Well hey now! What is it and why does Sayid know where it is? :confused:

Sayid has the information books from the flame and he knows where the cord runs into the water

My best guess is its at the end of that cable into the ocean

Oh, right! I'd forgotten about the info he took from the Flame - I was wondering where he got those schematics from.

Sayid has the information books from the flame and he knows where the cord runs into the water
I gotta stop posting until I've seen the whole epi...lol

Sorry for the double post but

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Looking-Glass_%28March%29

The Looking-Glass is a 1943 novel by William March. A continuation of his "Pearl County" series of novels and short stories, it is considered by many to be his greatest work. Originally titled "Kneel to the Prettiest".
[edit]Plot summary

Set in the mythical town of "Reedyville", The Looking-Glass is a mosaic of multiple character stories and histories, interwoven in a non-linear fashion. It has often been described as prescribing to the Spoon River style of story-telling, with it's multiple character studies.

also:
Spoon River Anthology (1915), by Edgar Lee Masters, is a collection of unusual, short, free-form poems that collectively describe the life of the fictional small town of Spoon River, named after the real Spoon River that ran near Masters' hometown. The collection includes two hundred and twelve separate characters, all providing two-hundred forty-four soliloquies.
Each poem is an epitaph of a dead citizen, delivered by the dead themselves. They speak about the sorts of things one might expect. Some recite their histories and turning points, others make observations of life from the outside, and petty ones complain of the treatment of their graves, while few tell how they really died. Speaking without reason to lie or fear the consequences, they construct a picture of life in their town that is shorn of all facades. The interplay of various villagers — e.g. a bright and successful man crediting his parents for all he's accomplished, and an old woman weeping because he is secretly her illegitimate child — forms a gripping, if not pretty, whole.
The subject of afterlife receives only the occasional brief mention, and even those seem to be contradictory.
The work features such characters as Tom Merritt, Amos Sibley, Carl Hamblin, Fiddler Jones and A.D. Blood. Many of the characters that make appearances in Spoon River Anthology were based on real people that Masters knew or heard of in the two towns in which he grew up, Petersburg and Lewistown, Illinois. Most notable is Ann Rutledge, regarded in local legend to be Abraham Lincoln's early love interest though there is no actual proof of such a relationship. Rutledge's grave can still be found in a Petersburg cemetery, and a tour of graveyards in both towns reveals most of the surnames that Masters applied to his characters.
Other local legends assert that Masters' fictional portrayal of local residents, often in unflattering lights, created a lot of embarrassment and aggravation in his hometowns. This is offered as an explanation for why he chose not to settle down in Lewistown or Petersburg.

Interesting... I hear 'the looking glass' and immediately think Alice in Wonderland.

It's definitely an Alice in Wonderland reference, to go along with White Rabbit. And since Through the Looking Glass is next week's ep, and it's also Jack's, it makes sense!
As for what it is on the show, it definitely should be where the sonar is, the one that is malfunctioning due to the EM.

Who wants to bet that Joanna is down there!?
100%
Through the Looking-Glass, and What Alice Found There (1871 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1871)) is a work of children's literature (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children%27s_literature) by Lewis Carroll (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Carroll) (Charles Lutwidge Dodgson), generally categorized as literary nonsense (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literary_nonsense). It is the sequel to Alice's Adventures in Wonderland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice%27s_Adventures_in_Wonderland), although it makes no reference to its events. In it, there are many mirror themes, including opposites, time running backwards, and so on.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Through_the_Looking-Glass

I've been waiting on that since season 1. For me, this was a big answer to one of my biggest questions.

I'm really starting to think the entire island, everything is in an underwater cavern, with the point of access being the Looking Glass

Here's some wiki references for "looking glass"
Looking Glass may refer to:

Looking glass is another term for mirror (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirror).
Looking Glass is a codename for the E-6B (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-6_Mercury) United States Air Force (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Air_Force) Strategic Command's Airborne Nuclear Command Post (ABNCP)
Boeing EC-135 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_EC-135#Looking_Glass)
Looking Glass (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Looking_Glass_%28band%29) is a 1970s pop music group best known for their hit songs "Brandy (You're A Fine Girl)" and "Jimmy Loves Mary-Anne".
Looking-Glass Self (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Looking_glass_self): An interactionist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interactionism) sociological concept.
Through the Looking-Glass, and What Alice Found There (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Through_the_Looking-Glass) is a children's book written by Lewis Carroll (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Carroll) as a sequel to Alice's Adventures in Wonderland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice%27s_Adventures_in_Wonderland).
Looking Glass Studios (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Looking_Glass_Studios) was a computer game (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_game) developer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_developer).
The Looking Glass Society is a non-profit organisation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-profit_organization) dedicated to promoting understanding and acceptance of transsexual (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transsexual)/gender dysphoric (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_dysphoric) people.
Project Looking Glass (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Looking_Glass) is a project aiming to create 3D desktop conducted by Sun Microsystems (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Microsystems).
Looking Glass Servers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Looking_Glass_Servers) are publicly accessible servers for performing routing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Routing) queries, used to troubleshoot routing issues across the Internet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet).
Looking Glass Township is a subdivision of Clinton County, Illinois. http://www.clintonco.org/townships_county.htm
Looking Glass Rock (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Looking_Glass_Rock) is a large monolith (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monolith) located in Transylvania County (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transylvania_County%2C_North_Carolina), North Carolina, USA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Carolina)
Looking Glass (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Looking_Glass_%28person%29) was a Nez Percé (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nez_Perc%C3%A9) war leader.
Looking Glass (short film) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Looking_Glass_%28short_film%29) A 2007 short film at Cannes
Looking Glass Workshop (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Looking_Glass_Workshop) is a Philadelphia based art/music collective

I can't wait to get the new Dharma White Rabbit Looking Glass hatch logo t-shirt.

I'm looking forward to the screen cap of the hatch diagram as well.

Woah

Looking Glass is Mirror

and in movies it is almost always about an alternate reality

Fascinating.

Why and how would they be jamming radio signals from the water?

I think this Looking Glass place might be the entry way to the island

I'm really starting to think the entire island, everything is in an underwater cavern, with the point of access being the Looking Glass

That's an interesting idea. So, it would be like a giant snow globe actually, with air in it as well?

Did she say Snow Globe????? I thought that and purgatory was banned from the boards?

I'm really starting to think the entire island, everything is in an underwater cavern, with the point of access being the Looking Glass

Here's some wiki references for "looking glass"
Looking Glass may refer to:

Looking glass is another term for mirror (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirror).
Looking Glass is a codename for the E-6B (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-6_Mercury) United States Air Force (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Air_Force) Strategic Command's Airborne Nuclear Command Post (ABNCP)
Boeing EC-135 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_EC-135#Looking_Glass)
Looking Glass (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Looking_Glass_%28band%29) is a 1970s pop music group best known for their hit songs "Brandy (You're A Fine Girl)" and "Jimmy Loves Mary-Anne".
Looking-Glass Self (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Looking_glass_self): An interactionist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interactionism) sociological concept.
Through the Looking-Glass, and What Alice Found There (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Through_the_Looking-Glass) is a children's book written by Lewis Carroll (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Carroll) as a sequel to Alice's Adventures in Wonderland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice%27s_Adventures_in_Wonderland).
Looking Glass Studios (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Looking_Glass_Studios) was a computer game (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_game) developer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_developer).
The Looking Glass Society is a non-profit organisation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-profit_organization) dedicated to promoting understanding and acceptance of transsexual (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transsexual)/gender dysphoric (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_dysphoric) people.
Project Looking Glass (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Looking_Glass) is a project aiming to create 3D desktop conducted by Sun Microsystems (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Microsystems).
Looking Glass Servers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Looking_Glass_Servers) are publicly accessible servers for performing routing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Routing) queries, used to troubleshoot routing issues across the Internet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet).
Looking Glass Township is a subdivision of Clinton County, Illinois. http://www.clintonco.org/townships_county.htm
Looking Glass Rock (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Looking_Glass_Rock) is a large monolith (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monolith) located in Transylvania County (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transylvania_County%2C_North_Carolina), North Carolina, USA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Carolina)
Looking Glass (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Looking_Glass_%28person%29) was a Nez Percé (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nez_Perc%C3%A9) war leader.
Looking Glass (short film) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Looking_Glass_%28short_film%29) A 2007 short film at Cannes
Looking Glass Workshop (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Looking_Glass_Workshop) is a Philadelphia based art/music collective


If you're going to list every Looking Glass there is, don't forget Chicago's wonderful Lookingglass Theatre, the theatrical home of the fabulous Mary Zimmerman, official MacArthur genius and set designer/director extraordinaire. Her version of Ovid's Metamorphoses played on Broadway and won her a 2002 Tony Award.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Zimmerman

I'm really starting to think the entire island, everything is in an underwater cavern, with the point of access being the Looking Glass



Ame en Peine, interesting idea, but I have a question, and I am sincerely asking, not busting your chops! :)

If they're in a big snowglobe underwater, or a cavern or what have you, what's up with the sun, the moon the stars, fresh air, weather patterns, clouds, rain, etc?

As for what it is on the show, it definitely should be where the sonar is, the one that is malfunctioning due to the EM.

Who wants to bet that Joanna is down there!?

I definitely agree about that being where the sonar is. Maybe it's called the looking glass because you can see anything within a certain radius of the island and take precautions to make sure they don't find the island or that they crash there. Maybe it's some sort of filtering system of who comes to the island and who doesn't.

