The last words of the special are giving a huge hint (I think) as to who's gonna make it to the end of the series. Who's got the most changing to do yet?

With the backstories of Sawyer, Rose, Bernard, Charlie, and Claire at decent endpoints, does that bode well for them?


If we trust the spoilers, Jack has at least a few more flashbacks (Bai Ling has a contract for at least a few more episodes) and if I recall correctly there are rumors of a Rousseau flashback next season.


Who's got anything left open in their past?

Claire still has stuff left open doesnt she? Like why she was so mad at her mom before the wreck.

Well, if this is correct, I guess we can say good bye to Sawyer, Locke, Sayid, Charlie and Kate. Because it seems that all of their backstories are over.

I think the more important thing we should be asking ourselves is who is really important to the show now that we've confirmed that Desmond brought the plane down by accident. If he didn't do that they would have flown right by mystery island and there wouldn't have been a crash. The producers said that that is a definitive answer as to why the plane crashed. The others spent the time after the crash getting information and formulating a plot. So who is important? The only reason Jack is important is due to the fact that Ben needed him. The only reason that Locke is important is because Ben needed him. The only other person that I could really believe is important to the Others is Walt. All the other crash survivors were there to manipulate and deceive to get the big three to do the others bidding. I'm just really confused as to what the endgame for the show is ya know?

I think the more important thing we should be asking ourselves is who is really important to the show now that we've confirmed that Desmond brought the plane down by accident. If he didn't do that they would have flown right by mystery island and there wouldn't have been a crash. The producers said that that is a definitive answer as to why the plane crashed. The others spent the time after the crash getting information and formulating a plot. So who is important? The only reason Jack is important is due to the fact that Ben needed him. The only reason that Locke is important is because Ben needed him. The only other person that I could really believe is important to the Others is Walt. All the other crash survivors were there to manipulate and deceive to get the big three to do the others bidding. I'm just really confused as to what the endgame for the show is ya know?

Actually, I think the ensemble is important as part of the redemption of each character. They wouldn't be on the plane if not for their intertwined backstories. They would not be challenged to move towards their redemption without their interactions on island with the other characters. If you think about importance equalling a chance for redemption, then it makes more sense.

I think the more important thing we should be asking ourselves is who is really important to the show now that we've confirmed that Desmond brought the plane down by accident.
Don't be so sure.. Remember, Ethan was the doctor who injected Claire with that nice little potion to "help" her baby during the plane ride. That clearly shows connections to the Others before anyone even set foot on the plane.

Don't be so sure.. Remember, Ethan was the doctor who injected Claire with that nice little potion to "help" her baby during the plane ride. That clearly shows connections to the Others before anyone even set foot on the plane.
Ethan and Claire never met before the plane crash. The flashback of him injecting her took place after she'd been kidnapped on the island. He was on the island the whole time during her pregnancy, having arrived 3 years beforehand with Juliet.

So far, the only person we've seen the Others interact with off the island is Juliet, before she joined them.

But you can't use the open or closed backstory as logic for someone's death all the time.....look at Libby.:frown:

Well, if this is correct, I guess we can say good bye to Sawyer, Locke, Sayid, Charlie and Kate. Because it seems that all of their backstories are over.
True lockes back story is over but his story is really just begining.

I really don't see how Locke's backstory is over. In fact, I'm nearly positive that it isn't. Wasn't he aiming a rifle at a federal agent on an illegal pot farm? How was that resolved?

I think the more important thing we should be asking ourselves is who is really important to the show now that we've confirmed that Desmond brought the plane down by accident. If he didn't do that they would have flown right by mystery island and there wouldn't have been a crash. The producers said that that is a definitive answer as to why the plane crashed. The others spent the time after the crash getting information and formulating a plot. So who is important? The only reason Jack is important is due to the fact that Ben needed him. The only reason that Locke is important is because Ben needed him. The only other person that I could really believe is important to the Others is Walt. All the other crash survivors were there to manipulate and deceive to get the big three to do the others bidding. I'm just really confused as to what the endgame for the show is ya know?
All the women of child bearing age are important, no?

I don't know if this means anything, but Terry O'Quinn has been spotted by two people I know in Baltimre, MD. He formerly resided near Baltimore. Is he visiting while on hiatus or is he back for good???? He pulled up next to one of them in a car this morning.

I don't know if this means anything, but Terry O'Quinn has been spotted by two people I know in Baltimre, MD. He formerly resided near Baltimore. Is he visiting while on hiatus or is he back for good???? He pulled up next to one of them in a car this morning.

I'd say the cast are taking a well earned break before they start filming Season 3?

Claire still has stuff left open doesnt she? Like why she was so mad at her mom before the wreck.
Lots of stuff. Did Claire finally pull the plug on her mother at Christian's urging? Will she find out she's Jack's sister? How? Will he need a life saving transfusion or something? What about Aaron? Will the Others finally get him?

Well, if this is correct, I guess we can say good bye to Sawyer, Locke, Sayid, Charlie and Kate. Because it seems that all of their backstories are over.
I agree Charlie's story seems to be over but not necessarily the other four. We never found out why Sawyer had an Interpol report in his file. What common southern/mid-western criminal has an Interpol report? There's way more to him. We never found out Kate's relationship with the marshall, why he dogged her so relentlessly, why she thought she could talk him out of chasing her, what he was doing picking her up in Australia when it seems like it should have been a different law-enforcement agency doing that. There is also the question of her father/step-father's relationship to Kelvin and Sayid during the Gulf War. Kate jumped to the conclusion that if Dad was overseas when she was conceived she must be Wayne's child, but what if she was adopted and not really Diane's child? There is more to Sayid - what happened after he met the woman with the cat? Did he ever see Nadia again? (Seems like everybody else did.) As for Locke, as caforrest2047 pointed out, his story is just beginning.

I think the more important thing we should be asking ourselves is who is really important to the show now that we've confirmed that Desmond brought the plane down by accident. If he didn't do that they would have flown right by mystery island and there wouldn't have been a crash.
I don't think how the plane crashed is the question. The questions are: Why was it flying near the island 1000 miles off course? Why was a bogus crash site found near Bali? Who organized manipulating all those people to get on that particular plane? If there were no crash, who is to say that the plane would have flown right by and not land nearby?
Who's got anything left open in their past?Who knows what the writers consider left open? Shannon died never knowing that Jack had chosen to save Sarah over Mr. Rutherford. I would have thought there was lots of story left there. That's when her whole life took a nose dive. It seems to me that Charlie, Rose and Bernard, and Sun and Jin could be done based on what I know. But - the writers could have all sorts of things up their sleeves for them. Charlie just got captured by the Swedish Bikini Team, Rose was cured of cancer and that's got to interest Ben and his gang, and Sun's has the got pregnant on the island thing to deal with.

I think the more important thing we should be asking ourselves is who is really important to the show now that we've confirmed that Desmond brought the plane down by accident.Whoa... hold the phone, there! :)

We've confirmed that Desmond's not pushing the button in time is what caused 815 to crash. Nowhere did they say it was an accident.

What do we really know about Kelvin? He strikes me as a right suspicious fellow. Why did Des fail to push the button at that particular time? He was following Kelvin. Why was he following Kelvin? Because he saw that the hazmat suit Kelvin donned that day was torn, tipping him off that the outside wasn't really hazardous. But surely Kelvin didn't mean for Des to see that, right? Kelvin didn't try to lure Des outside, did he?

Who knows... maybe he did...

I'd say the cast are taking a well earned break before they start filming Season 3?

Geez. Maybe there is something to these time travel theories. I thought we were moving on to season 4- I guess the show is going back in time. :)

But you can't use the open or closed backstory as logic for someone's death all the time.....look at Libby.:frown:

There've been strong hints from the producers that Libby's story has not been fully told.

In one of the podcasts I believe they said it would be told through another person's flashback.

My guess: her busband who died was named David. Hurley's imaginary friend is named "Dave". I think they'll say she found peace with her husband's passing by getting together with Hurley.

And, I'm guessing Sawyer's baggage still hasn't been resolved yet. He hasn't resolved being a con man himself.
100%
Who organized manipulating all those people to get on that particular plane?

I think Damon and Carlton were trying to put that theory to bed by saying that everyone ended up on the plane because of everyone else's actions and decisions. The interlocking lines of fate and chance are an example of TPTBs "Live Together, Die Alone (http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=70094)" principle.

People who still have changing to do...uh everyone. I don't think the deaths have to do with whose backstory is complete, a good example is Libby. And if we're going by who has the most changing to do - that's completely different than their backstories.

I think as long as their island-story still has a purpose, the writers can fill in the flashbacks with whatever they see fit, be it extremely important or not.

I don't think Jack's flashbacks are all incredibly crucial to the overall plot, but Jack obviously has a lot to deal with on the island. They'll continue to give him flashbacks because the emphasis needs to be on him during that particular episode. Sometimes the basis of the flashbacks are not to reveal something incredibly spectacular about said character, but to establish them as human beings, and to draw our attention to their emotions and why they do what they do on the island.

Also, as for the whole "whose storylines are important" dealio, I think any of the character's flasbacks could end just like that. After we found out Kate blew up her dad, she could have never had a flashback again and her character would still make sense. However, if we know she was in a similar situation off the island as she is on the island, we may see through flashbacks how she responded then and how that will prompt her to respond now.

The flashbacks are critical, whether they reveal a lot or not. However, I agree that Charlie's is starting to dwindle. But the writers could boost it back up with other interesting plot points, like deciding that Henry is really Liam in disguise :biggrin: