In the kids room that Miles goes to ghost-bust: http://gallery.lost-media.com/displayimage-1368-216.html

It's obviously not a real poster for the book or movie Battle Royale... but the mere fact that it says it is worth mentioning...

The story follows a class of students who are chosen for the "Program" - aka Battle Royale, in which they must fight each other to the death. Under the guise of a 'study trip', a group of students from Shiroiwa Junior High School are gassed on a bus. They awaken in a school on an isolated, evacuated island, wearing metal collars around their necks. After being briefed about the Program, the students are issued survival packs (along with a random weapon or tool) and sent out one by one. While some of the students receive guns and knives, many students acquire useless items like boomerangs, common dartboard darts, and forks. In some cases, instead of a weapon, the student receives a tool; Hiroki Sugimura receives a radar that tracks nearby students, and Toshinori Oda receives a bulletproof vest.

In the end, four students remain: Shuya, Noriko, Shogo, and Kazuo. There is a car chase and shoot-out between the three main characters and Kazuo. Kazuo is killed after the chase ends. Shogo then takes his two partners to a hill where there are a lot of trees. After telling Shuya and Noriko that he will kill them, Shogo shoots in the air twice, faking their deaths for the microphones planted on the collars. He then dismantles the collars.

When Shogo is on the winner's ship, Shuya and Noriko board it and kill the soldiers on board. Shogo tells Shuya how to escape, succumbs to his wounds and dies. The two remaining students go to the mainland, where they become fugitives.

The "Program" is officially a military research program. However, throughout the story, various characters suggest other reasons for it, such as (i) that it is an out-dated psychological experiment that no-one has dared to refute, (ii) that it provides a betting opportunity for high-ranking officials. It is later proposed that the Program is a means of terrorizing the population, with the idea that routinely witnessing such atrocities will cause people to become too paranoid and divided to stage an organized rebellion. However, no reason is clearly advocated, and the reader is left to decide which, if any, are correct.

Do you realise that the term "Battle Royale" has been around long, long, long before it was used for that film? I think if they meant it as a reference to the film they'd have put up a poster of the film.
There is a 15 on the wall though ! :eek: (joking)

True, it would have been a more direct reference to the movie if it were an actual poster, but I have seen this movie and I can't deny some of the similarites-- the Island survival scenario, the changing loyalties, the slowly-decreasing roster of characters (and they even begin with about 45 students, I believe).

That being said, I couldn't stand the movie. We watched it in a group viewing with my university's anime club (it's a Japanese film) and it just struck me as graphically violent for the sake of shock value. Plus, it's very different to see those circumstances thrust on innocent high school children. Many friends have tried to argue with me that it was offering some kind of "message" about human nature, but any such message is ultimately pretty depressing.

I'd steer away from it if you haven't seen it.

A good laugh when watching LOST.

In the dead boy's room there are some posters on the wall. Football players with a huge 15 printed on it.

But what makes me laugh is the word "Battle Royale".
This might refer to a film from Asia in which in a overpopulated and aggressive future pupils are transported to an island, given weapons and then given assignments to kill other pupils. The island is segmented into hexagonal shapes, some of them safe for getting food (but only when a signal is transmitted across loudspeakers all over the place).
In a "ten little indians" game the film shows those average pupils turning into murderers. Only the last surviving pupils are allowed to leave the island.......

The film was so successful in Asia that there is already a sequel......

Hmm, yeah I've seen Battle Royal but doubt there's any connection to Lost. Probably just something planted there to get us going. :)

Do you realise that the term "Battle Royale" has been around long, long, long before it was used for that film? I think if they meant it as a reference to the film they'd have put up a poster of the film.
There is a 15 on the wall though ! :eek: (joking)

I suppose the prop department was a fan of the movie which had a similar topic. Maybe the dead boy has visited the Battle Royale island.... ;)

In fact the words look like being clips or a kind of tape that holds the football poster.
Do the football posters have any significant meaning?

Maybe it's just an indication there is about to be a battle royale between the difference factions of the island... the other thing I found amusing on the wall. "Unleash the Beast"... watch out for Smokie.. :-)

I think the "resurrection" album cover on the left is even more interesting.

I think the "resurrection" album cover on the left is even more interesting.

So did I. It sure looked more like Yemi than any of the other suggestions so far. And resurrection would go along with his life choice.:confused:

I think the "resurrection" album cover on the left is even more interesting.

Yeah, that stood out more to me as well.

What I find interesting about this screenshot is the fact this room is pretty well organized for some gang banging drug slinger. Desk top calendar on the desk, text books schedules on the wall.. A weightlifting regimen on the closet door... Some sort of clipping of a bar graph on the cork board... Check out the bad *** NES system under the TV. All the trophies. Multiple corkboards with schedules.. Quite obviously into sports. Very odd.

A weightlifting regimen on the closet door... All the trophies... Quite obviously into sports...

Going along with some of what phorkster said.... seems like the grandson was into sports.
Battle Royale also has been used for wrestling.. WWF (WWE.. whatever their called now-a-days). Could just be a WWF fan... they use to have matches called Battle Royales.

