am I the only one who is sad that Tom died?

I realize that Charlie is the big emotional death in this episode, but hell, I really LIKED tom.
lol

He always gave me a chuckle and was generally a nice, cheerful fellow, with is his little snide remarks. Plus he was one of the Others who was ready to start going against Ben.

I am VERY saddened by Tom's death. I absolutely love the Others, so I'm obviously devastated at the deaths of Tom, Jason, Mikhail, Pryce, and the rest of them. I especially liked Tom and Jason. I wish Tom would've went out with a "bang", not the bang of a gunshot. Sawyer did get his revenge though ("You and me ain't done, Zeke.") Tom will certainly be missed!

I'm still on the fence with this one.

- Tom gave up, vulnerable and unarmed. It was mean just to kill him.

- Tom had no problem stealing a child away from his father. Sawyer kicked butt.

I'll miss Tom. I still believe he could have been good and was just kinda going along with whatever Ben said. Tom wasn't evil, just very easily persuaded into following Ben.

Tom had just finished chewing out Price for not having kill Sayid, Jin and Bernard. Sawyer made the right move. He had every reason not to believe Tom. How many chances is he supposed to give the man who already tried to kill him back on the raft and who would do it again in a heart beat at Ben's request?

I did enjoy the badass scene of Sawyer and Sayid (necksnap using his legs, c'mon, that's the most badass thing we've ever seen on Lost), but Tom's death was just sad and (as hurley pointed out) somewhat unnessescary. Although he clearly want's the Losties to not escape, he also is against Ben (as he mentioned Ben is losing his mind right before that scene), so he probably could've been turned.
Sawyer was probably right to kill him, but I'm still sad. This isn't about whether he SHOULD'VE been killed or not, it's just a mourning thread ;-)

Mikhail isn't dead...
That guy never dies, as we've seen. He just pulled the pin and swam off. Also he provided a good reason why Charlie didn't have to die. If he could swim out of the hatch and hold his breath underwater long enough to tease Charlie with a grenade, all while having a harpoon in his chest, Charlie easily could've held his breath with Des and swum out.

I know he died for a good reason but I was kinda sad to see him go.

It was nice to see Sawyer be the one to get him though.

I liked that Sawyer reminded Tom of the bad things they did even when they think of themselves as "the good guys." That was an important issue with The Others

Tom's death sadly made logical sense for the story - a "big" other had to die (and not Ben), so either Tom or Alpert (who for the past couple of eps seems to have become more important). But Alpert was there before Dharma, so need him around for his flashback!

Tom will live. The island will save him. Have faith in Jacob. ;)

Tom will live. The island will save him. Have faith in Jacob. ;)


He doesn't stand a chance as long as Hurley and Sawyer can bury him fast enough (just ask Paulo and Nikki)! :biggrin:

I guess that is why the Others don't usually bury their dead--they want to give the island time to work it's magic.

Sorry, I can't feel any sadness over Tom's death. Underneath that affable surface, he would have killed any of them in a heartbeat if Ben ordered it. He had it coming for kidnapping Walt, as Sawyer so aptly reminded him. "I didn't believe him," was an awesome line.

I'm with lostnthesoutheast and Professor Dez, Tom got exactly what was coming to him. As pointed out, five minutes before he died he was telling Pryce that they should have killed the shooters. So much the better that Sawyer was the one that did the deed.

Tom wanted to plug Sayid, Bernard, and Jin. He was a casualty of war on an island not under Geneva Conventions. I like the actor a lot (M.C.Gainey ?), and I shall miss him. Tom, however, got his just desserts.

I kind of have mixed feelings. On one hand he was my favorite real Other. (I don't consider Juliet to be an Other anymore). He had given up and it was cold to kill him like that, but I don't know if I would have believed him either.

I just can't shake the idea that Tom died only to show how far to the dark side James has swung. If the Cooper thing hadn't happened, I think Tom would still be alive. James was just using the Walt kidnapping as an excuse. He did it cuz he's no longer holding back his darkest impulses.

I shall miss M.C. Gainey. Maybe he will come back in a FB?

Yes, he got what was coming to him, agreed on that as I have said.

I just miss the character!

In the end, Tom wasn't all that differant from any of the other Others. He demonstrated touches of humanity, but would not hesitate to kill anyone who was poised to interfere in Jacob's plans for the Island. IMO, he got what was coming to him.

It's weird, how many of us are conflicted about Tom's death. I agree that he had to pay for his part in taking Walt, and who knows what else he's done while "just following orders."

However, I was beginning to like Tom (as much as I could like any of hte Others), and his death was sort of sad for me, too. But I agree w/ James--"I didn't believe him." Rightly said!

But yeah...RIP, Tom.

briar910: I agree; I didn't entirely trust Juliet at first, but now I believe that she really has thrown in her lot with Jack and the Lostaways.

I'll miss the affable guy from Othersville with a crush on Jack (you know he had one). But at the same time he was the creepy dude who was willing to kill a lot of people for the Others, so I wasn't really saddened by his death. I also think it might be meaningful that Sawyer killed an Other we had grown to kind of like, when he had surrendered... that maybe he's returned to the colder, distant Sawyer of S1.

In the end, Tom wasn't all that differant from any of the other Others. He demonstrated touches of humanity, but would not hesitate to kill anyone who was poised to interfere in Jacob's plans for the Island. IMO, he got what was coming to him.

I agree! I'm glad he's gone. He was creepy!!

I'll miss "they sort-of, know." I'd have loved to see his flashback.

Yes, he will be missed. Seemed like one of "the good ones."

I agree! I'm glad he's gone. He was creepy!!

I guess he was kinda like the creepy old dude who makes innapropriate innuendo comments.
But that's why he was so funny!

I guess he was kinda like the creepy old dude who makes innapropriate innuendo comments.
But that's why he was so funny!

You're not my type. Priceless.

am I the only one who is sad that Tom died?

I realize that Charlie is the big emotional death in this episode, but hell, I really LIKED tom.
lol

He always gave me a chuckle and was generally a nice, cheerful fellow, with is his little snide remarks. Plus he was one of the Others who was ready to start going against Ben.Well I'm not sad. I shouted with joy! Sawyer summed it up perfectly when he killed him. "That's for stealing the kid!" Tom was ruthless no matter how easy going he looked at times. Anyone that would steal a child from his father and then let the raft be blown up and possibly killing the father in front of the child is a heel. He got what he deserved!

Ready to start going against Ben? Is that why he said they should have killed Sayid, Bernard and Jin instead of putting 3 bullets into the sand? Doesn't sound like going against Ben to me. Sounds like he regretted going against him.

if any OTHER had to live I would want it to be Tom. He's the only one I really liked.

He got what was coming to him. I suppose we'll still see him in say a Ben flashback.

For a second I thought the title of this thread was "Rip Torn."

I find it very weird that the others have so far not killed a single survivor. except Charlie tonite. Yet the survivors have killed many of them this was also mentioned in an episode earlier. Tom and his group didn't even kill the survivors the just shot the sand so that Ben would think they were dead yet sawyer blasts tom in the chest when he is unarmed and surrendering.

Haha poor guy...he was just a follower. But Sawyer does have a point. LOL!

For a second I thought the title of this thread was "Rip Torn."



That made me L O L.

Anyway, Tom was an interesting character, but he was ruthless when he had to be. I guess people will miss his character because we've seen a lot of screentime with him in it and have grown attached to his role and story in Lost.

There was NOTHING to like about Tom. Yes the actor is awesome, but the character was an evil Other, period.

Remember Tom shooting Sawyer on the raft?

Besides, Ben in the hatch proved the danger in keeping an Other alive.

^Actually one of the twins shot him.

And "Besides, Ben in the hatch proved the danger in keeping an Other alive." is not a good mantra. I still say anyone who thinks all the others are alike is just wrong.

He got his just desserts for wanting to kill J, B and S but they shouldn't have made him say that. I wanted him to be another mutineer.

I find it very weird that the others have so far not killed a single survivor. except Charlie tonite. Yet the survivors have killed many of them this was also mentioned in an episode earlier. Tom and his group didn't even kill the survivors the just shot the sand so that Ben would think they were dead yet sawyer blasts tom in the chest when he is unarmed and surrendering.They may not have killed anyone (yet Ben sure did try to kill Locke) but they did everything in their power to terrorize, torture and hold them captive on the island. Who would blame someone for killing their captor if he did all those things to them? And if Ben had his way, all of the Losties would be dead.

