The "painting" in Jacob's cabin is not a dog. It's a partially obscured image that sort of looks like a dog... a little. Have a look:

The right "paw" is indistinct and mis-shapen.
The "eyes" are not the same size nor at the same level.
The framing of the "painting" would cut the "dog" in half. Not good art.
While it somewhat resembles an Irish Wolfhound, this breed is not found in white.
It's either very impressionistic or just not very good.
The blue of the background wanders into the body of the "dog."
The "dog" has no chin nor mouth.
The nose is the wrong shape.
No ears.

What if one were to speculate that the blue is the sea, the white puffy stuff is clouds and the three dark areas are islands...as viewed from above??

It looks like a dog here: http://gallery.lost-media.com/displayimage-1287-490.html
and its right front paw is flexed.

It almost looks like a human arm. Maybe it's sitting on a person's lap?

Well, looks like further proof that Walt is Jacob!
...or maybe Vincent is Jacob. Either way, they are clearly playing on the Dog
conspiracy theories.

Also made me think of Ben's painting in his room at the barracks. Same kind of semi-surreal animal portrait

Well, looks like further proof that Walt is Jacob!
...or maybe Vincent is Jacob. Either way, they are clearly playing on the Dog
conspiracy theories.

Also made me think of Ben's painting in his room at the barracks. Same kind of semi-surreal animal portrait


Gives one the feeling that Jacob has dominion over animals. Perhaps they are his
eyes and ears when he is locked up in his cabin and he is not as incapacitated as
Ben thinks he is.

The "painting" in Jacob's cabin is not a dog. It's a partially obscured image that sort of looks like a dog... a little. Have a look:

The right "paw" is indistinct and mis-shapen.
The "eyes" are not the same size nor at the same level.
The framing of the "painting" would cut the "dog" in half. Not good art.
While it somewhat resembles an Irish Wolfhound, this breed is not found in white.
It's either very impressionistic or just not very good.
The blue of the background wanders into the body of the "dog."
The "dog" has no chin nor mouth.
The nose is the wrong shape.
No ears.

What if one were to speculate that the blue is the sea, the white puffy stuff is clouds and the three dark areas are islands...as viewed from above??


It's definitely a dog. How could you say it looks like anything else.

Gives one the feeling that Jacob has dominion over animals. Perhaps they are his
eyes and ears when he is locked up in his cabin and he is not as incapacitated as
Ben thinks he is.

...four-toed foot statue comes to mind as well.

I definitely got the 'Vincent' vibe when watching the Ep.

It's quite impressionistic... maybe Vincent as seen reflected in something or through a dog's eyes.

It is Vincent.

No coincidence that it resembles Vincent, but I don't know if that says anything about Vincent.

No coincidence that it resembles Vincent, but I don't know if that says anything about Vincent.

The dog in the painting looks like a Terrier breed. Maybe an Airedale. Vincent is a lab/retriever. Just because they walk on four legs and bark, doesn't mean they resemble each other.

I don't think it's Vincent. It looks like an entirely different breed of dog to me.

I think what people are calling a misshapen right leg or a human leg is some sort of dead animal at its feet, perhaps a fox.

Dog named Vincent...famous painter named Vincent...possible connection? Seems like a few are named after famous people....

Its a dog. I downloaded the pic & lightened it up w/ Adobe. Its a painting renedered in a somewhat impressionistic style & it looks very much like Vincent. Its paws are crossed. (I never look at the word dog without thinking of it how its spelled backwards - god. Dogs do give us unconditional love as I believe my higher power does & I would go truly nuts if I didn't have my own dog in my life. :) )

Also there is a black shadow vertically on the left side of the dog. To me it looks like a column of dark smoke - not unlike Smokey. It looks as if its been painted into the picture as it seems to stop at the top & bottom of the canvas although a little of the shadow is on the lower part of the frame. In that case this could just be a shadow of something falling across the painting but its hard to tell where such strong light could be coming from to cast a shadow like that.

I'll try to get a photo hosting place soon so ppl can see what I'm saying....

I don't know why but the painting seems familiar (from real life not from the show). It seems to be a 19th century style portrait. Perhaps Jacob is the Captain or one of the crew from the ship. Alvar Hanso?

it looks similar to a swap card I had when I was a kid

I posted this in another thread but it seems relative here. It wasn't unusal for the very rich in the 1800's to have portraits of their dogs painted. When I saw this painted I thought for sure it came off the Black Rock and was maybe the captains dog? It looks to me with those big jowels hanging down that it's either a Mastiff or a blood hound. I think their both English dogs. You have to remember that if this potrait was painted in the 1800's the dogs breed may not look exactly like the breed looks today. Breeders take the dogs with the Best Traits they have for whatever their job is and breed them. So a Mastiff in the 1800's may not look exactly like a Mastiff today but very similar. Yeah, I watch a lot of dog shows. Anyway, a mastiff is my guess, heres a pic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Mastiff_2.jpg

Anyone have any thoughts on the painting they showed in Jacob's shack?

