Danielle said that her research ship was drawn to the island after picking up the continuous broadcast of "the numbers" while at sea, and then their ship ran aground (the same broadcast heard by Lenny in the army listening post) She changed the transmission at the radiotower from the numbers to her warning message in french (why french if she speaks perfect english?)

How could her ship have picked up the numbers transmission, and later Sayid heard her message on the planes hand receiver, Boone and Bernard heard eachother over radio's as well, if there is a jamming device in place?

Same for the guy that Hurley got the numbers from right?

Exactly, makes no sense! Kinda makes you wanna scream and pul your hair out? eh :cool:

If continuity was a tv show, it wouldn't be lost. wait is that a pun? haha, oh man now im suffering from the curse of lost.

easy: the others didn't start jamming until after rousseau's team came to the island. probably, the jamming of the radio frequencies started after the purge of dharma, as the original numbers transmission was a dharma thing, after all. once the others/hostiles purged dharma, they started jamming dharma's radio transmissions. but rousseau's team was already there. as for sayid hearing the transmission (and boone/bernard hearing each other), the jamming of radio signals must only occur between on- and off-island transmissions. even the music hurley and sayid heard could've just been mikhail playing his favorite 8-track tape in the flame hatch.

--billy

The radio signal her ship and the listening post picked up were from before Ben's time and the jamming, I'm guessing.

And the jammer probably jams the signal from leaving the island. The signal might be faint enough to pick up right on the island, but past the Looking Glass, probably not.

Same for the guy that Hurley got the numbers from right?

LOL...I edited by original post to include this at the same time you posted! Yeah, Lenny and his partner heard the numbers being broadcasted from somewhere in the pacific while they were stationed in an army listening post. He told Hurley the numbers in the mental ward.

Perhaps the proximity to the radio tower allowed Sayid, Shannon, et al, to hear Danielle's transmission but if you were out at sea or in the air, you wouldn't hear it. This may make no sense other than being tv show logic.

easy: the others didn't start jamming until after rousseau's team came to the island. probably, the jamming of the radio frequencies started after the purge of dharma, as the original numbers transmission was a dharma thing, after all. once the others/hostiles purged dharma, they started jamming dharma's radio transmissions. but rousseau's team was already there. as for sayid hearing the transmission (and boone/bernard hearing each other), the jamming of radio signals must only occur between on- and off-island transmissions. even the music hurley and sayid heard could've just been mikhail playing his favorite 8-track tape in the flame hatch.

--billy

I knew somone would bring that up...that the jamming started AFTER Danielle was marooned, and that the jamming didn't interfere with ON ISLAND communications.

The purge happened before Rousseau got there, cause she was pregnant and the Others came for Alex soon after, so Ben was already heading their baby napping operations.

Why doesn't Ben just go disable the radio tower instead of enabling a jamming device to counter it?

I doubt a jamming device can focus on jamming SPECIFIC radio frequencies...remember Sayid wired that receiver and he and Hurly listened to music form the 1940's ?

How do you mask the sonar ping that the Dharma sub usese to find the island? That certainly is not a radiowave...it's a soundwave.

The trouble is you can't have all these instances of radio signals being recieved on and off the island for 3 seasons, and then all of sudden, because it's inconvenient to the current plotline, introduce a plot device that contradicts all that from happening...it stands out like a sore thumb, and if it's not addressed immedately with some explanation, it smacks of ineptitude.

I knew somone would bring that up...that the jamming started AFTER Danielle was marooned, and that the jamming didn't interfere with ON ISLAND communications.

The purge happened before Rousseau got there, cause she was pregnant and the Others came for Alex soon after, so Ben was already heading their baby napping operations.

Why doesn't Ben just go disable the radio tower instead of enabling a jamming device to counter it?

I doubt a jamming device can focus on jamming SPECIFIC radio frequencies...remember Sayid wired that receiver and he and Hurly listened to music form the 1940's ?

How do you mask the sonar ping that the Dharma sub usese to find the island? That certainly is not a radiowave...it's a soundwave.

The trouble is you can't have all these instances of radio signals being recieved on and off the island for 3 seasons, and then all of sudden, because it's inconvenient to the current plotline, introduce a plot device that contradicts all that from happening...it stands out like a sore thumb, and if it's not addressed immedately with some explanation, it smacks of ineptitude.

It doesnt contradict anything; we just don't know all the circumstances. Perhaps Ben didnt want to knock out the tower knowing he might need to actually COMMUNICATE, therefore a jamming device seemed more appropriate as it could be turned on and off at will.

As for these other little examples, like Hurley and his radio, there are many possible explanations. I prefer to wait and see before deciding that the LOST writers are "inept".

first of all, dude, chill, its just a tv show

second of all who is to say the original dharma people weren't into kidnapping babies too? Who knows how long Dharma was there before Ben and his dad arrived, I am sure they would have figured out pregnant women die, and being as Ben's mom died while he was being born, ben just continued that part of the research.
Nobody knows anything for sure... well except the writers... and from what they have done so far, I really don't think they "smack of ineptitude".

Perhaps Juliet was lying?

Also, I believe the Purge happened after Danielle's team came to the Island. The Purge happened somewhere around 1991-1993 but Danielle's team got there in 1988 (based on Alex's age). I believe Ben started jamming after the Purge and it only affects transmissions leaving the "snowglobe"

Your entire thread is based on an assumption that the jamming has always been in effect. Since there is no proof of that I really can't see your point other than wanting to find something wrong with the show. Why don't you wait until you have more information before you jump to a conclusion?

first of all, dude, chill, its just a tv show... I really don't think they "smack of ineptitude".

No problem there...I guess I just pay attention to what has happend beforehand.

What I find "inept" is that for 3 seasons now we have all sorts of communications/transmissons/radio broadcasts being picked up by every Tom, Dick and Harry on the show. Now that a means of rescue is at hand, it is being blocked by a newly introduced "Jamming" device with no explaination about how all the other radio sources are getting through. Sorry, it's inept and contrived....basic creative writing 101.

Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if writers come to the boards when they are in a jam because there are so many people trying to come up with answers to cover them.

Perhaps Juliet was lying?

Also, I believe the Purge happened after Danielle's team came to the Island. The Purge happened somewhere around 1991-1993 but Danielle's team got there in 1988 (based on Alex's age). I believe Ben started jamming after the Purge and it only affects transmissions leaving the "snowglobe"

Wouldn't the purge have to have happened before Danielle and her group got there? Ben needed to be in some sort of position to "adopt" Alex. Didn't look like he had a kid yet when the purge went down. Danielle has previously mentioned that her baby was stolen just after she was born. (side note: does it drive anyone else nuts that they kept the same baby name forthe stolen kid?!? That's like hiding Luke Skywalker from his father on his home planet... but I digress).

I'm guessing they started jamming a signal after Danielle's crew showed up, cuz they didn't want anymore French whacko's showing up.

And as for Sayid picking up the frequency on the island? Probably not actually possible, but maybe only signals transmitting outside the range of the Looking Glass are being blocked.

Seems pretty reasonable, I mean it is a TV show and if we're going to start picking at everything that doesn't seem like it could really happen... well we might wanna start with a plane being ripped open mid flight and people actually surviving.

Perhaps Juliet was lying?

Also, I believe the Purge happened after Danielle's team came to the Island. The Purge happened somewhere around 1991-1993 but Danielle's team got there in 1988 (based on Alex's age). I believe Ben started jamming after the Purge and it only affects transmissions leaving the "snowglobe"

I believe the writers have established that Danielle gave birth shortly after her arrival on the island, and the Others took the baby one week after she was born, so it stands to reason the "Ben led" Others, after the purge, already existed prior to her arrival.

I believe the writers have established that Danielle gave birth shortly after her arrival on the island, and the Others took the baby one week after she was born, so it stands to reason the "Ben led" Others, after the purge, already existed prior to her arrival.

Yes, Danielle gave birth shortly after arriving on the Island but I believe from the other evidence we have been given, the Others or Hostiles took Alex prior to the Purge. Ben may have still led this but not actually been there since he was still with DHARMA. This is just speculation on my part given when it seems the Purge occurred. I think the Purge occurred in the early 1990s because Kelvin had to be recruited by DHARMA after the Gulf War. My theory is the Others/Hostiles took Alex at Ben's request but that he didn't start raising her until he went to live with them after the Purge. Again, just my speculation and I have a feeling we will see these events in flashback at some point.

And as for Sayid picking up the frequency on the island? Probably not actually possible, but maybe only signals transmitting outside the range of the Looking Glass are being blocked.

Seems pretty reasonable, I mean it is a TV show and if we're going to start picking at everything that doesn't seem like it could really happen... well we might wanna start with a plane being ripped open mid flight and people actually surviving.


Agreed, they obviously are free to do what they want, it's their show. It's just that as Im watching a favorite program and a cool new concept is introduced (undersea laboratory, radio wave jamming device) I want to be blown away by the idea, not left scratching by head because to me it contradicts some things that have been established earlier in the continuity of the show...and I hate continuity gaffs...

I believe Juliet said "outgoing" transmissions were being blocked, how ever that works. They could still pick up the signal on the Island. Also, she did not say when this happened, so you can't really cry fowl for this. Ben may have done this yesterday, or right after the plane crashed. Until we get more information it's too soon to call the writers inept. The signal may not even be blocked at all, but Ben told them that it was. When has he told the truth :)
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Oh, I had another thought ...

Since the Looking Glass was under water, I wonder how any transmission blocking would work. Is that possible with conventional methods or are we to assume some fancy DHARMA technology is at work that is blocking outgoing communication?

I believe the writers have established that Danielle gave birth shortly after her arrival on the island, and the Others took the baby one week after she was born, so it stands to reason the "Ben led" Others, after the purge, already existed prior to her arrival.


I am not a timeline junkie.. but it seems to me _something_ happened 16 years ago that brought her ship/crew to the Island. Perhaps another "purple sky" event or the 'incident'. Either way, I think that THAT is when Ben took over, not before. Ben probably started the whole 'take the pregnant women" thing so he was behind Alex's taking.

Perhaps Ben "deposed" the previous leader, or something happened to the previous leader -- leading to a purple sky event? Hmmm.. let me think? Jacob going invisible maybe? That explains why Ben has so much power. He's convinced them only he speaks to Him.

D/

Danielle said that her research ship was drawn to the island after picking up the continuous broadcast of "the numbers" while at sea, and then their ship ran aground (the same broadcast heard by Lenny in the army listening post) She changed the transmission at the radiotower from the numbers to her warning message in french (why french if she speaks perfect english?)

How could her ship have picked up the numbers transmission, and later Sayid heard her message on the planes hand receiver, Boone and Bernard heard eachother over radio's as well, if there is a jamming device in place?

I really think that this all makes total sense to me. I do not see any continuity errors at all.

The jamming device was put in place after Danielle came

The jamming device only affects outgoing messages

Ben and the others are in control of that jamming device, so when "the others" need to get a transmission off the island, they would know exactly how to override the jamming device

And finally, you could also say....Why speak English when she speaks perfect French? English is not the predominant language in the world.

I thought it to mean that they started jamming it once Danielle put the message calling for help on it. Jamming that signal so no help would come to get her people off the island.

A couple of possibilities:

1) Juliette was either misinformed or lying about the Looking Glass being flooded. Perhaps the is true of what she knows about the "jamming". That could have just been a simplistic answer given to her so as not to explain the natural phenomenon that masks the island, both visually and audibly, from the outside world.

2)Maybe the few times that Sayid has been able to pick up another on island signal have been the times that Ben has deactivated the jamming device to send out his own communications.

This does seem like a bit of a contrivance to me, but no more so than other things in past episodes that have been cleaned up quite nicely. The simple fact is: this is Lost. Last week we "saw" an invisible person. There are any number of ways they could explain this that would suit the show just fine.

Perhaps Juliet was lying?

Also, I believe the Purge happened after Danielle's team came to the Island. The Purge happened somewhere around 1991-1993 but Danielle's team got there in 1988 (based on Alex's age). I believe Ben started jamming after the Purge and it only affects transmissions leaving the "snowglobe"

Danielle has been on the Island for 16 years before the plane crash in September 2004.

Which would be around 1988 (maybe 1989)...she was 7 months pregnant when she came to the Island.

Based on that, we will assume that Alex was also born in 1988/9.

Patchy apparently took part in Purge and he arrived about 1993 (based on his statements).
(We don't know what year the Purge took place, though we know it was in December)

If this holds true, then DHARMA would still have been in control of The Looking Glass in 1989/9 when Rousseau's ship arrived on the Island, and for some time after she changed the transmission.

Ok, I saw a re-cap of last nights episode, here is what Juliet says:
"Ben is using one of the Dharma stations to block all of the signals off of the island accept for ours"

No word on incoming signals, and that implies on-island commnunications are ok. Secret Dharma technology must allow this.

So for this scenario to work, 16 years ago (island time is still 1994), in 1988 when Rousseau's ship (OFF ISLAND) intercepted and tried to find the source of the Numbers broadcast from the radio tower, the jamming device had to be inoperative. When Lenny was in the service at his pacific island listening post and heard the Numbers transmission, there was no jamming either.

Rousseau gave birth to Alex in 1989 at the latest.

The Purge, following Mikhail's story, happened in the mid 90's.

Desmonds hatch mate, Kelvin, was recruited by Dharma to "Save the World" after the first Gulf war, which was in 1991.

The Others that took Alex in 1989 had to be pre-purge and Ben-less according to Mikhail.

Rousseau and the rest of her research crew somehow missed the Dharma VW'smaking their beer runs to the Arrow hatch which is clearly on her side of the island in 1988. :confused:

If the purge wasn't pre-Danielle, and taking into account Kelvin's arrival of 1991 or later and Mikhail's timeline of mid-90s arrival (I'm estimating 1993, because I recalled him saying he'd been there for 11 years, but I might be off), I'd assume the purge happened in 1993-4 and the Hostiles had some other reason to take Alex than Ben's baby concerns. Which makes sense - they did take the kids from the tail section of the plane.

And as far as Danielle missing those beer-runs for 4 or 5 years - she did go through a fairly traumatic time in the span of a few months, ending up alone - and the jungle is pretty scary. She could have immediately isolated herself, and only later started to explore. Or there could be a chunk of her story that we're missing.

Though I don't know the technology behind it, it seems possible that since Ben jammed the signal, he could have done so only recently, thus making all our timelining irrelevant.

And finally, you could also say....Why speak English when she speaks perfect French? English is not the predominant language in the world.


Chinese is, but English is #2. French trails behind at around #10.

Chinese is, but English is #2. French trails behind at around #10.

Guess my point was if I was marooned somewhere in the south pacific and leaving a distress call, there would be a higher probability of reaching an english speaking rescue vessel as opposed to a french speaking one.

Ok, I saw a re-cap of last nights episode, here is what Juliet says:
"Ben is using one of the Dharma stations to block all of the signals off of the island accept for ours"

No word on incoming signals, and that implies on-island commnunications are ok. Secret Dharma technology must allow this.

So for this scenario to work, 16 years ago (island time is still 1994), in 1988 when Rousseau's ship (OFF ISLAND) intercepted and tried to find the source of the Numbers broadcast from the radio tower, the jamming device had to be inoperative. When Lenny was in the service at his pacific island listening post and heard the Numbers transmission, there was no jamming either.

Rousseau gave birth to Alex in 1989 at the latest.

The Purge, following Mikhail's story, happened in the mid 90's.

Desmonds hatch mate, Kelvin, was recruited by Dharma to "Save the World" after the first Gulf war, which was in 1991.

The Others that took Alex in 1989 had to be pre-purge and Ben-less according to Mikhail.

Rousseau and the rest of her research crew somehow missed the Dharma VW'smaking their beer runs to the Arrow hatch which is clearly on her side of the island in 1988. :confused:

"Ben is using one of the Dharma stations to block all of the signals off of the island accept for ours"
Ben had no authority to order anything until the '90's. Danielle's team arrived in '88, so they heard the numbers. I think that nails the original question.

Secret Dharma technology must allow this.
I hear you :rolleyes: Secret Dharma technology allows an underwater facility to block radio signals. Right. And the one electronics expert (Sayid) does'nt question it.

The Purge, following Mikhail's story, happened in the mid 90's
I agree the mass killing in Othersville was in the '90's, but that might have been only the final battle of the fighting, which really started prior to Ben's arrival in the '70's. So, you could say the "Purge" was the whole thing that lasted for years, or only the last part of it. I'd like to know how the writers define the term.

The Others that took Alex in 1989 had to be pre-purge and Ben-less according to Mikhail.
I think this is an important point; Because it pretty much proves that Alex was kidnapped by a Ben-less Others group. I think Richard was the #1 guy before Ben joined up, but only a lieutenant to "Jacob", as Ben is now. I have to think Jacob ordered the kidnapping of Alex who was kept in the Others camp for a few years, then when Ben joined, he was given both the leadership role and the child to raise at the same time, by Jacob.

Rousseau and the rest of her research crew somehow missed the Dharma VW'smaking their beer runs to the Arrow hatch which is clearly on her side of the island in 1988.
The geography is tough to figure out, but as far as Roger's trips, we only know he was going to the "mesa" and that he had a map with the Swan station, not the Arrow. Danielle's camp is most or more than a day away from the Swan. Danielle's teams original camp, which was on the other side from where she's supposed to be now, was only occupied for a couple months. She might easily have missed any Dharma traffic then, especially since they were in a defensive situation.

The internet is a breeding ground for random opinionated people who think they're smarter than the rest of the world, including writers of their favorite TV shows. Why don't you wait until you actually have an answer before calling them out? I doubt you could write a better show.

And finally, you could also say....Why speak English when she speaks perfect French? English is not the predominant language in the world.

And from the information they've given us, the island is closest to French Polynesia. (And the Cook Islands, but I'm not sure what language they speak there.)
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Secret Dharma technology must allow this.
I hear you :rolleyes: Secret Dharma technology allows an underwater facility to block radio signals. Right. And the one electronics expert (Sayid) does'nt question it.
There's nothing impossible about that. It only looks to be about 50 ft down. At worst it would be an ineficient place to do it from. At best, there's a copper vein that goes throughout the mountains and is exposed at that part of the sea floor, which the station powers as a massive antenna.


The Others that took Alex in 1989 had to be pre-purge and Ben-less according to Mikhail.
I think this is an important point; Because it pretty much proves that Alex was kidnapped by a Ben-less Others group. I think Richard was the #1 guy before Ben joined up, but only a lieutenant to "Jacob", as Ben is now. I have to think Jacob ordered the kidnapping of Alex who was kept in the Others camp for a few years, then when Ben joined, he was given both the leadership role and the child to raise at the same time, by Jacob.
I agree it's an important point. I think the fact they were kidnapping children then must mean they were looking for someone powerful enough who could be trained into harnessing the power of the island and communicating with Jacob. I think Ben passed himself off to fill that role, and he chose to adopt Alex because he lost Annie and their unborn daughter (who would have been the same age) to the pregnancy curse that his subconscious brought to the island.


Rousseau and the rest of her research crew somehow missed the Dharma VW'smaking their beer runs to the Arrow hatch which is clearly on her side of the island in 1988.
The geography is tough to figure out, but as far as Roger's trips, we only know he was going to the "mesa" and that he had a map with the Swan station, not the Arrow. Danielle's camp is most or more than a day away from the Swan. Danielle's teams original camp, which was on the other side from where she's supposed to be now, was only occupied for a couple months. She might easily have missed any Dharma traffic then, especially since they were in a defensive situation.
It seems pretty clear that the Darma community for the most part stays within the Barracks. The people who ran the stations, from what we know, did so on long-term shifts, which only leaves the occasional resupply runs like the one that Roger Workman and Ben Workman had to do to the Swan before thier "father and son time." And it's a big freakin island. I'm not sure what Darma was using for roads, but in defensive mode, you wouldn't expect Rouseau's team to come across one of only 6 stations on the island.

The internet is a breeding ground for random opinionated people who think they're smarter than the rest of the world, including writers of their favorite TV shows. Why don't you wait until you actually have an answer before calling them out? I doubt you could write a better show.

I basically agree with what you're saying, but in defense of the people you're referring to, we only have pieces of this puzzle, so not a lot of this stuff is going to line up until we're able to step back from it and see the entire picture.

I used to try to catch continuity errors myself, because, as I mentioned, some of this stuff just doesn't make a lot of sense. However, I've since decided to let things play out (through the end of the entire series) before I really start questioning things.

One thing I've just recently learned (which is sad) about Lost is; until they actually SHOW us what happened, we don't really know. What Danielle says may not be true, what Kelvin said may not be true, we don't really know at this point.

I'd also like to add as part of the "How did Danielle miss seeing Dharma?" thread, that she did mention that she pretty much kept to herself in her makeshift domicile for most of her time on the island. I'm also very interested to find out what, if anything, The Hostiles have to do with "The Dark Territory" where Montand lost his arm, according to Danielle.

Juliet said that all signals except for Ben's are getting jammed. The numbers over the radio waves years earlier could have been the Others trying to lure women to the island or something...I mean it worked, right? A pregnant lady landed on the island (Rousseau).

Guess my point was if I was marooned somewhere in the south pacific and leaving a distress call, there would be a higher probability of reaching an english speaking rescue vessel as opposed to a french speaking one.


I was helping you make your point. English is actually the second most common
language in the world after Chinese. Pretty much everywhere in the world you'd
be better off leaving a distress call in English over French. People forget how
widely English is spoken as a second language.
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There's nothing impossible about that. It only looks to be about 50 ft down. At worst it would be an ineficient place to do it from. At best, there's a copper vein that goes throughout the mountains and is exposed at that part of the sea floor, which the station powers as a massive antenna.



This is a very interesting idea. Could it be that the island is riddled with veins of
some substance (not necessarily copper) which gives it its unique properties and
which others have mined (e.g. Black Rock, Dharma)? I am reminded of Ghostbusters,
where the entire building is constructed as a sort of antenna to another dimension.
What piqued my interest here is that you made me think of the ash/salt line on
the way to see Jacob. Is that evidence of a vein of some sort of NATURAL material
running through the island?

Perhaps Juliet was lying?

Or perhaps Juliet is just telling everyone what Ben told her, and Ben is lying about yet another thing. He seems to like to make stuff up.

Ben sucks.

I I'd also like to add as part of the "How did Danielle miss seeing Dharma?" thread, that she did mention that she pretty much kept to herself in her makeshift domicile for most of her time on the island. I'm also very interested to find out what, if anything, The Hostiles have to do with "The Dark Territory" where Montand lost his arm, according to Danielle.

I don't think Danielle missed much of anything. In fact, she knew where the Blackrock was, she found her way to the radio tower and she drew a pretty good tourist map that included the water around the island that looked out towards the Hydra. If you are moving, and moving as stealthly as she seems able , it is hard to completely miss two armed factions running/driving or whispering around the island shooting at each other or conducting zoological experiments with polar bears or whatever. The Losties found them pretty quickly. I also am taking new meaning in the term she came up with "Others" as referring to the group she observed that was other than Dharma. Danielle is tough and resourceful (please refer to what she did to her husband and the rest of her expedition that got the illness). For some reason she stayed in her end of the island at some point and never ventured to the Barraks or other spots frequented by Ben and Alex. She did get a little bit crazy from it all.

There is no scientific way that I know of to block signals traveling out but not in. Radio signals can be directed to a specific area but not deflected in a specific direction. If the Looking Glass jams signals going out it must also jam signals coming in. The on-island transmissions might not be affected depending on the location of the "jammer" but the effect would be universal on both incoming and outgoing signals to and from the island. So for instance Mikhail would not be able to pick up television feeds of news coverage of the crash while the "jammer" was being used to block signals leaving the island.

Everybody is complicating things too much. Before the hatch exploded the jamming system was not on so The Others could freely communicate with the outside world. When the hatch blew up and communication with the outside world was cut off, Ben turned the radar jamming system on so no other signals could get out.

Since no signals can get in Ben is making sure no signals can get out.

Only on island signals can be heard. Which explains the Lostaways hearing the radio tower transmission, the tail section survivors via walkie talkie and the music (I like the idea that it was coming from the Flame.)

Since I've gotten complicated myself let me state it very simple.

Ben turned the jamming system on recently.

The really dumb thing is that conventional raidio jamming is done by emitting a more powerfull signal on the same frequency, or more likely a broad spectrum of frequency's. In effect shouting louder than everyone else in a room, jam's their conversations. The problem with it is that while it disrupts the flow of information, it isn't exactly stealthy. As by definition you are putting out a more powerfull signal than the one you are trying to jam.

THe other option would be something like a highly ionized plasma bubble around the island. A force field if you will. However, if they have the power, and technology to do something like that. Then I really have a hard time beliving that a couple dozen clueless castaways even with locke on their side would be much of a problem.

You will note, I don't dealve into the idea that the magnetic anomoly could concievably cause enough radio interference to be jamming tadio waves. Because, we were told that ben was using a station to jam signals, and because it would also disrupt bens commo as well.

Danielle said that her research ship was drawn to the island after picking up the continuous broadcast of "the numbers" while at sea, and then their ship ran aground (the same broadcast heard by Lenny in the army listening post) She changed the transmission at the radiotower from the numbers to her warning message in french (why french if she speaks perfect english?)

How could her ship have picked up the numbers transmission, and later Sayid heard her message on the planes hand receiver, Boone and Bernard heard eachother over radio's as well, if there is a jamming device in place?

the numbers had to be a signal that wasn't blockd for a reason.

im not checking a timeline, but what if DHARMA/or/the Others were broadcasting the numbers for a reason. maybe their IS something supernatural about them. if thats true, then why? who created them?

the numbers had to be a signal that wasn't blockd for a reason.

im not checking a timeline, but what if DHARMA/or/the Others were broadcasting the numbers for a reason. maybe their IS something supernatural about them. if thats true, then why? who created them?

Dharma were broadcasting the Numbers has a way of reporting the results of their experiments to the outside world. In order to do that, they were using a specific frequency and encription.
Since Dharma's original purpose was changing the values of the core factors of the valenzetti equation (represented by the numbers) and the original transmission was never changed (at least until Rousseau came to the island), we can assume that Dharma failed.