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Karri
05-23-2007, 03:00 PM
Welcome to the watching live thread!!! Please try to keep the posts topicy and have something more to say besides "Look at what Kate did!!!!" or "OMG!!!".

Enjoy!!!

dm
05-23-2007, 06:50 PM
for all my fellow canadians...CTV is airing Lost in 2 parts tonite. the first half will be on from 7-8, then they're airing american idol from 8-10. the last part is on from 10-11.

gusthepolarbear
05-23-2007, 06:55 PM
thats almost too crazy

Hockeyking
05-23-2007, 07:01 PM
It just started now at 5:00 pm central. Jack's on a jet with a full beard. He sees something in a newspaper and tears it out. He's on the ground in his car when he pulls over on a bridge and is crying. He phones someone and then hangs up mid sentence. He then goes to the edge of the bridge to commit suicide when a car accicent happens behind him and then the flashback ends.
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Wow it's pretty good. The two women are others in the looking glass. They radio Ben and ask who Charlie is. Ben tells Mickhail to hurry up and go to the looking glass. Michail asks Ben he thought the looking glass was flooded, to which Ben replies "I lied". The first two explosions go off but Jin misses his, and allows everybody to be caught.

JackVersusLocke
05-23-2007, 07:21 PM
for all my fellow canadians...CTV is airing Lost in 2 parts tonite. the first half will be on from 7-8, then they're airing american idol from 8-10. the last part is on from 10-11.That would drive me crazy. I'm happy I can see it all at once.

Hockeyking
05-23-2007, 07:39 PM
I wonder what temple Ben was referring to when he told Richard to go there. I think Ben will probably kill Alex now that he knows that she betrayed him. I dont know why the others are so ruthless, that all they want to do is kill the losties.
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Pretty good so far. Desmond hiding from the woman and now Michail getting orders from Ben to kill everyone in the looking glass is unexpected. I dont know what Ben means that the island is under attack, and that he is protecting it at all costs. Juliette tells Sawyer that they were building a runway back at the bear cages.
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Whooooooa! Big time spoiler don't read if you dont want to know


Locke wakes up in the pit, but is paralysed again. He finds a gun off of one of the corpses, and is about to commit suicide when someone yells to stop. Locke looks up and its WALT.

TabbyRasa
05-23-2007, 07:59 PM
Thanks for your posts, Hockeyking...much appreciated! :)

Desmundo
05-23-2007, 08:00 PM
I wonder what temple Ben was referring to when he told Richard to go there. I think Ben will probably kill Alex now that he knows that she betrayed him. I dont know why the others are so ruthless, that all they want to do is kill the losties.
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Pretty good so far. Desmond hiding from the woman and now Michail getting orders from Ben to kill everyone in the looking glass is unexpected. I dont know what Ben means that the island is under attack, and that he is protecting it at all costs. Juliette tells Sawyer that they were building a runway back at the bear cages.
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Whooooooa! Big time spoiler don't read if you dont want to know

Locke wakes up in the pit, but is paralysed again. He finds a gun off of one of the corpses, and is about to commit suicide when someone yells to stop. Locke looks up and its WALT.

Holy shit! The spolier was true. OMG. I didn't want to believe it, but I can't deny it now. As Locke said, "I WAS wrong."

TabbyRasa
05-23-2007, 08:03 PM
Hockeyking...so your first hour of the Finale is over now? Or are you watching another channel that is airing the whole 2 hours consecutively?

lostfan23
05-23-2007, 08:06 PM
Hockeyking...so your first hour of the Finale is over now? Or are you watching another channel that is airing the whole 2 hours consecutively?

i am watching it as well... its the CTV Maritime feed on my satellite. so it is 6-8 pm and airing the whole thing, unlike the other CTV channels, because Idol starts at 8 pm, so for this channel, it can just air Lost straight through and not interrupt Idol

Hockeyking
05-23-2007, 08:07 PM
Hockeyking...so your first hour of the Finale is over now? Or are you watching another channel that is airing the whole 2 hours consecutively?



I'm watching it consecutively, the second hour just started. Ben has beat the losties to the radio tower and wants to talk.

TabbyRasa
05-23-2007, 08:08 PM
i am watching it as well... its the CTV Maritime feed on my satellite. so it is 6-8 pm and airing the whole thing, unlike the other CTV channels, because Idol starts at 8 pm, so for this channel, it can just air Lost straight through and not interrupt Idol

I'm watching it consecutively, the second hour just started. Ben has beat the losties to the radio tower and wants to talk.
Thanks for the update, both of you! :cool:

Kate731
05-23-2007, 08:10 PM
Sigh. I know its nice for those who want spoilers, but it sucks that I can't post in here while I watch without being spoiled. :frown:

Oh well, the final hour I'll be watching ABC, so I guess onto that watching live thread for me.

Desmundo
05-23-2007, 08:13 PM
i am watching it as well... its the CTV Maritime feed on my satellite. so it is 6-8 pm and airing the whole thing, unlike the other CTV channels, because Idol starts at 8 pm, so for this channel, it can just air Lost straight through and not interrupt Idol

How cool! We still have like 5 hours to wait over here in California. Pardon me a moment:

[Desmundo teleports herself to lostfan23's place]...

D: I made it! I can't believe it, I'm alive and I get to see the Lost Season Finale!

{Enter two hot chicks with guns}
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Sigh. I know its nice for those who want spoilers, but it sucks that I can't post in here while I watch without being spoiled. :frown:

Oh well, the final hour I'll be watching ABC, so I guess onto that watching live thread for me.

Aw Kate, you're right. We'll use the spoiler thingy for now. I totally forgot.

Hockeyking
05-23-2007, 08:19 PM
Big time spoiler again
Ben wants the radio from Naomi, he'll kill Sayid, Jin, and Bernard if he doesnt get it. Jack resists and you hear three shots. Jack goes wild and beats Ben to a pulp. He gets on the radio and says he will come and kill Tom.
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Big time spoiler again
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Ben wants the radio from Naomi, he'll kill Sayid, Jin, and Bernard if he doesnt get it. Jack resists and you hear three shots. Jack goes wild and beats Ben to a pulp. He gets on the radio and says he will come and kill Tom.


They are alive, haleluya. They only shot into the sand. Hurley comes with his van and runs over one other. Sawyer grabs a gun and has Tom at gunpoint. Tom surrenders but Sawyer kills him anyways.
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The flashbacks have kind of sucked of Jack. There will probaly be some big surprise at the end.

The big spoiler in the looking glass is


Charlie and Desmond are getting the password from the wounded woman, when she tells them the password she says that it could of only been programed by a musician because its a song title, implying that it might be Charlie.

Amos
05-23-2007, 08:40 PM
come on guys i am a fan over in scotland so wont see it till 2morrow night
so PLEASE tell us what else is happening i cant wait!!!

Hockeyking
05-23-2007, 08:43 PM
I'm not gonna tell you what just happened but its a BIG reveal. Just make sure you watch the show. This is what a season finale should be, big reveals, shocking twists, and suspense. Smallville and Heroes screwed up compared to this.

One thing is Michail is hard to kill, He took a arrow to the heart and lives.

lost and found
05-23-2007, 08:51 PM
I'm not gonna tell you what just happened but its a BIG reveal. Just make sure you watch the show. This is what a season finale should be, big reveals, shocking twists, and suspense. Smallville and Heroes screwed up compared to this.

One thing is Michail is hard to kill, He took a arrow to the heart and lives.

This IS the ' Watching Live Thread', so kindly don't be coy.

Please tell us!

alaylam
05-23-2007, 08:57 PM
I agree with hockeyking... you're gonna want to experience the "OH MY GOD!" moments for yourself. Seriously.

Desmondslass
05-23-2007, 09:00 PM
Sorry I would not be here if I did not want to know everything!!! :biggrin:

Soad
05-23-2007, 09:02 PM
Walt looks SOOO big :O

Hockeyking
05-23-2007, 09:06 PM
Oh my god!!!!!!! Ok I dont want anyone mad at me but I'll tell you what the ending was.


I dont believe it. This was the best season finale of all time. Not hype, reality.

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If you dont want the single best episode of television spoiled please dont read. This will be talked about for years and years.
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here it comes

After the signal is shut down Naomi's phone starts to get a signal. Ben is pleading with Jack to destroy the phone because Naomi is lying and the rescuers will come and kill everybody. Locke shows up and kills Naomi. He has the gun pointed at Jack and tells him to give him the phone. Meanwhile its starts to ring, and Locke warns Jack one last time. Jack is defiant and answers the phone. Locke puts down his gun and leaves into the forest. The man on the phone comes on and asks where they are. Jack tells them and they say they have located them and are coming to rescue them.

It then jumps to another Jack flashback, where the big reveal is. It's not a flashback, it's the future. He's off the island and back home and he is miserble. He pleads on the phone for someone to meet him. It's Kate, and she wants nothing to do with him. He tells her he's been looking non stop for the island, and wants to go back.


The end.

