What did you think? Rate it and then discuss the good and the bad. :)

Best episode ever. A round of Emmy's for evereyone.

There's so much to think about after this episode. I'm glad Faraday is one with the answers -- he is a fascinating character, both now and then.

I loved the passionate ending with Desmond and Pen!!


A 10!

I think this is maybe the second time ever I have rated an episode a 10!

Awesome episode. I'd give it a 12 if I could! :biggrin:

I am being completely level headed and honest when I say I think, without a doubt, this was the best episode we've ever had. 10, by all means.

Faraday has a new fan in me. I love this guy! He made this episode. I gave it a 9 but would have gave it higher except for the Desmond/Penny saga which I find boring. But other than that, it was an excellant episode that gives me so much to think about.

10! Possibly the best episode ever. 10000000x better than last weeks episode.

Best episode ever. A round of Emmy's for evereyone.

Henry Ian Cusick ruled tonight's episode!!! He should walk away with an emmy after tonight.

BTW...tonight was easily a "10"...maybe the best episode ever of LOST...right up there with the greats from season 1.

Loved the episode. Now I think I have a clearer understanding of the affect turning the key had on Desmond.

Wow! That was absolutely amazing! Best episode this season. There a lots of reasons I could offer, but right now I'm just going to say it was so so so good.

Truly an amazing, riveting, compelling hour of television. In my opinion, that was Lost's finest hour.

Kudos to Lindelof and Cuse for writing the best episode ever, and Henry Ian Cusick should start preparing his Emmy acceptance speech.

GREAT EPISODE! We now know why Faraday is the way he is:

The Radiation

The love story between Des and Penny tugged at my heart strings...and the reveal of the Black Rock was excellent.

10!

Had to give it a 10. One of the best episodes ever.

Lalalalalaloved it! Every scene was riviting ~ it was completely Mementoesque!

10.

Absolutely incredible.

It doesn't get any better than that folks.

Unbelievable, that was the BEST episode of LOST I have seen thus far. 10 out of 10.

I'm kind of speechless right now..........wow.

For me this episode was easily in the top 5 best of the series and a contender for the best ever. Not to mention easily the best of season 4, and a much needed jolt after another boring Kate episode (with all due respect to Kate's twist at the end). Desmond flashbacks are always great.

Can we go higher then a 10??? I LOVED this show :malelove:

I bow to the greatness of the writers!!! :77: :77:

Karri, can we have a sign that says we love the writers? PLEASE!

The best epi so far.... god almighty.... I can't wait for the rest.

Can my heart take it? we'll see! can't wait!!!!

I don't get to watch until I get home from work in 6 hours, but I like to peek at the poll to see how it's doing. I don't think I've ever seen one that has a 91% 10 rating at this point...this must be a really good episode!! :woohoo:

Wow. Just wow. 10 outta 10, cuz I love the whole Des-Penny, the show's only truelove story. An unexpected tear-jerker for me (cuz of Penny's coldshoulder). That phone call at the end was...intense.

On the flip side, this episode offered answers galore, just as Des said in the beginning, when Sayid asked, "why do you want to go to the boat?"

"Answers."

Answers indeed. So much to think about...the science guys must be thrilled with this episode. Looking forward to reading those threads in the days ahead...

That was basically a perfect episode. I can't really think of anything wrong with it. I pretty much have disliked the show since season 2 started but wow, that was really an excellent episode.

I dug the episode a lot...I gave it a 9...but I found the use of the idea of a 'constant' a bit arbitrary...maybe after I watch it again it will flow more smoothly...i did spend all day conferencing over student papers so my brain was already a bit melted by the time Lost rolled around.

what I didn't get, I guess, is how the 'constant' works...does it anchor Desmond in time? or does it give him more control over his movement through time? is he essentially cured now? if he's not, will he need to contact Penny every time he relapses?

maybe a second viewing will help clear this up.

Bravo!

This just goes to show you how good the show can be when you focus on the mysteries and the interesting characters and leave the triangle soap opera aspects out of it. No triangle whatsoever and a perfect episode. Will TPTB learn?

Best Episode Ever!

First 10 of the season...unbelievable episode. So much to wrap my little brain around. The time travel aspect was thrilling...and now we know that changing the past can influence the future. And that conversation with Desmond and Penny at the end was one of the biggest happy cries in the show. Amazing.

This just may have well become my favourite Lost episode of all time. Better than Flashes before your eyes, solid 10.

1. Answers. Legitimate answers.
2. I consider myself a fairly manly man.. it made my cry like a baby during the final Des/Penny scene.
3. Perfectly executed/directed.
4. Cusick's acting was unprecedented.
5. Sayid was the man, again.
6. Daniel was... man. Blew me away, again.

All reasons this was the best episode we've seen to date.

Fantastic. Loved it.

The phone call at the end was just so wonderful and emotional. So many twists to mull over and think through.

Excellent epi!!!:woohoo:

wow. I can't believe I went from 1 last week to 10 this week.:o I haven't gotten excited about a Lost episode in a long time.

Loved it, it was amazing... Mind blowing. I'm a full-blown fan of Daniel Faraday now. Love his character. It was a completely satisfying epi (at least the first time around, but I think it'll hold up!). I can't wait to watch it again.

MB

This episode is a solid TEN.

I was glued to the set... I didn't know whether Desmond would survive or not. My heart sank during the last commercial break when I realized it was 9:53! Time flies.

Gave it a 9.

Excellent, but it was missing Kate!:frown:

This just goes to show you how good the show can be when you focus on the mysteries and the interesting characters and leave the triangle soap opera aspects out of it. No triangle whatsoever and a perfect episode. Will TPTB learn?

Exactly. This episode is awesome theory fodder, and its human elements were awesome too. The triangle plotline can sod off!

AMAZING! Total 10!

10/10

Just terrific, so thought -provoking I'm still trying to wrap my head around the episode. I thought Henry Ian Cusick gave an outstanding performance. I always enjoy Desmond centric episodes and this was one of my favorites. Daniel Faraday is quickly becoming one of my favorite charcters on the show. I also think it was really well penned and another awesome episode in an outstanding season so far. I can't wait until next week. :)

I was literally speechless for 32 minutes, just trying to process. This is the best Episode of the show.

Gave it a 9.

Excellent, but it was missing Kate!:frown:

A 9 should not have you posting on the didn't love it thread.

I saw from last week, that a lot of people look at the # of Didn't Love It posts (w/out reading the actual posts) as an indicator of the audience response to the episode.
Just by posting, you put a tic in on the negative side.

AMAZING. Wow... just... wow.

obviously 10/10

as deserving as these ratings are, looking at the poll results are simply mindblowing. i've never seen such a consensus before.

edit: aw, cmon, who had to ruin it with a 5

as deserving as these ratings are, looking at the poll results are simply mindblowing. i've never seen such a consensus before.


I think Through the looking glass had similar ratings when it first came out.

10.

A major Lost mythology dump in the midst of a story that combined an edge-of-your-seat thrill ride with Lost's most interesting romantic couple. I've enjoyed all of this season's episodes, but this was special. Thanks.

Honestly, that phone call might have been The Most Romantic Moment on Television Ever. Seriously. That shit was intense.

I gave it a 10. Honestly, I don't think it could have been any better. Yes, half of the cast was missing, but since they were in last week's eppie, I wasn't missing them. HIC was INCREDIBLE. I am a huge DesPenny true love shipper, so I was bawling. OMG best romance scene of this show ever. I may be a Skater, but THIS is how true love is done. :heart:

More Questions. But tons of Answers. The Sickness? Brandon? Time?
Awesome Farraday. Amazing new character. I mean, seriously, this show is now going at breakneck pace and I love it.

Oh, best part of the show (other than the reunion) when Des flashed back mid-word from Sayid. I LOVED that directorial/editorial choice. It was so sudden and unexpected. I actually shrieked.

This was the best episode of Lost ever. I just hope Des and Penny get to reunite face to face.

I loved it!!!! This is by far one of the best episodes ever! Gave it a 10, of course!

10/10 best episode yet,
Desmond and Faraday are awesome

Fabulous, the best since FBYE!

I gave it a 10. It has to be one of the best episodes ever. Daniel is a great character! He seems to have the answers that the fans have been wanting to hear!

Great Episode!! I can't wait for next week! :)

Bravo! But? Wat Year is it?

My only complaint is that by the end of the episode, my head literally hurt. But that's a decent trade off for what is possible the finest hour of lost I have seen, an easy 10 in my book!

Honestly, that phone call might have been The Most Romantic Moment on Television Ever. Seriously.

I thought the quick cuts were seriously, mindblowingly cheeeeesy, but I have a heart of stone. ;)

I liked it much better than FBYE and it's the best episode of the season so far, but the preview for next week is what I'm more intersted in because as sacrilegious as this may be in LOST fandom I don't care about timetravel and never will.

Good solid episode and lots to talk about, but I have about five or six best LOST episodes ever I'd quote before this.

10, 10 and 10! I feel bad about rating the last one a 5, this so far exceeded it! Unbelievable! I *heart* the whole Faraday story, and can't wait until I can calm down enough to really start processing this epi! Thank you Lost, for renewing my faith in mankind's ability to deliver a brilliant, intriguing, and absolutely brilliant story!

That was fucking awesome. I'm not even going to bother elaborating, I'm just going to soak it in. Just when I think it's the characters that make the show for me, they throw in a fantastic mythology story. And if THAT wasn't good enough, they still threw in a wonderful character storyline - that the Constant ended up being Desmond's true love, I'm still tearing up just thinking about it. I haven't seen an episode so well crafted since Exodus 1 & 2. Loved it.

Loved it~!! I laughed, I cried, it gave me a headache! good lawd, my brain hasn't had to think that hard in a while. OMG!!, I'm so freaked out!!!!!!

We're back! I have been giving out nines and tens until last week's disappointing 6...this week I rated the episode a 9!

I didn't think I would be as excited about this episode as I was, since I have been kind of neutral about Desmond recently (although I did love his introduction back when he started). However, it was amazingly written, acted, directed, and edited. I ditto those who were impressed by choices like cutting Sayid off mid-word. Considering there was sadly very little of our original characters (except for Sayid--yay Sayid!), it was wonderful how riveting it was.

I have never been really that invested in the Desmond/Penny love story, not like I am about Sun/Jin, Bernard/Rose, and other LOST characters/flashback folks--but they sold me on it tonight! The romantic moment on the phone was really nice.

Daniel Faraday the spacy scientist is great, no matter what time we're in. Poor Eloise, though! :( We barely knew thee...and how cute was the Desmond Hume constant note in his journal...haha.

Sayid...just...rocks. That communications room was all ripped out wires, and he fixed it in a few moments. Go go gadget Sayid! Plus it was neat to see him share several moments with Desmond and be his friend, especially since his love for Nadia probably gives him something in common with him.

Oh, and I liked the clarification on how Desmond's time travel-esque power works, although I kind of understood it before. I loved when Farraday asked Jack if Desmond had been exposed to radiation or strong electromagnetism and Jack shook his head. Clueless about the hatch effects!

As always, looking forward to next week!

10, of course. This is why I don't give 10's to good eps like "The Beginning of the End" (8) or "Confirmed Dead" (9), because you've got to leave room for truely mind-blowing episodes like this. I couldn't think for an hour after the episode. And I don't go for the smaltzy romance, but I definitely teared up when Des & Penny said "I love you" in synch. Outstanding in every way. Add I wouldn't have believed I'd give a 10 to an episode without a second of Locke or Ben, go figure.

Fabulous episode!!! I loved it only slightly more than Eggtown (which was great too like most Kate episodes. I really don't understand why people have problems with Kate eppys, they're some of my favorites). Anyway the Des/Penny phone convo at the end was amazing! :D I gave it a 9 but may change my opinion to 10 on a 2nd viewing, I'm still taking it in.


ETA: Okay after seeing it a 2nd time now I understand why this episode is so awesome. 10 10 10 !!!

This was the best episode since Walkabout, I think. That good. Really an incredible thing, I'm still almost in shock.

Wow!!!
What an episode!
So many answers...So many more questions!
So.....is Dans present weirdness a result of the accumulative exposure to radiation in his lab?
What about the log of the Black Rock?
Dez's call to Penny in the present - best part of the show!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I WANT MORE - NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This was the BEST episode of LOST ever. It goes right next to the one with the light in the hatch coming on for the fist time.

Very inspired by VALIS Philip K Dick book who appeared in Eggtown!
It was a great episode!

I would rate it a 20, but its only up to 10. :biggrin:




TPTB, Carlton, Damon, Ian, Jack Bender thank you so much!
:thud:

Wow. Absolutely speechless. A perfect 10 from me :o I may not be particularly hard to please, but if I had doubts (perfect score or not) as far as the previous episodes go - there was no doubt for me here.

Not sure what to give it, but definitely not a 10. Unless I'm missing something, this episode just made a mess of the continuity. Desmond and Penny were acting like they hadn't spoken in 8 years, but what about their meeting when he was training for the race?

thats why she said "ive been looking for you for 3 years"...........

It maybe felt that way for Desmond once he realized the time difference between the past and the present (or present and the future if you like) - but there are no continuity errors as such - all the events in between still could've (and most likely did) happened - and 3 years certainly is a time long enough for their conversation to be as emotional as it was, just my take on it :)

thats why she said "ive been looking for you for 3 years"...........

Your missing the point. When they met at the stadium, she should have said, "What's up with coming to my apartment 5 years ago and telling me that your going to call me in another 3?"

I gave it a 10, it was excellent. The acting was right on. The emotions moved me! The storyline was out of this world and how cool was that?? Desmond going back in time to his old self?? Absolutely brilliant.

pibbsneaker
Your missing the point. When they met at the stadium, she should have said, "What's up with coming to my apartment 5 years ago and telling me that your going to call me in another 3?"


Maybe it did happen at the stadium. Theyre not going to show it again. :)

Only giving it a 10 because the scale doesn't go any higher! I'd rate it the best Lost episode ever aired. HIC definitely should submit this for an Emmy. Got to say I'm loving the addition of Faraday to the cast.

