Elizabeth Mitchell as Juliet
Julie Adams as Amelia
Music by: Michael Giacchino
Costume Designer: Roland Sanchez
Edited by: Robert Florio, A.C.E.
Production Designer: Zack Grobler
Director of Photography: John Bartley, A.S.C./C.S.C.
Executive Producers: J.J. Abrams, Damon Lindelof, Bryan Burk, Jeff Pinkner, Jack Bender, Carlton Cuse
Co-Executive Producers: Edward Kitsis & Adam Horowitz, Stephen Williams, Jean Higgins
Supervising Producer: Elizabeth Sarnoff, Drew Goddard, Alison Schapker, Monica Breen, Stephen Williams
Producers: Ra'uf Glasgow, Pat Churchill
Co-Producers: Richard Peter Schroer
Story Editor: Christina M. Kim
Associate Producer: Kaleen Yamase
Teleplay by J.J. Abrams & Damon Lindelof
Story by Damon Lindelof
Directed by Jack Bender


Judging from the names in the credits, this is a deleted scene from ATOTC...

Ooh Amelia! Nice timing considering Find815.com. Here's the transcript that's up at DarkUFO's:

Mobisode #12 - “The Envelope”

[A timer is beeping. Juliet runs to the oven and gets her muffins out. She burns her hand. The doorbell rings. She runs her hand under water. It’s the woman from the beginning of ATOTC, Amelia. Amelia gets her something from the freezer.]

Juliet: I’m fine. I’m really fine. I just, I need to clean up before everyone gets here. Thank you.

Amelia: It’s him, isn’t it?

Juliet: What? Who?

Amelia: Ben. Did you invite him today?

Juliet: Thanks for [….Things are kinda awkward…]

Amelia: Finally told you how he felt, huh?

Juliet: He didn’t, he didn’t say anything. It’s just complicated. Okay?

Amelia: Complicated doesn’t make you cry.

Juliet: I burned my hand.

Amelia: That doesn’t make you cry either. What happened Julie?

Juliet: I think, I think we’re in big trouble.

Amelia: Are we?

Juliet: I need, if I show you something, do you promise not to tell anyone? Do you swear? Not anyone.

[Amelia nods her head. Juliet goes to a drawer and pulls out a large manila envelope from under the silverware tray. She starts to open it, and the doorbell rings.]

I threw my phone across the room :mad: -this is typical LOST with the fade to black and we found out nothing! What's in the envelope!?!?!?!?! Well, at least they're keeping in line with what they usually do-keeping me confused! Can't wait for 1/31 :)

The pics of Ben's tumor are in there I'd say.

My first thought of the envelope was an xray of Ben's tumor, but those envelopes are usually much bigger. But it looks like it could be a photograph of some kind. Otherwise she wouldn't need such a big envelope, she could just fold up a letter or note etc.
I think she meant that their plot against Ben was in trouble, because of the look on Amelia's face. But that was left intentionally ambiguous, just to keep us guessing.
This will serve to reinforce some of the theories that Ben and Juliet have some kind of history, or at least, he has romantic feelings for her which are not returned, given the scene of her with Goodwin.
I also found interesting Amelia's comment inferring it takes A LOT to make Juliet cry, burnt muffins and blistered hand doesn't do it. She's come a long way from the timid woman we saw in Not in Portland.

At first I thought it was the xrays too... but maybe not. If it was them why not just show 'em.
100%
This envelope seems smaller than the xrays. Does any have any pics?

My first thought of the envelope was an xray of Ben's tumor, but those envelopes are usually much bigger. But it looks like it could be a photograph of some kind. Otherwise she wouldn't need such a big envelope, she could just fold up a letter or note etc.
I think she meant that their plot against Ben was in trouble, because of the look on Amelia's face. But that was left intentionally ambiguous, just to keep us guessing.
This will serve to reinforce some of the theories that Ben and Juliet have some kind of history, or at least, he has romantic feelings for her which are not returned, given the scene of her with Goodwin.
I also found interesting Amelia's comment inferring it takes A LOT to make Juliet cry, burnt muffins and blistered hand doesn't do it. She's come a long way from the timid woman we saw in Not in Portland.

The only thing I can think of is, she loves Goodwin, but if her sister became well, she'd want to leave.
The envelope could contain:
a) Pics of Ben finding something out that could ruin their plan.
b) News about her sister
c) Something bad we didn't know about Goodwin.
d) Something like coffin. In other words, something we don't know anything about.

