Anyone else find it strange that the clothing is all very different?

The pilot was very casual, the woman is geared up with a jumpsuit and a bulletproof vest, one of them is nearly in a suit...

If nothing else, why don't they all have vests? The pilot and Naomi clearly didn't.

It's a good question. I wondered why the that one lady was wearing one. I hope there is a reason beyond simply making her survive the gunshot.

Wow, what an episode. S4 rocks. Who are these people...

My husband made a mention of the clothing.....it is odd that the pilot was all sooo casual and others had on bullet proof vests and seriously why didnt Naomi have a vest on????

Maybe Charlotte had reason to believe she'd need the vest on this mission. Seems she knew a thing or two about DHARMA before she got recruited...

I wonder why wear a tie if you're going to parachute onto an island, Faraday is portrayed as a bit of a headcase but still that is a little weird. As Locke would say Charlotte had a vest on because she was supposed to have a vest on.

Miles didn't have a vest on either. It makes me wonder if the original plan before the chopper was hit by lightning is that only Charlotte was supposed to parachute in. Well, now that I think about it, that doesn't explain Miles and Daniel's guns though and the creepy gas mask box and the flare gun in Frank's pants. (That doesn't sound right at all...I think I need to go to bed...) :drowsy:
As you guys say, it's an odd assortment of garb. Hopefully, more will be become clear as we go on...night...:yawn:

I think the gas masks were more to do with the QUARANTINE signs RE: The Hatch. This possible virus etc etc, that everyone was lead to believe.

I think the plan was originally to land the helicopter, thus Lapidus' casual garb it is common on operations in planes for the passengers to wear parachutes for obvious reasons. But it didn't go according to plan, they hit EM interference and a rainstorm.

the pilot wasn't wearing a vest because he was probably going to head back to the freighter after dropping everyone off, but cuz of the storm he had to land. naomi wasn't wearing a vest because she was doing recon work originally before her aircraft crashed. as for miles and faraday, who knows? they are inexperienced and they probably didn't think they needed protection since they were the ones w/ guns (who would expect plane crash victims to have guns...) from what i remember they could be wearing vests under their clothes. i don't recall seeing anything that would prove otherwise.

It reminds me of a boyband or girlband or something. You've got PoshFreightie, SportyFreightie, SpookyFreightie, etc. Lost has branched out into just about every other nook and cranny of our existence, maybe they'll be releasing a record !
I could just see the 4 Freighties singing "Make Your Own Kind of Music", complete with dance moves. :biggrin:

The island may provide a chance for visitors to take on atributes they wish for themselves. If you know about this quality ahead of time you might be able to even pick some specifics, like your outfit-- but then there is a problem and you panick and you get stuck with the last version of yourself you were thinking about (ala the Stay Puff Mashmellow Man in Ghost Busters). If you are calm and still focused you arrive in full battle garb. If you are scatter -brained you go with you greatest wish which was to be a proffessor, or retired, or a banna repuplic model. I think you may be able to tie Locke walking, Jack being able to have things to fix, Kate being free, etc into this theory.


"No, You lock it up!"

The island may provide a chance for visitors to take on atributes they wish for themselves.


Or take on attributes that they need like in The Wizard of Oz where Dorothy needs a home, the Tinman needs a heart, and so on. Very interesting observation ulockeitup.

It reminds me of a boyband or girlband or something. You've got PoshFreightie, SportyFreightie, SpookyFreightie, etc. Lost has branched out into just about every other nook and cranny of our existence, maybe they'll be releasing a record !
I could just see the 4 Freighties singing "Make Your Own Kind of Music", complete with dance moves. :biggrin:

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I agree that probably Daniel and Frank probably weren't expecting to go very far from the chopper.

the pilot wasn't wearing a vest because he was probably going to head back to the freighter after dropping everyone off, but cuz of the storm he had to land. naomi wasn't wearing a vest because she was doing recon work originally before her aircraft crashed. as for miles and faraday, who knows? they are inexperienced and they probably didn't think they needed protection since they were the ones w/ guns (who would expect plane crash victims to have guns...) from what i remember they could be wearing vests under their clothes. i don't recall seeing anything that would prove otherwise.

I think your right about the pilot and Naomi, I think Charlotte Knew about Naomi's using the code (Tell my sister I love her) so she decided to wear the vest, why she didn't have a gun like the guys did I don't know? Miles could be wearing a vest, I don't think we have seen him out of his jumpsuit on the island. But Fairaday was wearing a vest and Tie? I think their original mission went very wrong when the chopper hit the storm. I don't think Fairaday was ever suppose to come in contact with any on the people on the island. He really seems disintrested in them, he is much more fasinated by how the light "doesn't scatter" and the island itself. I think the "team" is just kind of winging it now.

