When Naomi was talking to her people and said that she fell on a branch and all that jazz, then said "Tell my sister I love her" or something like that, I'm pretty sure that was some code.

Like "If anything happens and you can't tell us, use the code phrase: Tell my sister I love her." That way she was able to look good in Kate's eyes and not cause any panic before the boat people came.. but really they know that the Losties [well, Locke] really killed her.

Anyone agree?

I'm thinking Naomi did that so the Losties won't expect retaliation and embrace the freighties with open arms. If she told her friends she was murdered then the Losties would be waiting with guns to protect themselves from the new guys, and perhaps kill them and their operation (whatever it may be) would not be able to go through.

That's a pretty interesting theory...

But I tend to agree it was to make it easier for the Losties to welcome the Frieghties to the Island.

These people are so slick that I wouldn't doubt that her little message was a code. Nothing would surprise me.

I thought it was interesting that she did take a branch when she parachuted in. That would be in direct contrast to Ben, who lies all the time.

Or maybe she has a sister.:confused:

Or maybe she has a sister.:confused:

Haha yeah this could be the case, but are little things like this EVER the case with this show?

It just seemed really random for her to say that. Had it been one of the main characters who we knew had a sister [for example, Juliet] then it would be understandable to write in a line like that, but for Naomi to say, it just seems suspicious.

Like she wanted the Losties to feel secure when rescue was coming but she wanted her crew to know that something was wrong.

I like that... reminds me of something in the Bourne Trilogy. I do believe she just has a sister and it may lead to a future crossover.

During the scene where Naomi is talking to George Minkowski right before she dies she tells Minkowski to tell her sister that she loves her. I was thinking that this could be one of two people:

1.) It could be Nadia, Sayid's former flame. This is one of those hints that was so blatantly obvious in it's delivery that I thought the creators wanted us to look into it, and she seems the logical choice for people that we've actually seen.

2.) It could be someone totally unknown, which knowing TPTB is probably the correct answer.

I haven't seen this mentioned on this thread yet so I wanted to get your guys thoughts.

A lot of people believe this was Naomi's "code phrase" to warn the boat that she had been met with violence the old "the natives are restless" situation.

As for 1.), I think Naomi may be an Australian aborigine. That's how she looked to me. That might X-out the Nadia connection.

I like the idea of a "code phrase," and I like the idea that Naomi actually has a sister...could it be that it actually was a "code phrase" that will actually get Naomi's sister involved in the story?

Love all the twists and turns!

:libby: :charlie: :lost:

I think Naomi and her sister might be twins with Naomi being the "bad twin"

Naomi's sister is probably...


Charlotte. The Character played by Rebeca Madder to be introduced later on.

I definitely don't think that Nadia is Naomi's sister (if she has one, since I'm steal leading towards code phrase, haha!), because Sayid probably would have known her - or even if he didn't, Nadia would have probably said to her Naomi at some point "I'm in love with this guy named Sayid" and she probably would have put two and two together.

Plus Naomi does seem more aboriginal, as a poster said above, than Iraqi.

It sounds like an "Alias" code phrase.

If it makes any difference Marsha Thomason is English/Jamacian she was born in Manchester, England, so not probably not Australian.

My guess is Nadia (Sayid's old gal)

What if the mention of her sister was some kind of code, meaning she couldnt talk cause Kate was right there but these people tried to kill her and she was trying to tell her friends.

Nadia was Arab......Naomi seems British(accent) and had a Brazilian book.

Not sure she(sister) is anyone we've met...but then this is LOST and it was weird she said that

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Naomi said she was from the same town as Charlie.

Nadia was Arab......Naomi seems British(accent) and had a Brazilian book.



Well she could referring to her as her sister in the sense hat they are such good friends they refer to each other as sisters.

I don't think Nadia could possibly be Naomi's sister. Naomi said she was from Manchester while Nadia was from the Middle East.

I like the idea that it's a code phrase ..

ooh, i never thought of it as a code. hmm, i like that. ok, i retract he whole nadia thing.

I don't think Nadia could possibly be Naomi's sister. Naomi said she was from Manchester while Nadia was from the Middle East.

Nadia WAS in England, as shown in Greatest Hits when she was getting mugged. But knowing this show, Naomi's sister is probably Christian Shephard.

ooh, i never thought of it as a code. hmm, i like that. ok, i retract he whole nadia thing.


Well, it was NotAnOther89 (http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/member.php?u=57018)idea first.

But it makes sense, when you think about it. Sure, someone who's about to die may have some parting wishes to a family member, but if we're going to believe the "freighters" are as cut throat and deceiving as speculated, well it would make sense that her last words would be a clue.

Reminds me when Locke has Alex at gun (knife?) point, and Ben says "Bring me the man from Tallahasse", to which Locke questions of that's a code, Ben replied that no, they don't have a code for that, but they should.
... That was a bit of a ramble, but that's what it reminds me of.
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Nadia WAS in England, as shown in Greatest Hits when she was getting mugged. But knowing this show, Naomi's sister is probably Christian Shephard.

Are ... you being funny?:34853_huh:

What if the mention of her sister was some kind of code, meaning she couldnt talk cause Kate was right there but these people tried to kill her and she was trying to tell her friends.

Well, it was NotAnOther89 (http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/member.php?u=57018)idea first.

But it makes sense, when you think about it. Sure, someone who's about to die may have some parting wishes to a family member, but if we're going to believe the "freighters" are as cut throat and deceiving as speculated, well it would make sense that her last words would be a clue.

Reminds me when Locke has Alex at gun (knife?) point, and Ben says "Bring me the man from Tallahasse", to which Locke questions of that's a code, Ben replied that no, they don't have a code for that, but they should.
... That was a bit of a ramble, but that's what it reminds me of.
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Are ... you being funny?:34853_huh:

I have already started a thread of the same name as this one and talked about the code as a theory.

What if the mention of her sister was some kind of code, meaning she couldnt talk cause Kate was right there but these people tried to kill her and she was trying to tell her friends.

You are correct.

I have already started a thread of the same name as this one and talked about the code as a theory.

Why are you quoting me, in saying this?


Regardless ... If it doesn't turn out to be a code, it would be interesting to see who her sister turns out to be.
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I asked if the boards could be merged. Problem solved. :smile:

Can we bump? I started this thread last night, but someone else must have had the same idea, because someone else just started a thread of the exact same name talking about the exact same things, so I'd like to bump this and maybe the mods can combine?

What was the point of bumping your thread back up, when we're already discussing the same thing else where?

Because we've already discussed it here. I thought we could combine the discussions since it's the exact same thing.

Because we've already discussed it here. I thought we could combine the discussions since it's the exact same thing.


And what was wrong with discussing it on the other board? Where everyone was already discussing it? Yours had been bumped back 5 pages, and while yes, the person who started a new thread should have searched first, I don't see why you had to bring yours back up (which is confusing, as they have the same names).
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I asked if the boards could be merged. Problem solved. :smile:

Ok sorry I didn't mean to cause such problems I thought they could be merged since it HAD already been discussed. Didn't mean to upset you.

Oh it didn't. I don't care, but now the discussion has stopped, which sucks. But i'm sure it'll start up again.

Anyways, cheers. The code idea (since it seems to be yours originally) is a good one!

The only problem with using "Tell my sister I love her" as a code is that you would only say something like that before dying. But if you're really not dying, you can't say something like that and not be conspicuous.

The only problem with using "Tell my sister I love her" as a code is that you would only say something like that before dying. But if you're really not dying, you can't say something like that and not be conspicuous.

yeah, my first thought was that it sounded like code, but i agree, it's an awkward sentence for any situation other than the one that she's in. when else could she say this and not arouse suspicion?

but still, i dont believe it's a literal thing. i'm doubting there's a sister.

Basically, if she doesn't have a sister, even the mention of a sister would set off the alarm, it wouldn't matter what context it was in.

i guess that's true... might not be a specific code to mean something exactly, just a phrase to warn them that there's cause for alarm.

As for 1.), I think Naomi may be an Australian aborigine. That's how she looked to me. That might X-out the Nadia connection.
She is English and mixed race. Nothing to do with Australia.