I gave it a 10. Awesome episode in every way.faints

Ahhhhh....FINALLY, Penny finds Desmond! Really cool twist of how they connect. One would think Penny would have been sitting right by the phone since she knew the date and Des told her exactly when he was going to call, but those writers wanted us to sweat it (what was that - eight, nine rings?!). LOVED IT!

I had mixed feelings about this episode. I loved Henry Ian Cusick's performance and the continuing love story between Desmond and Penny. I also loved that we are starting to get some answers (from Faraday) regarding the island. However, it definitely didn't have me on the edge of my seat the way the preceding S4 episodes did.

Best episode ever. A round of Emmy's for evereyone.

I said the same thing. BEST EPISODE EVER.

In my opinion, every Desmond episode has been a step above the others.

I gave it an 8. It was a really good episode and Daniel has been the best addition to LOST since we were introduced to Henry Gayle, but I really didn't get the OMG, best ever vibe. I wouldn't even call it the best this season, but the regurgitated "Back to the Future" storyline doesn't get me excited and I've always found the Desmond/Penny thing to be boring and did neither one of them remember meeting at the stadium in Los Angeles? I do think it'll be an important piece of reference material for upcoming episodes, although I hope not too much because LOST is convoluted enough without tossing in all the time confusion.

Many people who "loved" the episode are posting comments in the "Didn't Love it" thread causing the number of posts there to be misleading.

That thread is clearly marked for people who DIDN"T LOVE the episode. If you loved the episode, gave it a 9, but didn't like Desmonds hair (i.e.) THIS is the board to discuss that mixed feeling.

MODS PLEASE?????

A solid 9

I'm still not sure what to think. I'll need to watch this episode again, but right now, I liked FBYE more.

10. Tied with Walkabout for "#1 Mind-Blowing Epi" on my list. :D

Fantastic! Everything about this episode - the character interaction, the plot development and the dialogue - felt real and true. Compassionate Sayid? Wonderful. Desmond's visit to Professor Faraday? Priceless. Juliet and Charlotte snarking at one another? So much fun. Minkowski dying in Desmond's arms? Unexpected. The Christmas Eve phone call between Desmond and Penny was so moving. I gave it a 10. I'm glad Lost is back.

This was the best episode of Lost for me. I gave it a 10.
I loved that the theme was Des and Penny's constant love. I also like how someone opened the door for them. Plenty of answers, more questions, and pure excitement!

10/10 loved it, not a bad word to say
loved Faraday, loved dessie
loved penny

LOST: possibly the greatest story ever told !!??

I was spoiler free once again, and it paid off. Jack Bender is a wonderful director. the writers the producers keep wowing us/me. I dont often talk out loud at shows, but this one had me telling desmond to tell her he loved her before the call ended...
the unison of them saying they loved each other was perfect..

there are few moments in movies and shows now days that really take your breath away, at least for me.. alot of predictability in the writing, but NOT here.. just when i thought i couldnt be surprised.. once again they prove me wrong.

this is a 10.

I have a question guys, when is voting closed for rating the episode? I never seem to make it!

My Lost trifecta was MOS, MOF, DEM, and GH. After last night epi it is MOS, MOF, DEM, and TC. Freaking amazing!!!!

I thought The Economist was the best LOST episode ever . . . until last night. The Economist was so sad, whereas this one was not only rip-roaring science fiction, it was also sentimental and hopeful.

Loved Widmore buying the Hanso diary about the Black Rock. Such a small scene, but they used it to give us a huge clue.

I do wonder why Penny was so cold and negative in 1996, but by 2001 she was as constant as her namesake. Of course Penny had to have the negativity for it to be at all believable for Widmore to have given up the phone number ... but we have no clue about what changed between 1996 and 2001. Big plot hole that I hope will be filled later.

I was also sort of expecting to learn about Desmond's military infraction that led to the prison term ... whether it was derelection of duty that got someone killed because he was having one of his dream/unstuck in time episodes, or what ... going AWOL to go to Oxford wouldn't have been enough. But that's OK too, because that probably means there's at least one more Desmond flashback in the future (so to speak).

It was a really good episode

That it was.

I really didn't get the OMG, best ever vibe.

No, me neither, but I guess it's just because it's not my thing. I'm glad we have so much to discuss and any episode where we're given so much is EXCELLENT, but it didn't introduce us to anything we haven't been privy to at all and turn the show on its head (a la MOSMOF). I didn't like FBYE so I'm glad the writers did this and clued in their non-message board audience as to what's going on with Desmond's timetraveling, but the second most exciting part of the episode for me (#1 goes to The Black Rock) was the preview for next week because I can't wait to get to see people I actually care about move the story along on the Island as well. I'm not griping, this was necessary, I'm just saying upon closer inspection, it doesn't make my Top Ten favorite episodes, as much as I liked it.

I do think it'll be an important piece of reference material for upcoming episodes

Exactly. Best Episodes Ever for me are the ones that completely blow our perceptions out of the water and/or involve everyone to a degree. This episode was a good stepping stone and I suppose a wonderful emotional rollercoaster for those who are more involved with Desmond than I am (which is probably everyone...) But if only I felt lonely in fandom in this respect every week, we'd all be much, much happier LOST fans. :biggrin:

10/10
Pure genious.

After being innundated with the nauseating triangle/quadrangle of whatever it's supposed to be, it's heartwarming to see a tv romance like Desmond and Penny. They love each other... period. This episode provided a mind blowing storyline, answers and a reminder that true love is "constant", no matter what obstacles present themselves. Desmond and Penny are the epic romance of Lost, imo.

Rated 10. Best episode ever.

Wow, just wow! That was amazing!

I have a question guys, when is voting closed for rating the episode? I never seem to make it!

The polls don't get closed, you just need a certain number of posts before you can vote (or get an avatar etc).

This was, like, totally ZOMGWTF and SQUEEE for my so naturally I had to give it a 10, even though some stuff was, like, totally over my head and left me, like, "huh?!"

:biggrin:

No, seriously, I simply have to reward this episode with such a high rating because it showcased TPTB's incredibly top-notch story-telling skills as well as their unflinching determination to tell the story their way, even though some people might not "get" it. (I'm saying this because I actually had somebody come up to me in RL saying that this episode "tuned her out"... it was simply "too much" and she "didn't get it.")

:rolleyes:

Whatever, it was fab IMO. A 10 it is.

There's so much to think about after this episode. I'm glad Faraday is one with the answers -- he is a fascinating character, both now and then.

I loved the passionate ending with Desmond and Pen!!

Definitely agree here! I love Dan and Des and their interaction! It will be awesome to see how this plays out in the rest of the season. I'm hoping, of all the newbies, that Dan stays around awhile, because I really like him!

And that final scene -- with Des as Dan's constant: I can't wait to see how that will resolve itself!
100%
After being innundated with the nauseating triangle/quadrangle of whatever it's supposed to be, it's heartwarming to see a tv romance like Desmond and Penny. They love each other... period. This episode provided a mind blowing storyline, answers and a reminder that true love is "constant", no matter what obstacles present themselves. Desmond and Penny are the epic romance of Lost, imo.

