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rtteachr
02-01-2008, 09:56 AM
Whay are the Oceanic 6 hiding the truth?

kotw32
02-01-2008, 10:07 AM
They have to. Who ever saved them made a deal. They would let them live and give back their lives if they kept quite. i guessing there is a lot more to it then that. Something like if the world found out about the island all nations world would try and find it and wage war over it.

BuffyMars
02-01-2008, 12:32 PM
Maybe something happens that we haven't seen yet...or maybe they fear for the lives of those on the island...OR (lol) they just don't think anyone will believe them about everything that happened to them.

rtteachr
02-02-2008, 08:58 AM
Maybe something happens that we haven't seen yet...or maybe they fear for the lives of those on the island...OR (lol) they just don't think anyone will believe them about everything that happened to them.

I think it is more than people not believing them.

Swan
02-02-2008, 02:37 PM
Perhaps it is some fabulous conspiracy.........

BuffyMars
02-02-2008, 02:38 PM
I think it is more than people not believing them.
Yeah, me too.

toddintexas
02-02-2008, 02:40 PM
They have to. Who ever saved them made a deal. They would let them live and give back their lives if they kept quite. i guessing there is a lot more to it then that. Something like if the world found out about the island all nations world would try and find it and wage war over it.

I agree with this up to a point. I also think it's part of the deal they made to be rescued, but not necessarily to get their lives back. If that was the case, then why isn't Kate in jail? I think she either assumed a new identity when she left the island (unlikely since I'm sure whoevber resuced them would know her, just like Ben and the Others) or whoever rescued them gave Kate a new identity in return for her silence. But I agree, to be rescued, they have to follow a story force fed to them by Oceanic, Widmore, or whoever "saved" them.

This is also why I think the person is in the coffin during TTLG, though I don't think this person is from the O6. This person in the coffin (I believe it's Michael) according to the newspaper report had a confrontation with someone (noises or voices heard in the apartment), probably because they began talking about the island and then were killed but made to look like a suicide.

Heroic Poser
02-02-2008, 02:46 PM
I think if they told, everyone on the island would be killed.
Like, the Freighter people have an A-bomb on it or something, just an example, but you get the point.
I think the Freighter people made a deal that so long as the location of the island stays hidden, they won't kill anyone who stayed. And I think the Freighter people are in cahoots with MAJOR players who can keep tabs on everyone, that's why they whisper to each other about making sure they don't tell about anything. You never know who's part of the bigger picture.
But I also think the Freighter people are gonna kill everyone anyway.

Michaud
02-02-2008, 03:48 PM
There's obviously been a deal. The leverage that [whoever got them off the island] have over the Oceanic 6 is so huge that they have not felt able to say anything yet (although we have no idea how much time has passed since they got off the island and the flashforwards we've seen).

Matthew Abbadon's question to Hurley is striking

MA "Are they still alive?"

Hurley "What?

MA "You heard me"

We then have Charlie:

"They need you, Hugo"

"You know they need you!"

What if the O6 made a trade? Six of them were allowed to leave, with the rest apparently being killed or suffering a horrendous fate that would lead the 6 to believe this was the case. Their path off the island did not come free, just as it didn't for Michael.

Abbadon might not necessarily be visiting Hugo for the same reason as Charlie, but they're both aware of the choice made

GettinLost
02-02-2008, 03:51 PM
Someone is definitely holding something over their heads and making them keep the secret of the others left behind.

I think the person in the coffin was dead because he told.

lostlocke
02-02-2008, 05:02 PM
I think that if they told anyone what happened on the island they would all be looked at as crazy people! I don't think that everyone left on the island wants to stay there. I think they were forced to stay there. I think alot of horrible things happened after these people got to the island and that's what they don't want anyone to know. I know that's kind of vague, but that's all I've got right now!!

What Would Jeff Do
02-02-2008, 05:49 PM
I voted for the first option because i think its closest to the truth. But there's clearly alot more going on then we know, so its probably too early too call it.

HanSparkles22
02-02-2008, 05:55 PM
I'm thinking it's more like that if soemone would say something about the island then people would try to get on it. I guess they don't want that to happen

shootingstar
02-02-2008, 06:22 PM
I chose the first option. I think that the 06 are not saying anything about the ones left behind because they are being threatened by the freighter people or the freighter peoples boss. That's all I've got if anyone says anything about those still on the island they all get killed (at least that's my theory).

Dr. Suds
02-02-2008, 06:33 PM
Mine isn't among those choices. I say they're still acting out a confidence trick.

rtteachr
02-02-2008, 08:43 PM
Mine isn't among those choices. I say they're still acting out a confidence trick.

Care to elaborate?

my t dux
02-02-2008, 09:25 PM
This is also why I think the person is in the coffin during TTLG, though I don't think this person is from the O6. This person in the coffin (I believe it's Michael) according to the newspaper report had a confrontation with someone (noises or voices heard in the apartment), probably because they began talking about the island and then were killed but made to look like a suicide.

I watched TTLG again the funeral asks Jack if "he is family or friend" The family part would seem out if it were Michael.

BoogaFrito
02-02-2008, 09:28 PM
Maybe something happens that we haven't seen yet...Nonsense! Clearly we've seen all there is that's going to happen.

lowclass
02-02-2008, 09:30 PM
2
if they made a deal I think Jack would have given his spot to someone else

toddintexas
02-02-2008, 10:49 PM
I watched TTLG again the funeral asks Jack if "he is family or friend" The family part would seem out if it were Michael.

Not if it was a brother in law, and the women who was married had already died.

Patty Barron
02-03-2008, 11:00 AM
I can't choose either
I think it's more complicated

Ok,Let's say The Island were a crashed UFO
Let's just say it.....I know it's not...
But,if people who were thought to be dead
in a plane crash in the ocean
suddenly were found and said they were
on a Crshed SpaceShip in the ocean somewhere
wouldn't MOST people say they were crazy
and only a select few "Widmore,DHARMA,Hanso"
could afford to search,but where?

Ok...Now back to LOST facts
If suddenly people who "died in a crash"
are found alive they could have said they were
found on an island anywhere,not neccisarily
Teh CrapHole Islands location
So I don't think that's why they are being 'secretive'
Also,The story IS crazy
and MANY people got killed
so maybe for their own(Oceanic 6) protection
and Yes,because the OTHERs and the
Left Behind people could be being held
or in a Civil War on Teh Island
But,possibly The 6 were told
we'll let you leave,BUT if you spill
the beans we will hold you responsible
for those deaths...and the OTHERs Left Behind lives
Possibly,ALL 6 are responsible for
some ones death or a mass death
and can be held accountable

I don't know
THIS IS LOST
and all things are possible

brava
02-03-2008, 11:16 AM
There's obviously been a deal. The leverage that [whoever got them off the island] have over the Oceanic 6 is so huge that they have not felt able to say anything yet (although we have no idea how much time has passed since they got off the island and the flashforwards we've seen).

Matthew Abbadon's question to Hurley is striking

MA "Are they still alive?"

Hurley "What?

MA "You heard me"

We then have Charlie:

"They need you, Hugo"

"You know they need you!"

What if the O6 made a trade? Six of them were allowed to leave, with the rest apparently being killed or suffering a horrendous fate that would lead the 6 to believe this was the case. Their path off the island did not come free, just as it didn't for Michael.

Abbadon might not necessarily be visiting Hugo for the same reason as Charlie, but they're both aware of the choice made

LOVE THE AVATAR! I was saying that same quote over and over after the show. "ARE THEY STILL ALIVE?"
I also believe it was a trade....
It was also ALL BENS FAULT FOR KILLING THE WHOLE DHARMA INICIATIVE!

IStoleCindy
02-03-2008, 12:52 PM
I'd say they're hiding the truth for a few reasons:
-Protect the Island
-Protect whoever stayed behind
-Protect themselves from people finding out some of the more morally questionable things they did on the Island.

MinnieVanMommie
02-03-2008, 01:22 PM
Nonsense! Clearly we've seen all there is that's going to happen.


I know your kidding here right???

I'd say they're hiding the truth for a few reasons:
-Protect the Island
-Protect whoever stayed behind
-Protect themselves from people finding out some of the more morally questionable things they did on the Island.


Under the assumption that the Oceanic 6 is the group number of people that did indeed come back to the island...( well it could be something else....it is Lost after all...lol) I would have to assume that the ones that stayed behind wanted to. I would have to assume that those that did come back to the real world promised their friends back on the island that they would allow them to stay private...start anew...redeem themselves...

Perhaps the people on the island will start a new dharma?? Attempt a new utopia....

woland
02-03-2008, 01:40 PM
Definitely to protect the people left behind, I took Abbadon's statement, they're still alive aren't they, to mean if his people knew they were still alive they'd be in danger and to protect themselves. I think the freighties came up with a cover story that they told on threat of physical violence.

rtteachr
02-03-2008, 04:06 PM
Definitely to protect the people left behind, I took Abbadon's statement, they're still alive aren't they, to mean if his people knew they were still alive they'd be in danger and to protect themselves. I think the freighties came up with a cover story that they told on threat of physical violence.

I tend to agree that there is some kind of hostage situation or what if
Jacob tells them once they leave there is no coming back and they chose to leave.

girlappropriate
02-03-2008, 04:38 PM
They have to. Who ever saved them made a deal. They would let them live and give back their lives if they kept quite.

This too is my theory. I think they are being forced into silence and have to keep their part of the bargain. Those left behind can remain alive as long as the Oceanic 6 don't talk. The reasons behind this though will be revealed much later.

MinnieVanMommie
02-03-2008, 05:23 PM
I totally agree...there had to be some kind of deal made between those left behind and those that left.....

summerdreams
02-03-2008, 05:34 PM
I didn't choose either.

I agree with everyone who said that the Oceanic 6 made a deal to get off the island. Jack seems to eventually crumble under the weight of guilt for whatever the deal entailed and Hurley ends up in a mental institution.

Dr. Suds
02-04-2008, 04:36 PM
Care to elaborate?
I already did. (http://users.bestweb.net/~robgood/teach)

heppamies
02-06-2008, 04:28 AM
poll needs better options, i dont think either one is true

lonegunwoman
02-07-2008, 05:04 PM
I agree with Hepamies. There needs to be more options to vote on. I can think of other reasons why the Oceanic 6 would lie.

For instance, maybe everyone on the island dies except the 6. The six lie to ease the dead's loved ones pain. How awful would it be to hear your son or daughter lived through the crash only to die months later. Your loved one lived through months of food rations, being hunted, purple skies, etc only to die before they were found. That would hurt the loved ones badly. Maybe the six lied to save pain.

I know its to easy and neat, but its an option.

jbdean
02-07-2008, 05:12 PM
I think it's the first reason: "The lives of the other survivors are being threatened by those on the boat." When Abaddon met with Hurley, he asked if they were still alive and that freaked Hurley out. I think it's because Hurley knows the boaties (or who they work for) is out to get those that stayed behind and when Abaddon asked that, it proved to Hurley that he was with the "bad guys."

walterneff
02-07-2008, 10:14 PM
I voted for two.

There are definitely people on the island that don't want to be found (Locke/Ben/The rest of the others/Danielle) and they were the ones that made the deal. I admit it ain't that simple... but this is LOST.

BTW I love your theory Patty Baron... it reads like some form of strange rhyme...

Steve L
02-14-2008, 12:38 PM
They want to get back to it, the way it was.

But if they tell people about it, they may get back to it but it will never be as it was before.