To me, that does not bode well for Jules!

I can understand how Kate might not figure into Jack's future...having (possibly) been pregnant with Sawyer's baby (again...possibly) but wouldn't Jack and Juliet have some type of relationship after all of this?

Makes me think that Jules gets killed.

Maybe I'm stretching but a post island life that does not include Kate or Juliet makes me understand how Jack goes off the deep end. If Jules is alive...where is she?

Kate is driving a Volvo station wagon...pretty sure. That's quite the little suburban housewife ride isn't it? I just can't see Kate and Sawyer with a Volvo station wagon???

Yeah, really.

I was thinking the same thing. Especially when I watched the episode a second time today, all I kept thinking was that Jack was one sad, lonely guy. No Kate. No Juliet. No kid-sis-Claire. No contact with Sarah (the scene at the hospital is very sad). No one.

Depressing future for Jack. Did he bring this on himself? Hmm...

Do you think that it is safe to assume that Juliet does not make it off of the island alive?

Here's why I asked, assuming that Kate chooses Sawyer (or really anyone other than Jack) wouldn't Jack just continue the relationship that he started with Juliet?

I for one could care less about who chooses who, etc. I'll save that conversation for the ladies and Kate/Sawyer/Jack fans.

I just think that it really is telling.

Jack is highly unstable. One could say that is because of many different reasons not the least of which is that Juliet may have died.

Perhaps Jack chose Juliet...Kate went to Sawyer...and then something happened to Juliet (maybe even something that Jack caused)

This could explain Kate's obvious disdain for Jack in the last scene.
It could also have been the "straw that broke Jack's back"...so to speak and sent him off of the deep end.

I just find it hard to believe that the only person that post island Jack has to turn to is a post insland Kate that obviously no longer has even close to the same feelings for him.

Can't stop thinking about this episode. So much going on.

Perhaps everyone didn't get off the island. If Juliet and several of the losties were left behind, that might account for Jack's depression. He's the sort of person who would feel very guilty if he got off and everyone else didn't.

The FF was 2 years into the future so who knows how many women Jack hooked up with and drove away during his downward spiral. I mean what woman would stick around to watch someone they care about kill himself a little more each day?

The FF was 2 years into the future so who knows how many women Jack hooked up with and drove away during his downward spiral. I mean what woman would stick around to watch someone they care about kill himself a little more each day?

This could be but something tells me that Juliet had something to do with Jack's downward spiral.

We know that Jack doesn't end up with Kate so it makes sense (based on what we've seen so far...the island kiss for instance) that he would end up with Juliet.

I can't imagine that if the person in the coffin, who we assume was on the island...taken off island (against their will)...and then so despondent that he killed himself...would be taken from the island while others (Juliet for instance) that wanted off the island stayed. That one doesn't make sense to me.

My thoughts are that if the man in the coffin was taken from the island, then they were ALL taken off island....if that is the case then once again...Where is Juliet?

I'm surprised that Juliet not being mentioned by Jack off island hasn't caused more discussion here...just seems obvious that if they were all rescued, and Juliet was one of them...that she would figure prominently in his future.

Where in the episode did it explicitly state he doesn't end up with Juliet, or what became of her?

Jack was an absentee husband the first time around--maybe he tells Juliet that he's flying to medical conferences every weekend. Yeah, I know, sounds dumb, but my point is we've had suspension of disbelief so much already, that's not so much of a stretch. He cheated on his wife, so it's not unthinkable that he'd still hold a heart-felt crush on his first island gal pal.

I'm surprised that Juliet not being mentioned by Jack off island hasn't caused more discussion here...just seems obvious that if they were all rescued, and Juliet was one of them...that she would figure prominently in his future.

This flash-forward was clearly about Jack and Jack alone, with a pinch of Kate thrown in the last minute to make us go "huh?" It doesn't surprise me at all that there was not a roll call of all the characters.

I think even if Juliet and Jack made it from the island together, Juliet would have left him when he became a drug addict and alcoholic. Maybe even he left her because he didn't want her to be as unhappy and desperate as he is. After all, he's still a hero. ;)

Yeah I think if anything happened with Jacket, that Juliet probaly left him. I think seeing her sister would be the first thing she does, when she got off. Sure she likes Jack, but I think both will drift apart.

Just because Kate and Jack left the island, it doesn't mean that anybody else got to go. Perhaps Jack's "downward spiral" has to do with his guilt of selling out his fellow Losties and leaving them back there in order to get himself of the island.

When Jack tells Jules that he trusted her because he saw how bad she wanted to go home, I thought that the only way she would stay on the island is if she was killed on island. I can't believe that Jack would leave her if he was able to leave.

That's why I don't think she makes it.

He was trying to get them all rescued and has done nothing yet to tell me that he abandons the other Losties to go home. I think there is more to it. Either many of the castaways don't make it out alive or they do and just don't communicate as much as we expect them to.

I just can't believe the theories that Jack did something terrible by leaving the others behind. I think his dispair is from getting most (if not all...except Juliet) of them rescued only to see their lives go to hell after they left...much like our friend in the coffin.

I think Juliet is either still on island or in Miami with her sister (or dead). To me she's not in love with Jack she likes him that's all that's why she's not with him. And i don't think she's the one responsible for his depression.
Juliet is a sort of Gabriella to Jack.

As the Sopranos series finale taught us, whatever we predicit or think is going on doesn't even matter. But we shall see huh?

I didnt attribute Jack's depression to anything as trivial as his relationship with Juliet. I never really got the impression Jack had a thing for Juliet; sure they spent some time together, sure they kissed (rather dispassionately) but his deep sadness is rooted, I think, in something much more profound.

Basically, I think Jack's down cuz he left the island and he now knows that was a mistake cuz it was a magical, mystical place and he didnt realize that as soon as he perhaps should have. The coffin, if indeed it was someone from the island, was kinda like the 'nail in the coffin' regarding his feelings of remorse/regret...something that sorta caused his greif to sink in even further. Ultimately though, I think this is all about Jack returning to the island, not greiving the loss of a gal-pal like Juliet.

My vote is still for Jack feeing guilty for leaving his fellow losties behind. Sadly we have to wait 20,000 years to find out.

Plus look what happened with Jack and Sarah, Jack is obsessive look at his mission to get back to the island, he probably drives people away.

To me, that does not bode well for Jules!

I can understand how Kate might not figure into Jack's future...having (possibly) been pregnant with Sawyer's baby (again...possibly) but wouldn't Jack and Juliet have some type of relationship after all of this?

Makes me think that Jules gets killed.

Maybe I'm stretching but a post island life that does not include Kate or Juliet makes me understand how Jack goes off the deep end. If Jules is alive...where is she?

Kate is driving a Volvo station wagon...pretty sure. That's quite the little suburban housewife ride isn't it? I just can't see Kate and Sawyer with a Volvo station wagon???Here's an alternate theory for you. Jack's depression has nothing to do with either Juliet or Kate. Jack is depressed because there was a reason that they should not leave the island, both Locke and Ben said not to leave, and now Jack is suffering the consequences of his choice to leave. I think it is a reason more profound than a broken heart.