ONLY during this particular airing (that I can remember), you can see 2 planes for a second!

I can't get a screengrab since I'm at work so if somebody can, please post it...

In the original airing of S3E1, we see the Ben and Co. come outside to see what's going on. There is a scene that is focused on Juliet for a sec and then it pans to the sky where we see the plane break apart and what not... In LOST: The Answers, when the same scene is shown, there is an additional piece of footage that actually show two separate planes.

At first, I thought it was just a standard overlay / zoom effect, but when I paused it, I could see that the clouds around the plane were in two different locations. ***I do mean two planes*** there are two on the screen at the SAME time. This part of the footage wasn't in the original airing.

This may not be enough info for you guys to see what I'm talking about...

So, if you crafty peeps want to help out on this one...

1. Post a screencap of the original airing planecrash.
2. Post a screencap of the Answers planecrash.
3. Have fun discussing the possibilities.

Anyway, maybe I'm seeing more here than is there so if somebody could reply, that would be coolio.

Hey I gotta say I watched the scene you spoke of, frame by frame, and while I can see what your talking about with respect to the clouds being different there never is a second plane. The clouds are different probably because the close up shot of the clouds was taken at a different time then the far away shot...basically if anything its a continuity error but sorry...no second plane!

ONLY during this particular airing (that I can remember), you can see 2 planes for a second!

I can't get a screengrab since I'm at work so if somebody can, please post it...

In the original airing of S3E1, we see the Ben and Co. come outside to see what's going on. There is a scene that is focused on Juliet for a sec and then it pans to the sky where we see the plane break apart and what not... In LOST: The Answers, when the same scene is shown, there is an additional piece of footage that actually show two separate planes.

At first, I thought it was just a standard overlay / zoom effect, but when I paused it, I could see that the clouds around the plane were in two different locations. ***I do mean two planes*** there are two on the screen at the SAME time. This part of the footage wasn't in the original airing.

This may not be enough info for you guys to see what I'm talking about...

So, if you crafty peeps want to help out on this one...

1. Post a screencap of the original airing planecrash.
2. Post a screencap of the Answers planecrash.
3. Have fun discussing the possibilities.

Anyway, maybe I'm seeing more here than is there so if somebody could reply, that would be coolio.

I think I know what your seeing, it pans out over the island and you can see two crash sites, which is the Fuselage and the tailsection that landed on two different sides of the island. So we have one plane broken up into two sections= two crash sites. I hope that made sense.:undecide:

I think I know what your seeing, it pans out over the island and you can see two crash sites, which is the Fuselage and the tailsection that landed on two different sides of the island. So we have one plane broken up into two sections= two crash sites. I hope that made sense.:undecide:

Nah, not that part... :)

It's at the instant that you first see the plane... The camera pans up from behind Juliet and you can see 2 planes in the air. I looked for a screencap, but couldn't find one. Lemme poke around abc.com ***EDIT*** Ok, I couldn't find a screencap because nobody has them up yet. :(
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Hey I gotta say I watched the scene you spoke of, frame by frame, and while I can see what your talking about with respect to the clouds being different there never is a second plane. The clouds are different probably because the close up shot of the clouds was taken at a different time then the far away shot...basically if anything its a continuity error but sorry...no second plane!

Wouldn't that require that they create, in 3D, a plane and the then the animated sky... THEN, re-do the same scene, in 3D and then, in 3D, superimpose the two images?

See what I'm saying? It can't be a production error if the only "production" that was done is 100% 3D.

Nah, not that part... :)

It's at the instant that you first see the plane... The camera pans up from behind Juliet and you can see 2 planes in the air. I looked for a screencap, but couldn't find one. Lemme poke around abc.com
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LOL, well without a screen cap it's hard to tell what your talking about, hope you find one, I'm interested to see it too. It's probably just a piece of the plane breaking up in the air.

LOL, well without a screen cap it's hard to tell what your talking about, hope you find one, I'm interested to see it too. It's probably just a piece of the plane breaking up in the air.

Hehe, nope. It's two complete planes taken at different altitudes... I wish I still had S3E1 saved on my DVR... grrr.

