We are slomoing through the cabin scene.

That 1/2 face we see is NOT Locke. It is not Charlie.

Any other guesses?

That would be Jacob.

Indeed :)

Jacob was in the rocking chair, I think it was Locke's eyeball.

Well it sure doesnt look like Locke to me...It is Jacob's house after all :)
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Someone else posted a pic on another thread, it looked like Christian in the chair

Christian is in the chair. I was hoping the eyeball could be ID'd as a current character.

But perhaps it is Jacob in human form?

Well it sure doesnt look like Locke to me...It is Jacob's house after all :)
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Someone else posted a pic on another thread, it looked like Christian in the chair

Makes sense that Locke would return there though, after unsuccessfully preventing Jack from calling for help.

Jacob was in the rocking chair, I think it was Locke's eyeball.

It definitely is NOT Locke. Locke has blue eyes. The eye seen is clearly NOT blue.

Screenshots of the cabin scene
http://www.docarzt.com/who-is-in-the-cabin.php

now look carefully at the second image. Cant see much right. Nothing but white shoes.

Now for those who have seen the last missing pieces clip dont those shoes look familiar?

The eye almost looks like Desmonds

Screenshots of the cabin scene
http://www.docarzt.com/who-is-in-the-cabin.php

now look carefully at the second image. Cant see much right. Nothing but white shoes.

Now for those who have seen the last missing pieces clip dont those shoes look familiar?

Shoes, yes.

But what about the eyeball in the window?

I think the eye looks like Tom's but he's dead so I don't know.. :(

The eyeball (or face) close to the window was Jacob (although I agree it looked a bit like Desmond). The man in the rocking chair was Christian Shepherd (John Terry was credited in the ep). What I find interesting is that the room was being illuminated by a lantern (just like Ben did). IF CS is dead, why would he need to illuminate the room with a lantern? What does this say about CS?

Its been proven(in another thread) with enhanced screencaps that Christian Shephard is in the rocking chair.

The screencap of the "eye" reminds me of Patchy....

It definitely is NOT Locke. Locke has blue eyes. The eye seen is clearly NOT blue.


Lock has Green eyes, that person that popped up did not look like Locke

The screencap of the "eye" reminds me of Patchy....

I thought that too at first since we didn't see him die.

I thought at first it was Locke, just because he showed up outside right afterwards, but now with the screenshots I can see it's not Locke. Jacob would be my guess. Intersting point about CS needing a lantern..hmmmmm.

I wouldn't take eye color to be definitve proof of anything. Terry O'Quinn has said in interviews that he has been instructed to wear different color contacts in many different scenes and even he isn't sure the reasoning.

Still looks like Desmond to me...

I thought it was Dr whatever his name is that's in the "Orientation" videos. Sheperd is an interesting idea though!


Diane

It looked like Hurley's own eye to me, like he's also inside looking out.

The eye almost looks like Desmonds

I thought it looked like Desmond's eye as well. Very strange...he's the only one of the people we know that has the deep dark brown eyes and the same eye shape as the eye in the cabin. Christian has very blue eyes as does Locke.

I immediately thought of Patchy when I saw it too...and looking at the screen shots, I'm even more convinced.

why the hell would christian be seen by Hurley?????
I mean, we've always assumed that it was either the island or smokie the ones causing these hallucinations. Jack saw Christian alive because he was his father. That was the connection. But what's Hurley's connection with Christian?

And yes, that was Jacob's eye.


Questions...

Is Christian alive on the island? In the same sense Charlie was 'alive' in the real world?
Was this an apparition? Did Jacob create it? Was he bored and he decided to have an imaginary talk with Christian????
Are Jacob and Smokie 'pals'?

This whole scene with the Cabin changing locations reminds me of Ben's magic box...

I thought it was Boone

Still looks like Desmond to me...

I thought it looked like Desmond's eye as well. Very strange...he's the only one of the people we know that has the deep dark brown eyes and the same eye shape as the eye in the cabin. :confused: So are you guys saying there's 2 Desmond's on the island??? :confused: Because he was very obviously at the nose of the plane with Sawyer, Sayid, etc...

I immediately thought of Patchy when I saw it too...and looking at the screen shots, I'm even more convinced.This is possible but I'm still thinking it makes more sense to be Locke. Eyecolor can be hokey by candlelight.

the eye looks like Roger Linus (Ben's dad)

It's Shannon's eye!!11

Seriously...the pieces add up. Locke's primary goal after getting out of the pit is to try stop them from contacting the freighter. With that seemingly accomplished, coupled with the realization that Ben tried to kill him because Locke heard Jacob speak, it would seem logical (and Locke is methodical and logical in pursuit of his goals) that the next step is to go back and see if he can't have a conversation with Jacob and find out exactly who and what he is and what he wants. Add to that the fact that he discovers Hurley right afterwards. Seems pretty obvious it's Locke.