Watching it again within the context of the conversation it has to be Ben's xrays.

Logic would dictate that it's Ben's x-rays. The reason "they" (meaning the Others) are in big trouble is because of the fact that Ben has developed a tumor which exposes him as a fraud. Ben indicated that no one gets sick on the Island, and here he is developing a life-threatening condition. It's likely that Ben sold a bill of goods to everyone that he has recruited or encountered that is in his sphere of influence. This reveal peeled away some of the mystery (and vitality) of Ben's position, leaving the rest of the Others' role on the Island in doubt.

X-Rays!
or the writers guild contract?

This is a deleted scene from ATOTC and that's why it ends with a cliffhanger. It's the scene EM talked about in the audio commentary on the DVD.

I thought the mobisodes were not deleted scenes, but newly scripted and filmed, stand alone creations. I agree that is obviously the timing of this mobisode, but if they took the time to recreate all the details of this particular moment, there is a reason. It may not be an earthshaking reveal, but I believe this is newly filmed content, that is, since filming began on S4.

It may indeed be the scene EM is referring to, but it is my understanding these were all newly filmed scenes. Perhaps the commentary was made after the mobisode was filmed.

I'm sorry I don't have the DVD yet so I am not sure exactly what EM said.

Almost certainly the Xrays. Here's a summary of that time period on the island from Lostpedia. I've inserted a paragraph in brackets to indicate how well this scene fits:

Juliet's first three years on the Island were a battle between her and Ben to return home. Ben blackmailed her into staying after her six months were up by promising to cure Rachel's cancer, which, he said, had come out of remission.

During that time, she became intimate with Goodwin. While in bed with Goodwin, she told him that tomorrow she will have been on the Island for three years. The next day, Karl delivered X-rays showing Ben's tumor, which prompted her to confront him about Rachel's cancer status.

[The following day, Amelia (Earhart?) visited her just as Juliet burned the muffins she was preparing for a book club meeting later that day. Seeing that she had been crying, Amelia asked whether Ben was the cause, and when Juliet did not immediately confirm, Amelia pressed her by asking whether Ben had finally revealed his feelings for her. Juliet said that Ben hadn’t said anything, but it was clear she agreed with Amelia’s assessment about Ben’s feelings. She then said she had to show Amelia something, swearing her to secrecy. She pulled out an envelope that likely contained the tumor xrays.]

Later that day, she hosted a book club meeting about her favorite novel, Stephen King's Carrie. During the discussion, Adam called her Julie. Here, Juliet joked about a lack of free will, presumably on the Island, just before a loud noise prompted all of them to take cover and then go outside. Standing with Ben, Juliet looked up to see Oceanic Flight 815 break apart in the sky, meaning the Losties crashed exactly 3 years since Juliet first arrived on the Island.

NOTE: Juliet has non-DHARMA Popsicles in her freezer!
AND...It's now much clearer why Ben chose Goodwin for the mission to the Tail Section...risky assignment for his romantic rival.

You know what I just thought that would be a real mind cluck. What if Annie turns out to be Juliet? For some reason she loses her memory and is forced off the island and Ben brought her back. Probably holds no weight from what we have seen but it would be interesting.

I thought the mobisodes were not deleted scenes, but newly scripted and filmed, stand alone creations. I agree that is obviously the timing of this mobisode, but if they took the time to recreate all the details of this particular moment, there is a reason. It may not be an earthshaking reveal, but I believe this is newly filmed content, that is, since filming began on S4.

It may indeed be the scene EM is referring to, but it is my understanding these were all newly filmed scenes. Perhaps the commentary was made after the mobisode was filmed.

I'm sorry I don't have the DVD yet so I am not sure exactly what EM said.

No, it's that scene. Go and check the promo pictures of ATOTC at lost-media. It's exactly the same scene. They had 25 minutes of extra material for the season 3 premiere if I remember correctly and this scene was a part of it.

The mobisodes that contained new material were filmed at the same time as the episodes of season 4. The audio commentary for the DVD was done during the filming of the season finale.

TPTB have also said that every character would be featured in the mobisodes and as you can see, it didn't happen at all. JH, EL, TO'Q, EdR, HIC and NA didn't take part in any of them. That's why it isn't a surprise to me that not all of them are brand new material.