They may not have killed anyone (yet Ben sure did try to kill Locke) but they did everything in their power to terrorize, torture and hold them captive on the island. Who would blame someone for killing their captor if he did all those things to them? And if Ben had his way, all of the Losties would be dead.
Umm, everyone seems to be forgetting Goodwin snapping the neck of the poor b*stard Ana Lucia thought was an Other and put in the Pit. Patchy shot at Sayid and Co. when they approached the Com Station (w/ obvious intent to kill) and Ben specifically said last week "if any of them get in your way, kill them." So while the Losties have definitely racked up a higher body count, it's not for lack of trying by the Others. (Not to mention poor Charlie getting strung up by Ethan; that wasn't a "threat". Charlie was legally dead for all intents and purposes.)

they did kill sceve. and other people (henry gale)

i liked tom, but sawyer was absolutly right to kill him. i do agree it was showing james's darker side, like STH said, but seriously, i prolly would have done the same thing. (and i was never in a room with cooper lol!) tom had sawyer shot, twice, tom kidnapped a child from his father, tom would have killed all three of the shooters had ben not ordreed him not to. he was also smiling when he held the gun to kate in THP and when he beat up karl. he liked violence, and was willing to kill any of the losties.
it's a war, and he was willing to kill prisoners in cold blood. so he deserved the same.

I won't miss Tom too much....

....when he first came on as Zeke I thought he was just plain evil, then he just got normal being Tom

I feel Tom was dealt with unevenly. Why spend most of season 3 building him up as a decent guy, only to have him become a one-dimensional "evil Other" again in the finale to justify Sawyer shooting him unarmed and surrendered?

I find it very weird that the others have so far not killed a single survivor. except Charlie tonite. Yet the survivors have killed many of them this was also mentioned in an episode earlier. Tom and his group didn't even kill the survivors the just shot the sand so that Ben would think they were dead yet sawyer blasts tom in the chest when he is unarmed and surrendering.


Come on, we can't pretend that the Others aren't all killers. How many members of the Dharma commune were armed when the Others killed all of them?

I felt bad when Tom died, but I got over it really quick! He did spare Jin, Sayid, and Bernard's lives, so I was grateful for that. However I won't be shedding any tears over his death.

I feel Tom was dealt with unevenly. Why spend most of season 3 building him up as a decent guy, only to have him become a one-dimensional "evil Other" again in the finale to justify Sawyer shooting him unarmed and surrendered?


Well the writers have a way of doing that to fan favorites just before they kill them off. Remember Mr. Eko. He was clearly on the path to redemption, right up until his final episode when he did a complete 180 and died because of it.

I'm pretty sure Tom'll be back.

But if not, here's to you, Swamp Thing.

Tom had just finished chewing out Price for not having kill Sayid, Jin and Bernard. Sawyer made the right move. He had every reason not to believe Tom. How many chances is he supposed to give the man who already tried to kill him back on the raft and who would do it again in a heart beat at Ben's request?

I agree. There were times where I warmed up to Tom, but after hearing how aggravated he was at Pryce for NOT shooting Sayid, Jin, and Bernard, I said "F- him" and I'm glad Sawyer did it.

Tom was about the only Other that I liked (including that rat Juliet) and it was a little bit of a shock that he was killed, but I have to admit that I bellowed out loud with glee when Sawyer popped a cap in him. It wasn't as good as when Hurley ran over Pryce (I was like HELL YEAH, when that happened) but as much as Tom was a good guy and ready to start going against Ben, it was too little too late. If he would've done the right thing long ago, he would have lived.

Sorry about your luck Mr. Friendly, say hi to Satan for me.

I am VERY saddened by Tom's death. I absolutely love the Others, so I'm obviously devastated at the deaths of Tom, Jason, Mikhail, Pryce, and the rest of them. I especially liked Tom and Jason. I wish Tom would've went out with a "bang", not the bang of a gunshot. Sawyer did get his revenge though ("You and me ain't done, Zeke.") Tom will certainly be missed!

I agree. There were times where I warmed up to Tom, but after hearing how aggravated he was at Pryce for NOT shooting Sayid, Jin, and Bernard, I said "F- him" and I'm glad Sawyer did it.


I never warmed up to Tom. For me, he was always the guy on the boat who said "We're gonna have to take the boy." Then they blew up the raft, leading Walt to think he was watching his own father's death. For me, that encapsulated all the evil the Others were capable of right there. I've always thought they should have simply reversed the order of the scenes in the S1 finale, the hatch first and then the raft. That kidnapping - and the destruction of the raft - remains the most chilling moment on the show to date IMO. And look at the tragedy it led to afterwards, with Michael driven to killing two fellow survivors out of sheer insane desperation. I totally felt for Sawyer getting Zeke dealt with, once and for all.

Our boys on the beach were awesome in their "take no prisoners" mode. And Juliet did fine too.

Sawyer certainly keeps his promises , I would have loved to see him kill Pickett aswell. Tom got what was coming to him - no debate on that one.

Awww, poor Tom! I'm gonna miss him. :undecide: However, he probably deserved it. I mean, he WAS a badguy. He was funny, but still bad.

wow, you ppl all hated tom when we knew he was the bearded man who took walt, now ya all in mourning? please.. im sooooooo happy he died, he was bad, cmon, who are you guys for? i never knew so many would turn and become "other lovers"..happy he died....everytime 1 of them dies i stand up and do the running man http://files.turbosquid.com/Preview/Content_on_9_12_2002_10_45_34/01-026.bvh_LargeThumbnail1.gif0299A37A-E712-4FC9-AEAC72BBB2F3F02B.gif

Sorry, but I have no sympathy at Tom's nor any Others death. I CHEERED EACH ONE OF THEIR DEATHS!!!!!!!! After everything they have done to the Losties, and even to Danielle, heck even the DHARMA initiative people, real Henry Gale, these people were the good guys??? REALLLY??? They all had it coming. Revenge is a dish best served cold, or with a vintage VW van.

I find it very weird that the others have so far not killed a single survivor. except Charlie tonite. Yet the survivors have killed many of them this was also mentioned in an episode earlier. Tom and his group didn't even kill the survivors the just shot the sand so that Ben would think they were dead yet sawyer blasts tom in the chest when he is unarmed and surrendering.

They shot the sand because Ben told them to, in order to fool Jack. Tom said "we should have really shot them."

It makes you think though...who really are the bad guys?

Well, obviously Tom was "badder" than Ben, because he actually was WILLING to butcher the three of them. Ben? Not so much.

It was great seeing Sawyer get revenge for the raft incident, but I would have liked it if they kept him alive and tried to get some info about, well everything, from him.

**note to mods: If this post would be better in the Season Three Everyone Else section, please move it. Again, I'm sorry if this is a repeat of an earlier post, but the traffic here is so heavy that I wasn't able to read all previous posts and determine if this was redundant.**


Most of the mourning is going to be concentrated on Charlie’s death, and understandably so, what with Charlie’s monumental heroic sacrifice, but I wanted to make a post mourning the passing of Tom.

First and foremost, kudos to M.C. Gainey for his outstanding performance as Tom. Already considered a terrific character actor, Mr. Gainey played an essential role in the evolution of the series with his nuanced portrayal of Tom.

Secondly, thanks to the creative team for adding layers of depth and intrigue to Tom’s persona. Mr. Gainey was unfortunately typecast into broad, threatening roles as bartenders and bouncers, so thank you to the TPTB for crafting a role which demonstrated the full range of Mr. Gainey’s talents.

Let us please remember that Tom was at the center of the series’ most crucial moments. Until Ben took central state in the latter half of season 2, Tom was the central face associated with “the Others.” The raft kidnapping still rankings among the series most shocking moments. In “Maternity Leave,” when we first got our glimpse of the Others as they actually are, the sight of a beardless Tom was a major moment in the history of the series.

Tom’s ominous monologue in “The Hunting Party” still stands as a highlight of the series. Here we find what we have since learned to be a compassionate and intelligent man pointing a gun into Kate’s neck, as the larger stakes of the situation remain unclear.

In season three, we found Tom to be a man who doesn’t like blood, but who can take command of even the most volatile situation. Tom’s comment that “it only took the bears two hours” is one of the show’s greatest moments of comic relief, and congratulations to M.C. Gainey for making a seemingly impossible contrast an enjoyable reality.

Tom’s murder was both a stunning moment of character regression for Sawyer and a totally understandable development, given the circumstances. I can’t blame Sawyer for killing the very dangerous man who kidnapped Walt and nearly killed Kate, yet I regret that Tom won’t be a part of the new storyline which details who got rescued and who stayed on the island.

To TPTB—please please PLEASE bring Tom back as you fill in narrative gaps and show Ben’s ascension within “the hostiles.” Please explain the fascinating dual element of Tom’s personality—a warm, gentle man and a cold-blooded killer, and please explain Tom’s origins—is he a “hostile” or a “Dharma” recruit?