Here is a lightened image of the eye. (http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/4263/eyeoa2.jpg)
It seems to me there is a scar above the eye and the man has a mustache....

I hate to even say it...it LOOKS like "Patchy's" eye...but the eye also looks wild, if that makes sense.
~Sunday~

I thought it was Boone


LOL. I really don't think it's Desmond either. I just watched it again and, taking a real good look at the face, it doesn't look like Des' eye at all when you look behind the fact that they're, well, brown. It's gotta be Jacob. It looks very similar.

I will say this though, even though I do believe he's dead, it does bare an uncanny resemblance to Mikhail's face and eyes. :rolleyes:

Man in the Chair = Christian Shepard (Jack's Father)
The eye that popps up by the window = JACOB

It's that simple guys, end of discussion

I think Christian is in the chair. The slo-mo made me think it was Mikhail. Yeah I know he's dead but so is Christian. Maybe the ghosts of all the bodies on the island gather at Jacob's cabin?

It definitely is NOT Locke. Locke has blue eyes. The eye seen is clearly NOT blue.

*sigh*... do these eyes look blue to you? they look more green to me.

http://www.my12stepstore.com/whats_new_images/emmy_2005/12.jpg

it was Locke in the cabin, commiserating with Jacob on what to do next to protect the island. only Locke and Ben know where that cabin is. it is also why Locke was able to catch up with Hurley so quickly. cause he was the one who snuck up on Hurley in the window.

CAN WE PLEASE GET A PODCAST!? take a break from negotiating with the greedy studios and just throw us a Q&A podcast please!

Here is a lightened image of the eye. (http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/4263/eyeoa2.jpg)
It seems to me there is a scar above the eye and the man has a mustache....


That is pretty convincing that this "eye" isnt attached to a face we have seen before. Who has a mustache on our island? But, lets say that it is Jacob (which a fair amount of people believe), then how is it that Hurley was able to see him? That is the real question for me. Any thoughts?

:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused: :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:

I think Hurley was able to see Jacob (and the cabin) because Jacob wanted him to. Remember Ben's statement about Jacob; "This is not a man you go and see. This is a man that summons you."

Jacob was summoning Hurley (the door opening, inviting him in) for some purpose. What that is is anybody's guess!

Of course, I'm assuming here that Jacob can make himself visible to someone if he wants to, but this could contradict TMBTC where Jacob seems to want to communicate with Locke, (the "help me") but Locke cannot see him.

These are two pictures of the same man:

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/4263/eyeoa2.jpg

http://www.my12stepstore.com/whats_new_images/emmy_2005/12.jpg

the reasons are:

1) if you look at the second picture, Terry O'Quinn's upper eyelid is quite thick and sticks out a bit over his eye. so does the eyelid in the cabin picture.

2) both eyes are green! the cabin picture may look different because it's under different lighting conditions.

3) Terry O'Quinn's eyebrows thin out and fan out once you go past the eyeball. so does the eyebrow in the cabin picture.

4) look to the right of the eyeball. you can clearly see three wrinkles kind of like crow's feet, but closer to the eye. those three wrinkles are also visible in the cabin picture.

These are two pictures of the same man:

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/4263/eyeoa2.jpg

http://www.my12stepstore.com/whats_new_images/emmy_2005/12.jpg

the reasons are:

1) if you look at the second picture, Terry O'Quinn's upper eyelid is quite thick and sticks out a bit over his eye. so does the eyelid in the cabin picture.

2) both eyes are green! the cabin picture may look different because it's under different lighting conditions.

3) Terry O'Quinn's eyebrows thin out and fan out once you go past the eyeball. so does the eyebrow in the cabin picture.

4) look to the right of the eyeball. you can clearly see three wrinkles kind of like crow's feet, but closer to the eye. those three wrinkles are also visible in the cabin picture.



I kinda disagree due to the fact that the person that has the "eye", has a mustache. Before I said I didn't know who on the show had a mustache but I rewatched TTLG, and Patchy has a 'stache'..... Locke doesn't....

I have the comparison pics up I think you have me convinced.

does anyone have a screen shot from the season 3 epi where we see jacob's eye?

It looked like the Dharma scientist eye to my bf and I.

It looked like the Dharma scientist eye to my bf and I.
the one who brought ben and his dad to the island?

