was that Nadia charlie saved?

Yup! It was Sayid's cutie-pie.


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I think so what was she doing in London?

really? I thought that at first but then i convinced myself that it wasnt, i didnt think it looked like her eventually

really? I thought that at first but then i convinced myself that it wasnt, i didnt think it looked like her eventually

That is what I thought, I battled back and forth for about 2 minutes before settling on it not being her. I'm still not sure though. What was she doing in London that is the question.

I'm sure it was her. It looked like her, and it was definitely her voice.

Yep, it was definitely her. I wouldn't have been 100% sure, except that she was credited for this episode. All the more reason to hope Charlie somehow makes it, so eventually Sayid can find out about the cross.

well then if she was creditted theres no argument, it must have been the lighting and the rain that made her look different

I sure it was her too. so far she connected to Locke and Charlie.

It was her. For a seemingly somewhat insignificant character, she sure gets around. Maybe she is more important than I thought.

My friends said it immediately, is that sayids person who he tortured, so i think it was her as well

I wonder if she has some connection to Widmore. What was she doing in the back alley anyway? Coming or going through some back entrance?

What brings her to London, when we last saw her in CA?

So many questions.

Nadia?? Where'd you get that chicks name from?

If it was, she seems to have changed faces. Pretty sure it was NOT Nadia.

That's Sayid's lost love.

Who the heck is this Nadia? I must have missed something important... not the first time indeed :)

yah, very interesting. didn't notice it was the widmore building but thats cool. shes quite the wordly woman. heard she had a crossover with locke but i could never find it. can someone please tell me?

I wonder if she has some connection to Widmore. What was she doing in the back alley anyway? Coming or going through some back entrance?

What brings her to London, when we last saw her in CA?

So many questions.

When we saw her in California with Locke it appears to have been at least a couple of years ago due to the amount of hair Locke had.

Who the heck is this Nadia? I must have missed something important... not the first time indeed :)

thats sayids childhood love whom he had to torture but let her go free and shot himself instead

In Charlie flashback he is shown saving a lady from a mugger. The lady turn out to be Sayid's childhood sweet heart "Nadia". Nadia had stated that before Charlie saved her that three people had walk by her, without stopping to help. I find that awful strange. I find it strange that she was struggling with a mugger for that long of a time, without being seriously hurt.What was in Nadia's bag that was so important that she would risk her life for, instead of letting the mugger have it? why was Nadia in England ? Who was the mugger? It was obvious that the mugger didn't want to hurt Nadia, he just wanted her purse. but why? Do you think the mugging could have been stage? like maybe that is how they chose who to bring to the island?

yah, very interesting. didn't notice it was the widmore building but thats cool. shes quite the wordly woman. heard she had a crossover with locke but i could never find it. can someone please tell me?

I believe it was when Locke was a "home inspector". He did an inspection on a home Nadia was interested in buying

I found it odd that she noticed "three people walked by this alley" while she was being mugged. Who would notice that at that time? Seems kinda strange like maybe Charlie is on the Good list. Maybe she helped make the list.

BTW, I believe I read on this website once that Nadia was a customer of Locke's in one of his flashbacks.

She was probably just passing by, as it appeared to be a relatively busy street. But it would be interesting if she had some kind of Widmore connection. Im sure the big con theorists already have ideas on that front.

When we saw her in California with Locke it appears to have been at least a couple of years ago due to the amount of hair Locke had.

True. And wasn't Desmonds flashback to 1996.

I assume she is near Widmores office, since Charlie seemed to be on the same corner, and Des met him when he exited the building after his meeting with Widmore.

Interesting

ah so that's who Nadia is
totally didn't recognize her

Did anyone catch a glimspe of the muggers face? I'm sure there's a freeze frame out there someplace.

That whole scene sounded like a play on the parable of the Good Samaritan to me.

I thought it strange as well. Why would a person being actively mugged notice three people walk by. Maybe she helped make the "Good" list.

ah so that's who Nadia is
totally didn't recognize her

Did anyone catch a glimspe of the muggers face? I'm sure there's a freeze frame out there someplace.
http://losteastereggs.blogspot.com/

Here you go, don't recognize him though. Anybody?

Are you sure that was outside the Widmore building? It didn't look like the same street corner to me (as from FBYE). And if it was, it opens up a big can of worms... where the heck was Desmond? In FBYE, Desmond was talking to Charlie when the rain started, so if this was the same scene, he would have been there... unless Desmond's "flashback" was all in his mind and never actually happened.