I think the gas masks were more to do with the QUARANTINE signs RE: The Hatch. This possible virus etc etc, that everyone was lead to believe.

The Quarantine might be right. But since their focus is to get BEN, they might already know how he killed off the original DHARMA-ites and are prepared in case of another gas-attack.

In the helicopter, Charlotte franticly said "I can't find my vest!" Miles told her to look under her seat, she said she already did, and then Miles says "Here, just take mine" and hands his vest to her. This was right before he pushed Dan out.

The clothes are just too much of a clue to go unmentioned. I mean, even if you are and Osxford professor, do you wear a tie on a helicopter? I noticed they are wearing the clothes that are indicative of who they are, not what they are doing, a total disconnect from the necessities of the situation. This thought crossed my mind, maybe those clothes are what they were wearing when Abbadon's group took them forcibly and coerced them into this mission? Something like "Okay, we know you know about Flight 815, we will give you all the answers you want if you come with us NOW"

In the helicopter, Charlotte franticly said "I can't find my vest!" Miles told her to look under her seat, she said she already did, and then Miles says "Here, just take mine" and hands his vest to her. This was right before he pushed Dan out.


Thank You, great catch, I could'nt figure out what they were saying with all the chopper noise, at least this explains one item of clothing. She was the last to jump out (I think) so she would have had time to put it on.

Could be that they were all told different things about where they were going. Based on what they were told thats how they geared up.

In the helicopter, Charlotte franticly said "I can't find my vest!" Miles told her to look under her seat, she said she already did, and then Miles says "Here, just take mine" and hands his vest to her. This was right before he pushed Dan out.

Exactly right, so Miles was obviously going to wear one. However, why would Charlotte freak out about not finding hers and then Miles give her his, when he originally thought he might need one?

Maybe Charlotte had a reason to believe Ben would shoot her because she's the mole?

Exactly right, so Miles was obviously going to wear one. However, why would Charlotte freak out about not finding hers and then Miles give her his, when he originally thought he might need one?

Maybe Charlotte had a reason to believe Ben would shoot her because she's the mole?
I think Michael is Ben's mole It is the only way I can see TPTB getting Michael back on the show. He'll show up to warn the losties about the freighties but won't be believed.
I think Charlotte will end up joining with the losties at some point.

The clothes are just too much of a clue to go unmentioned. I mean, even if you are and Osxford professor, do you wear a tie on a helicopter? I noticed they are wearing the clothes that are indicative of who they are, not what they are doing, a total disconnect from the necessities of the situation. This thought crossed my mind, maybe those clothes are what they were wearing when Abbadon's group took them forcibly and coerced them into this mission? Something like "Okay, we know you know about Flight 815, we will give you all the answers you want if you come with us NOW"

That's the best explanation that comes to my mind - that the four people on the helicopter were abruptly grabbed during their normal activities, 'cause I agree with the original poster - the producers of the show definitely deliberately put them in their civilian clothes. Still though - why wouldn't they (Abbadon) provide them with something more suitable once they got on the freighter (or whatever ship the helicopter came from).

I'm also curious as to why Charlotte was the only one on the helicopter not wearing a helmet, or any kind of flight gear for that matter? The helmets have built in hearing protectors, and my understanding is that helicopters are so noisy one would definitely want to be wearing one, plus it's very difficult to communicate with the other passengers without the built in radios. Again, I have to think this was deliberate on the part of the Lost production team. (But why? Questions, questions, questions :) )

Also clothes related - did it bother anyone else that even though Dan got shoved out "post haste", Charolette still took the time to put on Miles bullet proof vest, jumpsuit, and parachute? I realize she was the last one to jump, but ...

Maybe Charlotte didn't trust Naomi (or someone else she was with) I mean the way Abbadon kept stressing to Naomi there were no survivors left me to think she was suppose to make it so there weren't any. If she disposes of survivors certainly the people she was on the freighter with might be expendable too. If Charlotte picked up on a feeling to protect herself she might have gotten the vest for herself.

It reminds me of a boyband or girlband or something. You've got PoshFreightie, SportyFreightie, SpookyFreightie, etc. Lost has branched out into just about every other nook and cranny of our existence, maybe they'll be releasing a record !
I could just see the 4 Freighties singing "Make Your Own Kind of Music", complete with dance moves. :biggrin::rotflmao2: I would LOVE to see that.