***EDIT*** I still can't find anything on LOST: THE ANSWERS, but I did find the following two shots from S3E1.

What I am talking about occurs BETWEEN the following two shots.
http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/8357/normallosts03e01screencxn1.jpg
*two planes in the air*
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/6659/normallosts03e01screencnk1.jpg

These shots are from the ORIGINAL airing of the episode. What I am talking about is an added (or deleted) scene that shows for a brief second, two planes in the air. Maybe I'm crazy... Pause and go frame by frame as soon as the camera pans up from Juliet and you'll see what I mean.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=OaiHXVgoPUs

You'll see it in the first couple of seconds of that video. It's just the transition from one frame to the next, but still the same plane

http://youtube.com/watch?v=OaiHXVgoPUs

You'll see it in the first couple of seconds of that video. It's just the transition from one frame to the next, but still the same plane

Yep, that's it. You are correct methinks. Thanks for putting a nail in that coffin. My head was starting to hurt. :)

Yep, that's it. You are correct methinks. Thanks for putting a nail in that coffin. My head was starting to hurt. :)

Mine too. This show has that effect.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=OaiHXVgoPUs
Oh, now I see what you mean. Thanx for the link, oclor.

Wouldn't that require that they create, in 3D, a plane and the then the animated sky... THEN, re-do the same scene, in 3D and then, in 3D, superimpose the two images?

See what I'm saying? It can't be a production error if the only "production" that was done is 100% 3D.
Yes, if the entire shot were done in CGI. But it seems to me that the sky was probably real, and the plane done in CG and superimposed over it. And of all the things you can control in shooting a scene, the sky is not one of them.

You'll see it in the first couple of seconds of that video. It's just the transition from one frame to the next, but still the same plane
Yeah, they did a lot of these sorts of cuts in Answers and Survivor Guide, shortening scenes slightly, probably for time constraints. In this one, it looks like they just cut out a few frames and did a quick cross-fade from one shot to the next. So for a moment, you're seeing the end of the bit before the cut and the beginning of the bit after the cut at the same time. Kind of sloppy, but there's not much of another good way to do it.

don't give up on this yet? this is a critical occurence, the creation of 2 realities. have you compared the words Ben speaks in the different shows after seeing the plane split apart? I think you'll find variation. another clue to there being alternate timelines going on. so yes, this could be the subtlest of clues

You're absolutely right!! There's two planes. I have it but don't know how to screen capture it and paste it. If you go back to the post with the video and and just click on play and pause you will see both planes. It's not clouds. The smaller one was in the picture longer and end up in the back ground. It is the clearer of the two. I'll keep running it to see which one comes apart. My guess is one ended up on the island and Niomi spoke of the other that was found without survivers.
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I have the screen capture but don't know how to attach it. No doubt, there's two planes.

Not to be an ***, but who cares what appeared in the editted footage in a LOST recap. I recently watched that episode again and there is but one plane in the sky.

Not to be an ***, but who cares what appeared in the editted footage in a LOST recap. I recently watched that episode again and there is but one plane in the sky.My sentiments exactly. If we're going to theorize, why do it based on a bad edit in a recrap, rather than the original footage in the original show, which showed nothing of the sort?

Not to be an ***, but who cares what appeared in the editted footage in a LOST recap. I recently watched that episode again and there is but one plane in the sky.

because it fits the theory of an alternate reality being created! what happens & what is visible may not be in the alternate reality. the alternate plane would be visible for the briefest instant, just like shown.
the 2nd reason I'm willing to consider this a clue is although the Lost Answers show is outside the show's regular timeline, TPTB have used multiple avenues to share information on Lost mythology & provide clues. Is the replay of the plane crash, the most revisited scene of the show, in a show titled "Answers" a clue, or an editing glitch?
either side may be right at this point, but I'm betting on the craftiness of the creators & see not only a clue, but a statement.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=OaiHXVgoPUs

You'll see it in the first couple of seconds of that video. It's just the transition from one frame to the next, but still the same plane

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IEQLJmubF8

here's the scenes to compare, crash comes in about 2:30 of clip

Just watched both clips and the one from "The Answers" is definitely a different clip than the orig episode's. It does show a second plane for a split second but I don't think it means much. At the time the special came out, as I recall, fans were still asking for more "Answers" and the show was getting around to answering questions a bit quicker from episode to episode. The two planes may have been just a little clue at the time to something we have since found out - that there were 2 planes: one that crashed on the island and one fake in the Sunda trench. That is assuming it was done on purpose in the first place but either way - let's move on.