Rated 10. Best episode ever.

Completely agree! This is romance done right! And the thing is, it's not simple, it's certainly not easy, but it is real and genuine and when you get down to it, Des and Penny are destined to be together and truly love each other.

They had a lot of bumps along the way, but to me the brilliant moment that encapsulated it all was when Des tells Penny, "I need your number -- I need to call you, but I'm not going to call you until 2004, so you have to wait, but I will call you." -- It perfectly showed just what their relationship is about: they are torn apart by so many people and circumstances, but they will, no matter what, get back to each other.

My issue with the other romances on the show, in comparison, is that they are written like a soap opera -- too much bouncing from person to person, no stability, no sense that Kate really cares for either Sawyer or Jack, but just goes to which ever one is handy. The exact opposite of "constant" ;)

As far as I'm concerned, the only satisfying ending to Des/Penny will be to have Penny help the O6 get back to the island someday, and for her and Des to finally be reunited in those final episodes of the series.

A 10, easily. I'm not an easy person to impress, but this episode was as impressive as FBYE. When a show ends and I'm emotionally exhausted, it's a special show.

My BF has been in Afghanistan for 3 years, so of course I'm right on board with the Des/Penny emotions.

Ian Cusick is the best on this show, bar none, IMO. Definitely Emmy material in this episode. That last scene could have come off sappy, etc., but he played it to perfection.

groundbreaking episode.. there is so much to digest that it requires multiple viewings. my favorite scene was the phone call between desmond and penny. it was extremely well edited, the quick cuts just made it that much more emotional.

I am pretty stingy with my points so a clear 9 for me. I love the Desmond Penny thing. I'm sorry. I'm a softy. And just a great overall episode.

Easily one of the best episodes ever!!!

Could I give this an 11? I gave 10s before, and this was the best episode in Lost history!

Well, Ian is a genius. I've always known that... but in this one... just WOW!

The consequences of this... my mind is on overload!

Having Des working together with boy genius Daniel just put the cherry on my cake. Thank you CC and DL, you are the Gods.

I gave a 10. First. time. ever....

Thanks Starrox.

One of the best I've seen on Lost! Brilliant! :D Desmond and Daniel are fantastic characters and held the episode really well.

10/10

The first twenty minutes or so were AMAZING. Then I thought my Des was about to die and my objectivity went out the window and I was kinda angry. But then it all worked out and he got to talk to Penny & live so I was back at giving this episode a 10. I loved it.

Definitely one of my top three LOST episodes EVER. Brilliantly written, directed and acted...this is exactly why I LOVE THIS SHOW!!

omg! best episode ever!!! I think they gave us the Kate, Jack and Sawyer "love" triangle last episode so that we can compare the true love between Penny and Desmond and the stupid "I have a crush on you" in which Kate, Sawyer and Jack have. I loved the tension when the phone was ringing, "Will she answer or not?" that was all I was thinking about. OMG! i'm still shocked! WOW! great episode EVER!! thank you writers! you are AMAZING!!!!

Awesome episode, I give it a 10! Des episodes never disappoint. I love the time travel story.

10+ absolutely fricken fantastic. I never, never tear up, and I find myself crying in joy over the last 3 minutes of episode. Wonderful. Awesome. Terrific. Beautiful.

Just when I think LOST could not possibly amaze and astound me more...The genius team of Damon and Carlton pull off this masterpiece!!! And the Emmy goes to... Henry Ian Cusick !! The directing, editing, EVERYTHING about this episode was perfect..Best hour of television I can remember!! Thank you Thank you Thank you LOST TEAM XXXX

OMFG!! Best Episode Evah!!
And I'm like a HUGE lost fan, I didn't even badmouth season 3's mini ark (much).Desmond's so hot I'm thinking of switching sexual preferences (just kidding honey, you know I love you) plus I loved the editing (particularly the scene when Dez falls on the stairs. I had read spoilers (guilty as charged, but I don't live in the US and I can't see the episode live, sometimes it's too hard to resist) and was thinking this would be too nerdy for anyone to enjoy, boy was I wrong! It's absitively posolutely fantabulous! (yes I'm also a simpsons fan)

Jaw dropping...
Amazing....
One of the best episodes of Lost, ever.

The Gunn Family

This is an episode that needs to be watched several times. Very good story.

THE BEST EPI SO FAR! I can't even remember how many times I said OMG! But the ending - they could not have written a better ending. I was so afraid someone was going to come through the door and mess things up when Des was calling Pen. But NOOOO, they did not screw it up! Whoo hoo! Des and Pen - a true adult love story. Kate and Sawyer, take a lesson, please!

In a very good season, I have been giving 8s & 9s, waiting for one of the extraordinary episodes to come along.

It did last night.

Sorry, if some of the stuff I have to say has already been mentioned as I did not read the previous posts. I haven't given an episode a 10 this season the highest I have given out is a 9 for The Economist. Anyway I had to give this episode a 10. This is a really great episode, just mind bending stuff. All I can say is WOW, thank you writers for this fantastic episode.

ETA: Plus any episode this well written that also features two of my favorite characters deserves a 10 :biggrin:

9 Fantastic episode. Answered lots of questions. Tied up lots of loose ends & did it honestly and true to the story, totally believable and begging even more explantions then ever. Classic Lost. Henry Ian Cusick was stellar. Loved the Farraday character. Especially in the past.
Awesome. Seemed like it only took 15 minutes to watch. Would have been a 10 but the Lost Team has raised the bar this season.

Definitely got a 10 from me -- I watch with banshee, and I think half our conversation consisted of "WHOA!" "I know, WHOA"

So, truly, whoa. I :heart: the scientific episodes, especially when they manage to blend some answers in to the morass of questions.

I give it a 10. For me too it was one of the best episodes ever! There was a lot of new information to digest.

Top 5 episode of Lost and top 10 hour of TV for me...simply awesome.

Fantastic episode! I'm not sure if it's because Desmond has the best back story, or if it's because Henry Ian Cusack is such a good actor, but the episodes centering around Desmond seem to be the best ones in the whole series.

I think this episode was excellent. Not the best episode ever, I still give that to TTLG for the sheer WTF moments.

I'm not a huge Desmond fan. He tends to always be hysterical or doom and gloom, but I really enjoyed this episode. The writers did a fantastic job of taking their time explaining the time travel, and I was able to fully understand what Daniel was stating. MUCH better than Flashes Through Your Eyes, which I really disliked because it was too confusing for me. D&C did a much better job on this one. I like the idea of a Constant because it makes sense. The idea of having something or someone that anchors you to a reality, whether it be in the past or the future, was a very smart idea, and Desmond and Penny's scenes at the end were very touching. I don't think they were apart for eight years though because didn't Desmond see Penny at the stadium when he met Jack?

I'm loving Daniel and Frank. They are my two new favorites. Last year, it was Juliet and Ben, and this year it's Frank and Daniel. They seem to be good guys, and I really hope that's the case. I think there are enough villains on the show, and I think Daniel is really intriguing. He really knows alot about the island. I'm convinced. Frank seems very practical and logical, and I'm hoping he becomes an ally of the Losties.

