Naomi and Elsa had the same bracelets. What's up with that?

I noticed that too. I think the Elsa and Naomi had the same boss.

It must be a signal about who they work for. I assume all of Sayid's intended targets will have them. The inscription is probably code. Naomi's was signed "R.G."

Guess that was the jewelery reference we got from the podcast, very interesting

I wonder if the guy on the golf course had one (I didn't notice one).

So, did Naomi, Nadia, and Elsa all have the same bracelets? I say Sayid look at Naomi's bracelet, now I'm wondering.

Who wants to bet they both work(ed) for Abbadon????

Maybe Abaddon. imaaronsmom, why did you mention Nadia? She had a bracelet like that?

I figured that was Naomi's bracelet that Sayid kept and he gave it to Elsa

So, did Naomi, Nadia, and Elsa all have the same bracelets? I say Sayid look at Naomi's bracelet, now I'm wondering.

When did we see Nadia with or without a bracelet?

makes sense if we think abou them being the bad guys that are after ben.....

For a second I thought that maybe Sayid had given the bracelet (Naomi's) to Elsa, but that wouldn't make any sense. Why would you give a bracelet inscribed to another woman, to your girlfriend? "Here, Happy Valentine's Day! I am giving you a bracelet with some other chick's name written on it! But don't worry about it, she's dead!" No, the more I think about it, I believe that Elsa and Naomi either reported to the same boss, or were part of the same company or group, with the bracelets as a signal to each other.

I'm not sure why Nadia would've had one though.

I figured that was Naomi's bracelet that Sayid kept and he gave it to Elsa

As a romantic gift? But why would he give her a bracelet with other people's initials on it?

I figured that was Naomi's bracelet that Sayid kept and he gave it to Elsa

God, I hope not. Rolling a dead woman and giving your new girlfriend her inscribed bracelet is tre tacky.

;)

I wondered if Sayid, prior to the crash, might have worked for "the economist." He seemed very upset about Naomi, almost as if he'd known her before. I can't see getting that attached just in the time that she was in the beach camp with them. And it was like he knew the meaning of the bracelet.

Well, we can all be looking for R.G.s from now on.

Cardie

I don't think Sayid worked for the Economist.... but maybe..... he did seem connected to Naomi, like he really cared about her in some way. hmmm

I took his caring more as a religious thing - he was praying when he heard the insects and went over to her body. The reason he ended up on 815 was because he refused to let his terrorist friend be cremated and stayed to make sure he was buried.. I think he just felt the body needed to be buried properly.

"What kind of bad guys wear matching jewelry?" MamaThor says.

"The dumb*ss kind." I replied.

We were all laughing when we saw the matching bracelet on Elsa. It reminded us of the James Bond villains who all wore the same ring. You know the rings with what looked like a spider or something like that. Oh yeah, it was SPECTRE (SPecial Executive for Counter-intelligence, Terrorism, Revenge and Extortion).

They might as well have had "I'm a bad guy" pin on their lapels or a target circle on their backs.

Who is R.G. though? Have we had anybody with those initials yet. Anybody?

Was I the only one who thought they looked like Cartier bracelets? From the Love collection with screws?

Was it R.G? I thought I saw R.C.

Oh well, I have no idea either way, but I doubt it was the same bracelet. As others have said, it had a very personal (seemingly) inscription on it.

I'm not sure why Nadia would've had one though.

I think I was just confused there. Sorry, I didn't mean to confuse everyone else along with me...:confused: Nadia, Naomi...I think I just read too fast and got confused.

I'll echo most of the sentiment in this thread: The bracelets are identifying marks of people working for the same employer. Both Naomi and Elsa worked for the same person, the "Economist", who isn't really an economist. It's probable that person is Matthew Abaddon, or someone he works for. RG could be his real initials, code, or nothing at all.

jin was a hitman for mr.paik. abaddon could be working for him.

Was it R.G? I thought I saw R.C.

Oh well, I have no idea either way, but I doubt it was the same bracelet. As others have said, it had a very personal (seemingly) inscription on it.

I had someone say the same thing on another LOST group I read. New confusion. I guess we'll have to study some screencaps. I tried checking it on one of the sneak peeks, and of course, the second initial seems slightly obscured.

I thought it was a G.... :confused:

Anyone remember exactly what the inscription said? I read it, and thought "remember that" and then after seeing Ben at the end, I totally forgot everything else... :(

Naomi+Elsa=RG's Angels.
There will be a flashback spin off ala Expose'.
Just wait- angel #3 will turn up.

Maybe Abaddon. imaaronsmom, why did you mention Nadia? She had a bracelet like that?

I'll bet you're right - Adaddon!

Well, we know that there's a Regina on the boat. Possibly Naomi, Regina and Elsa all work for the same person so they would have the same bracelet?

ETA: I agree that the person is most likely Abaddon.

Anyone remember exactly what the inscription said? I read it, and thought "remember that" and then after seeing Ben at the end, I totally forgot everything else... :(

The inscription reads: N, I'll always be with you. R.G. Interesting that N, R, and G are all capitalized.

N-Naomi?
R-Regina?
G-?

My thought after seeing that Elsa had a bracelet like that was maybe she and Naomi were part of a cult or something but the idea that Elsa's "economist" is RG is equally intriguing and probably closer to the truth.

The inscription reads: N, I'll always be with you. R.G. Interesting that N, R, and G are all capitalized.

N-Naomi?
R-Regina?
G-?


G = George Minkowsi perhaps?

Maybe Regina's last name is Minkowski also.

I wondered if Sayid, prior to the crash, might have worked for "the economist." He seemed very upset about Naomi, almost as if he'd known her before. I can't see getting that attached just in the time that she was in the beach camp with them. And it was like he knew the meaning of the bracelet.

Well, we can all be looking for R.G.s from now on.

Cardie

It could be just his being a decent guy and wanting Naomi's body to be buried, like Darkteach said, but I also felt like he seemed more concerned about Naomi's body than i would have expected. It is almost as if his attention to the dead Naomi is supposed to be seen as a clue for something.

G = George Minkowsi perhaps?

Maybe Regina's last name is Minkowski also.

Could be. George and Regina are being set-up as important characters (IMO), even if they're as of now unseen.


I find it interesting that there could be a parallel between the Oceanic 6 +1 and the number of important Freighties (also seven): Lapidus, Faraday, Charlotte, Miles, Regina, George, and Naomi.

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It could be just his being a decent guy and wanting Naomi's body to be buried, like Darkteach said, but I also felt like he seemed more concerned about Naomi's body than i would have expected. It is almost as if his attention to the dead Naomi is supposed to be seen as a clue for something.

I think what we witnessed on Sayid's part was equal parts common decency, respect for his Muslim faith, a nod to "diplomacy" and the fruits of his conversation with Ben, with a heavy emphasis on the last point.

anyone remember what it said on the back of nadia's picture to sayid? perhaps theres a loose connection there maybe? something familiar to sayid to make him snatch that bracelet with such deep intent to get on that freighter.

anyone remember what it said on the back of nadia's picture to sayid? perhaps theres a loose connection there maybe? something familiar to sayid to make him snatch that bracelet with such deep intent to get on that freighter.

"You'll find me in the next life, if not in this one." A similar message to what was found on Naomi's bracelet.

If Elsa was a spy and an assasin,its feasible that Elsa wasn't her real name.Could her initials be RG?
If they had went to the same assasin training school,Naomi and Elsa could be lovers,and bought each other identical bracelets

Maybe when Sayid saw Noami's bracelet he recognized it from somewhere else. Desmond wanted on the helicopter to find out why Naomi lied about Penny; maybe Sayid wanted on for a similar reason - to find out what the bracelet means.

I think that the bracelet signifies a connection of who they were working for, or with. Who that person is, or what their purpose is... I have no idea yet. Sayid knew she worked for him, he just didn't know she worked with him. Maybe the bracelet was how he identified her in the coffee shop.

I don't think he was overly attached to Naomi. I don't think there is any personal connection, on or off the island. I think that scene was showing that although he is/has/will likely do really BAD things, he's not a BAD man. It was a compassionate gesture. It's showing the conflict between good and evil... a long standing LOST theme.

I took his caring more as a religious thing - he was praying when he heard the insects and went over to her body. The reason he ended up on 815 was because he refused to let his terrorist friend be cremated and stayed to make sure he was buried.. I think he just felt the body needed to be buried properly.

Agreed. And I think it was meant as a contrast - here he was on the island showing so much reverance for Naomi's loss of life, and then here is shown in the real world killing people for a living. How miserable must he be, and much of a hold must Ben have over him to force him to kill people?

I thought there was little doubt that these two had the same employer wouldn't be surprised if these bracelets were just tracking devices for their employees. A simple piece of jewelery wouldn't raise any flags with most, but Sayid knows what to look for and that is why he gravitated towards it. He knew Naomi was part of something bigger, and we saw his curiousity not his compassion.

I couldn't tell if they were R.C. or R.G.

R.G. are the initials

I thought it was R C but I'm waiting for an HD screen cap. Also did Elsa have on a similiar bracelet? Could she and Naomi have worked for the same man?

The screen cap I saw appeared to be RC. It looks like RC likes to give his/her employees the same bracelet.

Yes, I thought Elsa's bracelet was the same as Naomi's. Maybe RC or RG is someone they both worked for...

I saw R.G., but could be wrong, however, I did find information of an american physicist named Roy Glauber who won 1/2 of the nobel peace prize for his work on...well, here read for yourself.

Roy Glauber's recent research has dealt with problems in a number of areas of quantum optics, a field which, broadly speaking, studies the quantum electrodynamical interactions of light and matter. He is also continuing work on several topics in high- energy collision theory, including the analysis of hadron collisions, and the statistical correlation of particles produced in high-energy reactions.
Specific topics of his current research include: the quantum mechanical behavior of trapped wave packets; interactions of light with trapped ions; atom counting-the statistical properties of free atom beams and their measurement; algebraic methods for dealing with fermion statistics; coherence and correlations of bosonic atoms near the Bose-Einstein condensation; the theory of continuously monitored photon counting-and its reaction on quantum sources; the fundamental nature of “quantum jumps”; resonant transport of particles produced multiply in high-energy collisions; the multiple diffraction model of proton-proton and proton-antiproton scattering.

Can anyone think of a Lost character with those initials..? I'm blanking

I confirm it's RG and not RC, as seen on my paused HD video.

I thought I saw R.C., not R.G., but you know how that goes... until you see a good scan, I guess it could be anything.

Only person from past shows whose initials match up with either of those (that I can think of) is Juliet's sister, Rachel Carlson.

OOPS... I take back what I said earlier. A close up of that cap and it's DEFINITELY RG.

http://bp1.blogger.com/_RrObyQ3XzcY/R7VYQm3EfOI/AAAAAAAATwI/WxMVmXX9U0w/s1600-h/lost.s04e03.720p.hdtv.x264-ctu.mkv_000122080.jpg

Robert Goodspeed...son/father of Horace Goodspeed....looking for revenge?

(total speculation)

I guess my mind is a bit more time-warped. Sayid purposely looked for the bracelet on Naomi, and it seemed it wasn't a surprise to him. The first thing I thought of after seeing the German woman's bracelet was that Sayid was part of the Desmondesque time iteration --like, how many times has Sayid repeated the island visitation, and was he ultimately responsible for the bracelet on Naomi? Was it a personal clue to him that something bizarre was going on, that is now rising to his consciousness, just like Desmond's visions?

Someone in another thread mentioned screencaps of Naomi's bracelet prior to her death. Are they out there yet?

I had thought that the initials could be for Regina on the Freighter...as they seemed to have similiar voices...and that maybe it was Naomi's sister.

ok, you have people working secretly for a secret employer, so they wear the same bracelets, so as to make them very identifiable? Don't think so. More likely Sayid took Naomi's bracelet and gave it to Elsa. For some reason, Sayid felt a very strong connection to Naomi. He actually decided to leave the island the moment he saw the bracelet. That clicked something for him. Maybe naomi looked like or reminded him of Nadia, somehow. sheesh, if only we knew who RG is?

ok, you have people working secretly for a secret employer, so they wear the same bracelets, so as to make them very identifiable? Don't think so. More likely Sayid took Naomi's bracelet and gave it to Elsa. For some reason, Sayid felt a very strong connection to Naomi. He actually decided to leave the island the moment he saw the bracelet. That clicked something for him. Maybe naomi looked like or reminded him of Nadia, somehow. sheesh, if only we knew who RG is?

I think it has to be for a more specific reason than "for some reason." And who would give a bracelet engraved with monograms and a message to a third party?
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I thought there was little doubt that these two had the same employer wouldn't be surprised if these bracelets were just tracking devices for their employees. A simple piece of jewelery wouldn't raise any flags with most, but Sayid knows what to look for and that is why he gravitated towards it. He knew Naomi was part of something bigger, and we saw his curiousity not his compassion.

i like this.
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I thought there was little doubt that these two had the same employer wouldn't be surprised if these bracelets were just tracking devices for their employees. A simple piece of jewelery wouldn't raise any flags with most, but Sayid knows what to look for and that is why he gravitated towards it. He knew Naomi was part of something bigger, and we saw his curiousity not his compassion.

I like this theory.

Well, there you go... R.G. Good to know.

Nice screen shot. Thanks!

Definitely the same bracelet. But I'm voting for a personal connection between Sayid's German woman and Naomi. Maybe Sayid's lady was Regina from the freighter? The bracelet did say "N, I will always love you, R.G." Maybe they were personally involved?

Definitely the same bracelet. But I'm voting for a personal connection between Sayid's German woman and Naomi. Maybe Sayid's lady was Regina from the freighter? The bracelet did say "N, I will always love you, R.G." Maybe they were personally involved?
Actually it said, "I will always be with you," not "I will always love you." Much more potentially ominous.

Am I the only one who thinks there is a connection between the employer and the bracelets - Abaddon?

I had thought that the initials could be for Regina on the Freighter...as they seemed to have similiar voices...and that maybe it was Naomi's sister.

I thought of Regina as well, but remember Miles saying "that was the code. Naomi doesn't have a sister!"

Actually it said, "I will always be with you," not "I will always love you." Much more potentially ominous.

