapples could possibly have been introduced to the Island, and may be growing in the wild (we didn't see any growing in any of the gardens we've been shown so far, though), but the pineapple we saw Charlie hefting over to Naomi last night was NOT a wild grown pineapple. It would be as if someone came out of the jungle with a nice pink hairless 240-pound domestic pig, instead of the 100-pound wild bristly boars that are running around on the Island. One would wonder where that obviously domesticated pig came from. Did it escape from some pen being kept by the Others? This is the thing about the big honkin pineapple - it's the equivalent of a domestic farm raised pig, not something one would glean from the wild... I hope that makes sense...
Lost_in_CA 05-03-2007, 01:33 PM Yes, of course. :) However, the point I'm trying to make, if I could get my fingers to work intelligently enough to type it out right, is that sure, pineapples could possibly have been introduced to the Island, and may be growing in the wild (we didn't see any growing in any of the gardens we've been shown so far, though), but the pineapple we saw Charlie hefting over to Naomi last night was NOT a wild grown pineapple. It would be as if someone came out of the jungle with a nice pink hairless 240-pound domestic pig, instead of the 100-pound wild bristly boars that are running around on the Island. One would wonder where that obviously domesticated pig came from. Did it escape from some pen being kept by the Others? This is the thing about the big honkin pineapple - it's the equivalent of a domestic farm raised pig, not something one would glean from the wild... I hope that makes sense...
You make perfect sense but I don't think the perfect pineapple means anything. It's just a prop.
Now about those shovel shrubs . . . :rolleyes:
Saukkomies 05-03-2007, 01:37 PM You make perfect sense but I don't think the perfect pineapple means anything. It's just a prop.
Now about those shovel shrubs . . . :rolleyes:
Yeah, I'm just griping. :redface: You know, sometimes you want Lost to be absolutely pristinely perfect, and then the Props people (who are rushing around trying to perform miracles of creating the sets on time) make a mistake, and we Lostie freaks are all over them about it. On the other hand, maybe our little observations help keep them on their toes... ;)
Andromache 05-03-2007, 04:12 PM Yeah, I'm just griping. :redface: You know, sometimes you want Lost to be absolutely pristinely perfect, and then the Props people (who are rushing around trying to perform miracles of creating the sets on time) make a mistake, and we Lostie freaks are all over them about it. On the other hand, maybe our little observations help keep them on their toes... ;)
I have to admit that I wish they'd be more careful with details like these. In the earlier seasons I felt like it was worthwhile being extra observant when I was watching Lost because little details were important. Now it seems that less attention is being paid to detail and it's not worth paying that close attention because what seems significant is really just going to be a prop error.
waltisfuture 05-03-2007, 04:53 PM When I read the title to this thread I recalled a Saturday Night Live skit with Hitler having to go to the cupboard to pick out a pineapple to placed somewhere uncomfortable. He picks a small one and is told to pick a bigger one. With all the "hell" references in this eppy, it's not that far out of a connection.
Saukkomies 05-03-2007, 11:37 PM When I read the title to this thread I recalled a Saturday Night Live skit with Hitler having to go to the cupboard to pick out a pineapple to placed somewhere uncomfortable. He picks a small one and is told to pick a bigger one. With all the "hell" references in this eppy, it's not that far out of a connection.
Ow! Heh. I think if this line of talk goes any further down that direction we ought to take it to the Dungeon! :biggrin:
briar910 05-04-2007, 12:04 AM Yes, I also lived in Hawaii, and know about the wild pineapples that grow in the islands of the Pacific now - now that they've been introduced by modern man, that is. They weren't part of the original Polynesian agriculture, though, but were introduced in the early 20th century to the Pacific Islands by Europeans. Which is just to point out that the pineapple we saw in the episode last night was evidence of Dharma growing food on the Island. But it also was brought up because it was just so (as you put it) "Poster Picture" perfect... For a wild-grown pineapple, that thing was ENORMOUS!
I'm on your side Saukkomies. I worked on a small organic farm in Hawaii and if we could have just "found" all these wonderful fruits, well, we would have had it pretty easy. I kind of have to look the other way when it comes to all the wonderful fruit they seem to find. I am half expecting them to come across a cacao and coffee orchard anyday now. And then they could make their own chocolate bars and Kate could tell Jack that she finally found that coffee bar. :rolleyes:
Saukkomies 05-04-2007, 12:11 AM I'm on your side Saukkomies. I worked on a small organic farm in Hawaii and if we could have just "found" all these wonderful fruits, well, we would have had it pretty easy. I kind of have to look the other way when it comes to all the wonderful fruit they seem to find. I am half expecting them to come across a cacao and coffee orchard anyday now. And then they could make their own chocolate bars and Kate could tell Jack that she finally found that coffee bar. :rolleyes:
Hah! That's a riot! But actually, okay, don't you recognize some of those trees in the jungle scenes as being coffee trees? I know, they're wild coffee trees, which really don't produce a good consumable bean... But still. Hey, being the total coffee freak and addict that I am, I gotta tell you that one of the VERY HIGH PRIORITY things for me would be to try to find some viable coffee beans growing on that island, and then go about roasting and grinding them! I wouldn't really care that much if the coffee sucked, either - just having a nice hot cuppa Joe would really feel good after waking up and realizing you're still on Craphole Island for another day... ;)
seaquelost 05-04-2007, 12:13 AM Jeez...all this pineapple talk. Now I want a pineapple malt from DQ.
briar910 05-04-2007, 12:15 AM Hah! That's a riot! But actually, okay, don't you recognize some of those trees in the jungle scenes as being coffee trees? I know, they're wild coffee trees, which really don't produce a good consumable bean... But still. Hey, being the total coffee freak and addict that I am, I gotta tell you that one of the VERY HIGH PRIORITY things for me would be to try to find some viable coffee beans growing on that island, and then go about roasting and grinding them! I wouldn't really care that much if the coffee sucked, either - just having a nice hot cuppa Joe would really feel good after waking up and realizing you're still on Craphole Island for another day... ;)
I thought I saw some coffee trees in Catch 22. Hell, if they are "finding" pineapple, they should just write the coffee trees in too. But maybe the general audience might think that is too much. ;)
Saukkomies 05-04-2007, 12:19 AM I thought I saw some coffee trees in Catch 22. Hell, if they are "finding" pineapple, they should just write the coffee trees in too. But maybe the general audience might think that is too much. ;)
Yeah, which is weird, because coffee trees are indigenous plants to the Pacific Islands, but pineapple isn't. Doh!
BillToons 05-04-2007, 12:50 AM They got it from Von's. They had a really good price per pound. Practically gave them away, they did.
Lobby 05-04-2007, 01:42 AM Too bad for Kate that they don't also have any condom trees. :redface:
I'm sure there is a rubber tree or two on the island. :rolleyes:
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