Simply brilliant.

lisa17
05-23-2007, 09:06 PM
Wow! That's all I can say! I can't even begin to try to figure this out

Soad
05-23-2007, 09:07 PM
I haven't seen the end yet. and I live in canada, I mean, I just saw the first part .. AND IT STOPED.. IN ORDER TO CONCLUDE AFTER AMERICAN IDOL!!

Desmondslass
05-23-2007, 09:11 PM
Hockeyking what about Desmond and Charlie???????? :confused:

Hockeyking
05-23-2007, 09:11 PM
I haven't seen the end yet. and I live in canada, I mean, I just saw the first part .. AND IT STOPED.. IN ORDER TO CONCLUDE AFTER AMERICAN IDOL!!


Who ever was in charge of broadcasting at CTV should be fired. For American crap idol they postpone the ending. You'll be pissed off you had to wait. It's awesome.

alaylam
05-23-2007, 09:12 PM
Well.... if you MUST know.... because you are just so impatient :p

here are the MAJOR SPOILERS, too much happens to give a full recap.


1) Charlie dies (see below)
2) Naomi is not who she claims to be
3) The last scene of the episode shows a flashback (or is it a flashforward? help me out here) of jack calling someone and meeting up with them at the airport at night.... the person gets out of the car.... and it's kate. he goes on to say things like "we weren't supposed to leave" and "we need to go back"
4) Bernard, Sayid, and Jin are OK - Hurley saves the day
5) After Charlie turns off the switch, a video transmission comes in.... it's Penny. Charlie talks to her, tells her Desmond is there, they are survivers of flight 815. Penny has no idea who Naomi is or what boat Charlie is talking about. Then mikhail sets a grenade off from outside the station and floods the room Charlie is in. He drowns.
6) Jack beats the crap out of Ben
7) Rousseau and Alex meet face to face, Ben tells Alex it's her mother
8) Locke sees/ talks to Walt
9) Locke shoots Naomi in the back
10) Jack speaks to someone through Naomi's phone - he tells Jack they can track them and to stay put, they're coming to rescue them.


Satisfied? lol

Marcus
05-23-2007, 09:13 PM
The big spoiler in the looking glass is

Charlie and Desmond are getting the password from the wounded woman, when she tells them the password she says that it could of only been programed by a musician because its a song title, implying that it might be Charlie.


I don't mean to nitpick, but you misunderstood. The password is a series of numbers, and each number makes a musical note. Together the sequence is the melody for "Good Vibrations" by The Beach Boys. Bonnie said that the man who programmed the code must have been a musician. There's no reference there to Charlie being the one who programmed it.

Just wanted to clear that up. ;)

Soad
05-23-2007, 09:14 PM
It kind of sucks to wait one hour to get the ending.. damn damn damn!!11111!!!! ARGH!
I'm so pissed off..

I hope it's worth it.

lostfan23
05-23-2007, 09:14 PM
For all the Charlie fans out there, I will say this...

It seems he went at peace... There was no panic in his actions, and he accepted his fate. He did share a nice moment with Des in his last few seconds.

CharliesHoodie
05-23-2007, 09:16 PM
Can anyone say if Charlie really does write a song while being tortured? and if it shows up?

Carlo210
05-23-2007, 09:17 PM
It kind of sucks to wait one hour to get the ending.. damn damn damn!!11111!!!! ARGH!
I'm so pissed off..

I hope it's worth it.

It's 2 hours. American Idol is on until 10:00.

And, about charlie and songs:
He isn't writing a song while being tortured. He is singing songs (You all everybody!) to aggrivate and piss off the two women.

Soad
05-23-2007, 09:18 PM
You're joking, RIGHT?!?!6161616
But I can still watch it at ABC... at what time?

Marcus
05-23-2007, 09:20 PM
For all the Charlie fans out there, I will say this...

It seems he went at peace... There was no panic in his actions, and he accepted his fate. He did share a nice moment with Des in his last few seconds.

I second that:

Charlie dies a hero's death by closing the door to the chamber he's in (that is about to be flooded due to Mikhail's grenade), thus saving the Looking Glass and Desmond, who is on the other side of the door as Charlie drowns inside.
A very emotional moment. R.I.P. Charlie... :rip:

Carlo210
05-23-2007, 09:21 PM
And stop saying 'foilers', guys. Hehe, you're misleading a lot of the people who're eager to know the ending.
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You're joking, RIGHT?!?!6161616
But I can still watch it at ABC... at what time?

I'm pretty sure it starts at 9:00, so the second half will be on at 10:00, the saem time as on CTV.

CharliesHoodie
05-23-2007, 09:23 PM
does it show a body and stuff?

Shillelagh61
05-23-2007, 09:25 PM
You're joking, RIGHT?!?!6161616
But I can still watch it at ABC... at what time?