I kinda disagree due to the fact that the person that has the "eye", has a mustache. Before I said I didn't know who on the show had a mustache but I rewatched TTLG, and Patchy has a 'stache'..... Locke doesn't....

how do you see a mustache when the mustache area is pretty much out of the frame? from the still, it looks like a little post work was done to blur out the area around the eye. either way i don't see a mustache and won't see a mustache unless someone photoshops some highlights for me.

These are two pictures of the same man:

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/4263/eyeoa2.jpg

http://www.my12stepstore.com/whats_new_images/emmy_2005/12.jpg

the reasons are:

1) if you look at the second picture, Terry O'Quinn's upper eyelid is quite thick and sticks out a bit over his eye. so does the eyelid in the cabin picture.

2) both eyes are green! the cabin picture may look different because it's under different lighting conditions.

3) Terry O'Quinn's eyebrows thin out and fan out once you go past the eyeball. so does the eyebrow in the cabin picture.

4) look to the right of the eyeball. you can clearly see three wrinkles kind of like crow's feet, but closer to the eye. those three wrinkles are also visible in the cabin picture.
LOL. Not the same. And why does everyone think Patchy is dead? We wish!!!! He'll come back around!

When I was watchin the show I could've sworn it was desmonds eyes.

Here is a lightened image of the eye. (http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/4263/eyeoa2.jpg)
It seems to me there is a scar above the eye and the man has a mustache....

how do you see a mustache when the mustache area is pretty much out of the frame? from the still, it looks like a little post work was done to blur out the area around the eye. either way i don't see a mustache and won't see a mustache unless someone photoshops some highlights for me.

I attached the screencap that shows the mustache in it.... see what you think now.....

The eye belongs to the new guy who, seemingly, just parachuted in on the helicopter.

Sorry, can't recall his name just now. ARGH!

I attached the screencap that shows the mustache in it.... see what you think now.....

i think not enough of the face is lit up to show a full mustache. in fact, it looks more like stubble to me. the more i look at it, the more it looks like Locke to me. i'm surprised this discussion is going on for as long as it has been.
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LOL. Not the same. And why does everyone think Patchy is dead? We wish!!!! He'll come back around!

okay and LOL followed by a "not the same" is not enough. how can you disprove the four factual observations i posted? do i need to just break out the photoshop?

aren't jacob and cs the same person?
maybe it was the smoke monsters eye

I think it's Locke, for what it's worth. I'm sure the first chance he got, he went back to the cabin on his own to see what was what. Like he's just going to ignore the spooky haunted cabin in the jungle. Heh.

Interesting!

But.. could it be Michael?
If you play the clip in slowmotion.... I thought I saw his afro cut.
(And he was credited for this episode right?)

Its been stated that since these people will in future episodes, they are creditted with all of them regardless of being in them or not.

People are saying its not Locke because the screencap that is so popularly all over the Fuselage shows his eyes are darker. On my TV though, the eyes are lighter - like a green tint. The shape of his head, ears and now his green/blue eyes sway me to believe that it is Locke.

Man in the Chair = Christian Shepard (Jack's Father)
The eye that popps up by the window = JACOB

It's that simple guys, end of discussion

Agreed
What's bothering me is how would Hurley even know Christian Shepard to visualize him? Why would Jacob show him that?

Look at the enhanced screencap -- it's clearly a white guy who clearly has facial hair. It looks NOTHING like Terry O'Quin. It looks the most like Desmond, but I'm positive it's just whoever they are having play Jacob. Think about it -- if it were someone that Hurley knew, he would've recognized them and most likely would have said something about it later on.

Also, you can just compare screencaps of the eye from "Behind the Curtain" with this one and it's clearly the same guy...

I think it looks like the guy who came to rescue the Losties.

Okay, look...

http://en.lostpedia.com/wiki/Rob_Kyker
Rob Kyker is Lost's prop master on the production crew. He played Jacob in 'The Man Behind the Curtain'. Jacob wasn't officially cast yet. They used Rob Kyker again for 'The Beginning of the End', because he's still not cast.

Now look at this, Jacob's eye from the previous episode, with the eye from the window in this episode superimposed over it:
http://www.imagehosting.com/show.php/1550769_jacob.gif.html


It's the same eye. Rob Kyker's eye. Jacob's eye. End of story.

aren't jacob and cs the same person?
maybe it was the smoke monsters eye


I thought Jacob and CS were the same, too. That's also why I believe it is Locke's eye.

Okay, look...

http://en.lostpedia.com/wiki/Rob_Kyker
Rob Kyker is Lost's prop master on the production crew. He played Jacob in 'The Man Behind the Curtain'. Jacob wasn't officially cast yet. They used Rob Kyker again for 'The Beginning of the End', because he's still not cast.

