View Full Version : Off With His Head!
imfromthepast 05-03-2007, 02:52 AM Call me crazy, or call me sick, but instead of putting Cooper in a sack and toting him back to Ben, given the Island's healing properties, Locke should have relieved dear old Dad's body of its noggin, and broght that back to Ben. Decapitation is not too good for the old coot, and it would ensure that the basterd was dead. Not to mention the advantage of carrying an eight pound head as opposed to a 200 odd pound body!
Baileysdad 05-03-2007, 02:54 AM That was the only...hmmmm...moment of the episode...toting a dead body through a jungle would have been a task...
The snicker snack of removing his head would have been a good solution albiet a tad gruesome for primetime...:)
LockesKidney 05-03-2007, 02:56 AM I thought the same exact thing, right when Ben told him to bring the body back if wanted to follow them.
I figured 'why not just bring his head? That should be good enough'. :undecide:
imfromthepast 05-03-2007, 02:57 AM Nah, all they do is at the end show Locke don his pack, grab a little sack, look in and say, "Ready Dad?" and walk off.
Better ending, IMHO!
If Locke didn't have it in him to kill him, why would he have it in him to chop of his father's head?
imfromthepast 05-03-2007, 03:01 AM If Locke didn't have it in him to kill him, why would he have it in him to chop of his father's head?
always with the logic!:rolleyes:
Briolette 05-03-2007, 03:14 AM Wont be long 'til there's just a head anyway, since Locke was hauling him by his head...which looked a tad awkward...head to head, like a race.
(Can't chop his head off...he is going to be 'recycled' on that island!)
Eyeland Soul 05-03-2007, 03:03 PM OMG. How gruesome.:eek: But I love it.:biggrin:
Surferdervish 05-03-2007, 03:04 PM I was really hoping more for "out with his kidney." Guess that's a little much for prime time, even at 10pm...
farnsworth 05-03-2007, 03:06 PM "Bring me the head of Alfredo Garcia." A classic Peckinpaugh film.
It just popped in my head after reading this thread. (rhyme not intended) :biggrin:
Chrysander 05-03-2007, 03:07 PM Yeah, I think it was probably just because it would have been a bit strong for the show to have him basically mutilate a corpse. Even if they didn't show it, I think it would be a bit of a gross notion for the show, and for John's character. They could have done it as you said, have him come out with a bloodied knife and a small bag with a weight in it... but still you'd have known what he did, and I think that would really shake John up doing that. I think he'd rather struggle with the whole body than cut through the guy's neck muscles and spine.
Mrs.Woody 05-03-2007, 03:11 PM Nah, all they do is at the end show Locke don his pack, grab a little sack, look in and say, "Ready Dad?" and walk off.
Better ending, IMHO!
LOL, Perfect!! :biggrin:
chelle68 05-03-2007, 03:23 PM Although I think it would have been a better idea to do some chopping.... Locke seems pretty bent on impressing Ben and Ben told him to bring the body.....
Melian 05-03-2007, 03:27 PM It would have certainly made it easier for Locke to carry. ;)
kitdavis 05-03-2007, 03:32 PM Well, we don't know that it's his dad in there - it's probably a wily ruse to get Rousseau into the Other's camp.
Besides, if Ben did have some plan to reanimate him, imagine his shock when only the head turned up!
ChumpyBobo 05-03-2007, 03:33 PM I could be wrong, only watched this once so far and was a little out of it, but didn't Ben say something along the lines when he said you would be able to track us, but don't bother unless you have a body strapped to your back?
hugh_person 05-03-2007, 05:18 PM I wish that Locke would have cut off his head, since I think it would have made for a much better scene when he tracks down the Others:
Locke arrives in camp with just his pack on and approaches Ben
Ben: I told you not to return unless you were carrying your dead father on your back.
Locke stares at Ben, and drops his pack off of his shoulder
Locke: You wanted me to kill my father... well...
Locke reaches into his pack and pulls out something wrapped in cloth and tosses it at Ben's feet
Locke (staring coldly at Ben): Here's his head.
___
That would be sooooo badass!
imfromthepast 05-03-2007, 05:32 PM Or better yet, Locke could have put Cooper's head in a cardboard box and gave it to Ben, saying something like, "I got your magic box right here."
Ben could have then said, "What's in the box?"
Then Morgan Freeman could come running out of the jungle yelling.
Chrysander 05-03-2007, 05:41 PM Do you want to be in our gang?
Yeah alright
Well you'll have to kill your dad
Oh right. Nah, can't be bothered with that
Too bad!
Well, can I get my mate to do it instead?
Sure, just so long as I can have your dad's dead body afterwards
Rad!
DonWidmore 05-03-2007, 05:56 PM Call me crazy, or call me sick, but instead of putting Cooper in a sack and toting him back to Ben, given the Island's healing properties, Locke should have relieved dear old Dad's body of its noggin, and broght that back to Ben. Decapitation is not too good for the old coot, and it would ensure that the basterd was dead. Not to mention the advantage of carrying an eight pound head as opposed to a 200 odd pound body!
If Locke was a homicidal madman then decapitation would make sense. If he was trying to live by a moral code, it would not. Some one told me that since I stopped playing video games I've become re-sensitized to violence.
Eyeland Soul 05-03-2007, 05:59 PM Or better yet, Locke could have put Cooper's head in a cardboard box and gave it to Ben, saying something like, "I got your magic box right here."
Ben could have then said, "What's in the box?"
Then Morgan Freeman could come running out of the jungle yelling.
ROFL:rotflmao2:
Slightly off topic, but wasn't The Black Rock situated squarely inside Rousseau's "Dark Territory," which Smokey fiercely gaurded? Wasn't there that big deal in season one where frenchy didn't even want to get close to the boat and Locke was manhandled by our resident monster? How come Sawyer and Locke both think of going there as just a walk in the park, and then both walk away different directions alone despite the supposed dangers? And how did frenchy walk away from the ship carrying a whole crate full of unstable TNT, when Arzt blew up one carefully wrapped-in-wet-rags stick?
Loved the whole episode and all it's reveals but those questions kept nagging me. I might just be nit picking inconsistencies, but something about that whole ordeal strikes me as wrong.
imfromthepast 05-03-2007, 07:15 PM If Locke was a homicidal madman then decapitation would make sense. If he was trying to live by a moral code, it would not. Some one told me that since I stopped playing video games I've become re-sensitized to violence.
Since when is decapitating a corpse considered the behaviour of a homicidal madman? I mean c'mon, the guy's already dead, where's the homocide? Sure you might get a little blood on your khakis, ok a lot of blood. But if you're careful, you can minimize the mess.
All I'm saying is if you leave the guy's head on his sholders, you're just not sure if he's dead. Removal of the head is a sure means of authinticating the deathness of a suspicious corpse. And my original point being that heads are easier to carry around the jungle than are whole bodies, adds another advantage.
(Now that I think about it, he had Frenchy there, she may have been willing to lend a hand, as it were, she being both crazy and french. Two qualities that go hand in hand with head removal.)
ETA: I just realised that my avatar currently looks like a disembodied head!
Raaabo 05-03-2007, 08:06 PM You're all wrong. The reason why Locke didn't cut off his head was that Ben wanted the body so that they could resurrect it with voodoo ala Weekend at Bernie's 2 so that they could have a dancing Cooper.
Their plan is to have Cooper dance his way off the island to get them rescued!
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