My satellite feed of ABC east is on at 8 'pm CENTRAL DAYLIGHT
ABC west feed is on at 11 pm CENTRAL DAYLIGHT

Marcus
05-23-2007, 09:25 PM
Can anyone say if Charlie really does write a song while being tortured? and if it shows up?

He first begins singing "You All Everybody" to cover the sound of Desmond in the water (Bonnie and Greta are in another room discussing what to do when they hear Charlie talking to someone).

Later on, if I understood correctly, Charlie mentions something about the ease in writing a new song he's been working on and he sings a few phrases before being told to shut up by Bonnie. She punches him in the face and he agrees to shut up.

Soad
05-23-2007, 09:26 PM
I don't read spoilers anyway :P

CharliesHoodie
05-23-2007, 09:27 PM
He first begins singing "You All Everybody" to cover the sound of Desmond in the water. If I understood correctly, later on he mentions something about the ease in writing a new song he's been working on and he sings a few phrases before being told to shut up by Bonnie. She punches him in the face and he agrees to shut up.

and have you seen the ending? like, the game-changer part? Because lostfan108, the person who knew about this all before, said that we would hear something very familiar from Charlie's stay in the LG on Jack's radio...?

cylune
05-23-2007, 09:27 PM
Am I hallucinating or Kate was wearing Charlie's hoodie? :D If so, that would be awesome! :D

The show won't be as good without Charlie. I'll miss him but I'm relieved he was at peace when he died.

Marcus
05-23-2007, 09:30 PM
and have you seen the ending? like, the game-changer part? Because lostfan108, the person who knew about this all before, said that we would hear something very familiar from Charlie's stay in the LG on Jack's radio...?

I have seen the ending, but it doesn't involve Charlie or a radio. The only radio that Jack has is the one that he takes from Ben, which links to Tom and the Others back at the beach. However this is not in the game-changer scene...?

Oh, unless you mean the radio in Jack's car! But I didn't hear anything to do with Charlie. Unless I missed something, but if I did I would say it was pretty subtle.

CharliesHoodie
05-23-2007, 09:30 PM
Have you guys seen the end yet?

Edit: Ok, nevermind. You have.

Can anyone else say anything about the radio in Jack's car and Charlie's song?

And is there indeed a body?

Desmundo
05-23-2007, 09:31 PM
and have you seen the ending? like, the game-changer part? Because lostfan108, the person who knew about this all before, said that we would hear something very familiar from Charlie's stay in the LG on Jack's radio...?

Thank you Hoodie, I was just about to ask this. Because a lot of us are wondering if Charlie does somehow make it, and that's how his song is on the radio in the rumored Jack' future flash back thats supposed to be at the end.

Carlo210
05-23-2007, 09:34 PM
I haven't seent eh ending, nor do I now what you guys are talking about, but is the 'game changer' Jack hearing Charlie's song that he didn't write yet? Just a guess. :S

Marcus
05-23-2007, 09:39 PM
Thank you Hoodie, I was just about to ask this. Because a lot of us are wondering if Charlie does somehow make it, and that's how his song is on the radio in the rumored Jack' future flash back thats supposed to be at the end.

I didn't notice a song playing on the radio in Jack's car (during the game-changer), but I can say with almost certainty that...

there's no way the song Charlie was singing in the LG could make it back to the "real world". He only sings a few lines of it and it's not that audible or clear.

The ONLY way it COULD be a possibility (though extremely slim at best) is if Desmond happened to overhear it, memorized it and then later on has someone record it. But I really don't see this as a possibility. Sorry, I hate to burst your bubble. :frown:

There IS a song playing in Jack's radio a bit earlier on...

It's blaring as Jack pulls up to a funeral home. It sounds like a Nirvana song, but perhaps this is the song you're refering to? I couldn't really make out the lyrics all that much, and it was sort of hard to make out what Charlie was singing (other than "You All Everybody"), but MAYBE they are one and the same. I just don't see how it could be possible though, since it would require Desmond to hear and memorize it, which doesn't really seem likely...especially considering the tension in the LG as Desmond is hiding...

alaylam
05-23-2007, 09:41 PM
I think people are thinking more along the lines of Charlie survives, is rescued as well, and records his song - which is then played on Jack's car radio (I didn't notice this when I watched though)

Also - any thoughts on who's funeral it was/who was in the coffin?

CharliesHoodie
05-23-2007, 09:43 PM
Yeah, that's kinda sorta what we were thinking. Because lostfan108 mentioned it.