Now look at this, Jacob's eye from the previous episode, with the eye from the window in this episode superimposed over it:
http://www.imagehosting.com/show.php/1550769_jacob.gif.html


It's the same eye. Rob Kyker's eye. Jacob's eye. End of story.

Excellent! I was searching and searching for the matching eye -- you nailed it!! Therefore, it seems to me that Reanimated Christian is a tool, not Him!! Thank you!

Excellent! I was searching and searching for the matching eye -- you nailed it!! Therefore, it seems to me that Reanimated Christian is a tool, not Him!! Thank you!

No prob. :cool:

Personally I think Jacob and the smoke monster are two different things, but they have something to do with each other (either Jacob tells it what to do, or it's a projection of himself across the island since he can't leave the cabin).

We've seen that the smoke monster can take forms like animals, Yemi, and probably Christian too, so I'm thinking the "Christian" in the cabin was the smoke monster, and Jacob was the guy in the window.

i think it was johns, but it could be Jacobs.

I agree with the other poster that is looks A LOT like Patchy/Micheil's eye and face. Anyone else feel the same way?

I thought it looked like either Locke or Desmond...but it couldn't have been Desmond. I just assume it was Locke.

Regarding the mustache issue, it could still be Locke because if you look at the scene where he is standing over Hurley with the torch, Locke has quite a bit of stubble.

the eye looks like Roger Linus (Ben's dad)

That's what I thought. How interesting would it be if both Ben's father and Jack's father were in there?

Interesting! I made a few side-by-sides.
I think it looks the the eye is Locke's...the eye color matches, among other reasons.

Desmond: http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b51/bluedani01/eyedes.jpg
Linus: http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b51/bluedani01/eyelinus.jpg
Locke: http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b51/bluedani01/eyelocke.jpg

Okay, look...

http://en.lostpedia.com/wiki/Rob_Kyker
Rob Kyker is Lost's prop master on the production crew. He played Jacob in 'The Man Behind the Curtain'. Jacob wasn't officially cast yet. They used Rob Kyker again for 'The Beginning of the End', because he's still not cast.

Now look at this, Jacob's eye from the previous episode, with the eye from the window in this episode superimposed over it:
http://www.imagehosting.com/show.php/1550769_jacob.gif.html


It's the same eye. Rob Kyker's eye. Jacob's eye. End of story.

Did everybody miss this post? (Thanks gutsdozer!)

I think that's a different eye.

Jacob was in the rocking chair, I think it was Locke's eyeball.

That's what I thought, too.

I thought it looked like Wolverine from X-men:undecide:

I know this sounds odd, but has anybody suggested that maybe it could have been Hurley's eye and that Hurley was just looking back at himself?

well I think it was my eye;)

I have been waiting for Sledgeweb to post a comparison and he has a great one posted on his web site. With his visual evidence, there is no doubt the eye was that of Locke

I have been waiting for Sledgeweb to post a comparison and he has a great one posted on his web site. With his visual evidence, there is no doubt the eye was that of Locke

where is it? i made an animated gif but don't know where i can host it. flickr didn't show the animation, so i gave up.

Folks, while I understand the need to theorize and debate, YOU'RE ALL IGNORING CRUCIAL EVIDENCE THAT WAS ALREADY POSTED -- the Jacob we've seen, including his eye, is a placeholder due to the part not yet being cast, and that eye belongs not to Locke, not to Hurley, not to anybody but Rob Kyker, as detailed in gutsdozer's post. Further analyzation doesn't change this fact -- while obviously Rob won't be playing Jacob forever, the intention of these two appearances is that it is JACOB's eye, as portrayed by Rob. Not Locke. Not Desmond. Not Hurley. Not Jack. Not any character we've already seen. You're really just wasting time debating an already established fact, sorry.

Okay, look...

http://en.lostpedia.com/wiki/Rob_Kyker
Rob Kyker is Lost's prop master on the production crew. He played Jacob in 'The Man Behind the Curtain'. Jacob wasn't officially cast yet. They used Rob Kyker again for 'The Beginning of the End', because he's still not cast.

Now look at this, Jacob's eye from the previous episode, with the eye from the window in this episode superimposed over it:
http://www.imagehosting.com/show.php/1550769_jacob.gif.html


It's the same eye. Rob Kyker's eye. Jacob's eye. End of story.

Ok I have thought this though...I think, so here is my .02.

I agree that thge man in the chair could be Christian Shepard....he was on the island and his body was neber found...In slow mo it appear to me as if it was CS. The eye I was not sure. Icould be John Lockes and the close proximity of his appearence makes sence. But what if the man in the char was Alvar Hanso himself and the ey ewas that of Mr. Degrout? not sure of the spelling..WAs wondering your thought and opinion here on the Fuselage.

