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flyinglo777 02-08-2008, 03:39 AM Reminded me of the last scene of season 2 finale Appearing to communicate something to Kate non-verbally (which it appeared Sawyer caught that time). Tonight we know that's what he was doing.
I always wonder how much he knows that he doesn't tell Kate or the other losties.
Claudia815 02-08-2008, 03:41 AM I guess it's his new favorite facial expression after last week. :24:
He doesn't know anything more than the other losties, this time he was just astute and somehow heard/saw Juliet and Sayid approaching.
lostchild 02-08-2008, 03:43 AM It proved a few things to me:
1. Whether you love the triangle business or not, the wink snuck a bit of Jack-sided Jaterdom into the show (which I personally swoon over, haha)
2. Jack's a smarter (and sneakier) dude than people give him credit for. (sometimes)
Like, that maneuver wasn't emotionally overrode like some of his "plans" have been.
I loved it. But I'm a foxy lover to the end.
Guinevere 02-08-2008, 03:46 AM I thought it was a cute byplay between Jack, Kate and Juliet who didn't seem to mind and, in fact, seemed tickled, about the wink.
briar910 02-08-2008, 04:43 AM According to Michael Ausiello, when Jack explained the wink and both Juliet and Kate laughed, it was because they both thought he was talking to them individually. :confused:
RodimusBen 02-08-2008, 07:42 AM Actually, I thought Juliet was smirking over the fact that Kate didn't interpret the wink correctly. That makes it seems as though the connection between Jack and Kate isn't as strong, and Juliet was enjoying having just bailed her man out of a bad situation while Kate was clueless.
Finnster 02-08-2008, 08:25 AM Again I stipulate that Jack is more than a mere back surgeon. I have said it before and I stick to that opinion..especially after last nights eppy.
Which was great by the way...
flyer61055 02-08-2008, 08:25 AM I interpreted the scene as instead of Kate being grateful that Sayid and Juliet showed up to save their butts she was being pissy because she didn't get to be the one to save Jack's butt and I felt like Juliet smirked when Jack mentioned how he signaled Kate because she knew Kate interpreted the wink as flirting on Jack's part instead of him trying to signal her. I thought it was pretty funny and it reminded me of the "you checking me out" scene from Season 1. Sorry Kate, Jack was too busy then and is too busy now to worry about flirting with you, but it made for some great comic relief however brief it was.
axpo23 02-08-2008, 08:29 AM Actually, I thought Juliet was smirking over the fact that Kate didn't interpret the wink correctly. That makes it seems as though the connection between Jack and Kate isn't as strong, and Juliet was enjoying having just bailed her man out of a bad situation while Kate was clueless.
I agree. Even though Kate has made her bed with Sawyer, I think she still likes the attention that Jack gives her and is jealous of any attention he gives Juliet.
100%
At first I thought Jack was trying to pull one over on the Freighties like Zeke did with Jack/Kate et all in the jungle with the torches that night.
workingmom 02-08-2008, 08:36 AM So, I guess Foxy learned to wink over the summer (maybe while filming Speed Racer? ;) ) and they decided to use his new talent to the max? Hee.
Actually, I thought Juliet was smirking over the fact that Kate didn't interpret the wink correctly. That makes it seems as though the connection between Jack and Kate isn't as strong, and Juliet was enjoying having just bailed her man out of a bad situation while Kate was clueless. Yes, Juliet was laughing because Kate was clueless, which is pretty odd since she was so clever lifting the sat phone in the last episode. And throughout the last three episode, Jack and Kate have pretty much communicated by mental telepathy while working together, each knowing what the other needed done (like Kate going off to check the perimeter when Ben and Alex appeared in TTLG). I guess Kate thought, "hell of a time to take me into the jungle for some private time" :rolleyes: since she's accustomed to the more obvious method of a man walking into her tent asking for "afternoon delight, erm, sex."
Again I stipulate that Jack is more than a mere back surgeon. I have said it before and I stick to that opinion..especially after last nights eppy.
Which was great by the way... Yes, we see that he's a good marksman and his tracking and observation skills have improved since Season 1 since he sensed Sayid in the jungle.
That scene was, by the way, an awesome turnabout of The Hunting Party where Miles, instead of Jack, says he doesn't believe there are gunmen in the trees.
mikebinos 02-08-2008, 10:17 AM Did no one think of Dr. Suds during the wink scene? The first thing I thought was, holy crap, what if Dr. Suds is right? What if they threw in "Didn't you notice the wink" as a blatantly obvious "haven't you noticed all the winks throughout the show? haven't you noticed all the clues that this is all fake? why don't you listen to Dr. Suds!!!!?!"
And that scared me
Dezdemona 02-08-2008, 10:29 AM Actually, I thought Juliet was smirking over the fact that Kate didn't interpret the wink correctly. That makes it seems as though the connection between Jack and Kate isn't as strong, and Juliet was enjoying having just bailed her man out of a bad situation while Kate was clueless.