But what makes me laugh is the word "Battle Royale".
This might refer to a film from Asia in which in a overpopulated and aggressive future pupils are transported to an island, given weapons and then given assignments to kill other pupils. The island is segmented into hexagonal shapes, some of them safe for getting food (but only when a signal is transmitted across loudspeakers all over the place).
In a "ten little indians" game the film shows those average pupils turning into murderers. Only the last surviving pupils are allowed to leave the island.......

The film was so successful in Asia that there is already a sequel......


Erm... you do realize that you're talking about the same movie described by the topic creator as the reason for the thread?

The "Program" is officially a military research program. However, throughout the story, various characters suggest other reasons for it, such as (i) that it is an out-dated psychological experiment that no-one has dared to refute, (ii) that it provides a betting opportunity for high-ranking officials. It is later proposed that the Program is a means of terrorizing the population, with the idea that routinely witnessing such atrocities will cause people to become too paranoid and divided to stage an organized rebellion. However, no reason is clearly advocated, and the reader is left to decide which, if any, are correct.Very interesting story, one I have never heard before. Where I think a similarity may be is at the end of Lost I think it will be left to us to figure out what it was to some degree. I know the writers promise this and that but it can be so many things right now just like that story you shared in your post.Is that a book as well as a movie?

I don't think the condition of the room means much of anything other than the guy lived with his gandma (mama?) and she kept his room tidy.

Battle Royalle is a great film.

RodimusBen >
Erm... you do realize that you're talking about the same movie described by the topic creator as the reason for the thread?


Two Threads were merged.

Ah... Thanks, Lucidity... always keepin' me in line. :budi:

RodimusBen >
Ah... Thanks, Lucidity... always keepin' me in line. :budi:


After I posted it I suddenly remembered that thing the other day and thought : He's going to think I'm stalking him ! I'm not. Promise.

And cool Smilie, I'd never seen that one before.

Hmm, yeah I've seen Battle Royal but doubt there's any connection to Lost. Probably just something planted there to get us going. :)

In the WWF it is the simple concept of everyone into the ring one after another and the participants go at until there is only one man standing throughout the battle there are temporary alliances and constant back stabbing. The poster was foreshadowing for what will come this season, the Losties bttling amongst themselves

his room is clean so he should not be suspected of selling or doing drugs.....that's an intersting take.
did I miss them reffering to him as a gang banging drug slinger and could someone clarify what actually qualifies someone as a 'gang banger'? or 'drug slinger'? or better yet both together?

Well, I know what "gangbanging" is in British English, but I don't think it means the same thing !

But no, there was no mention of anything like that in the Ep. All that was said is that Miles' policeman buddy had told him that the kid was murdered. My "reading" of the situation would be that he was a well brought-up kid who got into a bit of drugdealing, probably among his schoolmates or something, and stepped on some toes and got killed.

There's a lot of stuff to examine in that room
Dirt Spigot poster - Fire + Water transcript ...hired as a favor to your lawyer. I wanted Dirt Spigot.
Tisha poster - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tisha_B%27Av
The clock on the table reads 11:03 http://lostpedia.com/wiki/ALS_Technologies
2 Wonder Star posters - don't know what they are.

Guess we could go on & on & that's the fun of it ;)

Where are the Wonderstar posters at? Wonderstar has been at the root of many a Theory.

http://gallery.lost-media.com/displayimage-1368-228.html

Here's one & there's another on the other side of the room

What are the other references/theories re: Wonder Star? cool :)

Thanks for that. You've just made seaquelost's day, if cq hasn't seen this already.

The poster on the right first appeared in Charlie's FB when he saves Naomi, and there's a very cool star on it, reminiscent of Juliet's mark. Then there was also a comic series with a similar name, and it had a lot of connections to Lost.

Very cool.

http://gallery.lost-media.com/displayimage-1368-228.html

Here's one & there's another on the other side of the room

What are the other references/theories re: Wonder Star? cool :)

Yep! Here's a cap of the one on the other side of the room. Plus the word "star" again down below it. Perhaps another poster partially covered.

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h220/seaque/3c231a1d.jpg

This is from behind the scenes of Greatest Hits episode where I first saw them. (From dark's board.)

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h220/seaque/7ef00891.jpg

Way back when....I researched "wonder star" that led me to the Star of Bethlehem which is also known as "Jacob's Star". Interesting, h-m-m-m? Plus I've always thought that Juliet's "mark" was a star of some sort which is when I created my avi.

Lucidity....thanks for the heads-up. :smile:

I thought the "unleash the Beast" sticker was interesting given the other apocalyptic references, including the most recent- Mr. Abbadon

Way back when....I researched "wonder star" that led me to the Star of Bethlehem which is also known as "Jacob's Star". Interesting, h-m-m-m?

I love it what a find, something I would have never have caught. Wonder Star interesting and it also being known as Jacob Star makes you think that ladies grandson may have a part to play in all this before it is said and done.

A gang banger is American slang for someone who rolls with gangs and bangs (violence: be it guns, fighting whatever). It was just kind of a loose term I used, obviously we know nothing about the kid.