I also loved Jack's "Man of Science" reaction to everything he was hearing on the sat phone between Daniel and Desmond. He was so out of his element, and he was really freaked out by it. I know Jack knows that there are crazy things happening on the island, but he's starting to get more and more confirmation of that fact. I think Locke should have stayed on the beach because he would be getting a lot more information from Daniel than he is getting from Miles or Ben.

From what I gathered about the episode, radiation triggers this timewarp affect and not necessarily the island itself. Otherwise, why was Daniel affected and the mouse when they weren't even on the island? Why wasn't Mr. Echo and Charlie affected when the hatch blew up? Maybe it's because Desmond had a greater exposure. I'm still not sure how the island, itself, plays into the time travel aspect. It could be because it has a strong electromagnetic energy to it. Time will tell.

Very good episode. Next week's looks great too.

10, hands down.

Definitely the best episode of Season 4, and possibly the best ep of Lost ever? (still haven't decided on that definitively)

That scene between Des and Penny on the phone was AMAZING.

Superb episode!!! A definite 10. Loved the reveal of the time travel, and the Desmond/Penny interaction. What a touching ending! I'm really loving Faraday as well. Great character!

I gave it a 9 (I'm reserving 10 for an episode which will reveal something, proving that at least some of the things we saw in the past seasons happened for a reason). It was brilliant.

i would sell my soul to the devil before i gave this episode anything less than a 10.

best. episode. ever.

I'd like to rate the episode but have a message I cannot?????????:frown:

I'd like to rate the episode but have a message I cannot?????????:frown:

I think you need a certain number of posts before you can vote in polls. Be patient, you'll be there soon. :smile:

That was an awesome episode. I was impressed at how gripping the episode was and how moving Desmond and Penny's phone call turned out at the end. I wasn't as into the episode in the first half with Desmond ranting and raving, but past the halfway mark, it was amazing. I gave it a 9 out of 10 overall. It was a nice break to have a feel-good episode, with no Ben or Locke in sight.

this definitly deserves a rate of 10.
after slowing down in the last episode, lost is right back on track!
desmond again in a great paradox theme, an awesome farraday and most of all: the most heart-warming scene in lost so far, penny and desmond finally contacting each other, this was very intense. their story is truly one of the greatest love story i ever saw!

I gave it a 5. I just thought the time travel thing was a bit silly. I guess it works for most fans, lol.

I have to give it a 10, though I'm not sure how anything we learned fits into the "bigger picture."

This was, like, totally ZOMGWTF and SQUEEE for my so naturally I had to give it a 10, even though some stuff was, like, totally over my head and left me, like, "huh?!"

:biggrin:

No, seriously, I simply have to reward this episode with such a high rating because it showcased TPTB's incredibly top-notch story-telling skills as well as their unflinching determination to tell the story their way, even though some people might not "get" it. (I'm saying this because I actually had somebody come up to me in RL saying that this episode "tuned her out"... it was simply "too much" and she "didn't get it.")

:rolleyes:

Whatever, it was fab IMO. A 10 it is.Yeah sadly, LOST just isn't everyone's cup of tea. Sad commentary on the human condition when there are tons of reality shows exposing the worst of humanity, and only one LOST - making us think about the nature of humanity, and the consequences for our choices. Uh, maybe that's why. :laughing:

Still, in my 38 years, this is the best show I've ever watched - there's nothing that even comes close.

Yeah sadly, LOST just isn't everyone's cup of tea. Sad commentary on the human condition when there are tons of reality shows exposing the worst of humanity, and only one LOST - making us think about the nature of humanity, and the consequences for our choices. Uh, maybe that's why. :laughing:

Still, in my 38 years, this is the best show I've ever watched - there's nothing that even comes close.

I agree 100% with your post! I gave this episode a 10! :biggrin:

Best episode ever! I gave it a 10. I would have given it a 12 or 15... :grin:
The scenes with Des and Penny were beautiful!

I agree 100% with your post! I gave this episode a 10! :biggrin:Thanks, LostGirl68. You'll find a lot of like-minded people here, and yet . . . a lot of different opinions, but that's what makes it interesting. :wink1:

I see you're pretty new - welcome to the Fuse! :)

I had to give this episode a 10.

10.

I've always been a fan of Desmond-centric episodes and this one was truly remarkable!

Brilliantly written, directed, acted, filmed and edited.

Another episode that "breaks" the flashback/flashforward convention, reveals more about the mysterious properties of the island, the whole "time thing" (for lack of a better word at this point) and the side effects of turning the failsafe key in the Swan, while it compels you with the characters and their individual journeys as they intertwine in a "cosmic" sort of way.

Desmond and Daniel really made their marks in this one. Kudos to Henry Ian Cusick and Jeremy Davies for their inspired performances, and to Carlton Cuse and Damon Lindelof for giving them so much to work with.

When all is said and done... a truly thrilling, and fulfilling episode!


Honestly, that phone call might have been The Most Romantic Moment on Television Ever. Seriously. That crap was intense.

:hesaid: OR :shesaid:

Good episode all around. I've developed a bit of a resistance to new characters and new mysteries on this show over the seasons, but Jeremy Davies is an excellent addition to the cast and we actually get to find out what's happening to Desmond in the same episode, not in season 5! :cool:

OMFG!! Best Episode Evah!!
And I'm like a HUGE lost fan, I didn't even badmouth season 3's mini ark (much).Desmond's so hot I'm thinking of switching sexual preferences (just kidding honey, you know I love you) plus I loved the editing (particularly the scene when Dez falls on the stairs. I had read spoilers (guilty as charged, but I don't live in the US and I can't see the episode live, sometimes it's too hard to resist) and was thinking this would be too nerdy for anyone to enjoy, boy was I wrong! It's absitively posolutely fantabulous! (yes I'm also a simpsons fan)

Totally agree about that scene. I actually gasped and jumped in my seat. Also loved when he "came back" that one time in the radio room saying, "Trust me" and Sayid was all, "um, yeah" about it. :biggrin:

I'm liking Frank, too, and I don't think he's a "bad guy." I think he has some serious survivor guilt because he was supposed to be the pilot on that flight, so now he wants to help the 815 folks, etc.

I'd give it a 9. Excellent episode by all counts, but I was a little put off by the fact that everything was kind of tied up in a neat little bow, and despite the rollercoaster ride, we ended it in about the same place it started. I'm not used to warm and fuzzy endings...and it's funny how I feel like that about Lost, when with any other show I'd be happy.

However, this was very well-written, and I doubt I'd be alone in calling for an Emmy for HIC...and possibly even a Golden Globe. I'll be remembering his performance in this one for quite a long time. Excellently acted.

Probably the best episode of the last two seasons. Excellent!!