Could be that they were all told different things about where they were going. Based on what they were told thats how they geared up.That certainly would make sense, based on the way that other people got to the island (notably Juliette) and how they have been manipulated.
I also find the theory that they were all rushed out to the island to be very plausible.

Exactly right, so Miles was obviously going to wear one. However, why would Charlotte freak out about not finding hers and then Miles give her his, when he originally thought he might need one?

Maybe Charlotte had a reason to believe Ben would shoot her because she's the mole?This is very curious, and I'm glad that this was brought up, because I completely forgot about that part. It is very odd that they should determine that Charlotte in particular would need the vest.

It reminds me of a boyband or girlband or something. You've got PoshFreightie, SportyFreightie, SpookyFreightie, etc. Lost has branched out into just about every other nook and cranny of our existence, maybe they'll be releasing a record !
I could just see the 4 Freighties singing "Make Your Own Kind of Music", complete with dance moves. :biggrin:

xD What I would give to see this....they should put it on the S4 DVD when the season's over. An "easter egg," of sorts.

SeekerNJ...

Charlotte was wearing a helmet. She kept it on until she dropped in the water and then she removed it.

Anyone else find it strange that the clothing is all very different?

The pilot was very casual, the woman is geared up with a jumpsuit and a bulletproof vest, one of them is nearly in a suit...

If nothing else, why don't they all have vests? The pilot and Naomi clearly didn't.
DC, in the most recent vidcast for Lost, they interviewed the costumer for the show and he talks about the clothing choices for Miles and Daniel. Interestingly, he chose to have Daniel wear the tie when the actor wore it himself to the fitting!

I think maybe why they are all in "civilian" clothes is because they want to appear as airline passengers. Following the time loop theory, they might be coming to the island to insert themselves into the time loop at the point when flight 815 crashes. They they will attempt to alter the sequence of events (for some reason) that has happened since the previous loop.
Charlotte has been in the loop before an knew she was going to get shot so she wore the vest. Naomi was being inserted into the loop for the first time so she did not know she was going to get a knife in the back.
Anybody buying this explanation???

I think the reason the Freighties were dressed in "civilian" attire (except for Naomi) is because they were trying to look like airline passengers. Consider the time loop theory... maybe this team was going to the island for the next time flight 815 crashes and they were going to infiltrate the survivors like the guy Anna Lucia killed and Ethan. They are going to insert themselve in the time loop at the point just after the plane crashes. The previous loop did not yield the results they (Hanso/Widmore/whoever) wanted so they are going to try again.
This is possibly why Charlotte knew to wear a vest - because she has already been through the loop and knows she is going to get shot.
This is Naomi's first time in the loop and did not know to protect herself from the flying knife. She may not even know she is in a time loop.
That might be why the helicopter is intact as well. It is the helicopter from a previous attempt. The helicopter from this attempt really did crash and that is why Frank is hurt.
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Well, the Lost video podcast for this episode was all about how they figured out the wardrobe for the characters.

For example, Miles' vest is an Armani jacket with the arms cut off and a hood attached. Cool! I think he looks great.

And Jeremy Davies wears that black string tie because that's what he wore to the audition, and they thought he looked great in it so they added it to his weardrobe. Personally, I think the tie is seriously hawt for on-island apparel.

Naomi landed first, to investigate. She was eventually attacked by Locke. She used the "tell my sister I love her" code to let the ship know there were hostiles on the island - particularly that "she had a gun to her head." The next party that came to the island knew Naomi was in trouble, and so came armed, and wearing bullet proof vests.

SeekerNJ...

Charlotte was wearing a helmet. She kept it on until she dropped in the water and then she removed it.

When we first see them on the helicopter, Charlotte IS NOT wearing a helmet. She puts it and the rest of her gear on off camera after Dan jumps/gets tossed out.

naomi wasn't wearing a vest because she was doing recon work originally before her aircraft crashed.

This is my first post.

I'm not sure Naomi wasn't wearing a vest. It might have come off when Mijail checked her.

Then again, it did strike me as odd to see them dressed in that fashion, as if they's gotten out of bed and into the chopper. The only one that really looks like she was headed on a mission was the girl (I forgot her name). Then again, maybe she's an adrenaline junkie. She did seem to be enjoying the idea of dropping into the lake from the branch.

It's strange. I don't think it was used to establish character through clothing. I really think they didn't expect to find survivors. Remember that the black guy that talks to Naomi firmly establishes that there are no survivors. No survivors, no threat, no need for vests.

I'm convinced these guys are from Dharma and that they're on a payback mission to find Ben for killing the original DHarma team on the island and to establish a new base. But I digest.