R.I.P. Tom, aka “Mr. Friendly,” aka “Zeke.” (???-2004; if anyone is obsessed enough to calculate the date of the finale and current time, please provide a more accurate date).

Heres to Mr. Gainey! Ye shall be missed oh unpredictable one! Dont forget his great introduction to Jack when, after tormenting him in the forest and threatening his life and kidnapping him, he finally walked up to him in the OR and said as casual as could be..."I'm Tom by the way".

Tom was a great character. When a light moment was needed he came through. He was like the Others' Hurley.

A fave Tom (and Ben) moment (I'll paraphrase the actor's line's.):

Ben: Tom, where is your beard?
Tom: They kind of caught on.
(Ben gives a stare that could kill.)


Flash Poll Question: Whose beard looked more f'ake: Tom's costume beard from way back when, or Jacks "real" beard from Through the Looking Glass?

Umm, everyone seems to be forgetting Goodwin snapping the neck of the poor b*stard Ana Lucia thought was an Other and put in the Pit. Patchy shot at Sayid and Co. when they approached the Com Station (w/ obvious intent to kill) and Ben specifically said last week "if any of them get in your way, kill them." So while the Losties have definitely racked up a higher body count, it's not for lack of trying by the Others. (Not to mention poor Charlie getting strung up by Ethan; that wasn't a "threat". Charlie was legally dead for all intents and purposes.)
You are absolutely correct! Another reason I want to spend the coming long wait for S04 rewatching 1-3. There is so much that, while I do remember it, forget it in passing.
I feel Tom was dealt with unevenly. Why spend most of season 3 building him up as a decent guy, only to have him become a one-dimensional "evil Other" again in the finale to justify Sawyer shooting him unarmed and surrendered?I didn't see them as painting him as a good guy but as an idiot. I think he went from BadButtHillbillie to DumbButtGopher. He was just a follower and a blind one at that.

Come on, we can't pretend that the Others aren't all killers. How many members of the Dharma commune were armed when the Others killed all of them?Excellent point, too! And these were people that had fed, housed, educated and employed Ben. Never were they evil or mean to him ... that was the father's doing. For some reason, Ben believed that the Hostiles were the good guys and DHARMA was not. In cold blood totally!

Tom was a great character. When a light moment was needed he came through. He was like the Others' Hurley.

A fave Tom (and Ben) moment (I'll paraphrase the actor's line's.):

Ben: Tom, where is your beard?
Tom: They kind of caught on.
(Ben gives a stare that could kill.)


Flash Poll Question: Whose beard looked more f'ake: Tom's costume beard from way back when, or Jacks "real" beard from Through The Looking Glass?

I think the length and views expressed in this thread just demonstrate ow gret the writing is in this show. Tom was certainly not one dimensional although the "You should have shot them" line seemed out of character. It seemed that Tom had begun questioning Ben and was not such a hard liner. There are times though that he was played like something of simpleton like Lenny from the novel "Of Mice & Men".

I hope somebody turns the scene into an animated "OWNED!" gif.

I'll miss Tom, he was like the Hurley of the Others.

I think the length and views expressed in this thread just demonstrate ow gret the writing is in this show. Tom was certainly not one dimensional although the "You should have shot them" line seemed out of character. It seemed that Tom had begun questioning Ben and was not such a hard liner. There are times though that he was played like something of simpleton like Lenny from the novel "Of Mice & Men".

I don't think the "you should have shot them" line was out of character. We all know that even though Tom was a kind of a jolly guy, he was still bad. And those three had just killed 7 of his friends. 'Course he was going to be mad.

I loved Tom too, but I thought the way his death was handled was extremely satisfying. Yeah, he did take Walt off the raft, and that was about the most upsetting moment of the first season. And Sawyer, of all people, doesn't like it when people fuck with little kids. So he was the perfect one to take revenge for that. Go Sawyer!

I'm with lostnthesoutheast and Professor Dez, Tom got exactly what was coming to him. As pointed out, five minutes before he died he was telling Pryce that they should have killed the shooters. So much the better that Sawyer was the one that did the deed.

Sure, Tom could seem nice. So could Ben. So could Cooper.
They were all manipulative sociopaths who would project warmth and friendliness when it suited their purposes, and kill you without a second thought.

Good riddance.

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Although I am looking forward to seeing M.C. Gainey again in some future show. Awesome actor!