Not buying that it was a code. Think it was just to show that she was a normal person that these once normal people just killed. Same way that Jack tried to fire the gun at Locke, something we never would have expected in the beginning. I think they were reinforcong how much the losties have changed.

Not buying that it was a code. Think it was just to show that she was a normal person that these once normal people just killed. Same way that Jack tried to fire the gun at Locke, something we never would have expected in the beginning. I think they were reinforcong how much the losties have changed.
I thought they might be trying that with Jack, but it still made me feel a bit sick that he would have murdered Locke.:eek2:

It makes a ton of sense that it was a code phrase... Then again I really cant see one of the freighter people bringing it casually into a conversation. " Oh yeah by the way kate "tell my sister i love her is a code phrase for they killed me"......I guess if its brought up it'll be next episode.

Perhaps Naomi's sister was in fact Penny? WTF, the writers are going to place me in the same place as Hurley...LOL

Nadia WAS in England, as shown in Greatest Hits when she was getting mugged. But knowing this show, Naomi's sister is probably Christian Shephard.

:lol: Good one!

The first "sisters" connection I made was Juliet and her sister. I'm not saying there is any relationship to them, but what I'm saying is, TPTB like to double up on themes. Like brothers: Eko and Yemi, Charlie and Liam.
Maybe Juliet and her sister are one pair of sisters and Naomi and her sister are another. Blanking on Juliet's sister's name but it's biblical, yes? And Naomi is biblical too. So who knows. Maybe Juliet's sister pairing is "good" and Naomi's is bad. Maybe Naomi and her sister are twins.... lol or CLONES.

Also, the code phrase is also quite feasible so kudos to those that picked up on that possibility because I hadn't.

Rachel is Juliet's sister

:lol: Good one!

The first "sisters" connection I made was Juliet and her sister. I'm not saying there is any relationship to them, but what I'm saying is, TPTB like to double up on themes. Like brothers: Eko and Yemi, Charlie and Liam.
Maybe Juliet and her sister are one pair of sisters and Naomi and her sister are another. Blanking on Juliet's sister's name but it's biblical, yes? And Naomi is biblical too. So who knows. Maybe Juliet's sister pairing is "good" and Naomi's is bad. Maybe Naomi and her sister are twins.... lol or CLONES.

Also, the code phrase is also quite feasible so kudos to those that picked up on that possibility because I hadn't.


Ironicly my seven year old picked up on that as well....she loves LOST...

Actually I think that Tell my sister I love her is perfect code. It genuinely sounds like something a person would say when they're dying and it could work as a code because how would Kate know if Naomi had a sister, she knew her all of three days. I bet we'll learn in a flashback via a throwaway line that Naomi is an only child.

The only problem with using "Tell my sister I love her" as a code is that you would only say something like that before dying. But if you're really not dying, you can't say something like that and not be conspicuous.

Well if their group even has coded phrases they use, I'm sure they have more than one for different situations.

Rachel is Juliet's sister

Thanks, Sam. I knew it was biblical.

Not buying that it was a code. Think it was just to show that she was a normal person that these once normal people just killed. Same way that Jack tried to fire the gun at Locke, something we never would have expected in the beginning. I think they were reinforcong how much the losties have changed.


I agree. It was just a bit of dialogue to humanize these freighties, much in the same way the Other's were eventually humanized (ala book clubs and what not). She is just an employee on a ship, someone with a family, just as, say, Juliet was a member of a scientific commune on an island, despite the initially sinister appearance of the Others.

That said, I'm not saying the people on the freighter are here for a cup of tea and some light banter.

Not buying that it was a code. Think it was just to show that she was a normal person that these once normal people just killed. Same way that Jack tried to fire the gun at Locke, something we never would have expected in the beginning. I think they were reinforcong how much the losties have changed.

Code phrase works well when you think about Naomi knows shes wounded, knows that she was stabbed and wants to warn the other freighties of the danger. It wouldn't have to mean I''m dying, it could just warn them that the conversation was being listen to by others and there is danger on the island and to be careful.

I agree.
Whomever said that it would be an awkward thing to say, I disagree. There would be multiple codes regarding on the situation (ie. ones which, in context, wouldn't arouse suspicion). Asking to have her sister know that she loved her, isn't surprising for someone who is dying.

Then again, it may simply be the dying words of a character we haven't met yet.
I think, should it not turn out to be a code, it will be very interesting to see who her sister really is.

The fact that Naomi had Desmond's picture with her when she parachuted in makes me think her sister may have been that woman Desmond dumped before he tried to become a Monk.

The fact that Naomi had Desmond's picture with her when she parachuted in makes me think her sister may have been that woman Desmond dumped before he tried to become a Monk.

Why would his ex-fiancee have a picture of him? As far as we know Penny never met (Uh... what was her name?) I think it would be more likely that if someone were to have a copy, it would be Penny's father.

Also, the actresses have such large cultural backgrounds (In their physical appearance) that it would be a stretch for them to be sisters. Also, in the show they have different accents, thus they didn't grow up in the same place, which, albeit does not mean they couldn't be related but ... usually the connections are a bit stronger.

From what I remember his ex-fiancee was pretty devastated by his dumping her for one, it's not a stretch for her to have obtained a picture of him and Penny.
Just because the cultural backgrounds of the actresses are different and their accents are different doesn't mean alot-aren't Claire and Jack related? Hes American and she is Australian.
Yes the connections are stronger, but with this show it doesn't mean Desmond's ex-fiancee can't figure into the show more prominently down the line.

From what I remember his ex-fiancee was pretty devastated by his dumping her for one, it's not a stretch for her to have obtained a picture of him and Penny.
Just because the cultural backgrounds of the actresses are different and their accents are different doesn't mean alot-aren't Claire and Jack related? Hes American and she is Australian.
Yes the connections are stronger, but with this show it doesn't mean Desmond's ex-fiancee can't figure into the show more prominently down the line.

... how is it not a stretch?
The day before their wedding, he left and went to a monastery for what? 3 ish years? Then was with Penny, again for how long?
And she just, what, decided one day that she'd like a momento, and someone got a picture (which only one copy was made of, as far as we know, even though there are more than one in circulation at this point), from someone she doesn't know?
That's a stretch if you ask me.

check out the trivia section: http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Ruth

Okay, so I was wrong about the dates (It was a week before the wedding). Other than that, the only significance is

In the Bible, Ruth was the young Moabite widow who said to her Hebrew mother-in-law Naomi (http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Naomi), "Where you go, there I shall go also; your people will be my people, your God, my God".

Evidence for
i. They appeared in the same episode together
ii. The name reference.

Against
i. Physically different
ii. Different accents

With regards to Jack and Claire, the audience is more willing to make a connection because of all the OTHER believable connections that went along with the fact that they were related.

To be honest I found that by accident, I was looking to see the name of Desmond's ex-fiancee and found the Naomi reference, I don't think that's a coincidence. I wasn't even looking at the dates of when their wedding was supposed to be.

I really like the idea that it was a code. The Freighties could have several codes, but "tell my sister that I love her" is something like, "these people are hostile and tried to kill me, so be prepared". But if Naomi was speaking code, then the Freighties will definitely have the edge.

The people on the freighter are very determined to find the island and believe their goals whatever they are are justified. Naomi was one of those people. TPTB are going to treat the freighters as they did Juliet they will be ambiguous until they confirm whether they're good or evil. So if you think the freighter is good Naomi's last words that she was speared by a tree branch is that of a good person who wants the losties to be found. I don't Iook at it like this. Naomi a true believer, or loyalist to use a Ben phrase. As Locke pointed out she wants her people to find the island. So she told the tree branch incident to gain Kate's trust. And then gave the distress code tell my sister I love her to tell the freighter the truth. She did this so the losties will be more receptive to her people when they get there.

My immediate reaction was that this was some type of code.. I have nothing to base that on- beside my gut feeling. I think it was because she didn't use an actual name - and that just seemed to make it less believable for whatever reason.

However, I am sort of surprised that people are able to determine who her sister is based upon that statement - talk about reading between, underneath and over the lines. At this point though I would go with either Christian as being her sister - or even more likely - Vincent. :lipsseal:

All I am saying is that no one in this series is just incidental- I tend to believe that Desmond's ex-fiancee Ruth has more significance that will be determined down the road.

My immediate reaction was that this was some type of code.. I have nothing to base that on- beside my gut feeling. I think it was because she didn't use an actual name - and that just seemed to make it less believable for whatever reason.

However, I am sort of surprised that people are able to determine who her sister is based upon that statement - talk about reading between, underneath and over the lines. At this point though I would go with either Christian as being her sister - or even more likely - Vincent. :lipsseal:

... and the word you are looking for is ... apophenia [ http://lostpedia.com/wiki/Apophenia ]

Just remember that making such connections is part of the fun of the gettin' into the show. How many times have we said, "Wow! Didn't see that coming" and it was a connection that had profound implications or else made perfect sense for the characters.

BTW, making connections is a part of having a creative mind. Whether the connections make any sense is besides the point. It is the effort that counts. And it is through these efforts that many discoveries are made and many inventions come into being.

P. S. Vincent could never have any part of the freighter's shannagains. He's a "Lostie" to the bone. (pun intended. Woof!)

All I am saying is that no one in this series is just incidental- I tend to believe that Desmond's ex-fiancee Ruth has more significance that will be determined down the road.

Exactly. The Naomi-Ruth connection from the Bible has really been sticking out for me.

I hope it wasn't a code and actually was a true statement. I love the introduction of new characters in LOST...it opens up the storyline so much...and I hope it's no one we know of.....someone new. Although it would be SUPER cool if it was Nadia...I have been rooting for her to show up on the island somehow ever since she started showing up randomly in people's flashbacks. Sayid would be ecstatic about that!!!

"Tell My Sister I love Her" is a code and it means "There is a man in my closet with a gun to my daughters head" Now I have no idea what that code could be telling the unknowns but we have to remember here that "sister" can mean many things. Sisters and brothers means the people in general. Sister can also repersent womenhood. Sister also repersents a common bond between groups of women. It could be many things not so much a psyical sister. There are also things like "sister sites" "sister groups" "sister organizations" it could also mean something along those lines.

... and the word you are looking for is ... apophenia [ http://lostpedia.com/wiki/Apophenia ]
Just remember that making such connections is part of the fun of the gettin' into the show. How many times have we said, "Wow! Didn't see that coming" and it was a connection that had profound implications or else made perfect sense for the characters.
BTW, making connections is a part of having a creative mind. Whether the connections make any sense is besides the point. It is the effort that counts. And it is through these efforts that many discoveries are made and many inventions come into being.
P. S. Vincent could never have any part of the freighter's shannagains. He's a "Lostie" to the bone. (pun intended. Woof!)

apophenia -- You have no idea how much I love that definition! I do tend to think that it's all about Vincent though :peek: .. He is Him; he is the owner of the eye; he is Jacob.. yadda yadda.. he's guilty and he's innocent) or Vinocent

"tell my sister I love her. What is she sorry about? I think maybe she is sorry she failed or sorry you are going to have to come here now yourself George.

she is sorry she died

My theory on Naomi's last message to George is that it was a coded message. I'm thinking that when she said, "Tell my sister that I love her" was her way of saying that there are hostiles on the island and proceed with caution. With Kate being right there she couldn't just say these people are armed and dangerous and risk Kate going back to Jack and warning the rest of the group. Using code words like that is standard in military training. I'm surprised no one else has thought of this yet.

My theory on Naomi's last message to George is that it was a coded message. I'm thinking that when she said, "Tell my sister that I love her" was her way of saying that there are hostiles on the island and proceed with caution. With Kate being right there she couldn't just say these people are armed and dangerous and risk Kate going back to Jack and warning the rest of the group. Using code words like that is standard in military training. I'm surprised no one else has thought of this yet.


I totally agree.

I also think that when Naomi did something to the Sat. phone to clear up the interference she sent a message. The reason I think this is that George replies with, "Clear as a bell":shrug:

Using code words like that is standard in military training. I'm surprised no one else has thought of this yet.

Actually I've seen this theory quit a bit on other forums.
As for why she's "sorry", I'm thinking she's sorry she didn't complete her mission and now they have to have more men venture to the island.

I posted in another thread that the tell my sister I love her was a coded distress message and that we'll find out via a throwaway line that she was an only child or had a brother not a sister. Naomi lied from the moment she got on the island. Something she told Charlie seemed odd until the Not Penny's Boat message was given. She told Charlie that they had made a big deal out of him and his greatest hits album went to the top of the charts. While that does happen it seems to me on a second viewing of the episode that she made it up on the spot. Which was a part of her effort to ingratiate herself to the losties and make it easier for her group to come to the island.

She told Charlie that they had made a big deal out of him and his greatest hits album went to the top of the charts.

I always thought that was odd since Driveshaft was a one-hit wonder.

I always thought that was odd since Driveshaft was a one-hit wonder.
It's not odd that a one hit wonder would get some attention upon their deaths, even a bump in record sales, but Naomi made it sound like his death had been treated like the death of John Lennon. And like you said Driveshaft was a one hit wonder, hell their album was in the $1.99 bin in one of Hurley's flashbacks how many songs can be on a greatest hits album for Drive Shaft? The entire thing seemed improvised by Naomi to gain Charlie's trust. This makes me believe the freighties didn't know about the losties, Naomi like the rest of her people had, as they will have to adjust their plans because of it.

It's not odd that a one hit wonder would get some attention upon their deaths, even a bump in record sales, but Naomi made it sound like his death had been treated like the death of John Lennon. And like you said Driveshaft was a one hit wonder, hell their album was in the $1.99 bin in one of Hurley's flashbacks how many songs can be on a greatest hits album for Drive Shaft? The entire thing seemed improvised by Naomi to gain Charlie's trust. This makes me believe the freighties didn't know about the losties, Naomi like the rest of her people had, as they will have to adjust their plans because of it.

You'd think that if it were true, it would be mentioned on Drive Shaft's website (http://www.driveshaftband.com/). So you guys could be on to something there.

driveshaftband.com is a fansite, whether or not something is on there doesn't mean anything for the show. :shrug:

driveshaftband.com is a fansite, whether or not something is on there doesn't mean anything for the show. :shrug:

Yeah, but I'm pretty sure this was actually an official site released back in the day by ABC, no? In which case, you'd think that if DS was supposed to have released a greatest hits CD in their universe, then it would've been mentioned on this "fan page." :shrug:

No, ABC had nothing to do with it and the page isn't and has never been official in any way - it was simply started by fans of Dominic Monaghan around the time Lost first aired...

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Hi Bess,

To be honest with you, I don't have any idea who is writing the material for that website - - it isn't affiliated with the show in any official capacity. As far as I know, it was built and is maintained by fans of the show.

Pretty impressive though, huh?

Thank you so much for your question. And thank you very, very much for watching our show.

Raggs

No, ABC had nothing to do with it and the page isn't and has never been official in any way - it was simply started by fans of Dominic Monaghan around the time Lost first aired...

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Wow, that's insane. Those people went ridiculously deep. I mean, they sure seemed to have some exclusive content, including photos.

I think I'm one of the few people who think Naomi actually has a sister she she was actually just relaying one last message to her sister cause she was on the verge of death. I'm not sure if Naomi wanted to send a coded message out while she was breathing her last...probably just sad that she couldn't say goodbye to her sister in person.

I think there was a code that wouldn't be realized by the George until he gets to Naomi's body.
Naomi told him about her being impaled by a tree...through the gut. However, that is a partially healed wound. The fresh wound is in her back!
It's also a time frame thing. How long ago had she landed? That would date the injury she spoke of, one of which had her walking around all this time? George will instantly know something is wrong.

Well, if it turns out to be a code, then I suppose the Freighters will have an upper-upper hand on our Losties.
If it isn't a code, and we do meet Naomi's sister, I really do hope it's a character we've already met. Someone earlier mentioned they hope it's a new character - That would take all the "connectivity" out of Lost, really. If we hadn't already known Nadia (via Sayid), it would have simply been Charlie helping some random. If Naomi's sister is a new character then ... well, fine it's her sister, so what? If she's connected with Dharma, or the Island in any way, it won't be surprising anymore, just two siblings who got into the same line of work.

Guys, there are already like ... 3 other threads discussing this.
They all have really obvious titles like "Naomi's sister" , this just clutters up the boards - not saying your points aren't valid, just that they're being talked about elsewhere, and we don't need 10 threads about the same thing. That's what the search function is for.
:smile:

Perhaps Naomi's sister was in fact Penny? WTF, the writers are going to place me in the same place as Hurley...LOL

This was the idea I had too, HF, and then I read about it possibly being a code. That had never occurred to me and makes a little more sense.
The reason I thought Naomi and Penelope might be sisters is it would explain why she had Penny & Desmond's picture and knew who Des was on sight.
However, she's also shown that she can function under extreme pressure not only when she was speaking in Portugese & Russian when she was badly hurt and you'd think that she would revert to English when she's in so much pain. So, it stands to reason she would think of a code to let the freighties know that things on the Island aren't kosher while at the same time not letting on to Kate that she didn't believe her.

Well, forgive me for replying in this thread but I already got started here and it's on the first page of topics...
It's not odd that a one hit wonder would get some attention upon their deaths, even a bump in record sales, but Naomi made it sound like his death had been treated like the death of John Lennon. And like you said Driveshaft was a one hit wonder, hell their album was in the $1.99 bin in one of Hurley's flashbacks how many songs can be on a greatest hits album for Drive Shaft? The entire thing seemed improvised by Naomi to gain Charlie's trust. This makes me believe the freighties didn't know about the losties, Naomi like the rest of her people had, as they will have to adjust their plans because of it. Well maybe in Manchester, England it was a big deal - remember Naomi and Charile finding out they were both from Manchester? A hometown bandmember going down in a plane crash would be big there (sure kind of like the death of another near-hometown band member 23 years earlier...:rolleyes: )

I think I'm one of the few people who think Naomi actually has a sister she she was actually just relaying one last message to her sister cause she was on the verge of death. I'm not sure if Naomi wanted to send a coded message out while she was breathing her last...probably just sad that she couldn't say goodbye to her sister in person.
Either perspective is plausible - if she really had a sister it would be a throwback to Boone wanting Jack to tell Shannon something with his last breath.

Or it coud be a coded message. Would they really prearrange a coded message for one's dying breath, though? Makes about as much sense as "get the man from Tallahassee" really means "there's a man in my closet with a gun to my daughter's head." Obviously they need both. ;)

Well, forgive me for replying in this thread but I already got started here and it's on the first page of topics...
Well maybe in Manchester, England it was a big deal - remember Naomi and Charile finding out they were both from Manchester? A hometown bandmember going down in a plane crash would be big there (sure kind of like the death of another near-hometown band member 23 years earlier...:rolleyes: )


Either perspective is plausible - if she really had a sister it would be a throwback to Boone wanting Jack to tell Shannon something with his last breath.

Or it coud be a coded message. Would they really prearrange a coded message for one's dying breath, though? Makes about as much sense as "get the man from Tallahassee" really means "there's a man in my closet with a gun to my daughter's head." Obviously they need both. ;)

Because someone didn't bother searching for it first.
Oh well, they're merged now.

I think it makes a lot of sense to have a series of codes in place. They're parachuting onto an Island they can't see (Noami says that before her instrument panel goes wacky, the "clouds cleared" and she saw land), inhabited by ... well, they have no idea. Regardless of how much they know about the Island, it's still risky to send one person in alone, with the only means of communication to let the Freighter know where the Island is. Having a "I'm dying, they did it, be careful" message, or even a "I'm dying, but they're a bunch of pansy's so all aboard!" one, makes sense from a tactical standpoint.

When Naomi was talking to her people and said that she fell on a branch and all that jazz, then said "Tell my sister I love her" or something like that, I'm pretty sure that was some code.

Like "If anything happens and you can't tell us, use the code phrase: Tell my sister I love her." That way she was able to look good in Kate's eyes and not cause any panic before the boat people came.. but really they know that the Losties [well, Locke] really killed her.

Anyone agree?

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Well played!!! ;)

Popping back in to take my hat off to those who thought that "tell my sister I love her" was a code. :clapping:Miles explained it three times, just in case we didn't get it. :rolleyes: