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Prime Directive
02-08-2008, 10:45 AM
Hope you like them...

When Abaddon first approached Hurley asking him, "Are they still alive!?" I took that to mean he somehow had a vested interest in the rest of the Oceanic 815 survivors. Obviously that isn't the case. I feel since he was the one who atleast "organized" the search for BENJAMIN LINUS he represents the Hanso Corp.

They are probably pretty ***MOD EDIT *** that Ben killed off the entire community. So they are going after him.

BUT since communication and arriving to/leaving the Island are odd things they may not be sure Ben killed them all off. They may just know something's up and he's behind it.

Therefore his "Are they still alive?" question to Hurley could mean the Search Party he sent, Ben and the Others, or maybe even the original Dharma Initiative.

Now for Ben's "Man on the Boat", the mole if you will.

I feel this has got to be MICHAEL.

We all know he is coming back this Season. The boat seems the logical choice for his return. I'm guessing Michael, like we've seen with Hurley & Jack, could not stand the pull of the island demanding him back. Michael being Ben's mole seems like a solid twist they would go for...oh yeah and at the very LEAST we know Michael is on that boat.

Why?

Because as even Jack says himself they don't seem to be very surprised to find out people survived Oceanic 815 crash. If they already had a survivor with them this would make sense. Also since he's gotten on and off the island he'd be their expert in the most important of tasks...finding the damn place...

And finally a theory I just came up with as I typed these ramblings...why were the people on the freighter chosen? What if it is because they were all SUPPOSED to be on the flight and thus can survive.

We know the pilot was SUPPOSED to be on the flight. At the beginning the bearded guy was crying when he saw the news of the wreckage being found. That would be a natural reaction if you were supposed to be on such a flight.

What if NAOMI is the only one who had nothing to do with the flight. And that is how she ended up dead?

She didn't belong on the timeline of the Island like the others...

wednesd777
02-08-2008, 06:26 PM
Very interesting observations. Not bad for your first post!

My question now is that if Michael is on the ship why was Abaddon so adamant about there not being any survivors of 815. And how did Michael come in contact with these people. It makes me think Abaddon is behind some kind of cover up and possibly in charge of sending Michael back to the island with the other survivors. But then again, if that was the case you would think they would have sent him with the others in the helicopter since they may know about the difficulties getting on and off the island and may only have one shot. Who knows.

captnish
02-09-2008, 03:41 PM
I think Michael is on the boat as well, which is why I think Walt came to Locke to tell him that Naomi wasn't to be trusted.

Oddshot
02-09-2008, 09:07 PM
Hope you like them...

When Abaddon first approached Hurley asking him, "Are they still alive!?" I took that to mean he somehow had a vested interest in the rest of the Oceanic 815 survivors. Obviously that isn't the case. I feel since he was the one who atleast "organized" the search for BENJAMIN LINUS he represents the Hanso Corp.

They are probably pretty ***MOD EDIT*** that Ben killed off the entire community. So they are going after him.

BUT since communication and arriving to/leaving the Island are odd things they may not be sure Ben killed them all off. They may just know something's up and he's behind it.

Therefore his "Are they still alive?" question to Hurley could mean the Search Party he sent, Ben and the Others, or maybe even the original Dharma Initiative. .

I have stated on other threads that I think the Dharma Initiative must know what happened on the Island,
1- The Sub could not just dock any where but at the Dharma Dock .
2- The Initiative knew where the Island is because of the supply air drops .
3- The Initiative whould have been resivivg reports on Island Experaments .

Oddshot:cool:

kitten_kath
02-10-2008, 12:38 AM
Guys, Michael coming back to the show is a SPOILER!!!

All talk of future episodes must either be in spoiler font or in the spoiler section. There are people who like to watch the show without knowing ANY details of future episodes. Don't wreck that for them!!!


Kitten_kath.

captnish
02-10-2008, 05:33 PM
If that's a spoiler... I want to live under the same rock, because this show would be awesome if it were possible to avoid something like that, which has been written up in every magazine article and newspaper article on the show this season.

My bad.

Starrox
02-11-2008, 04:28 PM
It doesn't matter how often something has been mentioned in the media, the fact remains that it's info about unaired episodes and as such is still a spoiler according to the site rules. :shrug: Sure, there most likely aren't many posters who haven't heard about that particular spoiler, but once we start making exceptions for one particular spoiler or even for particular types of spoilers, where do we stop? And it's hard enough to keep the board as spoilerfree as it is (you really don't want to know how many hours I spent last week just spoiler fonting posts in the section for TBOTE!), we don't need something to make our "jobs" even more complicated...

captnish
02-13-2008, 11:17 PM
we don't need something to make our "jobs" even more complicated...

Respect. I was just apologizing in my own bizarre way...

Starrox
02-14-2008, 09:14 AM
Oh, I know. :) I was just trying to explain why this particular spoiler is one even though it's probably the worst-kept spoiler in the history of Lost...

FishBiscuit
02-15-2008, 02:11 PM
First post in what feels like years, but....

Why would Michael have agreed to go camp out on a boat instead of the island? At least he knew and somewhat trusted the Losties. Why would he go out to a boat, knowing no one, to be a mole for someone he couldn't trust. If you ask me I think it's Christian.

Good to be back on!

SQT
02-15-2008, 05:00 PM
And finally a theory I just came up with as I typed these ramblings...why were the people on the freighter chosen? What if it is because they were all SUPPOSED to be on the flight and thus can survive.

We know the pilot was SUPPOSED to be on the flight. At the beginning the bearded guy was crying when he saw the news of the wreckage being found. That would be a natural reaction if you were supposed to be on such a flight.

What if NAOMI is the only one who had nothing to do with the flight. And that is how she ended up dead?

She didn't belong on the timeline of the Island like the others...

I haven't seen this mentioned anywhere before, and I LOVE this idea. This would also explain why Charlotte's friend in the desert asked her something like "How many languages do you have to read it in before you believe it." I always wondered why it had such an impact on her, and if she was supposed to be one of those "bodies" found at the bottom of the ocean, it would go a long way to explaining her reaction. That would leave Miles. Weren't they talking about the 815 wreckage on the radio when he was driving to his ghostbuster job? I didn't notice his reaction to it though.

IF that were the case, and I'm stressing the if part, because as much as I love the idea, I'm not totally convinced yet... but IF they were supposed to be on that flight, that would have put the four of them in Australia in September 2004.

It would leave an opening for some Australian flashback crossovers too. How cool would that be to get a flashback to pre-flight Australia from one of the Freighters, and seeing Sawyer or Claire casually walking by in the background?