Locke's side...
Hurley
Claire
Ben
SAWYER!!!!



Jack's
everyone else.....
Kate?????

Whose side did Sun & Jin go to? I'm assuming they stayed with Jack.

From what I could tell Kate, Sayid, Desmond, Benard, Rose, Juliette and a some red shirts were in Jack's group. I couldn't see if Jin and Sun were or not.

Lock's group includes: Hurley, Claire, Aaron, Sawyer, Ben, Rousseu, Alex, Karl some red shirts. Did anyone else see any different?

Kate, Juliet, and some extras were the only ones that stayed with Jack.
Team Locke rules.

i thought i saw Sayid go with Locke

Jin and Sun went with locke. did Desmond stay with Jack? Seems like he would go with Locke.

Sayid went with Locke. I'm sure Juliet stayed with Jack, although I was surprised they didn't show it.
Jin and Sun always stick with Jack, so I'm sure they did. It wasn't clear though, and I would only think they wouldn't if Jin understood more clearly what everyone back at the beach was saying about Charlie. If he didn't, then they stay with Jack. Plus, Sun is pregnant, no way Jin lets Sun leave Jack's side.

I find Desmond staying with Jack a bit odd too, but I did a rewind on the tivo and it looks like Des is standing there with Jack's group when Locke's group walked off.

Why would Des stay with Jack's group if he had first hand knowledge about the boat people?
100%
edited OP to include Alex and Karl in Locke's group.

I did a re-watch, again, and Desmond and Sayid are clearly standing with Jack's group as Locke's group is walking off.

What about Sayid and Desmond?? We didn't see them claim a side did we?? Or did they stay with Jack??

It looked to me like Desmond stayed with Jack too. I think Danielle, Alex & Karl went with Locke though...

It's interesting when you think about the fact that there are 4 groups on the island now. Team Locke, Team Jack, the Freighties, and the Others that went to the Temple. I wonder if the rest of the Others know that they have new visitors.

sayid and desmond went with locke

I find Desmond staying with Jack a bit odd too, but I did a rewind on the tivo and it looks like Des is standing there with Jack's group when Locke's group walked off.

Why would Des stay with Jack's group if he had first hand knowledge about the boat people?


Sayid and Benard stayed with Jack too, along with Des. They're also pretty savvy to the whole situation.
I'd figure that Des would stay with Claire since he saw her get on the heli in his flash.

I was SHOCKED!!!! When Bernard and Rose went with Jack.

I thought they agreed that they wouldn't leave the island and I thought Rose and Locke had a bond since both knew of each other's secret.

Yeah but Rose thinks Locke is a nutcase. She trusts Jack and believes in him.

I was SHOCKED!!!! When Bernard and Rose went with Jack.

I thought they agreed that they wouldn't leave the island and I thought Rose and Locke had a bond since both knew of each other's secret.

Good point Eight.
Rose must be getting senile or the writers slipped up.
Nice catch.

Sayid and Benard stayed with Jack too, along with Des. They're also pretty savvy to the whole situation.
I'd figure that Des would stay with Claire since he saw her get on the heli in his flash.Claire went with Locke.

I'm pretty sure if Desmond stayed with Jack it's to get to the bottom of why those people had the photo of him & Penny.

I'm thinking whoever sides with Jack are going to be the mentioned Oceanic Six.

It seemed so obvious at first taking in what we know.
Then bam!!!!
Hurley goes with Locke. how do these points tie together.
Interested to see how the parting of the oceanic six and the rest
will play out.

Hello everyone, I am a bit confused and was hoping you could help me out. Does Desmond go with Lovke and his group or stay behind with Jack and Kate, it makes sense for him to go with Locke, but it look like he stayed behind, and it never showed who stayed behind after the group left. Can someone please clarify? Thanks so much.

I was wondering this same question. It makes sense that he went with Locke. But it was somewhat ambiguous because it didn't show who stayed behind. It just showed the scene with Jack and Kate together.

Yea, and I am pretty sure I saw Desmond watching Locke's group leave, but it wouldn't make sense for him to stay behind with Jack.