I'm definitely going to have to rewatch this!

It says what building it was outside of on Charlie's "greatest hits" list.
Somebody find a screenshot of his list!
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According to Charlie, it was outside of "Covent Garden"

http://bp2.blogger.com/_8HhjIy50yEY/Rku6WWnoeYI/AAAAAAAAADI/rlzwQVBxbzs/s400/notes4.JPG

When Charlie was writing his memorable moments list, he wrote this happened outside a "covent." Maybe he meant convent? Not sure.

a real mugging takes seconds and almost never results in a tug of war. I saw a mugging once and when the woman pulled back on her purse the mugger leaned forward and she went down (she was already leaning backward away from him) holding the severed straps to her old purse. Took maybe 20 seconds tops. I could barely stop the car- guess the guy knew that witnesses would help the victim first.

When Charlie was writing his memorable moments list, he wrote this happened outside a "covent." Maybe he meant convent? Not sure.

see my post above yours man....

Covent Garden
sounds like a neighborhood name to me, but then it wouldn't make sense for it to be outside of it
Maybe the name of a park, bar, etc?
does anyone remember the name of the Bar that Desmond went to?

When Charlie was writing his memorable moments list, he wrote this happened outside a "covent." Maybe he meant convent? Not sure.

Covent is a section of London.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covent_Garden

http://losteastereggs.blogspot.com/

Here you go, don't recognize him though. Anybody?

In another thread people are guessing that it's Charlie's brother Liam.

In another thread people are guessing that it's Charlie's brother Liam.

I thought it was going to be Liam while I was watching, but it defintley was NOT him. If it were, Charlie would've recognized him and said something and it would've been some emotional scene (which I thought was going ot happen...thankgod it didn't cause that would've been cheesy as hell). After seeing the screencap of the mugger, it is definitley not him.

I found it odd that she noticed "three people walked by this alley" while she was being mugged. Who would notice that at that time? Seems kinda strange like maybe Charlie is on the Good list. Maybe she helped make the list.

I thought the same thing -- who would notice? And now I wonder if the number 3 is significant. Does anyone remember how many people passed by in the Good Samaritan parable? That's the only thought that comes to mind.

I thought it was going to be Liam while I was watching, but it defintley was NOT him. If it were, Charlie would've recognized him and said something and it would've been some emotional scene (which I thought was going ot happen...thankgod it didn't cause that would've been cheesy as hell). After seeing the screencap of the mugger, it is definitley not him.

Aaah, BUT - if you can rewind to that scene - there is a close-up of Charlie's face after the mugger runs away and he has a look of amazement.... could he have seen his brother? Something seems not right to him. It also could have been her comment about 3 people walking by and ignoring her. :confused: :confused: It's a puzzlement (laugh).

this site has a close up of the mugger. doesn't look like Liam and if it had been, Charlie would have recognized him

http://losteastereggs.blogspot.com/

In Charlie flashback he is shown saving a lady from a mugger. The lady turn out to be Sayid's childhood sweet heart "Nadia". Nadia had stated that before Charlie saved her that three people had walk by her, without stopping to help. I find that awful strange. I find it strange that she was struggling with a mugger for that long of a time, without being seriously hurt.What was in Nadia's bag that was so important that she would risk her life for, instead of letting the mugger have it? why was Nadia in England ? Who was the mugger? It was obvious that the mugger didn't want to hurt Nadia, he just wanted her purse. but why? Do you think the mugging could have been stage? like maybe that is how they chose who to bring to the island?

My husband was saying the same thing. He found something to be off about the whole scene.
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And now I wonder if the number 3 is significant. Does anyone remember how many people passed by in the Good Samaritan parable? That's the only thought that comes to mind.

Looked it up. The fellow was robbed and left for dead. First, a priest passed him. Next, a Levite. Then the Good Samaritan came along.

does anyone remamber what Nadia does for a living? i'm curious if she works in some kind of science field. I can't remember.

The thing I noticed is that this was when Desmond approached Charlie "after" turning the failsafe key. I was expecting to see Desmond, but wasn't surprised that I didn't, and certainly did not expect to see Nadia.
Does this mean that Desmond, by talking to Charlie "the second time," delayed Charlie long enough that he didn't become a hero to Nadia?
It could have been a different time, I suppose. But he was singing the same song, and it started to rain. I have to think it was the same event.

Locke met Nadia in "Lockdown" so that would've been at least 4 years ago. Maybe she was still in hiding while she was in Europe.