You know what I just thought that would be a real mind cluck. What if Annie turns out to be Juliet? For some reason she loses her memory and is forced off the island and Ben brought her back. Probably holds no weight from what we have seen but it would be interesting.


Ryan--that is awesome! Wow! Maybe finding out she is Annie and all the ensuing baggage is what turned her from meek and mild to the Juliet we see now.


Also, whether it is a deleted scene or not really isn't a big deal, we are just grateful for something new and interesting, yes?

This is the first mobisode to NOT be newly filmed material. I thought it was great. Obviously, it's a pretty significant scene if Darlton made a conscious choice to make this scene a mobisode instead of a bonus feature on the S3 DVD. That means this is canon now.

evil-p, you make a really good point. We have been told that the deleted scenes are not cannon, but just entertaining. So, I wonder why they made this one cannon? Do we need to know more about Amelia? About Juliet's mindset? About her relationship with Ben? We know we are seeing Goodwin in Juliet's upcoming FB ep, so maybe this is preparation for that?

X-Rays!
or the writers guild contract?

No,I think it's the WGA's Strike proposal;)
Yep,Juliet knew it was coming
and they were in BIG trouble:biggrin:

All joking aside, I think the strike might have played a part in us getting that particular scene. Maybe they ran out of original writing for the mobisodes and started to use deleted scenes since the writers can't write new mobisodes for the time being?

The writers of the mobisodes have a special contract just for this.. it was all over the news before they started.. as it being a sort of "example" for the networks to follow in resolving this...

I'm not sure it matters, a strike is a strike. They filmed these while filming S4 and when the strike started all writing stopped. The thing over the news was that this was a contract separate from the one for writing the series.

I think that applied to these as well, but I could be wrong.

Deleted scene or not, I was happy to see something new. I thought it was a good mobisode.

You know what I just thought that would be a real mind cluck. What if Annie turns out to be Juliet? For some reason she loses her memory and is forced off the island and Ben brought her back. Probably holds no weight from what we have seen but it would be interesting.


i think annie is going to be kate for the same reasons you think it's juliet.

You know what I just thought that would be a real mind cluck. What if Annie turns out to be Juliet? For some reason she loses her memory and is forced off the island and Ben brought her back. Probably holds no weight from what we have seen but it would be interesting.

Ryan, you're right - it would really be a WTF moment. Is it likely? Most likely not.
1. There have been many theories on characters on x = y, that is two characters we thought were distinct, are actually the same. None of these theories have really proven out to be true. (i.e. Jack is Jacob, this one has been debunked because the episodes showing Jacob, and Jack's FF would complicate the issue too much to be likely).
2. Why would Ben erase someone's memory, let anyone off the island, then bring them back? The only people let off temporarily were for Mittelos Bioscience, which is probably some faux system so the Others can integrate in the world as we know it.

But back to the original topic, I loved this episode mainly because I got to see more Amelia - she's mysterious and was in only 1 full-length episode, only for a brief period of time.

I don't really care that this was a deleted scene, unlike other mobisodes, simply because I got to see more of a mysterious character I like.

Only one more mobisode left, one last week of Flight 815 ARG, and then finally Lost Season 4 premiere!

Also Annie had brown hair Juliet has blonde hair. I think it is extremly far fetched to suggest Juliet is Annie.

While I don't think that Annie is Juliet - it's fair to say that maybe Juliet bears a striking resemblance to Annie - at least in Ben's eyes. Possibly puts what he said to Jack about Juliet being alike Jack's ex-wife in context as well. Interesting.

am i the only one who thinks annie is rousseau??

am i the only one who thinks annie is rousseau??

I was just throwing Annie being Juliet out there because it hasn't been mentioned before. But if it was someone we already now then my bets are on Rousseau.

What delightful ambiguity! Elizabeth Mitchell has it down, cold.

i think annie is going to be kate for the same reasons you think it's juliet.

But Annie would be in her forties and Kate is only 24.

I'm almost positive it's an Archie comic inside that envelope

Anyone make a joke about that new Apple laptop yet?

Judging from the names in the credits, this is a deleted scene from ATOTC...

Yea that's exactly what it was, as I just learned from listening to the commentary track for that episode on the DVD set.

But didn't they say that all the MP episodes would be newly produced scenes, and not merely deleted scenes? I wonder now how many more are just cutting room floor rejects.

Juliet as Annie ~~ that would be bizarre!
BTW, what is Juliet's sisters name?

I think Juliet looks like Annie.