View Full Version : How will Claire deal with Charlie's death
Dolphinjen 05-24-2007, 02:18 AM I wonder how she will hold up? They really seemed to be deepening their already special bond there in the last few days. I feel bad for her. The other woman can be happy that their mates (granted they're married) are safe and alive, and Claire will be discovering her Charlie is not coming back. I think she will be very proud of him, and in whatever way they can, the losties will honor him well.
Lunch 05-24-2007, 02:21 AM Oh no, I don't even want to think of that right now...:frown:
I think I'm still in denial and I have 8 long months to deal with it.
Pinjo 05-24-2007, 02:25 AM I think Charlie's death will be the key factor to convincing Claire to 'come back' to the island with the other Losties. She wouldn't want to risk Aaron's safety, but at the chance to avenge Charlie's death or see a vision of him (unlike other actors, I think Dominic would be more than happy to have a cameo) may overcome her.
Save The Humans 05-24-2007, 02:36 AM Claire's gonna hate getting on the helicopter. What has she got to go back to? Her disapproving aunt, who can be a baby sitter and negative influence on Aaron? Her mom, in a permanent coma? So she can go tell Malkin off?
Hey! Maybe Desmond will change THIS part of the future! She'll be preparing to board the copter. Desmond rushes in with the warning that it's NOT PENNY'S BOAT. Charlie DIED getting that message to him. Claire DOESN'T get on the copter. The new enemy is exposed. The losties flee, to prepare for war with these new people. Much tragedy ensues. Then, finally, a deal--we'll get you off this Island if you keep your mouths shut about us. (Remember Jack's line to Kate in the last scene: "I'm tired of lying.") Everyone who hasn't died in this conflict will get back to the outside world. Much misery ensues.
Ah, but back on topic. Claire will realize that Charlie's dead--and his last act was trying to save her and Aaron from an enemy they didn't know they had! He's gone, but he didn't "desert" her, like Thomas did. This is a quite interesting plot point. Hope it's gonna give Emilie more screen time next season!
Selene1212 05-24-2007, 02:37 AM She will find solace in Desmond's arms. :malelove:
lostgurl 05-24-2007, 02:40 AM I can't even imagine having to watch that. The last two episodes with Charlie were heartbreaking enough, now we have to see Claire losing Charlie. Not to mention poor Hurley, losing Libby and now his best buddy. There's at least one more depressing episode to come. :cry:
CBreeze27 05-24-2007, 02:47 AM To TPTB!!!! If it's not the plotline yet, here's a possible scenario!!!
Mikhail got to the hatch using an air tank. Desmond uses the air tank to go around and pull Charlie through the porthole (why Charlie didn't do this himself after the water finished going through and just swim up, I'll never know. It was just put in his mind HE MUST DO THIS because of Desmond's vision). But c'mon Des, everyone is 'manning' up. Go save Charlie boy!!!
lockesmithe 05-24-2007, 02:51 AM Well, if Claire's screen time during season 4 is anything like her screen time in season 3, then she'll deal with it in about two minutes. Three minutes, tops.
cylune 05-24-2007, 03:26 AM I want Claire and Aaron to live happily ever after. Old and happy. I don't want Charlie's sacrifice to be for nothing. And I want her to remember Charlie forever.
I wish they had a little more screentime this season. They were a great pair. The show won't be the same without them. They brought something very unique to the show. I wanted a happy ending for them. They deserved it.
lostfan4ever 05-24-2007, 03:27 AM I really hope we see some genuine grieving scenes next season. I hope Charlie's death isn't given just a quick one scene response. I hope we get a decent funeral.
THE BLUE 05-24-2007, 04:07 AM They will probably never mention Charlie's name again, do a good funeral and be done with that. The O.C. 2:mad: :mad:
erins 05-24-2007, 04:56 AM I think Charlie's death will be the key factor to convincing Claire to 'come back' to the island with the other Losties. She wouldn't want to risk Aaron's safety, but at the chance to avenge Charlie's death or see a vision of him (unlike other actors, I think Dominic would be more than happy to have a cameo) may overcome her.
Actually, I just read somewhere that Dom was at peace with being killed off Lost and kind of wanted it to be DONE and DONE. As in - no cameos. Unless he was Obi-Charlie. :biggrin:
THE BLUE 05-24-2007, 05:03 AM That's right, no cameo for Charlie. I think that's Dom's decision to never come back.
briar910 05-24-2007, 05:04 AM I hope they do his memory justice and that his death wasn't for nothing, that Claire and Aaron will be rescued.