10 of course, its a Des episode and CC/DL wrote it.
I'd give it a 100 if I could. One of the best episode ever made.
; )

One of the best episodes ever, also awesome acting from Henry Ian Cusick

I obviously don’t have enough posts to vote, so I’ll give my rating here, instead. I’ve watched it twice, because I couldn’t decide for sure how I felt about a couple things from the first time around. Since I liked it more than I disliked it, I’ll start with the negative points and close with the positive points. Also, since almost everyone seems to be giving out a 10 or “best episode ever,” I’ll spend more time explaining the bad points IMO.

The Bad
Time travel. This has been hinted at for a long time (S1 and definitely S2 when Hurley and Sayid heard Glen Miller music on the beach), but it was finally confirmed in this episode. It looks like from other posts on other message boards, etc. this was going to be a definite part of the story some time ago, but I avoid ALL information that might be a spoiler- I don’t even watch the previews for the following week- I want to see the episode fresh without even knowing who it’s going to be about.

The reason I feel time travel is ultimately bad, is it opens up SO many problems with logic. When this is done, it creates all sorts of paradoxes and it will be extremely difficult for the writers to pull this off in a believable way, going forward. Another user, pibbsneaker, posted a very good argument for how the time travel was problematic on the “Neutral Thread.” I don’t how to copy from one thread to another with the quote box thing (not a big message board person), so I’ll just paste it here:

From pibbsneaker
“Haven't re-watched it yet, but what was the purpose of Desmond's jumping? Seems like it was just an excuse to get him to call Penny. She had already been looking for him by that point--she started that before his race--she already knew about the island, and she already knew that he was there when she talked to Charlie. It just seemed kind of unnecessary. I get that he had to call her so his brain wouldn't get fried, but if they hadn't introduced this jumping in the first place, he wouldn't have had to do it. Kind of like creating a problem just to show the solution.

I'm afraid that they've introduced paradoxes that have made the time travel aspects of the show even messier. Desmond went to Faraday and Penny in 1996 because of information that he received in 2004. Desmond then gave information from 2004 Faraday to 1996 Faraday that allowed him to build his time machine. This precipitates his involvement in the expedition to the Island. The same goes for Penny. Desmond gets the idea to call her from 2004 Faraday, asks her for her phone number in 1996, then calls her in 2004. She expects it, only because that information came from the future. So if Desmond is passing information back and forth between the past and the future, he should have already known everything that was going to happen up to the point where he leaves the island. Having him only selectively recall information from the future like Penny's number or Faraday's numbers is a cop-out.

Reliving the past like Desmond did in FBYE is one thing, but having interactions between the past and future and passing information back and forth between the two creates paradoxes and other problems that are simply not necessary.”

I agree with all of that. It creates all sorts of circular problems, like the question that jumped into my head, watching it the first time: When Penny met Des by the stadium back in S2- I think (when Des and Jack met running stares), she didn’t understand why he didn’t write her, etc. (daddy Widmore didn’t let Des’s letters through to her) why wouldn’t she have said something like, “Well, I guess I’ll wait for your call on Christmas Eve, 2004, then.” If someone came to you and asked for your phone number, but then said he wouldn’t call for 8 years (very bizarre)- this would kind of stick in your head if/when you saw that person from that point on. This is the problem with time travel plots- you open up a LOT of potential problems in logic. My main fear is that some really big problems are still to come- now that it has been confirmed that time travel is one of the mysteries of the Island.

The next thing I had a problem with was the time travel device zapping the rat. That was just lame.

Not much was really resolved here, regarding the huge amount of unanswered questions- a lot of excitement and entertainment, but not a lot of resolution once again.

I’m sorry, but the Des and Penny phone conversation was a little over the top at the end of the call (not terrible, but just a little over the top)- kind of like Daniel Day Lewis in Last of the Mohicans, “Stay alive!… I will find you!”

Lastly, many characters were missing in this episode, once again. This aspect was both a strength and a weakness. It was a strength because we were able just watch one story for a change (no stupid reunions on the beach, love triangle nonsense, or Hurley watching Xanadu). But it was also a problem, because now we are already 5 episodes in and many characters have barely been seen this season- most notably, the Island. But, if I’m being fair, this is why Eggtown was such a disaster. When you waste an entire episode like that, it has a ripple effect. You could have had a good episode on other characters last week, so then this week having a concentrated episode on Des would have been totally fine.

The Good

Pace of the show was excellent. Didn’t try to be funny, etc. Stayed on target the whole episode.

Directing & Editing were excellent. Cutting between past and future was perfect (especially when 1996 Des fell in the stairwell and we cut to 2004 Des falling on the table). Seamless & perfect.

Writing was very good- I still have a big problem with the time travel aspect, but the dialogue and rest were very good- infinitely better than the writing last week. I really liked the tie-in to the Black Rock and the Hanso family. Would like to see more of that story going forward.

Acting was very good. I don’t know about Emmy worthy, but very good. Then again, when you’re competing against ridiculous shows like Law & Order and CSI, maybe an Emmy is in order for HIC.

So, after all that analysis, I’d give it an 8. I think people are a little too liberal with giving out perfect 10s. It would have to be totally flawless to earn a 10 and the bad points outlined above explain why a 10 is out of the question IMO.

LOST RULES. this episode rocked <333.
and please. no more kate flashbacks, flashforwards. ugh. so boring.
this was better then the economist and most any episode of Lost and not only that I loved the love story.
Desmond and Penny is the true "love" story of Lost.

anyways. I really loved the episode and while there were more questions, there was also answers

We call it the BLE, Best Lost Ever! I've never given an epi a 10 til now. I knew I was saving that 10 for a really good one. Lots of info & Des talks to Pen!! Wow!

i gave The Constant a 10!!!!

Even though Lost is my favorite TV show of all time, I am not one of those Lost fans who give every Lost episodde a positive rating, no matter what. I gave Eggtown a 3.

After seeing the preview for next week I felt kind of let down that it would not be the Desmond/freighter story again. I cam't wait until we return to Desmond's story again!

Oh wow- is this one of the highest rated 'Lost' episodes ever?

I find this episode the best of the series to date.
My favorite part of lost is to theorize, and this episode allows me to theorize so many points. Past theories suddenly are in play again and the episode permits the creative viewer to discuss minor points from all of the seasons with a renewed significance.

I gave it a 10!

I've been away, so I've only had the chance to see the ep once and haven't read a single post about it yet. But I had to swing by and post my 10++++ rating for The Constant. Easily one of the best episodes EVER of Lost. The Desmond/Daniel pairing + the DesPenny reunion + the reveals about island time = pure gold.

I know I'm definitely in the minority here, but this episode really dissappointed me. I am so dissappointed that Lost is all about time travel. I was hoping it wasn't going to be a Sci-Fi Thriller, but rather more like a CSI mystery in which hard science was used to explain everything. Now I feel like saying, what the hay, it's all just based on pretend science. I'm sad.

I gave it a 10. The pace was fantastic. The acting - wow. I have no problem with this sort of time travel. To have the mind move seems more believable than having the whole body move. Kind of an astral projection type thing. It was also a good way to resolve Desmond's flashes. I don't think he'll be having them as often if at all anymore.

... I have no problem with this sort of time travel. To have the mind move seems more believable than having the whole body move. Kind of an astral projection type thing. It was also a good way to resolve Desmond's flashes. I don't think he'll be having them as often if at all anymore.