Juliet had a big grin on her face, like she was thinking, "Dumb but cute." Kate had a smaller smile, more like, "Oh for Pete's sake!" ;)
I think everyone will read this one differently. I certainly didn't get Ausiello's read at all.
The wink cracked me up though. Two winks in two episodes straight, I couldn't help thinking Ack_Attack just might need a wink-o-meter for her recaps this season. LOL.
eyris 02-08-2008, 11:02 AM I don't think Kate interpreted it as flirting. It came right after he said "let's let this play out." The situation was too tense to interpret it that way. She simply didn't see Juliet and Sayid, and for some reason Jack did. The situation echoed the "should we tell her" scene last season where Kate became aware that Juliet and Jack were keeping her in the dark.
Apparently it does bother Kate that Juliet is just as capable at tracking and being Sayid's sidekick, Jack's ally, etc. As if Juliet is taking the special role that Kate established herself in since in season 1.
alicou22 02-08-2008, 11:11 AM I thought that both Juliet & Kate smirked because they thought the wink was not such a great indication that back up was there
Dany_E 02-08-2008, 11:40 AM I don't think Kate interpreted it as flirting. It came right after he said "let's let this play out." The situation was too tense to interpret it that way. She simply didn't see Juliet and Sayid, and for some reason Jack did. The situation echoed the "should we tell her" scene last season where Kate became aware that Juliet and Jack were keeping her in the dark.
Apparently it does bother Kate that Juliet is just as capable at tracking and being Sayid's sidekick, Jack's ally, etc. As if Juliet is taking the special role that Kate established herself in since in season 1.
I saw it the same way, eyris. Kate is threatened by a new alpha-female presence and is being a little pissy about it. Jack, as usual, misses the subtext of female interaction and is like "But, I winked?" Juliet laughed cause she knows what's going on. Kate didn't laugh, so much, as give a begrudging smirk "Yeah OK - just shut up about it."
briar910 02-08-2008, 11:29 PM I think everyone will read this one differently. I certainly didn't get Ausiello's read at all.
I agree. I don't think the scene was entirely clear cut, (at least to me it wasn't) but it was cute little moment in between serious scenes.
Diesels Blitz 02-08-2008, 11:38 PM That scene was, by the way, an awesome turnabout of The Hunting Party where Miles, instead of Jack, says he doesn't believe there are gunmen in the trees.
The only thing missing was Tom's great line of "This is our island." I wish Jack would've said it. :biggrin:
toddintexas 02-08-2008, 11:53 PM The only thing missing was Tom's great line of "This is our island." I wish Jack would've said it. :biggrin:
Yes, it seems like our Losties have come full circle haven't they. Jack may not have said Tom's line, but I liked Jack's line all the same...."I dunno Miles, how stupid are you?":biggrin:
freighter hater 02-09-2008, 09:48 AM I got the impression that Juliet found Jack's cluelessness charming and that Kate was kinda thinking "you're hopeless" but in an amused kind of way
sk8rpro 02-09-2008, 04:23 PM Yes, it seems like our Losties have come full circle haven't they. Jack may not have said Tom's line, but I liked Jack's line all the same...."I dunno Miles, how stupid are you?":biggrin:
Ya, I know. It's weird, we liked that scene because a mini-purge has taken place, and our people seem to be on top of it all.
In the other camp, when Charlotte came, she was (or seemed) friendly, and when she talked about getting rescue, Locke's camp gives icy glares and tells them in different words, "Who the hell are you? Why would we want rescue? You're coming with us!"
Friends, the Lostaways have become the Others!
The wink was awesome, I'm trying to place if I've seen Jack do that before on the series.
Dr. Suds 02-09-2008, 07:09 PM Did no one think of Dr. Suds during the wink scene? The first thing I thought was, holy crap, what if Dr. Suds is right? What if they threw in "Didn't you notice the wink" as a blatantly obvious "haven't you noticed all the winks throughout the show?
That's exactly what I thought. They were using Jack to talk to us.
100%
The wink was awesome, I'm trying to place if I've seen Jack do that before on the series.
Locke's been the big winker.
jane_eire 02-10-2008, 10:49 AM The wink was blatant. Sudsy is right, they are all cons. Jack's winking is getting out of hand, though. So over the top. No wonder they decided he had to go.
I think Locke started winking at us at the beginning of HOTRS.
LooseEnds 02-15-2008, 10:32 PM I don't think Kate interpreted it as flirting. It came right after he said "let's let this play out." The situation was too tense to interpret it that way. She simply didn't see Juliet and Sayid, and for some reason Jack did. The situation echoed the "should we tell her" scene last season where Kate became aware that Juliet and Jack were keeping her in the dark.
In rewatching this episode last night, I realized how Jack knew about Sayid and Juliet. While Kate was trying to sweet-talk Daniel into putting the gun down, Jack was sort of scanning the jungle around them, and they show his face while he pauses and focuses on one specific location. It's at this point that he must have seen Sayid & Juliet, because right after that comes the "let's let this play out" and wink.
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