Hello everyone, I am a bit confused and was hoping you could help me out. Does Desmond go with Lovke and his group or stay behind with Jack and Kate, it makes sense for him to go with Locke, but it look like he stayed behind, and it never showed who stayed behind after the group left. Can someone please clarify? Thanks so much.

desmond stayed behind... with jack.

i was surprised.

anyone know where sayid went?

I'm pretty sure Sayid stayed with Jack. Did Jin and Sun stay with Jack, too?

Yea I am very curious to find out who actually left, because I find it very surprising that Desmond would not go.

The only three regulars that went with Locke were Hurley and Claire (because of Charlie) and Sawyer (because of Kate?)

...and Ben and Alex, but whatever.

From what I could tell Kate, Sayid, Desmond, Benard, Rose, Juliette and a some red shirts were in Jack's group. I couldn't see if Jin and Sun were or not.

Lock's group includes: Hurley, Claire, Aaron, Sawyer, Ben, Rousseu, Alex, Karl some red shirts. Did anyone else see any different?

I think Jin and Sun stayed with Jack. And I saw it exactly the way you did.

Rousseau went with Locke as well, with Ben and Alex and Karl. Hurley and Claire, and Sawyer. Bernard and Rose stayed with Jack, as did Desmond, Jin, Sun, Sayid, Kate, and Juliet.

Jin and Sun went with locke.

nope.

Desmond stayed with Jack? I thought he went with Locke. I have to rewatch it now.

What got me most was Hurley later apologizing for going with Locke and not Jack. Just what is going on!?

I'm thinking whoever sides with Jack are going to be the mentioned Oceanic Six.Hurley sided with Locke but said he was one of the Oceanic 6.

Good point Eight.
Rose must be getting senile or the writers slipped up.
Nice catch.

I think it's more a case of Rose not liking Locke's behavior in the meantime since that long ago day when they shared their secrets.

yeah, Rose not only didn't go with Locke, she seemed disgusted by him.

I can see where the knife in Naomi's back probably alienated a number of people from Locke. Somebody like Rose, especially, is going to need more explanation than "All I have ever done has been in the best interest of all of us." He didn't get chance to explain his actions -- mostly Team Locke is those who agreed with Hurley's impassioned speech (faith), rather than Jack's logic.

Just noticed in a screencap: Looks like Vincent is also signed up for Team Locke. (lower right corner)
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I would think Des would want to know why Naomi had his photo if Penny wasn't the one who sent her. Plus the guy's been stranded on that island for 3 years, I'm sure he'd love to leave.

it is strange that Juliet would stay with Jack, while Ben would go with Locke. Both being others, one would think that they had some kind of inside info on the people on the freighter. I wouldn't think Ben would keep info secret to the others on why they (the others) are there in the event that someone showed up on the island like these freighter people.

Desmond stayed with Jack? I thought he went with Locke. I have to rewatch it now.

Yea, I paused the tivo when it showed a "zoomed out" picture. You could see Locke's group walking off in the the foreground and in Jack's group Sayid is standing in the front, and just back and left of him is Desmond. Juliette is to our right (Sayid's left) of Sayid.
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When Jin asked Sun where she wanted to go, she took 1 look at Locke and said she would never go with him.

When Jin asked Sun where she wanted to go, she took 1 look at Locke and said she would never go with him.That was Rose & Bernard, not Sun & Jin.

Any overriding rhyme and reason to who went where?

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I am totally confused now, I thought something completely different happened. Anyway, if Desmond did stay with Jack, it might be possible that he wants to find out who these other people are, and maybe even wants to fight against them, same for sexy Sayid if he stayed with Jack.

Makes sense that Sun would want to be close to the Doc.

My sis and I made a list prior to the show about who would stay with Jack and who would go with Locke. Mine was pretty acurate i have to say!! I kind of figured out the reasons people would go with Locke. I would go with Locke myself!!

I don't believe we saw Sun and Jin at all in this scene, so I have no idea where they went. I presume with Jack, cause of the Dr issue.

Makes sense that Sun would want to be close to the Doc.

I'm sure it's more important to her just to get her baby off the island ASAP.

Desmond went with Jack cuz his biggest priority is Penny, if these guys know anything about her he wants to meet them.

Id totally go with Locke, kinda surprised that Danielle did, but i guess if uve lived for 16 years in a paranoid cage its hard to start trusting people.

Was watching the show with my GF and she made an interesting comment while we went over ppls motivations:
MOST people would have someone important waiting for them at home, a child, a spouse, collegues, close friends, and important job even, but NONE of our cast has anything like that, except for the other people on the Island they have noone.


-Exodus

Desmond must have some sort of plan because they did not make any real thing about him staying with Jack... it wasn't even shown.. so they are obviously trying to make us not notice?

Desmond went with Jack cuz his biggest priority is Penny, if these guys know anything about her he wants to meet them.

Id totally go with Locke, kinda surprised that Danielle did, but i guess if uve lived for 16 years in a paranoid cage its hard to start trusting people.

Was watching the show with my GF and she made an interesting comment while we went over ppls motivations:
MOST people would have someone important waiting for them at home, a child, a spouse, collegues, close friends, and important job even, but NONE of our cast has anything like that, except for the other people on the Island they have noone.


-Exodus

Danielle has already said that she will never leave the island. Plus, she will go wherever Alex goes--and Alex is going home, with her estranged dad.

Rose apparently thinks life with John Locke on this freaky island would be worse that a slow, peaceful death off-island. She may be right.

THe one I can't figure out is Kate. I have never, ever understood Kate's desire to leave the island. Maybe a prison cell is more comfortable than sleeping on the beach under a tarp, but still.

we're gonna find out next week so theres really no point in getting all hung up on whose with who because it'll be obvious in the next episode :)

I was SHOCKED!!!! When Bernard and Rose went with Jack.

I thought they agreed that they wouldn't leave the island and I thought Rose and Locke had a bond since both knew of each other's secret.



"I'm not going anywhere with that man"

However, I am not so sure that she went with Jack either. I think that there may be a third group. Even if that third group is just Rose and Bernard.

So, are we seeing the begining of two groups. The Faith (Locke's) and Science (Jack's) camps? Now that there are no Others to speak off (more like a disbanded groups headed for the hills).

I am wondering if the point of the division is to put a whole chunk of Losties in a place where they neve make contact with the freighter folks and hence never even get the option of leaving. Right now we have yet to see the ship and don't know if it can even reach the Island. Also why the need to parachute in. Why not swoop over the shore to do some recon on the Island first?

Desmond. of all people, it seems like he would have gone with Locke. he was there as Charlie died and knows it isn't Penny's boat. hmm

I think just because people go with Jack that means they're not suspicious of the freighties. I think people stayed with Jack because Locke has been in Sawyer words on a tour to blow up everything that can get them off of the island. Sayid, for instance, strike me as the type of character that would be suspicious of the freighties. And his words seem to indicate that.

It is weird that Desmond didn't go with him. You would he would but he didn't and I guess there is a reason. I am surprised more didn't leave Jack after they realized what he did in almost killing Locke....this was bad for Jack and think will have repercussions later on this season.

But yes Desmond definitely should have gone....WTF??!!

Yeah I'm kinda shocked he didn't go with Locke, but like Locke said if they change there mind they know where to find him.

I admit my memory is a bit hazy. Exactly who joined Team Locke, and who stayed with Jack?

Locke: Hurley, Sawyer, Claire, Ben, Alex, Rousseau

Jack: Kate, Sayid, Rose, Bernard, Jin, Sun, Juliet

I'm not sure who Desmond went with. I think he went with Jack.

And Karl went with Locke.

Locke: Hurley, Sawyer, Claire, Ben, Alex, Rousseau

Jack: Kate, Sayid, Rose, Bernard, Jin, Sun, Juliet

I'm not sure who Desmond went with. I think he went with Jack.

Desmond did stay with Jack. I wasn't sure either but when I rewatched the episode I made sure to pay attention, and he was on Jack's side and never moved. Makes you wonder why he stayed with Jack when he knows it's not Penny's boat.

And why did Jack let Ben go with Locke? He told Rousseau he didn't trust Ben with anyone but him.

And why did Jack let Ben go with Locke? He told Rousseau he didn't trust Ben with anyone but him.

Heh, good point. But he also said, six hours from now, none of it is going to matter.

OR. SO. HE. THINKS.

Dun dun dunnnnn-ln-ln-ln-lnnnnn

Desmond did stay with Jack. I wasn't sure either but when I rewatched the episode I made sure to pay attention, and he was on Jack's side and never moved. Makes you wonder why he stayed with Jack when he knows it's not Penny's boat.


Good point! Maybe Desmond's had another flash, and he knows he needs to be on Jack's team.

Desmond. of all people, it seems like he would have gone with Locke. he was there as Charlie died and knows it isn't Penny's boat. hmm


yes I was quite baffled by that also...

Locke: Hurley, Sawyer, Claire, Ben, Alex, Rousseau

Jack: Kate, Sayid, Rose, Bernard, Jin, Sun, Juliet

I'm not sure who Desmond went with. I think he went with Jack.

Rose and Bernard didnt go with Jack....all she said was that she wasnt going anywhere with "thatman" meaning Locke...but she doesnt want to leave the island because of her cancer...

As far as I'm concerned, Hurley and Claire are on Team Charlie. So is Desmond on the other side, but Desmond wants to see what the deal is with these people and why they claimed they were sent by Penny.

Danielle is on Team Danielle. So are Alex and Karl, who were born on the Island and Alex was just reunited with her mom. What would she be doing in the outside world. Danielle told Jack earlier that she's not leaving the Island and he acknowledged that so it's not like Danielle decided to stay because she's mesmerized by Locke's charisma. The only original non-redshirt castaway who followed Locke was Sawyer.

Jin and Sun are definitely staying with Jack for now. Jin has told Sun in two different season finales to stay with Jack if she wants to be safe and she's going to DIE in a month if she doesn't leave the Island. Rose might stay, but she's not going with Locke. I think she'd rather take her chances with cancer.

I think just because people go with Jack that means they're not suspicious of the freighties. I think people stayed with Jack because Locke has been in Sawyer words on a tour to blow up everything that can get them off of the island. Sayid, for instance, strike me as the type of character that would be suspicious of the freighties. And his words seem to indicate that. This is a good point. But to put it in perspective, it may be their only chance to get off the island, whether Penny sent the boat or not. They only have the word of a madman (Locke) and a liar (Ben) that it could be dangerous. They're not in a position to wait for a lawsuit-proof, 100% sure thing.

It is weird that Desmond didn't go with him. You would he would but he didn't and I guess there is a reason. I am surprised more didn't leave Jack after they realized what he did in almost killing Locke....this was bad for Jack and think will have repercussions later on this season.

But yes Desmond definitely should have gone....WTF??!!
Desmond is and almost always has been on Team Desmond, whose primary goal is to get off the island and back to Penny. He was almost - but not quite - willing to let Charlie take the arrow to fulfill his vision. I think he's going along to find out what these people are all about, and see if there's a chance of leaving the island anyway. Let's face it, Desmond might be one of the people best suited to discover whether the people are sent by Penny or not, by asking a few questions only someone who knows Penny and her situation would know the answer to.

Desmond is and almost always has been on Team Desmond

Great point, and so true. And I think it does explain why Des stayed with Jack, even knowing what he did about Charlie's message. (Well, they all knew, but he witnessed it firsthand.)

Interesting thread.
I am wondering about Des. Yeah I agree he went with Jack. I also agree he is on Team Desmond (where do I sign up????). I have to also point out that parts of Desmond's flashes have proven to be wrong. (The flashes he was having when Naomi dropped for instance; Des always saw Penny.) If he chose to stay with Team Jack because of a flash, is there the possibility that he is staying for the wrong reason & false prophecy? (Of course there is, this is LOST. :rolleyes:)