Hanso Founder

why the hell would christian be seen by Hurley?????
I mean, we've always assumed that it was either the island or smokie the ones causing these hallucinations. Jack saw Christian alive because he was his father. That was the connection. But what's Hurley's connection with Christian?

And yes, that was Jacob's eye.


They are not hallucinations. When two people see the same thing, it is not a hallucination. Remember that Sayid together with Shannon saw the Walt in the jungle.

I can't tell whose eye it was though, but it looks to me the most like Locke, especially the eyebrow.

Folks, while I understand the need to theorize and debate, YOU'RE ALL IGNORING CRUCIAL EVIDENCE THAT WAS ALREADY POSTED -- the Jacob we've seen, including his eye, is a placeholder due to the part not yet being cast, and that eye belongs not to Locke, not to Hurley, not to anybody but Rob Kyker, as detailed in gutsdozer's post. Further analyzation doesn't change this fact -- while obviously Rob won't be playing Jacob forever, the intention of these two appearances is that it is JACOB's eye, as portrayed by Rob. Not Locke. Not Desmond. Not Hurley. Not Jack. Not any character we've already seen. You're really just wasting time debating an already established fact, sorry.


case closed as far as i'm concerned...

Yeah, no kidding. It's obviously Kyker's eye. Ever since I saw a picture of him I recognized him immediately as the silhouette in The Man Behind the Curtain, it's unmistakable.

Further, having Kyker the prop master playing Jacob is, to me, an hilarious nod to Twin Peaks where the key mythological figure was also portrayed by the long-haired and non-actor prop master. Kyker actually looks a great deal like Frank Silva.

I don't think he's a placeholder though, I think he'll portray Jacob in his human form for the rest of the series. Jacob clearly can masquerade as a number of different people, so I imagine he'll be played by a melange of killed-off actors from the show.

I say it's Jacob because we've found out Hugo can see dead people.

I think Jacob uses Christains body to travel around the island.

I vote Locke's eye!
We should have a poll.

This may have been mentioned already.

I lightened up the eye pic in photoshop. I know it appears brown, but the eye is either green or hazel. You can see it if you brighten it up a lot. Then, If you raise the color saturation level - it gets even greener. It has to start out at some level of green for it to become greener.

We have not actually seen Jacob yet. At least not clearly. I assume it's him. It seems like I read that they hadn't even chosen the actor to play Jacob till the summer hiatus. Didn't they use a stand-in in TTLG? Anyway, we can't really tell if its Jacobs eye or not till we have seen Jacob. But it is HIS cabin, and he must be in there somewhere.

I dont understand why so many people are saying it was Locke's eye. It looks nothing like Locke, and its not even the right color! :P

If you look closely, the eye in the cabin is a bit green, but because it was night, it looks a lot darker.

The eye almost looks like Desmonds

You know, both times I have seen the eye in the cabin, for some reason I also thought the eye and bit of face we see reminds me of Desmond. Crazy I know based on what little we see.......

I dont think it looks like Desmonds, I thought it was Lockes

Interesting! I made a few side-by-sides.
I think it looks the the eye is Locke's...the eye color matches, among other reasons.

Desmond: http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b51/bluedani01/eyedes.jpg
Linus: http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b51/bluedani01/eyelinus.jpg
Locke: http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b51/bluedani01/eyelocke.jpg

This is really good. Comparing Desmond's picture with "the eye" picture, Desmond both has a mustache and a beard and it looks like the face with the unknown eye also has a mustache and beard, plus the face looks similar. How Desmond appears in 2 places at once, I don't know but this is LOST. How does Christian's dead body appear all over the island?

The second I saw the cap of the eye, my mind instantly flashed to that shot of Desmond when he's glaring at the stuff getting ready to implode in the hatch. It's that same wild Desmond glare.
Then people are gonna say stuff like, well Des is too far from the cabin, etc.
Desmond has proven many times that he is in some kind of game with the island. Even outside of Des' own 'powers', the cabin, I think is the place on the island where there is some sort of time space smoothie going on...I mean that rabbit flick on the internet all summer, not to mention the clips with all the time space continuum stuff...:lipsseal:

I just heard the new episode of Jay & Jack - they
had an interview with Jorge Garcia and he said
the eye that pops up in Jacob's cabin was
definitely not Terry O'Quinn or Henry Cusack
(locke or desmond)...

crazy! who was it? apparently it was no one
we've seen yet.

I've seen one or two threads on this, and from the screencaps posted it looks to me like it's Mikhail ...

Maybe Jacob can possess bodies as suggested by the fact that the man in the chair is Christian Sherperd (as has been proven in other threads), so maybe Mikhail is Jacob's favourite body to possess, which explains why he can't die. Given that the eye pops up while Christian is in the chair suggests that Jacob would have to be able to possess two bodies at once, though having said that Christian in the chair did look pretty lifeless at that point ...

yeah im sorry if there was a thread, but i thought it could be a new one. Jorge Garcia said that it was an actor that has never been on the show...so i thought that it deserved a new thread. a new outlook on the scene.

yeah im sorry if there was a thread, but i thought it could be a new one. Jorge Garcia said that it was an actor that has never been on the show...so i thought that it deserved a new thread. a new outlook on the scene.

Did he indeed? Hmm interesting ...

It may be a new actor but not a new character though - perhaps they wanted someone anonymous because they knew we'd find out with all the Tivo screencaps etc - and they really want to keep this secret til the reveal, who it is ...

I think it's Jacob. I don't know why people think it's locke. If you see the screenshots it looks nothing like him. The eye is very similar to what we saw before in the cabin.

The eye belongs to Rob Kyker, prop master for the show during season 3.

http://lostpedia.com/wiki/Rob_Kyker

He appears to be the actor portraying Jacob. Based on the silhouette in the chair versus how he looks, it's a 100% spot-on match. The eye in The Man Behind the Curtain is also definitely the same eye in The Beginning of the End.

Well this thread isn't what I expected - but I thought the eye was Jacob's guard dog.

Jacob (John Terry got a credit in this epi by the way) was sitting in his chair when the eye appeared at the window.

And yes, I do know it's a human eye ...but I still say it belongs to a guard dog.

Cerberus?

Wow I really thought it was Locke just by the lines in the eyes etc. It would make sense that Locke was in the cabin with Jacob since he found Hurley so quickly.

The eye belongs to Rob Kyker, prop master for the show during season 3.

http://lostpedia.com/wiki/Rob_Kyker

He appears to be the actor portraying Jacob. Based on the silhouette in the chair versus how he looks, it's a 100% spot-on match. The eye in The Man Behind the Curtain is also definitely the same eye in The Beginning of the End.

This might be a bit spoilerish... Although my sources are not sure and I'm just writing it as I remember.

It might have been Rob Kyker in The Man Behind the Curtain, but that doesn't say it has to be him now. Darlton has said that they hadn't casted Jacob (correct me if I'm wrong) before season four and it has been speculated that Jeff Fahey will be Jacob, since he is part of the new cast for season four and he is an actor that would be a perfect Jacob. Are we 100% sure that the eye is Rob Kyker? I think the eye belongs to Jeff Fahey.

Re:JA79s spoiler.Going on what I've seen on ABC Medianet for the next episode though it seems

Jeff Fahey will be one of the crew of the freighter named Frank Lapidus.

Everyone (including me) is paying a lot of attention to the eye, but don't you think that the nose it's kinda warped? I guess it's not even a human being, but something pretending to have an human shape.

Or it could be a nose that was just blown off by a grenade (Mikhail).

Okay, look...

http://en.lostpedia.com/wiki/Rob_Kyker
Rob Kyker is Lost's prop master on the production crew. He played Jacob in 'The Man Behind the Curtain'. Jacob wasn't officially cast yet. They used Rob Kyker again for 'The Beginning of the End', because he's still not cast.

Now look at this, Jacob's eye from the previous episode, with the eye from the window in this episode superimposed over it:
http://www.imagehosting.com/show.php/1550769_jacob.gif.html


It's the same eye. Rob Kyker's eye. Jacob's eye. End of story.

This. The .gif is definitive proof, as the structure of the face surrounding the eye doesn't change. Its the same shape and has the same features. The only change is the location of the iris. Its Jacob's eye. Case closed.

I'm happy you all figured this one out with clarity. I truly thought it was Locke in there, so I'm excited that Jacob is corporeal enough to get up and look out the window, and make the cabin chase Hurley!:biggrin:

Now, please just figure out how in the heck Locke got to Hurley so quickly?

I thought it looked like desmond too.

I thought it must have been Locke, but even if Hurley was startled by the eye, he STILL would have eventually recognized it, and probably said something like, "Dude, Locke, what're you doin' in that shack?"

My DH said it was Mikail and that would have been my second guess too. Mikail can apparently be injured in certain circumstances, and he must be able to be killed because Ben tells him he would already be dead if he had instructed Bonnie and Greta to have killed him. However, in OTHER circumstances, Mikail must be able to survive/come back to life. So, I'd have no trouble beliving it was Mikail.

However the Kyker pics REALLY seem believeable, but "a placeholder???" Would the writer's stoop so low?

Oh OH OH, and I also could VERY easily agree that it is BEN's DAD. Now, to further this, you'll see in another of my threads, I posted that I SWEAR I heard the lady who gave Ben's dad the "WORKMAN" uniform referred to him as "Mr. LATHAM." If you've seen screen caps of the funeral newspaper article, this'll ring a bell.

And I know from a spoiler who's in the chair, so I won't share that here. That revelation doesn't surprise me either. I think the person in the chair AND Mikail AND even Locke share a certain characteristic...if you have enough FAITH in the island - for one reason or another - then the island has AMAZING healing properties.

I'm also thinking that the whole "now you see it, now you don't" deal with Hurley is a HUGE clue to a lot of things on the island. Telekinesis might actually work.

If you don't look at just the eye, but the structure of the face around the eye, looks a lot like Jack to me.

Christian said "He has work to do" and we know there is a time loop going on. Perhaps Jack is on the island "twice" in time, a later Jack returned to find that events are repeating themselves, or that the time differential has caused him to loop back and be in two places at once.

Perhaps he and his father are working together to protect the island in some way.

Anyway, Jack is my vote.

I thought at first the eye was Locke's, but if it was, it definitely would have been Terry O' Quinn's eye during filming... :confused:

Did anyone notice that Jacob seemed to be wearing... erm... rubber shoes though? :laughing::34853_huh: I'm suddenly wondering if that was Christian Shepard, esp because of the last mobisode... :blink: :34853_huh:

I vote Patchy. I don't think he died; he also knows Ben is screwing with his people, so I bet Patchy is hiding out in Jacob's cabin until he gets a plan.

well I think it was my eye;)
I would gladly agree with you.. but I've figured out who the eye owner is with certainty. :rolleyes:

YOU'RE ALL IGNORING CRUCIAL EVIDENCE THAT WAS ALREADY POSTED -- the Jacob we've seen, including his eye, is a placeholder due to the part not yet being cast, and that eye belongs not to Locke, not to Hurley, not to anybody but Rob Kyker, as detailed in gutsdozer's post.
Aww, how can you think that people ignore crucial evidence?? Just because it's an eye doesn't mean it's an eye.

Further analyzation doesn't change this fact -- while obviously Rob won't be playing Jacob forever, the intention of these two appearances is that it is JACOB's eye, as portrayed by Rob. Not Locke. Not Desmond. Not Hurley. Not Jack. Not any character we've already seen. You're really just wasting time debating an already established fact, sorry.
Actually.. it is certainly Vincent's eye maybe, possibly.
I dont understand why so many people are saying it was Locke's eye. It looks nothing like Locke, and its not even the right color! :P
Wait.. so it has to be the correct color (minty green) for it be Locke's eye? Just because this eye is more brown and a different shape than Locke's AND is in Rob's head (as mentioned above) doesn't mean it's not Locke's. Does it? Nope..


I thought the eye was Desmond's. It's Jacob. It's Locke. It's not Locke. don't know why people think it's locke. If you see the screenshots it looks nothing like him. It's Him. The eye is very similar to Patchy. Well his one eye... which eliminates those with 2. It's Christian's eye. It looked like it was Jack's. I thought the eye was Jacob's guard dog. Cerberus? No, it's Tom's. No, Dr. Candle. Hurley's own personal eye. Boone! Desmond II, Roger, Michael!, John Jacob Jingleheimer, Vincent!

Jacob - nah that would just be too obvious. Just because the eye resides in Rob's head doesn't mean that it's Jacob's eye even though Rob was confirmed to be the temporary portrayer of Jacob.

The eye is patchy

He went to Jacob to check out what is going on with Ben.

Even the way the "eye" moves into the scene it's totally Patchy.

He's not dead, he didn't die all the other times

I think Hurley was able to see Jacob (and the cabin) because Jacob wanted him to. Remember Ben's statement about Jacob; "This is not a man you go and see. This is a man that summons you."

Jacob was summoning Hurley (the door opening, inviting him in) for some purpose. What that is is anybody's guess!

Of course, I'm assuming here that Jacob can make himself visible to someone if he wants to, but this could contradict TMBTC where Jacob seems to want to communicate with Locke, (the "help me") but Locke cannot see him. I agree with that, remember when Hurley was running away from the cabin, he opened his eyes and the cabin was in front of him, then he shut his eyes and said its not here and the cabin was gone. either Jacob wanted hurley to see him or Jacob was just messin with him!

Okay, look...

http://en.lostpedia.com/wiki/Rob_Kyker
Rob Kyker is Lost's prop master on the production crew. He played Jacob in 'The Man Behind the Curtain'. Jacob wasn't officially cast yet. They used Rob Kyker again for 'The Beginning of the End', because he's still not cast.

Now look at this, Jacob's eye from the previous episode, with the eye from the window in this episode superimposed over it:
http://www.imagehosting.com/show.php/1550769_jacob.gif.html


It's the same eye. Rob Kyker's eye. Jacob's eye. End of story.


I'm going with this guy!

/picks up rucksack and rifle, and stands next to gutsdozer

When Ben takes locke to Jabob in season 3, after seeing Jacob, you see a close-up of an eye. It's obvious there that it is Jacob's eye (and they even say so in the bonus disc). I would guess that the eye seen in the cabin the other night was also Jacob. Not Locke or Desmond or anyone else. I wouldn't go by the color or who it might or might not look like. I'm pretty sure it's Jacob.

I thought it looked like Wolverine from X-men:undecide:


That's hilarious, I thought the same thing. Who is that actor?

If you don't look at just the eye, but the structure of the face around the eye, looks a lot like Jack to me.

Christian said "He has work to do" and we know there is a time loop going on. Perhaps Jack is on the island "twice" in time, a later Jack returned to find that events are repeating themselves, or that the time differential has caused him to loop back and be in two places at once.

Perhaps he and his father are working together to protect the island in some way.

Anyway, Jack is my vote.

So glad someone else sees what i see.. I vote it is Jack..

I'm convinced it's Mikhail's eye. No doubt in my mind.

It's Shannon's eye!!11


If I was Jacob and I could summon dead people to my cabin, Shannon would be on the short list for sure.

i think its somone who hurly killed when the porch fell:kiss:

I'm convinced it's Mikhail's eye. No doubt in my mind.

Me too. That was my first impression and it's still on that. It's the right color and everything.

i think its somone who hurly killed when the porch fell:kiss:
Interesting...
What's the matter Colonel Sanders?! Chicken?! :chickn4:

I am so happy I read this thread. While watching the episode the 2nd time I advanced frame by frame on the "eye" scene. I really doubt it is Locke, but I don't know who it is. I am going to believe it is the prop master's eye.
To answer the question or argument, "It's Locke because he found Hurley right after the eye scene." Locke was in the cabin too. Maybe Jacob(in the chair), Locke and the EYE person(whoever that is) were having a pow-pow while throwing back some Dharma beer.
Makes sense to me.

it looks like the eye of Harry Hamlin...hey, just a shot in the dark

Looking at the picture again, I think I'm leaning away from it being Locke. I just really have no idea now. Doesn't look like Jack either though - too many wrinkles

I think it's clear it's an Asian eye, japanese, koran, chinese, something like that.

I figured it out. The credits for this season have shown the name of Fisher Stevens. I looked him up on IMDB and after looking at his photos it is undeniable that he is the owner of the eye we see. The mustache, the nose, the eye, the wrinkles and the eye brow all match up perfectly. Now the question is, what character does Fisher Stevens play? is he Jacob?

Comparing a still screen of the eyeball and Mikhail's eyes, I believe it's Mikhail.

It's a brown eye! If you compare it to the pictures on the season 3 DVD box, it's almost a perfect match to Desmond's eye!

I thought the eyeball they showed last season when Locke visited the cabin and the one in this episode were both Desmond.

It's a brown eye! If you compare it to the pictures on the season 3 DVD box, it's almost a perfect match to Desmond's eye!

It looks like Desmond's eye to me
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/4263/eyeoa2.jpg

or it could be Eric Clapton, lol
http://blogzarro.com/images/clapton_desmond.jpg

Anyway, it looks like Desmond's eye & his stash & nose too
http://www.gitsiegirl.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/lost_desmondflash1.jpg

I figured it out. The credits for this season have shown the name of Fisher Stevens. I looked him up on IMDB and after looking at his photos it is undeniable that he is the owner of the eye we see. The mustache, the nose, the eye, the wrinkles and the eye brow all match up perfectly. Now the question is, what character does Fisher Stevens play? is he Jacob?
He played Minkowski. Somewhere I read that an actor couldn't resolve his contract and so his character was short-lived. I guess we know who that was (if that article I read was really true).

As for the Eye, I thought it was Locke.

Christian in the chair without a doubt.

I say the eye belongs to Jacob and we shall soon find out.

***Mod edited*** personally, about the eye color thing,.. it was dark, lit by lantern, we obviously wont get a clear shot of eye color in the dark. im a believer in the locke theory, i strongly feel it was his eyeball, and christian in the chair. and until we actually put a face to jacob, hes still a figment of imagination, and anything goes.

what if locke had been there, and jacob was using lockes body as a human form, which would then explain a possible eye color change. i dunno. i just see lockes face when i see that screen cap.

srry didnt mean to "bait" anything, my apologies