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dwolk311
05-10-2007, 05:44 AM
well, i guess that the reason ben is so obsessed with the whole pregnancy thing is because of his mother. roger blamed him for killing her... maybe the reason women can't give birth and survive is because of ben, and that it didn't start until he showed up on the island.

flashbackfan
05-10-2007, 05:53 AM
Ewww. Creepy!

girlracer265
05-10-2007, 06:08 AM
I was thinking that too:eek2:
my ben hatred has increased :mad:

lostforumdefector
05-10-2007, 07:59 AM
The reason why mothers die on the island is because Ben believes deep down that he killed his mother. No matter how rationally he may think about it as an adult, he developed an indelible impression in childhood that having a baby killled his mother.

The island has absorbed this belief, and now babies do kill their mothers.

lostlocke
05-10-2007, 08:03 AM
The reason why mothers die on the island is because Ben believes deep down that he killed his mother. No matter how rationally he may think about it as an adult, he developed an indelible impression in childhood that having a baby killled his mother.

The island has absorbed this belief, and now babies do kill their mothers.

don't know if this theory holds up, after all, it not only seems to kill the mothers, but the fetus as well. They don't live long enough to give birth to a healthy baby.

bubblyone
05-10-2007, 09:40 AM
I wonder if the mums and bubs have always died or if if its only been since the purge???

Cluck
05-10-2007, 09:50 AM
The reason why mothers die on the island is because Ben believes deep down that he killed his mother. No matter how rationally he may think about it as an adult, he developed an indelible impression in childhood that having a baby killled his mother.

The island has absorbed this belief, and now babies do kill their mothers.

This is totally what crossed my mind. I think they made it pretty obvious too that this is the case.

BioGator
05-10-2007, 09:52 AM
How long did Juliet say the pregos make it before they die? Did she say 7 months? That is when Ben was born, 7 months.

Im Puzzled
05-10-2007, 10:05 AM
I am of the opinion that the island manafests thoughts. Good or bad ones. And Ben manafesting the women not makeing it to their 3rd trimester (which is 7 to 9 months) fits in neetly with him being born at 7 months and his mother dying. I think His past issues are creating this situation.
Looks like Ben killing his father didnt do what it was supposta do and free him from his past.

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Im Puzzled
Disclaimer: My opinin is subject to change depending on what happenes next week.

bubblyone
05-10-2007, 10:45 AM
I am of the opinion that the island manafests thoughts. Good or bad ones. And Ben manafesting the women not makeing it to their 3rd trimester (which is 7 to 9 months) fits in neetly with him being born at 7 months and his mother dying. I think His past issues are creating this situation.
Looks like Ben killing his father didnt do what it was supposta do and free him from his past.

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I really like this theory...

BioGator
05-10-2007, 12:58 PM
That makes me wonder if Sun 7th month of pregnancy, the end of the show and Ben's death are all going to come at the same time.

Claudia815
05-10-2007, 01:09 PM
You can't see it, but I'm willing to bet that adorable newborn was sprouting horns. :biggrin:

If I'm not mistaken, Juliet said most pregnant women do not make it past the second trimester.

Frickin' server, I've had to type this three times...

Madge
05-10-2007, 01:25 PM
don't know if this theory holds up, after all, it not only seems to kill the mothers, but the fetus as well. They don't live long enough to give birth to a healthy baby.

Well, couldn't Roger have manifested his anger on Ben to the babies?
I don't know, but I do like the connection of Ben being the reason women can't give birth.
It's quite a coincidence.

lostcompletely
05-21-2007, 11:08 PM
just a quick note of kudos, this is a very intriguing notice! It does seem like they have made a strong correlation between it all - and it reminds me of Walt and the bird flying into the window...hmmmmm sooooo curious! :)

Panayioti
05-25-2007, 04:36 PM
Here is some info on the Ben of the Bible and a very errie connection with the overall Lost story:
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His (Benjanine's) birth took place on the road between Bethel and Ephrath, which is identified with Bethlehem (Genesis 35:19). His mother Rachel died in childbirth, and with her last breath named him Ben-oni ("son of my pain"), an ill-omened name which was changed by his father into Binyamin. His posterity were the tribe of Benjamin (http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Tribe_of_Benjamin&action=edit), sometimes translated "Benjamites" (Genesis 49:27; Deuteronomy 33:12; Joshua 18:21).
The tribe of Benjamin at the Exodus (http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Exodus&action=edit) was the smallest aside from Manasseh (http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Tribe_of_Manasseh&action=edit), which was split off from Joseph (http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Tribe_of_Joseph&action=edit) (Numbers 1:34-1:37; Psalms 68:27). During the march its place was along with Manasseh (http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Manasseh&action=edit) and Ephraim (http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Ephraim&action=edit) on the west of the tabernacle (http://orthodoxwiki.org/Tabernacle_%28biblical%29). At the entrance into Canaan (http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Canaan&action=edit) it counted 45,600 warriors. It has been inferred by some from the words of Jacob (Genesis 49:27) that the figure of a wolf was on the tribal standard: "Benjamin is a wolf that raveneth; in the morning he shall devour the prey, at evening he shall divide the spoil."
This tribe is mentioned in Epistle to the Romans (http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Romans&action=edit) 11:1 and Philippians (http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Philippians&action=edit) 3:5.
The inheritance of this tribe lay immediately to the south of that of Ephraim (http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Ephraim&action=edit), and was about 26 miles in length and 12 in breadth. Its eastern boundary was the Jordan (http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Jordan&action=edit). Dan (http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Tribe_of_Dan&action=edit) intervened between it and the Philistines (http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Philistines&action=edit). Its chief towns are named in Josh. (http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Book_of_Joshua&action=edit) 18:21-28.
The history of the tribe contains a sad record of a desolating civil war in which they were engaged with the other eleven tribes; they were almost exterminated (Judg. 20:20, 21; 21:10).
The first king of the Jews was Saul (http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Saul&action=edit), a Benjamite. A close alliance was formed between this tribe and that of Judah (http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Tribe_of_Judah&action=edit) in the time of David (http://orthodoxwiki.org/David) (2 Sam. (http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Books_of_Samuel&action=edit) 19:16, 17), which continued after his death (1 Kings (http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Books_of_Kings&action=edit) 11:13; 12:20). After the Exile (http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Babylonian_captivity&action=edit) these two tribes formed the great body of the Jewish nation (Ezra 1:5; 10:9), and to this day the other ten are referred to as the lost tribes of Israel (http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Lost_tribes_of_Israel&action=edit). The tribe of Benjamin was famous for its archers (1 Sam. (http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Books_of_Samuel&action=edit) 20:20, 36; 2 Sam. (http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Books_of_Samuel&action=edit) 1:22; 1 Chr. (http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Books_of_Chronicles&action=edit) 8:40; 12:2) and slingers (Judges (http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Book_of_Judges&action=edit) 20:6).
The gate of Benjamin, on the north side of Jerusalem (http://orthodoxwiki.org/Jerusalem) (Jer. 37:13; 38:7; Zech. 14:10), was so called because it led in the direction of the territory of the tribe of Benjamin. It is called by Jeremiah (http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Jeremiah_%28prophet%29&action=edit) (20:2) "the high gate of Benjamin"; also "the gate of the children of the people" (17:19). (Comp. 2 Kings 14:13.)

Crack open those Bibles as I think the shows producers are giving us Bible stories warmed over. Maybe.

Jack Sawyer
06-17-2007, 08:30 PM
The Lost Tribe of Israel?