But time travel is time travel. It still presents the same paradoxes and circular problems in logic. For instance, the 1996 conversation of Des and Penny had to be real; otherwise, Des wouldn’t know Penny’s phone number in 2004 and she wouldn’t be expecting his call on Christmas Eve, 2004. It doesn’t matter if just his mind supposedly traveled in time- the time travel problems still exist and that is what I fear the most regarding LOST going forward. Can the writers make this believable by the end of the series or is it going to turn into some time travel, conspiracy theory, CIA espionage nonsense? If it does go down that road of clichés, it will leave in the ashes the plots that intrigued us from the beginning: good vs. evil; fate vs. coincidence; man of science vs. man of faith. Time will tell- I hope they can do it.

So, uh...I still need to watch this again. Right now, I'd give it a 7.5/10, because it's confusing me.

A definite 10 from me too. My first 10, HIC has been brilliant throughout.

To those who are worried about the time issues, I'd just say be patient and see if there is a way that all your concerns have been already been taken account of in the overall story arc. It's not as if the concepts in"Constant" were just dreamt up at the last minute.

Let's give the story time to develop!

I don’t how to copy from one thread to another with the quote box thing (not a big message board person)

It doesn't work with the quote box thing, that only works when quoting posts from the same thread (hit the little button with a + on it in the lower right hand corner when you want to quote multiple posts). Use the yellow-ish square up on the toolbar to get quote tags or just click on the quote button underneath a post. Hey, it took me months to figure out most of this stuff. :smile:

I think people are a little too liberal with giving out perfect 10s. It would have to be totally flawless to earn a 10 and the bad points outlined above explain why a 10 is out of the question IMO.

I'm not very cerebral when I rate episodes, I go with what entertains me and what I consider up to the standards of this show. So I understand that people were euphoric about this episode, but it's far from my personal Top Ten. I understand your issues and we're pretty much in the same boat re: time travel. To give you an idea, after The Economist, I was up three nights in a row discussing about Ben off the Island and how he ties into the Oceanic Six's lie, etc, etc, etc. but three days later, I'm so bored with timetravel, I tend to avoid this episode section.

I think the properties of the Island itself WILL interest me greatly and I'd love to have that Oceanic Six being the only ones who CAN leave the Island without getting unstuck in time theory confirmed, but whenever timetravel and pardox issues arise, I just go in my corner and wait for it to pass. I was a lot more excited about the previews for next week than I was about the episode itself although I enjoyed it and felt it was a major improvement over FBYE.

This episode gets a 10 because it had Faraday acting even weirder than I thought possible. Desmond was a sexy mess... and a clean cut mess. Penny and Des finally made contact Futhermore any episode with Sayid acting like Mcguyver is a automatic 10 IMHO.

Another Brilliant Desmond episode. Just loved it 10/10 ! Had a lump in my throat at end. Keep it up !

Wow, look at all those 10's! Awesome. Indeed, a great episode.

I hope we can get every episode from now until the end of the series to be this good!

Definitely a 10!!! Great episode, we got some answers, some romance, some Faraday weirdness, great writing, great acting! Poor Sayid though, he must've been sooooo confused!
Overall, it felt like a mini Lost movie to me which is great, and it kind of reminded me of "The Butterfly Effect" which I love too, so definitely a 10! It should win an Emmy!

Great episode! I‘m rating it a 9. Lost continues to intrigue and amaze me with the twists and turns it takes!

Definitely a 10!!! Great episode, we got some answers, some romance, some Faraday weirdness, great writing, great acting! Poor Sayid though, he must've been sooooo confused!

Yeah, he had one of the best lines with great delivery when he said to Desmond in the comm room that when this was over someone was going to explain everything to him. :biggrin: If that would have been Jack, Des would have died while Jack demanded to know everything right then and there. :rolleyes:

I'm in the minority, I didn't like how they handled time travel, others have pointed out the many logical problems with the scenario they constructed, so I will not go into that again. I gave it a 4 because the acting was fabulous all around, direction was flawless and the editing was good.

I'm not very pleased with the way they've handled TT, and they confirmed my worst fears when this time of storytelling device started to rear its head: these particular writers are a whole of a lot better at writing character drama than they are at writing sci-fi. I think they should stick to what they are good at, and stop playing around with anything that looks shiny.

The fact that they introduced time traveling in a way that can't possibly alter the story (as confirmed by Darlton themselves in a recent podcast) - "the Universe has a way of course correcting", "you can't change the future", etc. - leads me to believe that TT is something they did because they thought it would be cool and please the sci-fi fans: That is, if time traveling can't be used to alter the outcome, what's the point of introducing it anyway?

They have just confirmed the show is about Fate / Destiny, which is consistent with what they have been hammering into our brains repeatedly since the Pilot in S1, so. I don't think they advanced the overall story by that great a margin.

That said, I'm sure next week will be mostly satisfying for me, and the only thing that I will dislike is more triangle shenanigans

Oh wow- is this one of the highest rated 'Lost' episodes ever?
You might want to check out this thread (http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=83300) I worked on that compiled the rankings for seasons 2 and 3 (ranking threads did not exist for season 1).

The highest rated ep from those 2 seasons was The Man From Tallahassee, with an average of 9.079 and 491 votes.

As of this moment, The Constant rates a 9.579. So yeah, it's smashing the competition.

It doesn't work with the quote box thing, that only works when quoting posts from the same thread...

I'm not very cerebral when I rate episodes, I go with what entertains me and what I consider up to the standards of this show...

Thanks for the info. I didn’t think it was possible to copy from other threads, but I could have sworn I saw someone had done it- two quotes from two different threads, but I probably just had a Faraday moment.

I also primarily just go with the entertainment factor of the show when initially watching an episode. That’s why I don’t watch the previews for the upcoming episodes (don’t even want to know who it’s about). I like to record it, watch it and see where it takes me without any biases whatsoever. After watching this episode the first time, I was shocked to see the amount of “10s” and “best episode ever” posts. I thought it was good (especially due to the pace and directing), but when you’ve opened the door to who-knows-how-many potential problems (with time travel), how can it be a 10? That’s why I watched it again (I usually watch each episode twice- even Eggtown- still think that was the worst one ever) and felt compelled to give a detailed analysis defending why I thought it could not be a 10.

I'm enjoying reading everyone's thoughts.

Regarding the making things into quotes side conversation, you actually can make anything into a quote that is text. You just need to copy the text from another thread and then paste it inside quote brackets. If you don't know how to do it manually, it is the little dialogue bubble that is inbetween the "insert link" button (the little world with chains) snd the strikeout text button (the crossed out "S"). If you want to attribute the quote to someone, you can do that too by placing an equals sign after the first QUOTE in the quote brackets and the user name.

I'm in the minority, I didn't like how they handled time travel, others have pointed out the many logical problems with the scenario they constructed, so I will not go into that again. I gave it a 4 because the acting was fabulous all around, direction was flawless and the editing was good...

