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silveranswer
05-10-2007, 01:51 AM
What is this guy's significance? Obviously he meant something to Ben, since he was moved by his death? His name reminded me of Goodwin- did Ben start naming his residents as 'Goodsomethings'? the Goodspeed/Goodwin thing it too much of a coincidence. Also, Goodspeed seemed rich- nice car, comment by Ben's dad- can we assume Goodspeed is linked to the founders/financiers of Dharma?

missioni
05-10-2007, 01:55 AM
Apparently DHARMA pays their mathematicians a boatload of cash. I think that Horace was Bens oldest friend/associate, the only person aside from his dad that he has known since birth.

exnihil
05-10-2007, 02:54 AM
His name reminded me of Goodwin- did Ben start naming his residents as 'Goodsomethings'? the Goodspeed/Goodwin thing it too much of a coincidence.

"Who are you people?"

"We're the good guys, Michael."

Myha
05-10-2007, 03:05 AM
Anybody else who loves Doug Hutchison??? :biggrin:

devenproject
05-10-2007, 03:09 AM
I think he was the only real father-like figure Ben had.

Music805
05-10-2007, 03:14 AM
I personally thought it was out of respect for the man that got him to the island, thereby giving him the reason to live with the Hostiles.

Myha
05-10-2007, 03:16 AM
He also seemed to show genuine joy that Ben was there, as opposed to his real father who couldn't care less apparently. I think that he definitely was a father figure.

Plus I think that he was Jacob...

island hottie
05-10-2007, 03:17 AM
I did some searching around and this is the only thing I could find. Significant? I'm not sure...

http://www.pastracks.com/hayden/yoder2.htm

shootfire
05-10-2007, 03:30 AM
Meaning and origin of the name Goodspeed:

English: from the expression ‘God speed (you)’; a wish for success for one setting out on an enterprise, presumably applied as a nickname for someone who habitually used this expression.

He was there for Ben's birth and seemed to wish him well. :undecide:

Deadshot
05-10-2007, 03:59 AM
I think we'll definitely see some more of him in future flashbacks. You don't cast someone like Doug then never use him again :D

Myha
05-10-2007, 04:17 AM
You and me Deadshot... you and me... LOL Doug fans...

I have to agree... absolutely.. I think there's more in this for Doug....

*pouts because nobody wants to believe my Horace is Jacob theory...well.. nobody but Deadshot*

Deadshot
05-10-2007, 05:31 AM
Oh I definitely think so. The quick profile shot of Jacob looks very similar to Horace.

northald
05-10-2007, 11:16 AM
I think we'll definitely see some more of him in future flashbacks. You don't cast someone like Doug then never use him again :D

They casted Lando Calrissian and never used him again!

ayrez
05-10-2007, 12:42 PM
[COLOR=black]*pouts because nobody wants to believe my Horace is Jacob theory...well.. nobody but Deadshot*
I'm feeling it. I can't remember Roger's exact words when he stumbled into the road carrying Ben's mother and the baby, but Horace and Olivia exchanged a look, like they knew something he didn't (kind of like the looks Juliet and Jack have been exchanging.) Horace did seem happier to have Ben on the island then Roger. Maybe Horace wasn't really dead?

mrain01
05-10-2007, 01:57 PM
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I'm feeling it. I can't remember Roger's exact words when he stumbled into the road carrying Ben's mother and the baby, but Horace and Olivia exchanged a look, like they knew something he didn't (kind of like the looks Juliet and Jack have been exchanging.) Horace did seem happier to have Ben on the island then Roger. Maybe Horace wasn't really dead?

Or he is as dead as Christian and Yemi.

beema
05-10-2007, 02:14 PM
I think he was the only real father-like figure Ben had.

Yep
He was the only one there who really cared for Ben and treated him kindly.

unrelated, but he was the actor who played the creepy monster-ish liver-eating serial killer on 2 x-files episodes

FoxyLady
05-10-2007, 02:32 PM
I totally agree with the Horace may be Jacob theory. The person in the chair looked like Horace a lot and the show made sure to emphasize Horace's appearance when they show him "dead". I really think this is something. :)

Starr Fish
05-10-2007, 04:33 PM
He and Olivia were there the day Ben was born so they are kind of like God parents or Aunt n' Uncle to the Benry. But they certainly exchanged a look when they came across the Linus trio in front of their car. At first it looked like "there's no way -- not on my white leather seats you don't." I think Horace probably looked after Ben while growing up and probably felt sorry for him? He welcomed Ben warmly at the dock.

BTW, anybody notice how Ben and Roger are like Bizzaro-Walt and Michael. Both single dad's. Michael would do anything to save his son, even kill for him, give up art in order to get a paying job... Perhaps thats why Ben let W&M go?

annieone
05-10-2007, 05:36 PM
by the way, Horace Goodspeed anagrams into
Good hero escaped
or Aged hero scooped. any thoughts?

Matrinka
05-12-2007, 01:11 PM
My first thoughts, when I heard this name, was of the ancient Egyptian god Horus. There can be several connections made between the show and the god's story.

From Wikipedia: Horus is an ancient god of the Ancient Egyptian religion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Egyptian_religion), whose cult survived so long that he evolved dramatically over time and gained many names. The most well known name is the Greek (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_language) Horus, representing the Egyptian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_language) Heru/Har, which is the basic element in most of the other names of Horus. Horus was so important that the Eye of Horus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_of_Horus) became an important Egyptian symbol of power. He had a man's body and a falcon's head. He only had one eye because after Osiris (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osiris) was murdered by his brother Set (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Set_%28mythology%29), Horus fought with Set for the throne of Egypt. In this battle Horus lost one of his eyes and later this became a sign of protection in Egypt. In one story he has said to have cut off his mother's head. Horus united Egypt (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egypt) and bestowed divinity upon the pharaoh (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharaoh).

Since he was god of the sky, Horus became depicted as a falcon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falcon), or as a falcon-headed man, leading to Horus' name, (in Egyptian, Heru), which meant The distant one.

It is nearly impossible to distinguish a "true" Horus from all his many forms. In fact, Horus is mostly a general term for a great number of falcon gods, some of which were worshipped all over Egypt, others simply had local cults. Yet in all of his forms he is regarded as the prince of the gods and the specific patron of the living ruler.
The worship of Horus was brought from the outside by neighboring tribes who invaded and then settled into Egypt. He was their god of war, but was quickly absorbed into the state religion, first as a son of Ra (http://www.touregypt.net/godsofegypt/ra.htm), then changing to become the son of Osiris (http://www.touregypt.net/godsofegypt/osiris.htm). He was the protector and guide to the pharaoh and later pharaohs were believed to be his avatar on earth. Horus was also the patron of young men and the ideal of the dutiful son who grows up to become a just man.
The most popular story of Horus is the one in which he grows to manhood to avenge the death of his father Osiris (http://www.touregypt.net/godsofegypt/osiris.htm) by battling against his cruel uncle Set (http://www.touregypt.net/godsofegypt/set.htm). In many writings, he is said to continue to battle Set (http://www.touregypt.net/godsofegypt/set.htm) daily to ensure the safety of the world.


Since Horus was said to be the sky, it was natural that he was rapidly considered to also contain the sun (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun) and moon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon).

This is interesting because we have seen Locke with two different eyes - one dark and one light. Could they be representing the sun and the moon?

Dr. Suds
05-13-2007, 12:31 PM
His name reminded me of Goodwin- did Ben start naming his residents as 'Goodsomethings'? the Goodspeed/Goodwin thing it too much of a coincidence.
His name is a nod to Howard Fast, author of the short story "The Martian Shop", which shares a thematic resemblance with Lost.