Sure, Tom could seem nice. So could Ben. So could Cooper.
They were all manipulative sociopaths who would project warmth and friendliness when it suited their purposes, and kill you without a second thought.

Good riddance.


I can't argue with that. I just wish they had made him more of a good guy and kept him around at least long enough for him to learn how to properly throw football.

And we still never found out his backstory. I'm guessing, then, he was your run-of-the mill native and not ex-DHARMA.

I hated him... I liked him... then i hated him again. Now oddly i like him.

i'll miss tom, his death makes three deaths this season of characters i like (eko and pickett the other two). :cry:

i have decided to have a 'm c gainey weekend' in tribute... 'a nice place to live' the a-team season 1 finale, followed by his turn as a corpse on csi and finished off with his first lost appearance.

may we be reunited with him in flashback... :(

Sure, Tom could seem nice. So could Ben. So could Cooper.
They were all manipulative sociopaths who would project warmth and friendliness when it suited their purposes, and kill you without a second thought.

Good riddance.

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Although I am looking forward to seeing M.C. Gainey again in some future show. Awesome actor!Or like Goodwin. Yep, they are the bad guys when we compare them to our guys ... but I fear somethin' even bigger is a-comin' ... and I think it's what Ben was trying to tell Jack. It's going to be the bad guy to end all bad guys. I think in the smoke and ashes of that confrontation we will forget Tom and all the Others that have fallen to the sidelines.

I can't argue with that. I just wish they had made him more of a good guy and kept him around at least long enough for him to learn how to properly throw football.

And we still never found out his backstory. I'm guessing, then, he was your run-of-the mill native and not ex-DHARMA.We might get it in another Ben back-story or maybe a Richard back-story (which I think we must have after seeing him with young Ben).

Thanks for this well-written recognition of Tom's contributions to Lost. My favorite Tom scene was the one from "The Man Behind The Curtain" where he sat calmly sipping camp coffee while Locke beat the crap out of Mikhail.

MC Gainey turned seemingly mundane moments into delights and rendered a menacing character multidimensional. I'll miss him a lot as well and hope he turns up in flashbacks next year...or has a Mikhail-esque resurrection or three.

Good character. But I hated him.

Sawyer delivered to him what is possibly the greatest line ever said on LOST.

"That's for takin' the kid off the raft"

great character, M.C. did a fabulous job, I would like to see Tom again in a flashback.

He was a monster however wanting to kill the three muskateers, but I sort of understand why, but still.

R.I.P. Tom, and thank you M.C. Gainey for a brilliant job.

Thanks for this well-written recognition of Tom's contributions to Lost. My favorite Tom scene was the one from "The Man Behind The Curtain" where he sat calmly sipping camp coffee while Locke beat the crap out of Mikhail.


"Mmmm, ya' just can't beat DHARMA Dark Roast!" That was a classic. Good pick, Surferdervish. :biggrin:

Mr. Friendly's death was quite poetic, and Sawyer's line, "I didn't believe him", was ironic, given what I believe really occurred. I'm sure Tom & his confreres never meant Sawyer et al. any harm, but that they were playing a dangerous game. It was all an act, but Sawyer wasn't in on it, and the problem was that he believed Tom's act too well! Previously Tom had gotten away with it, having winged Sawyer once on the boat (just wanted to shoot the gun out of Sawyer's hand, but too tough a shot from boat to raft), but this time Tom's number was up.

That's the trouble with a con act. Sometimes the marks have guns.

Robert

Yeah, I too will miss good ol' Friendly!

I always thought Tom would come over to the good side. I guess the writer's knew that and that is why they made him act like such a d*ck in this one.

I'm sad, but go back and watch Season 1 where they take Walt.
As a dad, I HATED him with every fiber of my being.
Also, because he took Walt, Mike shot both Ana and Libby.
Because he took Walt, the raft was destroyed and the Tailies beat the crap out of Jin and Sawyer.


He shouldn't have taken the kid off the raft.

Mr. Friendly.....you Were A Good Man. You Ol' Polar Bear You!

i'm pretty certain if tom had shot to kill in those earlier episodes, people would've died. (ok, i'm biased, sorry)

i'm also slightly worried by the amount of people that think shooting an umarmed man 'cancels out' a kidnapping. an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind people... plus, the losties like to think they are the 'better people', they could help us believe it by acting it.

but like i've said, i'm biased... feel free to ignore me. :)