Ahhh. Here's the thread. I knew there would be one, but I couldn't find it, and my search button wasn't working. :(

But anyway, yeah... I wonder why she was in Europe. I mean, once your out of Iraq (was that the country she was arrested in?) why would the army go out of it way to re-kidnap her. No, I think she was actually just travelling, just trying to live life, now knowing how easily you could loose it.

I liked that scene. And I really like Nadia. It was good seeing her again!

The thing I noticed is that this was when Desmond approached Charlie "after" turning the failsafe key. I was expecting to see Desmond, but wasn't surprised that I didn't, and certainly did not expect to see Nadia.
Does this mean that Desmond, by talking to Charlie "the second time," delayed Charlie long enough that he didn't become a hero to Nadia?
It could have been a different time, I suppose. But he was singing the same song, and it started to rain. I have to think it was the same event.

I don't think charlie was wearing the same outfit, on both occasions, I could be wrong though. Maybe it was the rainy season in England! It's possible it's 2 different times.
Anyway besides that, I loved that Charlie was a hero. I like seeing the connections too between everyone.

was that Nadia charlie saved?

nice catch, I didn't notice it was her until you mentioned it

Could someone help me out here.
If Nadia is Sydiads childhood sweetheart. Why doesn't he reconize her?

...Because he wasn't there? :huh:

I think you might be getting Nadia and Naomi (the parachutist who is on the island now) confused, Laurie.

I think you might be getting Nadia and Naomi (the parachutist who is on the island now) confused, Laurie.

OMG Your right!!! Thank you:biggrin:

I thought that was Nadia! Glad to have it confirmed.

Could someone help me out here.
If Nadia is Sydiads childhood sweetheart. Why doesn't he reconize her?

I don't think they were ever really "sweethearts"; if I remember correctly, Nadia teased Sayid when they were children because she liked him. It happened so long ago that he didn't recognize her at first when he saw her again.

EDIT: I assumed you were talking about when Sayid had to interrogate Nadia in a previous epi. Oops!

In Charlie flashback he is shown saving a lady from a mugger. The lady turn out to be Sayid's childhood sweet heart "Nadia". Nadia had stated that before Charlie saved her that three people had walk by her, without stopping to help. I find that awful strange. I find it strange that she was struggling with a mugger for that long of a time, without being seriously hurt.What was in Nadia's bag that was so important that she would risk her life for, instead of letting the mugger have it? why was Nadia in England ? Who was the mugger? It was obvious that the mugger didn't want to hurt Nadia, he just wanted her purse. but why? Do you think the mugging could have been stage? like maybe that is how they chose who to bring to the island?

This was my exact same initial response... Unless those three people were directly in front of Charlie, which he would have noticed, there's no way that three people passed the alley in the amount of time that it would have taken the mugger to get the purse or give up.

does anyone remamber what Nadia does for a living? i'm curious if she works in some kind of science field. I can't remember.

She was supposedly in California working as a lab tech for a medical testing company. In The Greater Good- season 2, I believe.

This was my exact same initial response... Unless those three people were directly in front of Charlie, which he would have noticed, there's no way that three people passed the alley in the amount of time that it would have taken the mugger to get the purse or give up.

I don't think he necessarily would notice it, especially if he's lost in his own thoughts.

Here's how I picture it: Nadia is walking down the sidewalk. The mugger jumps out at her from the alley and grabs her purse. She hangs on as he starts to drag her into the alley. Three people walk quickly past the alley, glancing her way but then hurrying on. The mugger drags her further down the alley, and she shouts for help. Charlie hears/sees her and goes to help.

I don't think that would take much time at all.

I immediate said it was Nadia, a very wet Nadia.

I remember reading a spoiler on another site a while back that said it was NAOMI that Charlie saves from the mugger. I just checked the site again to be sure and it does say it's Naomi, so either tptb changed it or that was a mistake. Doesn't matter to me either way, I was happy to see Nadia and another connection between survivors.

Maybe our mugger is Eddie the Narc: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Normal_mazur_28529.jpg last seen at the wrong end of a gun, held by the man who inspected his intended victims house.

It is definitely Nadia. My wife and I both confirmed that it was. And she is always right (at least she thinks she is)! :D

Covent Garden is a very nice neighborhood with shops and places to eat. Great catch on the woman being Nadia - I noticed her accent but didn't put it together. Nobody looks their best in the pouring rain, eh? Charlie probably sang a certain set of songs so it's not surprising he'd be singing that Oasis song again. At first I thought it was a replay of the scene with Desmond, but then the details weren't quite the same. The easter egg site shows screenshots from the two eps and you can see they're different.

Are you sure that was outside the Widmore building? It didn't look like the same street corner to me (as from FBYE). And if it was, it opens up a big can of worms... where the heck was Desmond? In FBYE, Desmond was talking to Charlie when the rain started, so if this was the same scene, he would have been there... unless Desmond's "flashback" was all in his mind and never actually happened.

I'm definitely going to have to rewatch this!

Good catch, Allergygal, this is the most interesting part of the scene for me as well.

(I think that regarding the mugging, the writers wanted to create another corssover, and to make it significant enough for charlie to put it on his list and have it fit the structure of the episode, they had to make her thankyou really resonate with Charlie, hence "you're a hero." I'm personally not reading into it more than that)

Desmond supposedly went back in time and changed things by talking to Charlie when he came out of the building. But in Charlie's current memory, that did not happen. Desmond didn't talk to him. So we have Charlie and Desmond sitting in the boat, each with a completely different memory of what happened. What to make of that?

My theory on this (and I have yet to really flesh it all out in a post...will do soon) is that there are multiple timelines here, and a big part of what makes the island unique is the way that those timelines can all overlap/collide/be accessed. In the timeline we all live in, Flight 815 crashed. But in an alternate timeline, it entered some kind of a wormhile and crashed on the island, creating a second timeline. In another timeline, Desmond was crushed in the hatch implosion. But in a third one, he was sucked through another localized wormhole caused by the electromagnetic field in the implosion, and reappeared on the beach, same as the original crash victims. Notice how he, and Locke both come to on their backs, all confused and relatively unscathed, EXACTLY like Jack in the first shot of the Pilot episode? I think it's a clue, not just a cheap convention. Desmond has slightly different memories of things because he's from a slightly different time line. And on that timeline, he was years ahead, and now has flashes of what he's already lived but hasn't happened yet in THIS timeline. :biggrin:

I had no idea it was her...guess I was too tired to notice:redface:

i thought desmond came up to him when he was singing? so im starting to agree to this multiple time or time changing theory

What a horrible muggar. 3 people walk by and he is still trying to get the bag. I think Charlie was successful in saving her because the bloke was just plain tired after pulling on her bag for so long... :-)

i'm not going to say i bet...but i bet we will find out who the muggar is later, maybe it was leiam just a guess

And the dude that was mugging her, was, I am almost certain...the guy who told Charlie to listen to the radio, in the beginning of the ep...back at the scene with the van in the rain.

I don't think he necessarily would notice it, especially if he's lost in his own thoughts.

Here's how I picture it: Nadia is walking down the sidewalk. The mugger jumps out at her from the alley and grabs her purse. She hangs on as he starts to drag her into the alley. Three people walk quickly past the alley, glancing her way but then hurrying on. The mugger drags her further down the alley, and she shouts for help. Charlie hears/sees her and goes to help.

I don't think that would take much time at all.

Well, if that were the case (and there's no reason it couldn't be), then this wasn't a mugging, it was an attempted assault. Why would you go to the trouble (along with the extra time it would take and greater risk of getting caught) to drag someone halfway down an alley just to steal their purse? Wouldn't it make more sense just to hit the woman, grab the purse, and be off?

In Charlie flashback he is shown saving a lady from a mugger. The lady turn out to be Sayid's childhood sweet heart "Nadia". Nadia had stated that before Charlie saved her that three people had walk by her, without stopping to help. I find that awful strange. I find it strange that she was struggling with a mugger for that long of a time, without being seriously hurt.What was in Nadia's bag that was so important that she would risk her life for, instead of letting the mugger have it? why was Nadia in England ? Who was the mugger? It was obvious that the mugger didn't want to hurt Nadia, he just wanted her purse. but why? Do you think the mugging could have been stage? like maybe that is how they chose who to bring to the island?

i didn't see any thing to confirm it but the look on Nadia face when she saw her hero and the way the mugger looked up at Charile made me feel like the mugger was charile.

i didn't see any thing to confirm it but the look on Nadia face when she saw her hero and the way the mugger looked up at Charile made me feel like the mugger was charile.

That was my reaction as well, but the screencaps don't look anything like Charlie. It does look the band member that had Charlie listen to the radio. Maybe she recognized them both as DriveShaft members and that's why she gave that look. I definitely feel that there was something more to that look.

iim sure we'll find out later who it was