But please answer! Is there a body? Or does Desmond leave him in the chamber?

alaylam
05-23-2007, 09:47 PM
I didn't understand what you meant before. The last scene we see of Charlie is him peacefully drowning in the water. Desmond is on the other side of the glass. We don't see either of them again after this occurs.

Marcus
05-23-2007, 09:47 PM
Yeah, that's kinda sorta what we were thinking. Because lostfan108 mentioned it.

But please answer! Is there a body? Or does Desmond leave him in the chamber?

There's no body, but I can't see how he could have survived. Once you see the scene, you'll know what I mean. Sorry...
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I think people are thinking more along the lines of Charlie survives, is rescued as well, and records his song - which is then played on Jack's car radio (I didn't notice this when I watched though)

Also - any thoughts on who's funeral it was/who was in the coffin?

My guess would be Sawyer?

lostfan23
05-23-2007, 09:48 PM
Yeah, that's kinda sorta what we were thinking. Because lostfan108 mentioned it.

But please answer! Is there a body? Or does Desmond leave him in the chamber?

regarding Charlie's body..

You see Charlie floating lifeless in the chamber as Des looks on. You don't see anything after that, but I guess Des will put on the scuba gear and grab Charlie, and bring him to the surface for the funeral. Also Des brought Charlies list down with him, so I wonder what condition it is in...I seriously doubt he survives that. But you never know, this is Lost...

alaylam
05-23-2007, 09:49 PM
If I was Charlie I would have tried fitting out the port hole that was wiiiiiide open and swimming to the surface. Guess he wouldn't fit? I kept hoping he'd try though... lol

PapaThor
05-23-2007, 09:50 PM
So it's possible that Charlie survives. Unless, they show us a body, right?

Wow! What a cliffhanger.

Desmundo
05-23-2007, 09:50 PM
There's no body, but I can't see how he could have survived. Once you see the scene, you'll know what I mean. Sorry...
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Aw, yeah. I thought maybe Desmond doesn't see it happening, like there's some steel door that shuts between them and Des assumes that Charlie drowns. But, yeah.

alaylam
05-23-2007, 09:51 PM
My guess would be Sawyer?

That was my guess too...

CharliesHoodie
05-23-2007, 09:51 PM
I don't understand how you can really drown without struggling. I'm not saying you're lying lol, because you're obviously not. But I'm just wondering, do we like, see his death? His body floating? Anything like that?

Edit: Ok! Nevermind. You already answered my question. This still all makes me feel better in some weird crazy way - that the last we see is him just floating, you know? I think I can deal with it. It leaves room for me to be in denial!

Hockeyking
05-23-2007, 09:52 PM
I haven't seent eh ending, nor do I now what you guys are talking about, but is the 'game changer' Jack hearing Charlie's song that he didn't write yet? Just a guess. :S


Are you people serious I just told you how the whole show ends and your worried about the game changer. Did you not read the whole thread.

If you would of read my other post i didnt want to spoil Charlies death. Or that once he shut the power off he received an incoming message. He answers it and it's Penny. He asks her if she is on the boat, and she replies that she doesnt know what he's talking about. That's when Michail knocks on the window from the outside and sets off a grenade, flooding Charlies compartment. He closes the door to save Desmond and writes a note on his hand to show Desmond. It said Not Penny;s Ship.

lostfan23
05-23-2007, 09:54 PM
I don't understand how you can really drown without struggling. I'm not saying you're lying lol, because you're obviously not. But I'm just wondering, do we like, see his death? His body floating? Anything like that?

Des hears Pennys voice on the radio, so he comes running. Before this you see Mikhail grinning out of the port hole with a grenade. So Charlie closes the chamber door to stop the station from flooding... His final act is writing "Not Penny's Boat" on his hand to show Des because Penny does not know who Naomi. Is. The room is filling with water and Des and Charlie share a moment, then he smiles, and drowns. He is just floating there.... pretty much dead.

alaylam
05-23-2007, 09:55 PM
I don't understand how you can really drown without struggling. I'm not saying you're lying lol, because you're obviously not. But I'm just wondering, do we like, see his death? His body floating? Anything like that?


Water comes rushing inside the room from the porthole that was blown open. As it fills the room, he stands there, ready to accept his fate. He writes a message on his hand to Desmond, who is looking through the window on the other side of the door that Charlie closed & locked to keep the water in, saying "not penny's boat". then he is completely submerged in water, they touch hands through the glass... Charlie is quickly fading... he floats backwards and does the "father, son, holy spirit" cross on his chest... and then he is motionless. that is all that we see.
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Are you people serious I just told you how the whole show ends and your worried about the game changer. Did you not read the whole thread.


Seriously. I listed every single spoiler back on the 3rd page or so. You'd think there would be more discussion about those points!