View Full Version : The Number Codes of the Missing Pieces (101 etc.)
BlackLotus 11-21-2007, 03:51 PM So what are they about?
101 seems to be later chronologically than 103 and 107 seems to be the earliest so far
are they in reverse order ?
it must mean something
any thoughts?
( as someone else pointed out an anagram of Neil time is time line )
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Episode 101 - King of the Castle
Episode 102 - Jack meet Ethan, Ethan? Jack
Episode 103 - Hurley and Frogurt
Episode 104 - Room 23
Episode 105 - Buried Secrets
Episode 106 - Operation: Sleeper
Episode 107 - The Watch
Episode 108 - Jin has a temper tantrum on the golf course
Episode 109 - The Envelope
Episode 110 - The Deal
Episode 111 - Tropical Depression
Episode 112 - Artz & Crafts
rabidranger 11-21-2007, 04:19 PM So what are they about?
101 seems to be later chronologically than 103 and 107 seems to be the earliest so far
are they in reverse order ?
it must mean something
any thoughts?
( as someone else pointed out an anagram of Neil time is time line )
Who knows? Current number of episodes: 69 (24+23+22) +16=85+16=101+16=117. Perhaps the numbers associated with the mobisodes correspond to something in that sequence? The numbers themselves: 4+8+15+16+23+42=108. Perhaps mobisode numebers relate to this string-the values associated with the Valenzetti Equation? Perhaps we're off our rockers and they mean nothing?
jane_eire 11-21-2007, 04:44 PM whispers
Starrox 11-21-2007, 06:48 PM I think they simply had to film the mobisodes in a different order and the production codes reflect that. It first happened in the first season, why shouldn't it happen with the Missing Pieces? :hide:
(Especially since getting guest stars like John Terry to Oahu for only one short scene is probably too expensive.)
Electromagnetic Anomoly 11-22-2007, 12:51 AM I think they simply had to film the mobisodes in a different order and the production codes reflect that. It first happened in the first season, why shouldn't it happen with the Missing Pieces? :hide:
(Especially since getting guest stars like John Terry to Oahu for only one short scene is probably too expensive.)
I Agree. If there are numbers we always try and make em work.
I'm more interested in the content then connecting the numbers.
BlackLotus 11-22-2007, 11:57 AM I think they simply had to film the mobisodes in a different order and the production codes reflect that. It first happened in the first season, why shouldn't it happen with the Missing Pieces? :hide:
(Especially since getting guest stars like John Terry to Oahu for only one short scene is probably too expensive.)
you may be right Starrox - but im not giving up on them yet :)
what first happened in the first season ? can you elaborate ?
Jynes 11-23-2007, 12:23 AM The order of the mobisodes so far:
107
103
101
The last three numbers of a standard Dharma Label: 731
DI 9FFTR731
Great Observation!!
also
107 = 1+0+7 = 8
103 = 1+0+3 = 4
101 = 1+0+1 = 2
So we have seen 2 vallenzetti equation numbers and the third episode numbers add up to 2. This could be an inside joke or they may trying to project us something greater
zagubieni 11-23-2007, 03:07 PM I think 107 is 1x07, 103 is 1x03 and 101 is 1x01. They were recorded in different sequence. :)
So we're waiting for 102, 104, 105, 106, 108, 109, 110, 111, 112 and 113. :)
Andromeda Irulan 11-24-2007, 01:28 AM I think they simply had to film the mobisodes in a different order and the production codes reflect that. It first happened in the first season, why shouldn't it happen with the Missing Pieces? :hide:
(Especially since getting guest stars like John Terry to Oahu for only one short scene is probably too expensive.)
I agree...I was thinking while watching Frogurt that what we're likely seeing here are short deleted scenes which TPTB decided to keep off the DVD's in order to have something to tide us over during the loooooooooong break (and to keep us in the dark about some things, although I'm not sure which; these all seem pretty meaningless to me). So the numbers correspond merely to fiming order.
seaquelost 11-24-2007, 11:26 AM I agree...I was thinking while watching Frogurt that what we're likely seeing here are short deleted scenes which TPTB decided to keep off the DVD's in order to have something to tide us over during the loooooooooong break (and to keep us in the dark about some things, although I'm not sure which; these all seem pretty meaningless to me). So the numbers correspond merely to fiming order.