This was the best screenshot I could find on Lost Media:

http://gallery.lost-media.com/displayimage-1287-490.html

It looked pretty creepy, and I really couldn't make out what it was after only one viewing.

Any significance? thoughts?

My first thought was that it was a dog (NOT playing Poker!) Perhaps Locke's dog from childhood? What about those creepy jars?

It does look like Vincent in this shot, to me anyway. I thought it was a different breed at first, but it could be Vincent.


http://bp1.blogger.com/_RrObyQ3XzcY/RkL0BJsh6_I/AAAAAAAAFWE/T6OCv8Ne0s0/s1600-h/dog2.jpg

Oh yeah, what were those?!? I looked at it again, and it looks like the poster colors are find of running. Almost looks like the top could be a saint bernard, or maybe a YELLOW LAB.

maybe it's a mutant polar bear
/me rolls eyes

In that screenshot from above, it looks most like a bloodhound, which Vincent was not.

I think it does look like Vince lifting his head up a bit. This is a good question for the creators, Is that Vincent or some other dog?

I still think it is Vincent, the lighting of the painting isn't all that great, I do not think they made it clear enough to prove it is vincent, but it is close enough for us to debate it, therefore I would wager on the side of it being Vincent. Perhaps Jacob manifests actions through paintings somehow, which is why Vincent has been helping the LOSTies. It almost looks as the water has made the paint run some, thereby giving it more of a bloodhound jow look, but if you just focus on the overall shape, coloring it IMO is definitely a lab, ie Vincent. Besides why would the have a painting of a never before seen dog? I am sticking with Vincent on this one. =)

I still think it is Vincent, the lighting of the painting isn't all that great, I do not think they made it clear enough to prove it is vincent, but it is close enough for us to debate it, therefore I would wager on the side of it being Vincent. Perhaps Jacob manifests actions through paintings somehow, which is why Vincent has been helping the LOSTies. It almost looks as the water has made the paint run some, thereby giving it more of a bloodhound jow look, but if you just focus on the overall shape, coloring it IMO is definitely a lab, ie Vincent. Besides why would the have a painting of a never before seen dog? I am sticking with Vincent on this one. =)

I'm with you there pal!

So, for giggles, let's say it is Vincent. Is he really Jacob's dog? How did he get to Australia with Walt?

Looked like a giant schnauzer to me.

It's Vincent! It has to be Vincent!

as much as I'd like this to be Vincent it looks more like a Lhasa Apso but with much longer front legs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lhasa_Apso

It looks like a blood hound/fox hound cross breed.

It's a St. Bernard. That's what I saw when watching live, and that's what I see from the screenshots posted here.

It looks like a large flappy muzzled dog to me--like a bloodhound, St. Bernard, or mastiff.

Sure looks like a hound to me.

It's Vincent! It has to be Vincent!

An older Vincent.

It was very strange (the whole scene really), but I knew right away it was a dog. And they showed it for a couple seconds so it has to be important...right???

According to Lostpedia here http://lostpedia.com/wiki/Main_Page (you have to look in the lower right corner under easter eggs) it is executive producers dog Lulu seen here http://lostpedia.com/wiki/Lulu

The producer's dog has it's own Wikipedia page? Wow.

ETA
Ah, Lostpedia page. That makes a little more sense.

Well, it does look like that dog, especially her whiskers.

That would have to be one huge paw! I think its a big foot with 4 toes.

Can anyone make out what this picture is? http://gallery.lost-media.com/displayimage-1287-490.html

The camera pauses on it in the scene, which led me to wonder if it was meaningful. When I enlarge it, it looks like a big fluffy dog. Maybe Vincent's dad? :biggrin:

Its definatly a dog. But its not a yellow lab. I dont know much about dogs so i don't know what kind it is.

I'm surprised it's wasn't a picture of a retriever... of truth. ;)

An older Vincent? Interesting.

I thought Jacob himself came off sort of like some form of "the picture of Dorian Gray" or something.

Maybe that's why Richard is still so young. Perhaps Jacob isn't their leader, but the reflection of their souls.