...The fact that they introduced time traveling in a way that can't possibly alter the story (as confirmed by Darlton themselves in a recent podcast) - "the Universe has a way of course correcting", "you can't change the future", etc. - leads me to believe that TT is something they did because they thought it would be cool and please the sci-fi fans: That is, if time traveling can't be used to alter the outcome, what's the point of introducing it anyway?...


Precisely. If the future can’t be altered, then time travel loses a lot of its power and dramatic effect. I remember a terrible time travel movie starring Jean-Claude Van Damme, Timecop, that seemed to actually have potential in Act 1 (despite Van Damme being the “star”). Bad guys went back in time to rob gold in the old west and buy stocks at the end of the great market crash in the 1930s to become rich, etc. That was actually kind of interesting- to see how the future could possibly be very different, if you could go back and change something here or there. If TPTB have definitely ruled that out for LOST, on podcasts, etc. (I was well aware of the storylines you quoted above- “Course correcting, etc.” but being TV, I figured these could possibly be changed)- now, I’m really concerned about the time travel aspect.

...I also primarily just go with the entertainment factor of the show when initially watching an episode. That’s why I don’t watch the previews for the upcoming episodes (don’t even want to know who it’s about). I like to record it, watch it and see where it takes me without any biases whatsoever. After watching this episode the first time, I was shocked to see the amount of “10s” and “best episode ever” posts. I thought it was good (especially due to the pace and directing), but when you’ve opened the door to who-knows-how-many potential problems (with time travel), how can it be a 10? That’s why I watched it again (I usually watch each episode twice- even Eggtown- still think that was the worst one ever) and felt compelled to give a detailed analysis defending why I thought it could not be a 10.

That's exactly why I gave it a 9. As an entertaining piece, the episode was very good but when it comes to "making sense" and "doing it fine", it wasn't excellent. I guess it all depends on the terms you're evaluating it. As I'm in the mode of "show me some direction" since Season 3, I evaluate the episodes as steps to the final answer(s). This episode as a step was indeed remarkable but at the same time it was a step taken on a slippery ground. Time travel and course correcting do not exactly bring a more logical explanation. "Course correcting" is such a general idea that it gives writers too much correction rights. What is "the course"??? When is a "correcting" needed?? I need to see the course and where it leads to, to be able to say that it was worth to see so much trial and error.

May sound stupid. This is the first time I rate an episode and I rated 10.
To me, it was simply perfect, well written, amazing, and I loved the Des/Penny storyline, which brought me to tears in the final scene. Perfect Daniel with his explanation to Jack regarding their "perception" of time. So far, it's the best episode ever!

Another brilliant episode, I gave it a 9 because I did miss the rest of the Losties, Henry gave a terrific performance though and while I wouldn't say it was the best episode ever, it was my fave Desmond ep. :)

I was out of town last week and couldn't watch until today. The best! A strong performance. Mature. One of the top if not the top episode of LOST. The pieces fit together, it was cohesive. Perfect!

I think this was the best one yet i cant vote in the pole yet but i give it a 10 all the way :kiss:

If its time travel - 1/10
If its not time travel 2/10
Either way it was a stretch of the imagination too far.
I just dont undrstand why you would like it unless you are a sci-fi fan.

One thing i did notice-
Rewatch 'the constant' about 25 minutes in, when Desmond has just arrived at what is supposed to look like Oxford University and begins talking to Daniel.
Now imagine that when Desmond first discusses time travel, that the responce that comes from Daniel is actually a responce from one of the writers.

"Why would i put you through the headache of time travel, you know what i mean, it just seems a little unnessesary, and dont you think my esteemed colleagues could have come up with something just a little more believeable, what kind of a prank is that, time paradox, so uninspiring!"

Hopefully that is a subliminal message from the writers confirming that a time travel storyline would be lame, if not I for one am tuning out.

However even if that was a subliminal message from the writers i fail to understand how they are going to be able to go back on 2 episode that took us down the path of time travel to definitively and come up with a plausable expalination now.

We've invested 4 years of viewing into this show when we were clearly lead to believe that there would be a 'real' explaination for everything. Time travel is possible in physics THEORY but it has also been proved impossible by the same people who came up with the ideas in the first place. I just hope the writers dont try and suggest that time travel is scientifically possible, because its not!!

I gave it a 9. HIC was amazing in this one, just awesome. I still don't like Penny though, and my '10' will have more losties involved. I loved everything else though, and Daniel is such a good addition to the show. All the time travel, or whatever it really is, confuses me, but I was loving it anyway.

I gave it a 10. Loved. It.

I just dont undrstand why you would like it unless you are a sci-fi fan.


I'm not a sci-fi fan, per se, and I loved it. Why? Nothing to do with sci-fi or time travel for me. I loved it for the characters, the acting, and the story, an actual story that sort of was told in a more traditional way (beginning/middle/end) for once in an episode. Not saying they should always do Lost that way, but it was a nice deviation.

Seriously, this was one of the best Lost episodes i've watched this season.
I absolutly loved it!:biggrin:

After the last few episodes I was starting to lose faith in this show, but this episode - and especially Desmond - have brought all my faith back. It wasn't perfect, but it's worth a 9/10.

10, simply because it was a Desmond epi. Although I did find it a bit wierd but thats alright I like wierd.

Absolutley loved it! it was brilliant never taut id like the time travelling but i dod and we finally saw Penny again....im also really startin to like daniel well i like that he hepled Desmond anyways. Delighted des survived i was kinda worried for a minute but all in all fantastic epi!

Seems like time travel is quite a popular theme nowadays. Anyways, this was an enjoyable episode....very fast paced. Desmond zooming back and forth in time was an exhilarating watch. Great acting by Henry Ian Cusick! And a very touching scene when Desmond finally managed to contact Penny!

9/10

I think that has been the best episode so far. The only thing that bothers me a little is that time on the island is supposed to be different from time off the island. Yet when Des called Penny, it was Christmas 2004. And it's been about 90 days since the crash on the island as well.

[lostrob - Dan did an experiment that established that Island Time is 31 minutes behind Off-Island Time. So it's still just over 90 days since the crash, wherever you happen to be standing.]

I gave this episode a 10. If I could have, I'd've given it a 20. Absolutely the best episode of the season so far. We had development on the Desmond/Penny story, Dan, weird timetravel stuff that gives you a headache if you think too hard about it.... and some good Sayid&Desmond moments on the freighter...

how could that get any better?

[lostrob - Dan did an experiment that established that Island Time is 31 minutes behind Off-Island Time. So it's still just over 90 days since the crash, wherever you happen to be standing.]

I gave this episode a 10. If I could have, I'd've given it a 20. Absolutely the best episode of the season so far. We had development on the Desmond/Penny story, Dan, weird timetravel stuff that gives you a headache if you think too hard about it.... and some good Sayid&Desmond moments on the freighter...

how could that get any better?


True, but Sayid, Des and Frank left the island and flew to the freighter. Island time was the next day. Real time was 20 minutes.

It was...OK.

I liked that it was fresh and original but at the same time it felt like a bit of a detour from the rest of the season that had nothng to do with anything. Also, only about four of the main cast featured in the episode.

It was by far the best!!!