Yeah, if I'm not misunderstanding what Carlton said at Comic Con, he refers to these mobisodes as being part of "original content"....deleted scenes as you've suggested.
".......we've been taking long-term about doing these Lost mobisodes which are going to be little short movies that you're going to be able to access on your cellphone. Those are still in process, we're hoping to get those down and out this fall, they might be the next thing you see in terms of original content on Lost apart from what's going to happen at 5:58 tonight!!!...."The 5:58 reference was, of course, the Orchid film.
BlackLotus 11-24-2007, 01:23 PM i think it might be something to do with the time line, with the number codes indicating some kind of order that we can infer something from connected to that time line.
time line reminds me of this statement about adam and eve by carlton
In an EW.com article, Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse answered the fan question, "What is the meaning or significance of the two skeletons that Jack and Kate found in the cave of season 1?"
CUSE: The answer to that question goes to the nature of the timeline of the island. We don't want to say too much about it, but there are a couple Easter eggs embedded in "Not in Portland", one of which is an anagram that actually sheds some light on the skeletons and hints at a larger mythological mystery that will start to unfold later in the season.
so i dont think the timeline/mystery really unfolded as they said and they may use the mobisodes to give us some 'further instructions' about how it works.
Electromagnetic Anomoly 11-28-2007, 12:34 AM Great Observation!!
also
107 = 1+0+7 = 8
103 = 1+0+3 = 4
101 = 1+0+1 = 2
10x = 1+0+X = ?!?!?!?
So we have seen 2 vallenzetti equation numbers and the third episode numbers add up to 2. This could be an inside joke or they may trying to project us something greater
10x = 1+0+X = 1 + X
I'm confused with this whole number thing being relevant.
Are we reduced to solving for X?!
Who and or what has four toes?!
Have birds been trained to say Hurley?!
Can February get here any sooner?!
Starrox 11-28-2007, 12:50 AM Hehe, I had no idea what adding a simple "X" to a production code can do... ;)
@BlackLotus: Sorry for not getting back to you sooner, I honestly thought I had already replied! Anyway, during the first season, they apparently couldn't film the episodes in the same order they later aired and so "Raised by Another" and "Solitary" have the production codes 107 and 108, respectively, instead of the other way around.
(Unless Matt Ragghianti, the former writers' assistant, made a mistake when he compiled the list he posted on the LB almost exactly three years ago and accidently switched two episodes!)
BlackLotus 11-28-2007, 01:48 PM Hehe, I had no idea what adding a simple "X" to a production code can do... ;)
yeah - i nearly fell for that too!
@BlackLotus: Sorry for not getting back to you sooner, I honestly thought I had already replied! Anyway, during the first season, they apparently couldn't film the episodes in the same order they later aired and so "Raised by Another" and "Solitary" have the production codes 107 and 108, respectively, instead of the other way around.
(Unless Matt Ragghianti, the former writers' assistant, made a mistake when he compiled the list he posted on the LB almost exactly three years ago and accidently switched two episodes!)
right that makes sense.
the new mobisode (the deal) doesnt appear to have a code yet but i think those codes may signify the order that they make most sense in.
im sure ive read somewhere that they are still being filmed. i guess they do them when they get the opportunity with the actors so the order in which they are released will depend on that.
Starrox 11-28-2007, 02:18 PM yeah - i nearly fell for that too!
Sorry... :hide: I'll change the title as soon as the real production code turns up on abc.com. :)
im sure ive read somewhere that they are still being filmed. i guess they do them when they get the opportunity with the actors so the order in which they are released will depend on that.
Jorge mentioned the mobisodes recently, maybe that's what you read, too?
Well I can only speak for me. I know the schedule up to November 27th. THats the end of 408. I also know that there are mobisodes to shoot during this time that have already been written so we'll knock those out.
Beyond that it depends when the strike ends. I don't know where you're getting your information. But I'm pretty sure we are still planning on going to air as scheduled. So there is still a good chance the strike won't interrupt anything because we have an eight week window at least.
We'll have to wait and see.
sandiego6656 11-29-2007, 02:06 AM i was thinking after watching the second and third mobisodes, it takes a lot of effort to put the characters back into moments that were previously covered. you recreate the set, get the right clothing, put on wigs or whatever to get just the right hair length. quite an effort to shoot only 2-3 minutes that will only be seen by a small percentage of LOST viewers.
How likely is that we will see extended flashbacks from these same periods in season four? Jack's time in Otherville. Hurley's missing evening when Libby died. Maybe that's what the number order is about. They match the season four episodes to which they correspond? I realize it's a stretch, since they've only shot through episode 8 right now, but aren't they also saying not all the mobisodes are complete either?
Anyway, if they are going to continue to literally cover "missing pieces" of time in the Losties' pasts, I hope we see a little of Kate and Michael's time with the Others as well. I still think they did something really weird to both of them.
PapaThor 11-29-2007, 05:32 AM The last three numbers of a standard Dharma Label: 731
DI 9FFTR731
"Standard Dharma Label" ??? I thought that the labels were different for the various stations, etc. Now, I am going to pay more attention to them.
Are there different numbers on other items? What else have I been missing?
Talk to me Jane.
waltisfuture 11-29-2007, 09:27 AM "Standard Dharma Label" ??? I thought that the labels were different for the various stations, etc. Now, I am going to pay more attention to them.
Are there different numbers on other items? What else have I been missing?
Talk to me Jane.
Janes not here! *Cheech & Chong reference* ;)
Dharma Food Labels - DI9FFTR731 (http://www.photogallery.longlostlist.net/albums/userpics/normal_S2E19_sos_000a.jpg)
All the Dharma items have the same label. An interesting tidbit we discovered about the DI label is that the last three numbers 731, which happen to be the order the mobisodes were shown in as well, could be a clue to Unit 731 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731). The most shocking, heinous, cruel crime the civilized world has ever known.
Unit 731 was involved in torture, limb removal, organ harvesting, Sarin gas experiments etc.
BlackLotus 11-29-2007, 01:56 PM hey WIF! **waves**
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Ok the credits are up for piece 4 - The Deal - its number code is 'episode 110'
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Sorry... :hide: I'll change the title as soon as the real production code turns up on abc.com. :)
looks like you fooled yourself too ! - you'll have to put 1xx from now on ;)
Jorge mentioned the mobisodes recently, maybe that's what you read, too?
thats right - thanks.
i knew i'd read somewhere that the filming was still going on.
lostmio 11-30-2007, 10:16 AM could be a clue to Unit 731 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731).
Altho the wikipedia article cites some unreliable sources and is therefore unreliable as to the true extent of what went on, it's indisputable that Unit 731 was a place in which people were used as guinea pigs for scientific purposes, and we can't even imagine the suffering that resulted.
That said, it appears that 731 has been used in fiction and drama as an sideways reference to science trumping human rights. This is certainly a Lost theme, and your mentioning it makes me wonder if some of the limbless people we've seen (notably Martha Toomey and Farmer Ray) were in fact victims of such experimentation. If so, and if there's an sinister entity (NOT Ben's others) that controls the island, and if there was a long-term conspiracy to put some of the losties on the island, perhaps Martha and Ray are working for the ''good side"...
Thanks for the think!
BlackLotus 12-04-2007, 03:37 PM the number code/episode of the 'operation sleeper' mobisode is 106
ill put the list together so far soon and we'll see if it means anything (or nothing)
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Episode 101 - King of the Castle
Episode 103 - Hurley and Frogurt
Episode 106 - Operation: Sleeper
Episode 107 - The Watch
Episode 110 - The Deal
i may be reaching here but i notice that the first letter of the title words in 106 and 107 contain the letters _OST W_
im wondering if there may be a hidden message in there including the word LOST
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