I'm surprised it's wasn't a picture of a retriever... of truth. ;)


Ha! :biggrin: Truth, with Ben in the room? :rolleyes:

Thanks for confirming it's a dog. I know it's not the same kind as Vincent - I was joking. It's a big, shaggy dog, very disneyesque. If you enlarge the pic, you can see that the dog has his hand out, as if he's going to shake hands. Weird pose. Maybe it was Jacob's dog?

It's A Dog. Move On.

It is Vincent.



I SWEAR if one just one persons says "whats that vincent someones trapped down the well" ,i'll never watch this program again ;)

PuppyThor looked at it and he says, "Woof rrrrrrroof!" That means, "It's a dog."
KittyThor agrees.

Irish Wolf Hound - that's my vote.

they are big - shaggy - have been around for a long time - come in all sorts of colors - and have a long face like the painting.

nvm... it's that one guys dog like the other poster said. doo do doooo.... *goes on my merry way.

It was creepy like everything else in that room.

As Locke got older on the Island, he decided to paint Vincent, before he warped back in time, became Jacob, and set up shop in the cabin to start giving orders to Ben.

It's A Dog. Move On.

Normally, I would agree with you, but the camera lingered far too long on the painting for it to mean nothing.

I think it's a luck dragon from the Neverending Story 3
http://www.badmovies.org/movies/neverendingiii/neverendingiii3.jpg
You know because Lost is a never ending story lol
But seriously, it does look like the producer's dog. Too bad, because I hoped it was a clue.

I will spoiler font this whole thing, but it all goes back to, I think season one, and that flight815 website...remember the little easter eggs? Well,
At one point, a discarded piece of script popped up, it was all over the lage, and other sites, once everyone cracked it. There was hand writing in the margin, pointing to what would be a description of smokey. The writing read "no, not yet...no mapinguari"
So, if you google that image, that's exactly what you get, or used to get, anyway...that exact image...so now we know who/at that is.
I will google again. IF I find it, will post here.
www.lostpedia.com/.../180px-Mapinguari.jpg (http://www.lostpedia.com/.../180px-Mapinguari.jpg)
Anyone recall this image and what it says?
See the pic of the mapinguari?
I'm trying to find the one that is almost identical to the one in the psyco shack/ aka Jacob's house
Here's some more; www.volny.cz (http://www.volny.cz)
www.criptozoologia.blogger.com.br (http://www.criptozoologia.blogger.com.br)
www.escalofrio.com (http://www.escalofrio.com)

I will spoiler font this whole thing, but it all goes back to, I think season one, and that flight815 website...remember the little easter eggs? Well,
At one point, a discarded piece of script popped up, it was all over the lage, and other sites, once everyone cracked it. There was hand writing in the margin, pointing to what would be a description of smokey. The writing read "no, not yet...no mapinguari"
So, if you google that image, that's exactly what you get, or used to get, anyway...that exact image...so now we know who/at that is.
I will google again. IF I find it, will post here.
www.lostpedia.com/.../180px-Mapinguari.jpg (http://www.lostpedia.com/.../180px-Mapinguari.jpg)
Anyone recall this image and what it says?
See the pic of the mapinguari?
I'm trying to find the one that is almost identical to the one in the psyco shack/ aka Jacob's house
Here's some more; www.volny.cz (http://www.volny.cz)
www.criptozoologia.blogger.com.br (http://www.criptozoologia.blogger.com.br)
www.escalofrio.com (http://www.escalofrio.com)

Hmm yea, it makes more sense as a "mapinguari" than a dog.
http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Mapinguari

It IS Vincent. I knew it.

Vincent probably crashed the plane. (just kidding, refference to an old thread)

It's Old Yeller! :cool:


Hold me closer, Ed, it's getting dark. Tell Auntie Em to let Old Yeller out,
[cough cough]... tell Tiny Tim I won't be coming home this Christmas, tell Scarlett I do give a damn...

It could be a furry dog but from that photo on lost media it to me looks like some kind of black faced monkey from a national geographic show.. Showing its face chest and arms.
I also saw another picture of it that looked more like a racoon.

~~~
Im Puzzled..

Her name is "Lulu" and she is Jack Bender's dog. Apparently she "knows all the secrets."

Check it out at Lostpedia: [ http://lostpedia.com/wiki/Lulu ]

It's a St. Bernard. That's what I saw when watching live, and that's what I see from the screenshots posted here.


I agree, maybe it is a homage to Stephen King's Cujo....

It looks like this :
http://www.allposters.com/gallery.asp?aid=423764051&c=c&search=19404&cat=622&GCID=s15100x001%2DOthers&KEYWORD=St%2E+Bernard+prints

Page 4 , middle of the first line of prints.

i was thinking that maybe jacob takes on vincent's body when he wants to leave the cabin because he is somehow trapped in there ben and his gunpowder. That would explain why Vincent seems to come out of nowhere when something is going to happen.

Vincent is NOT the dog in the painting, if you think so get your eyes checked.

/sorry If this was mean at all, but this is just a silly idea.
//I will get slashies to catch on with the 'lage'ers'

I SWEAR if one just one persons says "whats that vincent someones trapped down the well" ,i'll never watch this program again ;)

You just might have to change your Wed. night viewing habits if Vincent finds Locke bleeding to death in the open grave. ;)

The "painting" in Jacob's cabin is not a dog. It's a partially obscured image that sort of looks like a dog... a little. Have a look:

The right "paw" is indistinct and mis-shapen.
The "eyes" are not the same size nor at the same level.
The framing of the "painting" would cut the "dog" in half. Not good art.
While it somewhat resembles an Irish Wolfhound, this breed is not found in white.
It's either very impressionistic or just not very good.
The blue of the background wanders into the body of the "dog."
The "dog" has no chin nor mouth.
The nose is the wrong shape.
No ears.

What if one were to speculate that the blue is the sea, the white puffy stuff is clouds and the three dark areas are islands...as viewed from above??

yeah, that's definitely a dog in the painting. Looks almost like a white version of a neopolitan mastiff or something. The paws- looks like the dog has his paws crossed one over the other and that's why it looks oddly shaped.

Looks like a St. Bernard, with the jowls...The dogs have been popular since the 17th century, according to their wiki...also makes sense given all the religious connotations.

second Q.
Is the dog "holding" something?
A staff of dagger? a phuba?

But seriously, it does look like the producer's dog. Too bad, because I hoped it was a clue.Well, just because the painting features the producer's dog doesn't mean it's not a clue. :) It pretty much means the painting isn't of Vincent. But other than that, it could turn out to be some other significant dog...

In the podcast Damon mentioned this episode being "A Tivo Episode" and a thread like this really proves that to a very serious degree. We have grown men and women arguing over what they see, plain as day, to be a painting of a dog.

How does this mean anything beyond the fact that Jacob has a painting of a dog in his shack??? He also had a wood burning stove, what does THAT mean????? He hates trees? Could it be Jacob instructing smokey to destroy the trees on the island?

I'm kidding.

Here is a good pic of:
VINCENT (http://www.tvnorge.no/bilder/01/17/66/53/LOST_Y1_3E_LNone.jpg)

Honestly, I don't think that Vincent is the subject in the painting.

It ain't nothin' but a hound dog.

This dog looks nothing like Vincent. To me, this dog appears to have bigger jowls than a golden retriever (or whatever breed Vincent is), it's jowls more closely resemble that of a St. Bernard's as had been mentioned.

I also definitely do not think it looks ANYTHING like the producer's dog Lulu. Lulu is just another dog that is tied into the show and people want to know what the dog in the painting is so they're trying to attribute it to any known canine.

I do think this probably confirms, as most people have concluded, that Vincent is important but maybe not just because he is Vincent, but because he is a dog. Does that make sense?

Anyhow, my two cents: Not Vincent. Not Lulu.

Hmm yea, it makes more sense as a "mapinguari" than a dog.
http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Mapinguari

You know, if you search out of the realm of Lost, there are many variations of mapinguari, which it's about 70% giant slothy looking things, 10% anteater/ardvaark looking things, and the rest are kinda doggy looking things.
Why are they hiding the back part of the painting? Why does this dog's face look like an Irish Wolf Hound, but his paw and leg are rediculously out of proportion with his head?

I also definitely do not think it looks ANYTHING like the producer's dog Lulu. Lulu is just another dog that is tied into the show and people want to know what the dog in the painting is so they're trying to attribute it to any known canine.It's not that viewers are claiming the painting is of Lulu... it's that the folks on Lost have stated it's a painting of Lulu. It's not a theory. The painting (in real life) is a painting of Lulu. :)

However...
How does this mean anything beyond the fact that Jacob has a painting of a dog in his shack??? He also had a wood burning stove, what does THAT mean????? He hates trees?I think the significance of the dog painting doesn't stem simply from the fact that it was in Jacob's shack... it stems from the fact that we're shown Locke deliberating taking note of it. There's a camera shot from Locke's POV focused directly on the dog painting. There's no such "weight" placed on the wood burning stove.

TPTB wanted to make sure we noted the dog painting. I guess that could just be a desire for Lulu to get screen time. ;) But I think it's more likely that for some reason they wanted us to note specifically that Jacob has a painting of a dog in his shack.

He also had a wood burning stove, what does THAT mean????? .

BTW, why would someone have a wood burning stove in a little wood cabin in the middle of a HOT HUMID TROPICAL island?
IF the argument is for cooking purposes, well, in that HOT climate, who would irritate the heat of the house by cooking in it?
Unless, of course, a very long time ago, it use to be a colder place.
There are very little windows in the cabin. Also to note.

I'm sure Lulu was the model for the painting, though that does'nt tell us much.

I immediately thought 'why the stove on a hot tropical island?' too. It's out of place.

I immediately thought 'why the stove on a hot tropical island?' too. It's out of place.

because Jacob is cold, so cold....

LOL j/k

I think the st. bernard dog most fits the look of the painting. if that's truly a portrait of lulu, i wouldn't be visiting that artist again anytime soon!!! :rolleyes:

did jacob have any other decorations, other than the crrrrreepy jars? i don't remember any, which leads me to agree that this isn't just a painting he likes. i got dorian grey vibes from it, like someone else mentioned somewhere on this thread, just because it looks so old and because the lighting on it was so creepy. i don't necessarily think it's vincent's "dorian grey portrait," because that's just too many strings to pull as he belonged to walt's mom's boyfriend in australia.

why lulu, why???

oh, and did anyone notice on lostpedia that lulu was featured in one of eko's flashbacks? i doubt there's a connection, but we've nothing else go to on yet, except that dogs only have four toes....

okay, time to stop rambling now!

Someone mentioned Locke's dog. The story went that Locke's sister died and shortly thereafter, the dog shows up...starts sleeping in Locke's sisters bed...Locke's mom felt that it was his sister's way of telling her that she was alright.

How could this tie in? is it possible that Locke's childhood was spent on the island...playing Mousetrap with his brother...etc????

Was he possibly too young to realize where he was at the time? Is that why he has such a communion with the island?

Didn't Locke's sister die playing on a playground? Could it have been the playground at the Barracks?

I just feel that there is more to the story of young Locke...and the fact that they show this dog picture (an obvious clue) during one of the most important developements for Locke since he crashed...something's up.

Remember the painting of a dog in Jacob's cabin?

They just found out who painted it. Check it out at Lostpedia on the main page. There is a link for more info.

Lostpedia main page: [ http://lostpedia.com/wiki/Main_Page ]

Jacob's Dog Painting: [ http://lostpedia.com/wiki/Jacob%27s_painting ]

I don't think there are any clues in the painting. Or are there? Hmmm.

I find these theories very interesting:

As Locke got older on the Island, he decided to paint Vincent, before he warped back in time, became Jacob, and set up shop in the cabin to start giving orders to Ben.

Someone mentioned Locke's dog. The story went that Locke's sister died and shortly thereafter, the dog shows up...starts sleeping in Locke's sisters bed...Locke's mom felt that it was his sister's way of telling her that she was alright.

How could this tie in? is it possible that Locke's childhood was spent on the island...playing Mousetrap with his brother...etc????

Was he possibly too young to realize where he was at the time? Is that why he has such a communion with the island?

Didn't Locke's sister die playing on a playground? Could it have been the playground at the Barracks?



I'd like to combine them. Maybe Jacob is indeed old Locke, and maybe he painted the dog which appeared after the death of his sister; this might have something to do with the idea of his mom that the dog is Locke's sister. In case Jacob IS old Locke it wouldnt be surprising that this entire thing is still on his mind.

The right "paw" is indistinct and mis-shapen.
The "eyes" are not the same size nor at the same level.
The framing of the "painting" would cut the "dog" in half. Not good art.
While it somewhat resembles an Irish Wolfhound, this breed is not found in white.
It's either very impressionistic or just not very good.
The blue of the background wanders into the body of the "dog."
The "dog" has no chin nor mouth.
The nose is the wrong shape.
No ears.

You're quite right.
The dog is "missing parts", seems to be "fading". Sound familiar? Martha Toomey, Farmer Ray, Candle Man, Montand, Jacob.
a la Marty McFly and family in Back to the Future.

darn it! you guy have me thinking about Jaws now: "It only looks like an island if you see it from the sea"

unless you knew you were on an island... how'd you tell?