I totally forgot about Joanna! I bet you're absolutely right! It's been speculated forever that she might've ended up in some sort of underwater hatch. Most people assumed that the hydra was the underwater hatch, and didn't think that there might be more than one.

Sorry for the double post but

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Looking-Glass_%28March%29


Oh my goodness! Thank you for this! I saw this as a play in college, but I think it was titled "Spoon River" so I never made the connection! What a great tie in and I'm sure it's intentional! But that also makes Naomi's statements have a little more validity.. however, I still believe that the "dead bodies" is a cover up of some kind! Unless the wild cloning theories are true and the "dead bodies" are clones... but there's no way to have the spare bodies that quickly unless we're revisiting Alias's form of faux-cloning!

Anyhow, I digress!

Sorry to be such an on-again, off-again lurker and almost never post!

it would be cool if it were Joanna, but I think she drowned near where the Losties have their camp. the Looking Glass is further down the beach. but who knows??

If you look at a close up...I think it's on darkufo...sorry I don't have it handy but there's a little caption saying Control Room - shark something observation room or something like that. Anyway reminds me of the shark from Mike and Sawyer on the raft...it had a Dharma logo and all.

That's an interesting idea. So, it would be like a giant snow globe actually, with air in it as well?Kind of. A good analogy would be the Moon Pool in the Looking Glass hatch.. Technically it's underwater, yet when you go up the hatch there's air and a liveable environment.

If you're going to list every Looking Glass there is, don't forget Chicago's wonderful Lookingglass Theatre, the theatrical home of the fabulous Mary Zimmerman, official MacArthur genius and set designer/director extraordinaire. Her version of Ovid's Metamorphoses played on Broadway and won her a 2002 Tony Award.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Zimmerman
You're being cheeky, aren't you... :kiss:

Ame en Peine, interesting idea, but I have a question, and I am sincerely asking, not busting your chops! :)

If they're in a big snowglobe underwater, or a cavern or what have you, what's up with the sun, the moon the stars, fresh air, weather patterns, clouds, rain, etc?No problem, bust away.. I know, it's insane. I don't even trust myself with theories sometimes... :) And really, I'm not even fully on board with this.. more thinking out loud. But ok, let's assume they are technically underwater, in a cavern of sorts.. A more logical environment would mimic the geodesic dome in the Swan station, but on a much grander scale. The rest, well, it's a stretch, but environments have been created in biospheres for some time. One of the largest is the Eden Project (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Eden_Project)in England. Clouds and tides could probably be created with a bit of help... Sun could be simulated... Stars could be projected like in a planetarium. Again, just thinking out loud here...

Ah, a biosphere. Possible. The Looking Glass being inside one sort of evokes the imagery of nesting dolls, doesn't it?

Ah, a biosphere. Possible. The Looking Glass being inside one sort of evokes the imagery of nesting dolls, doesn't it?Good catch jennylee! You're right.. Nice imagery...

Good catch jennylee! You're right.. Nice imagery...

Aime en Peine -

Biosphere...I guess possible, but if the island ITSELF is a special place, then going through the trouble of building a biosphere around it would imply to me that it previously had no atmosphere...otherwise, just set the show in a cave! :biggrin:

I would say that this could be the case, but my (completely inane) instinct would be that you'd have to run with it and have the following type of scenario:

1. Researchers discover a wormhole to a special place outside the spactime continuum (or in a weird spacetime anomoly)
2. The properties of this place are so extraordinary as to justify building an environment there.
3. They build a biosphere to conduct research and take advantage of the place.
4. It turns out that it's on another planet or somewhere insane like miles within the earth.
5. There are statues of 4-toed gods and ancient ruins (pillars) and such, and they find out after completing this big construction that there's another race of people here. They're effectively aliens, by definition.
6. The incident is that the aliens attack. Maybe they are the Others (a la Richard Alpert) or maybe the Others are another older group that ended up here, and the natives are an as-yet unseen group.

Pros: Alien technology gives us good explanations to things like the Smoke Monster and Jacob and such. Explains why God can't see the island. It's not even on God's green earth! (or hundreds of miles below it...)

Cons: It's totally Star Trek. Blech. The answer being "aliens" is the penultimate cop-out (the ultimate being "they're in purgatory") so we kind of get a crap answer from tptb.

just my .02

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Not a good person:

I agree... Blech. If I hear the words "alien technology" as an answer to this whole shebang, I'll be pretty ticked off. :rolleyes: ...

The "Middle Earth" theory intrigues me as well.. Over the last couple of years that one keeps popping in my head as a possiblity.

I'd say now I'm definitely leaning toward the Looking Glass being a time/space portal. There's just too many arrows pointing to that being the answer.

Interesting... I hear 'the looking glass' and immediately think Alice in Wonderland.
It's clearly an Alice in Wonderland reference. Just look at the White Rabbit (with a watch even on some versions) on the logo.