THE BLUE 05-24-2007, 05:17 AM I hope they do his memory justice and that his death wasn't for nothing, that Claire and Aaron will be rescued.
I think there is no death as such to be 'for something', dead is dead, plain and simple.
Ladybug_ocean 05-26-2007, 01:23 PM I think I'm more sad for Claire and Aaron than Charlie. If/when she finds the ring, she'll have a hunch Charlie knew he might die. And she'll know Des had something to do with it. I'm curious to see if she thinks Des tried to prevent it or if she'll figure out he almost sort of brought it on. After all, Charlie wouldn't have done it without Des' vision.
-calypso- 06-08-2007, 06:36 AM I think I'm more sad for Claire and Aaron than Charlie. If/when she finds the ring, she'll have a hunch Charlie knew he might die. And she'll know Des had something to do with it. I'm curious to see if she thinks Des tried to prevent it or if she'll figure out he almost sort of brought it on. After all, Charlie wouldn't have done it without Des' vision.
His confrontation with Desmond is going to be interesting, at least i hope! I like these two together on screen, they have something! I liked Charlie and Claire too...but it's over...so maybe Desmond is going to have a better storyline this season :rolleyes: ...because saving Charlie all the time had to stop...it was useless and not so much interesting ...at least that's what i think!;) Desmond is great character and i hope they will use him in a better way in season 4!
(I'm talking on island! Because his flashbacks has always been great)
100%
She'll hold up the exact same way she does with everything. By turning into a complete bitch to everyone. For three seasons Claire has not cared about a single person or give a crap about anyone who can't do something for her. And even the people who can do something for her she doesn't care about she just yells at or manipulates into doing what she wants. Take Danielle in Maternity Leave for example........... Or Charlie in every single episode since the Pilot. Hah! Claire caring about someone? Not in this lifetime kids.
i agree at a certain level...she's a little selfish. I think she really learned to like Charlie but did she love him? I don't know... i can't wait to see her reaction when she realized he's dead!
Captain_Falafel 06-08-2007, 06:56 AM I think that realistically Claire will lonely and miserable for the rest of her life. Sounds harsh and horrible, but that is what the writers have brought on her.
Claire has...
- been abandoned by her father
- lost her mother to a coma
- been knocked up and dumped by Thomas
- been kidnapped, drugged and traumatised by Ethan
- had her closest companion on the island die
Claire was already a girl who had her barriers up. She holds back from trusting and caring about people, because she has been hurt/abused in the past. With Charlie she was finally opening up to somebody again. She had also found a man who was willing to be a surrogate father to Aaron. Charlies death is gonna hurt Claire bad. I don't think she'll ever allow herself to get attached again. It always ends in pain. She'll have Aaron when he grows up, but until then...
Claire "I'm on my own...and at least I know that now." :frown:
evanesco75 06-08-2007, 07:41 AM To be honest, my main interest in Claire was always linked to someone else: Aaron, Charlie, and Jack. She's pretty bland as a character, and TPTB simply haven't utilized this part enough, or built it up to a degree where I'd have an emotional investment in her.
I'm more sad Charlie's gone, and my only interest in seeing her reaction would be to see whether she understands the fact that this man gave his life up for her and her child. But as someone else pointed out, Charlie always seemed to care for her more than she did for him. To me, her main source of grief will probably lie in the fact that she doesn't have a 'protector' anymore. And then someone else might come along, like Locke did briefly in S2, and she'll move on.
Just my 2c :)
-calypso- 06-08-2007, 08:33 AM Claire was already a girl who had her barriers up. She holds back from trusting and caring about people, because she has been hurt/abused in the past. With Charlie she was finally opening up to somebody again. She had also found a man who was willing to be a surrogate father to Aaron. Charlies death is gonna hurt Claire bad. I don't think she'll ever allow herself to get attached again. It always ends in pain. She'll have Aaron when he grows up, but until then...
I think you have a point there, she has difficulty to trust people to open up to them because she's been hurt before...but i'm not sure she was completly open with Charlie...however she was in the process for sure ;)
I always thought her first scene with Desmond was very interesting because it tells a lot about her problematic (and his)...and i wonder if Desmond isn't the kind of guy who always run away...:rolleyes: i mean, we clearly saw that, this season, the girl he left in flashback before your eyes, and he was the one who left Penny for having his honor back :rolleyes: , she was asking him why he ran away :rolleyes: . To me there's something interesting to develop between these two.
here's the transcript of their first scene:
[We see Claire getting ready to give Aaron an injection.]
DESMOND [off camera at first]: You're wasting your time, sister. I shot myself with that stuff every 9 days for 3 years. [he looks at Aaron] He's lovely. Is the father here on the island?
CLAIRE: No. Nope, he's been gone a long time. Sort of walked off the moment he got a bit scared by the situation.
DESMOND: Well, maybe he knew he'd be a lousy dad—thought he was doing what was best for you.
CLAIRE: He was doing what was best for him.
Isn't it interesting that Desmond is trying to defend the father? :rolleyes:
awww, I cant even imagine it:( :rip: charlie :rip:
cool_freeze 06-10-2007, 12:11 AM Claire. I really don't know how she will deal with Charlies death. I picture that character going two ways. Either she would become very cold shouldered toward the rest of the islanders or she would become very sad and do something out of the ordinary.
Also, for those of you that hope Charlie isn't dead, I disagree. I really think that that was a good way for that character to end. He died a hero and his charcter seemed accomplished. IF Claire and Desmond get together though, I would be sick, but I don't think that would happen seeing that Penny and Desmond are in love.
CF
Mr. Find 06-10-2007, 01:07 AM Claire will not find out about Charlie's death, at least not in the immediate future anyway, She and Aaron will be "rescued" (for lack of a better word) before Desmond gets back to the Island.
shenobi_X 06-10-2007, 08:09 PM Easy answer.
Coake!!!
She will join the Others with Locke. She'll make this rash choice when she is given the ultimatium whether to join or leave the beach Losties
irish lost fan 06-10-2007, 08:44 PM Ideally a great situation would be if Claire got a flashback episode on the second episode of season 4.
Say she doesn't meet Desmond until the start of the second episode and he tells her about Charlie, then she goes about grieving him and he'll get a funeral/memorial. We will see Claire struggling with Aaron on her own and she'll find his D.S Ring, get his Greatest Hits. Flashback reveals her tough time with her horrible aunt and having her deal with her mother being in a coma and the realisation that her father wasn't dead that she was just abandoned. She goes through grief stages like in the flashback and at the end of the episode Juliet will approach her to console and something like this would unfold
Claire - "Im ok, I can take care of Aaron, Im all alone now and Im the only one who can do it"
Juliet - "Your not alone Claire, Jack is your brother"
Big shocked face on Claire.. then the Lost screen comes up
That would be an ideal situation for me, Charlie would get the send off he deserves and pb & j shippers and Claire fans would get some consolation from Charlie's death.
Realistically though, with TPTB, Claire will probably find off screen. We won't see her for 8 episodes and when she appears again a few weeks will have passed and she'll be fine.
cylune 06-10-2007, 08:50 PM Realistically though, with TPTB, Claire will probably find off screen. We won't see her for 8 episodes and when she appears again a few weeks will have passed and she'll be fine. :lol: yeah, given TPTB history with Claire, if she gets two minutes to deal with Charlie's death, that would like, a miracle. So don't expect to see much of a reaction from her.
molly1977 06-12-2007, 11:48 AM Ideally a great situation would be if Claire got a flashback episode on the second episode of season 4.
Say she doesn't meet Desmond until the start of the second episode and he tells her about Charlie, then she goes about grieving him and he'll get a funeral/memorial. We will see Claire struggling with Aaron on her own and she'll find his D.S Ring, get his Greatest Hits. Flashback reveals her tough time with her horrible aunt and having her deal with her mother being in a coma and the realisation that her father wasn't dead that she was just abandoned. She goes through grief stages like in the flashback and at the end of the episode Juliet will approach her to console and something like this would unfold
Claire - "Im ok, I can take care of Aaron, Im all alone now and Im the only one who can do it"
Juliet - "Your not alone Claire, Jack is your brother"
Big shocked face on Claire.. then the Lost screen comes up
That would be an ideal situation for me, Charlie would get the send off he deserves and pb & j shippers and Claire fans would get some consolation from Charlie's death.
Realistically though, with TPTB, Claire will probably find off screen. We won't see her for 8 episodes and when she appears again a few weeks will have passed and she'll be fine.
This would be a great way to have Claire deal with Charlie's death. It will give Emilie a chance to sink her chops into a real heavy storyline, it will show her greiving for Charlie (which the character of Charlie deserves), and it would let Claire know about Jack.
I will be LIVIVD :mad: :mad: :mad: ...if TPTB just gloss over Charlie's death the way they have everyone else's death.
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