I'm still voting for a friendship or deeper relationship between the two women. And that the German woman is Regina on the freighter.

First time poster....does anyone know Goodwin's first name?

I had thought that the initials could be for Regina on the Freighter...as they seemed to have similiar voices...and that maybe it was Naomi's sister.

100% agreed! Thats the first thing I thought.
Perhaps that is why Miles had to explain, the code to Daniel...

The words went over Daniels head in other words. He knew
what Naomi said over the walkie and interpreted simply as,
tell my sister (Regina) I love her.

I think the bracelets could definately be from Abadon, who is working for Widmore.

I just checked lostpedia, and it says that Goodwin's first name is unknown. I also think Abbadon is the head boss. Not necessarily the person who directly supervised Elsa though. There could be a person in between with the initials R.G.

Were they matching bracelets? Or could Sayid have given Elsa (is that her name?) Naomi's bracelet?

I suggested in another thread that the Economist could be Jacob. Remember Elsa's comment about her employer being old fashioned?
As far as the initials, well, Jacob could be the name he goes by ON the island....

Were they matching bracelets? Or could Sayid have given Elsa (is that her name?) Naomi's bracelet?

Only if he was nutz!! "Elsa, my love, here's a dead girls bracelet for you. UGH

No I'd be more inclined to think that they both work for the same group.

Are there screen caps of both bracelets from the outside? Elsa's looks more delicate to me.

read this. kind of coincidental: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Adventures_of_Tintin

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_714 : very coincidental.

Okay I just realized that the R.G. on the bracelet is probably not the Regina on the freighter. Sayid is on his way to the freighter and will meet Regina. Unless Sayid and Elsa both pretended not to know each other in Germany, which I think is really unlikely, Regina is not R.G.

Just got a thought. The bracelet says N. and from R.G. Since There is no last name for N, could that mean that R.G. is a first name and middle name...........meaning could like Richard Alperts middle name start with a G. :eek2:

...and if not him it would expand the possible people quite a bit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._G._D._Allen happened to be an economist

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_Georgescu-Roegen so is this guy

wikipedia is fun

That Rin Tin Rin flight 714 is spooky in it's Lost-ness

Did Naomi have on the bracelet when she initially met with Abbadon in the empty office? Screencap anyone?
This would possibly tell us if the got the bracelet from Abbadon, which would tell us that Elsa got her bracelet from the same person/group (or that they both shop at Target).

Can RG = Republican Guard? I know it doesn't make sense, but I can't get it out of my head.

There's another bracelet thread where I posted:
Could RG = Republican Guard? Doesn't make any sense to me but it popped into my head and now I can't shake it.

Just got a thought. The bracelet says N. and from R.G. Since There is no last name for N, could that mean that R.G. is a first name and middle name...........meaning could like Richard Alperts middle name start with a G. :eek2:

...and if not him it would expand the possible people quite a bit.

My first thought as well. Many people use first and middle initials on inscriptions of that sort. I'm betting it is Richard Widmore (i think his 1st name is), so his middle is 'G'. Have we ever seen that anywhere? It Fits with the idea that Naomi had the copied pic of Penny and Desmond, and is higher 'ranking' than the rest of the chopper 5. Who else would be able to provide a copy of that?

The inscription is creepy as well: "N, I will always be with you, R.G." Sound s like something a mafia boss would say to a new member?

Another good bet is that Widmore and Hanso had been working together to create Dharma long ago. Could Elsa have been talking German to Hanso on the phone (or was it Danish?)

For sure the 2 bracelets were the same..the way Sayid looked at Elsa's was for sure a "look at the big clue" moment.

I think there is a 'war' going on between the Dharma/Hanso/Widmore's and the Others for control of the power of the Island.

I like the idea of G for George, considering how frantic he sounded when Naomi finally made contact with him again. I really did think she was going to tell him she loved him before she passed out, but she passed that "Tell my sister" code along instead.

As for the R, we have Juliet's sister, Rachel. If the team is targeting Ben, and it became known that Juliet was involved with Ben, maybe the Abaddon wanted Rachel involved as extra insurance? If Rachel is on the boat, and she talked about her long lost sister Juliet, it could be another reason Frank recognized Juliet as a native.

I'm betting the G is for Gannon, as in the travel agency brochure on the back of all the Oceanic 815 tickets we have seen.

I think the bracelets are tracking devices. The message "I will always be with you" is rather ominous, and that two women were wearing the same bracelet is kind of weird for the bracelet to sentimental.

I think the bracelets are tracking devices. The message "I will always be with you" is rather ominous, and that two women were wearing the same bracelet is kind of weird for the bracelet to sentimental.

I completely agree and JUST thought of that I as I looked at one of the screencaps. Definitely tracking devices.

No bracelet on Sayid's early kill: http://gallery.lost-media.com/displayimage-1376-37.html

Best I can tell on zoom, no bracelet during Naomi's meeting: http://gallery.lost-media.com/displayimage-1368-570.html

Wow...can't believe after 5 pages no one has said this yet. There are other sites with screen caps up...they aren't the same bracelets.

Naomi's if very industrial looking...brushed finish with 2 machine screws piercing the band. Elsa's had a shiny, reflective finish, with a decorative band minus the screws.

ok, I agree it looks like a tracking device. As for the RG letters. The phrase is very doubious and could indicate that she is indeed being tracked. Who is RG? The name Abaddon strikes me as very very fake. Why would a family have such an ominous name? So, Matthew Abaddon has a much more common name, say R(...) Gardner, as would be a relative of Mrs. Gardner, the grandmother of the murdered kid Miles "ghostbusted". That's how Matthew Abaddon came in contact with Miles. Either to test the guy or after the lady told him the story.

Am I the only one who thinks there is a connection between the employer and the bracelets - Abaddon?

That was my immediate thought as well. I instantly thought that's who Elsa was talking to on the phone just before she shot Sayid. As far as the initials go, I'm still scratching my head over that.

The message on Naomi's bracelet used "I," so I doubt that R and G are two different people. Mrs. Gardner may indeed be a clue.

Cardie

I think the person who asked what Goodwin's first name is, may be on to something. But how would Naomi know Goodwin pre island? He claimed to be in the Peace Corps which could be a lie.. or not. It'd be quite interesting if both Naomi and Elsa had bracelets from him :)

ok, I agree it looks like a tracking device. As for the RG letters. The phrase is very doubious and could indicate that she is indeed being tracked. Who is RG? The name Abaddon strikes me as very very fake. Why would a family have such an ominous name? So, Matthew Abaddon has a much more common name, say R(...) Gardner, as would be a relative of Mrs. Gardner, the grandmother of the murdered kid Miles "ghostbusted". That's how Matthew Abaddon came in contact with Miles. Either to test the guy or after the lady told him the story. How this could have happened, I don't know but I completely forgot about Mrs. Gardner! :doh: It could be that you are on the right track with this theory.

The message on Naomi's bracelet used "I," so I doubt that R and G are two different people. Mrs. Gardner may indeed be a clue.

Cardie

The bracelet message was "N., I'll be with you always, R.G." so you're right, Cardie about it probably not being two people.

The message on Naomi's bracelet used "I," so I doubt that R and G are two different people. Mrs. Gardner may indeed be a clue.

Cardie

I think it's one person, too. And I think the N might stand for Naomi and the RG for Regina. Maybe Naomi really does have a sister and it is Regina on the boat. Maybe Naomi calls her RG, kind of a nickname. Sayid could be thinking the same thing and has gotten suspicious, which led him to find a way onto the helicopter (gets Charlotte back). Plus, I thought Regina sounded a lot like Naomi.

The whole code thing about Naomi not having a sister didn't ring true to me, especially after Miles had to emphasize it to Dan by repeating the phrase "tell my sister I love her" and using an example of Jack saying it to Kate to further drive it home. He was trying too hard.

And wasn't Naomi lying there with her eyes wide open just a little too reminiscent of Nikki? Well, maybe that's a stretch - she's probably dead - but I think Sayid suspects something similar.

And I'm going on record now as saying Ben ends up on that freighter, too. The O6 will be ushered into the dining cabin to have dinner with the captain, who has his back to the door. He'll spin around to greet them as they're seated with a milk mustache. :biggrin: Oh gawd, I need to get some sleep!!!

I figured that was Naomi's bracelet that Sayid kept and he gave it to Elsa

That was my impression too, though it seems a bit creepy that Sayid would steal a bracelet off a dead woman and give it to someone else like that.

the bracelets are different. the one sayid saw in his FF reminded him of naomis.

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e13/napalmsoup/lost/4x03_braclets.jpg (http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e13/napalmsoup/lost/4x03_braclets.jpg)

1) Yes, the bracelets are different. SO, what I am about to say pertains to the chance that they DO come from the same person: Some people talked about how 'rougher' Naomi's is and how 'sleeker' Elsa's is. Of course they are! Naomi is going through rough weather, a time paradox, and a crash landing with a parachute onto a hostile island! Elsa is wandering through Europe and picking up foreign men! Which do YOU think would need a tougher bracelet?!?!

2)Am I the only one who thought that Regina sounded exactly like Naomi?? Maybe a twin???

The voice of Regina comes from Zoe Bell, a New Zealander. Marsha Thomason is from Manchester, England. Those accents hardly sound alike.

Cardie

1) Yes, the bracelets are different. SO, what I am about to say pertains to the chance that they DO come from the same person: Some people talked about how 'rougher' Naomi's is and how 'sleeker' Elsa's is. Of course they are! Naomi is going through rough weather, a time paradox, and a crash landing with a parachute onto a hostile island! Elsa is wandering through Europe and picking up foreign men! Which do YOU think would need a tougher bracelet?!?!

2)Am I the only one who thought that Regina sounded exactly like Naomi?? Maybe a twin???

No, you're not the only one. See my post a few threads above yours. :)

The voice of Regina comes from Zoe Bell, a New Zealander. Marsha Thomason is from Manchester, England. Those accents hardly sound alike.

Cardie

Are you saying the actress Zoe Bell is from NZ? If so that hardly matters for the show. Remember Naveen has a British accent IRL but has an Iraqi accent on the show. Jin speaks perfect english but speaks Korean on the show.

I still think Regina sounded like Naomi.

The thing I found odd about Elsa's bracelet was that Sayid hadn't noticed it before. This leads one to believe that Elsa deliberately only put it on after she shot Sayid and blew her own cover, and that it was important for her to wear it when she meets with her boss. She is obviously a well trained agent...
Call boss, check, shoot lover, check, get dressed check, put on bracelet, check.

No, you're not the only one. See my post a few threads above yours. :)



Are you saying the actress Zoe Bell is from NZ? If so that hardly matters for the show. Remember Naveen has a British accent IRL but has an Iraqi accent on the show. Jin speaks perfect english but speaks Korean on the show.

I still think Regina sounded like Naomi.

I'm saying that many Americans can't tell the difference among the various British and British colonial accents. The two women have completely different accents and I could distinguish them.. Neither was assuming an accent different from her natural one.

Cardie

I didnt go through all of the posts (just 5 pages..) so sorry if this was mentioned,

No one finds the RG initials odd? when you give a piece of jewelry you want it to be very personal, so lets say Robert Goodwin gave it to her, he would probably with just R, unless his first name has 2 names, like Ana Lucia.
Or its from some employer, but than the writing on the bracelet seem too personal.

Also the fact that Sayid cared too much for Naomi, as been mentioned, doesnt seem to me like a clue. Naomi as some resemblence to Nadia, so it could steer some emotions in him. He also saw Shannon die, which could also be a reminder of that. Also being initially on 815 to bury a friend support his caring for her corpse.

I'm saying that many Americans can't tell the difference among the various British and British colonial accents. The two women have completely different accents and I could distinguish them.. Neither was assuming an accent different from her natural one.

Cardie

I agree and would probably go further and say most of us couldn't distinguish the difference. Which is why I think their RL citizenry doesn't matter. They sound close enough to be sisters for the show's purposes. Also, remember Liam and Charlie didn't have similar accents and they cast them as brothers.

read this. kind of coincidental: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Adventures_of_Tintin

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_714 : very coincidental.

Ooh I LIKE this theory...the story' of Flight 714 has definate 'LOST' overtones! The flight number too - if you say it out loud - is only 'one' away....ie Seven-fourteen and eight-fifteeen! ;)

I think the bracelets are tracking devices. The message "I will always be with you" is rather ominous, and that two women were wearing the same bracelet is kind of weird for the bracelet to sentimental.

As soon as someone suggested the 'tracking device' thing I thought about the 'alternative' meaning in that message! :)

For some reason, Sayid felt a very strong connection to Naomi.
They are both soldiers?
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And that the German woman is Regina on the freighter.
Remember she says "Don't I know you from somewhere?" when he first sits down in the cafe?

I'm so glad that I'm not the only person who saw that the bracelets are totally different from each other. The only similarity is that they are both silver. Naomi's is a cuff style bracelet with cut out sections, looking a bit tiffany/cartier style maybe, and Elsa's is a silver bangle with two solid bangles bound together with silver wire.

My thought was that seeing the bracelet on Elsa just reminded Sayid of Naomi and events passed.

As to the enscription on Naomi's bracelet, I have no idea, but I believe there is a significance to the message and I am sure that we will find out who RG is before too long.

He also saw Shannon die, which could also be a reminder of that. Also being initially on 815 to bury a friend support his caring for her corpse.

And he has seen far too many people die young.

The only person I recall that has a last name begining with G is Gale as in Henry Gale, the real Gale who landed in a balloon on our lovely island. Could Naomi have a connection?

Thank you anti- hero for the screencaps. I was going nuts with everyone saying that the bracelets were the same when they looked quite different to me. I'm not necessarily ruling out a connection between the bracelets though.

If Naomi did receive her bracelet from an employer and it is being used a tracking device, I'm thinking that he/she would probably not use their real initials as they wouldn't want to be identified in the event the bracelet was found by someone. I think R.G. probably means something but I'm thinking it's not someone's initials.

On the other hand, if it was given as a personal gift, then real initials would make sense!

It being a personal gift doesn't make sense to me. Naomi is a well-trained professional on a secret mission. Wearing a personal item in this situation seems so amateurish to me.

On the other hand, what kind of an employer would give their employees some jewellery with such "romantic" words encraved on? A spiritual leader, maybe.

On the other hand, what kind of an employer would give their employees some jewellery with such "romantic" words encraved on? A spiritual leader, maybe.

To make it look like the bracelet was a personal gift. If someone other than Sayid or someone without as much covert and "spy" experience as Sayid, it would just look like a personal item. It normally wouldn't raise any red flags. Plus, the enscription does have a double meaning.;)

I think that since we are learning so much from Ben how evil these people are, that RC and his people is who Sayeed is eliminating in the future. The freighter was sent by RC, that's why Naomi had one on. I didn't notice if Elsa wore one in the earlier scenes, but I'm sure Sayeed knew she worked for the bad people. The bracelets will be something to watch for in the future.

So, is it the consensus that there are two bracelets or just one?

The only person I recall that has a last name begining with G is Gale as in Henry Gale, the real Gale who landed in a balloon on our lovely island. Could Naomi have a connection?

How about Goodwin?

So, is it the consensus that there are two bracelets or just one?

It's been shown in a side-by-side comparison that they are two different bracelets that look a great deal alike, Saukkomies. Bummer, I say, 'cause then we'd have a wonderful new conspiracy at play or a link back to an old one.

It's been shown in a side-by-side comparison that they are two different bracelets that look a great deal alike, Saukkomies. Bummer, I say, 'cause then we'd have a wonderful new conspiracy at play or a link back to an old one.

Thanks for answering, Guin.

[quote=Parrot;1763220]I guess my mind is a bit more time-warped. Sayid purposely looked for the bracelet on Naomi, and it seemed it wasn't a surprise to him. The first thing I thought of after seeing the German woman's bracelet was that Sayid was part of the Desmondesque time iteration --like, how many times has Sayid repeated the island visitation, and was he ultimately responsible for the bracelet on Naomi? Was it a personal clue to him that something bizarre was going on, that is now rising to his consciousness, just like Desmond's visions?

I think the fact that Sayid wanted on the boat after seeing the bracelet is important. He finds the bracelet on Naomi, takes it, the pops up and says he wants on the chopper. He also makes a point to touch and look at the German woman's bracelet. If I have learned one thing from watching this show, it is that when they make a point of these things it is for a reason! So maybe we need less focus on the similarity between the bracelets and more on Sayid's reaction to them.:biggrin:

It looks to me like those are the same style bracelets (or the same bracelet) shown from a different angle. I'm not sure what the point would be of showing that bracelets if they were just similar anyway?

My guess is that Elsa and Naomi were hired and working for the same person, whomever R.G. turns out to be. The bracelets could be a trademark to show each other that they work for the same person should they cross paths?

I certainly hope this comes up again. It seems to be an important item that was focused on.

What if the bracelet was a present from Sayid to Nadia - using the fake initials RG as in republican guard as he couldn't have put his own initials on?

Loving this season :)

Ack. Somebody has to do it: Regina starts with an R - a woman as yet known to us only by her first name. It may be a sisterhood thing.

Lovin' it too :smile:

I think his expression would have been completely different if that was the fact. He seemed more curious than anything, so chances are he doesn't know who it is.

I wrote the below on another 'bracelet thread' this morning:

http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=89060

OOOH NOOOO! Sayid took Naomi's bracelet and then later gave it to Elsa? I had not read that anywhere else! It does make sense and is very K.I.S.S. There goes the 'It's a thing that connects all the new baddies together symbol".

We did see Sayid take it off of Naomi, no one saw him put it back onto her body, i guess?

And now some are saying it was originally Nadia's, a gift from the Republican Guard; since the initials all fit so nicely. Why, for being such a good sport torture victim?
A nice little "parting (from this life) gift"?

If Naomi has it, wouldn't that mean she killed Nadia and kept it as a 'trophy'? We know she is a 'military girl' of some sort...another 'head hunter'?

So Sayid recognized it, took it back, gave it to his next victim Elsa. Then her 'group' presumably has to do with Nadia being murdered. (which we have not seen yet, but Benry refers to when he talks to Sayid at the end of the episode?)

Is this about the jist of it all? Does any of this make any sense?

But then why wouldn't he then take it back after killing Elsa...couldn't it be traced back to him in some way?

another comment on that thread:
Elsa doesn't wear her bracelet until she's dressing to meet her "economist" boss. I think it's a clue that both women were working for the same person.

I'm not so sure, she was wearing it in bed during sex with Sayid, and before when they leave for the Opera; they just didn't zoom in on it.

Somebody on another thread (don't ask me which one, I am so confused by now!) mentioned that Juliet's sister's name was Rachel - they mentioned a last name starting with G. On imdb.com on the LOST cast page, they only list her as Rachel.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0411008/fullcredits#cast

We know Rachel was unmarried and she did have cancer, so she might not have been around forever....

Just throwing it out there for the sake of argument. Can't see how she'd otherwise relate other than this is LOST and they like to screw with our heads!

That would be very odd for anyone to sign something as personal as a bracelet "Republican Guard." Can you imagine getting a delicate bracelet from someone and they sign it U.S. Army? lol

That would be very odd for anyone to sign something as personal as a bracelet "Republican Guard." Can you imagine getting a delicate bracelet from someone and they sign it U.S. Army? lol

LOL...

another comment on that thread:
Elsa doesn't wear her bracelet until she's dressing to meet her "economist" boss. I think it's a clue that both women were working for the same person.

I'm not so sure, she was wearing it in bed during sex with Sayid, and before when they leave for the Opera; they just didn't zoom in on it.

That was me. And I was wrong. :biggrin: You are correct, she is wearing it in bed with Sayid before her employer pages her. See, it is worthwhile to watch the epis a few times. ;)

As for the Republican Guard = RG, I just think it doesn't fit the sentiments of the inscription. Plus, Sayid was a torturer with the Rep. Guard. I don't think Nadia would want to be reminded of that time.

I think it's a clue and that's why Sayid took it off of Naomi's body and was looking at it when asking Miles questions about her shortly after as they went off to get Charlotte.

This is a long shot, well actualy a very long shot but here goes. RG was once put on compendiums (an instrument used much like a compass) heres a link.

http://books.google.com/books?id=PLC_U2rnLbYC&pg=PA263&lpg=PA263&dq=compendium+rg+initials&source=web&ots=LB1Vm2bRRw&sig=qukLZKU84FZ2EXxAnGUCKQ3SDRM

(lol) I don't know .......you never know with this show (lol)

This is a long shot, well actualy a very long shot but here goes. RG was once put on compendiums (an instrument used much like a compass) heres a link.

http://books.google.com/books?id=PLC_U2rnLbYC&pg=PA263&lpg=PA263&dq=compendium+rg+initials&source=web&ots=LB1Vm2bRRw&sig=qukLZKU84FZ2EXxAnGUCKQ3SDRM

(lol) I don't know .......you never know with this show (lol)

Long shot, but intriguing!

Was the inscription "R.G." or "R.C."? I couldn't tell.

This is a long shot, well actualy a very long shot but here goes. RG was once put on compendiums (an instrument used much like a compass) heres a link.

http://books.google.com/books?id=PLC_U2rnLbYC&pg=PA263&lpg=PA263&dq=compendium+rg+initials&source=web&ots=LB1Vm2bRRw&sig=qukLZKU84FZ2EXxAnGUCKQ3SDRM

(lol) I don't know .......you never know with this show (lol)


Heh, that was pretty cool though.

That would be very odd for anyone to sign something as personal as a bracelet "Republican Guard." Can you imagine getting a delicate bracelet from someone and they sign it U.S. Army? lol

There would be quite a bit of explaining to your folks, that's for sure.
"I'm just supporting the troops Ma!"

Where do you people come up with these crazy theories?

It was clearly a gift from Rudy Giuliani. Naomi was a Republican political operative, and even though his presidential campaign went down in flames, "he'll always be with her."

Where do you people come up with these crazy theories?

It was clearly a gift from Rudy Giuliani. Naomi was a Republican political operative and even though his presidential campaign went down he flames, "he'll always be with her."
Well, I'll buy that before I buy that it was from the Republican Guard, or that Sayid gave Naomi's bracelet to Elsa!

Where do you people come up with these crazy theories?

It was clearly a gift from Rudy Giuliani. Naomi was a Republican political operative and even though his presidential campaign went down he flames, "he'll always be with her."

Thanks for that! Saves me alot of work. Best way to get an answer.... play dumb. If you build it, they will come. But I got to tell ya, I like what I came up with better. Ya know get the whole compass thing going agian and the intials appear on an old acient compendium. Then wed have to find the original keeper of the compendium that sort of thing.......

Anyway there are a ton of ideas of who RG might be on the forums through out the net...

But if its RC hmmmm
RC refers to "Real Church" it also refers to the Roman Church also check this out, EIGHT just posted about this on another thread and I noticed something - look here, read under history
http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:bDyhHy3ui2IJ:www.theinfovault.net/vault/spirituality/georiaguidestones.html+tree+of+life+and+the+initia ls+RC&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=us
Now read this
http://books.google.com/books?id=M5-G3QbtAp8C&pg=PA60&lpg=PA60&dq=rosicrucian+order+and+the+intials+rc&source=web&ots=A34R-amzZC&sig=0G5GdVZNrwH6NJheRmpbM7Zi-Tw
Oh there are alot of connection beond the characters with the RC, its end less.
The Soviet Police use the intials RC
The Rose Cross secret society is RC now refered to as the Golden Dawn Society

I could do alot more with RC does anyone know for sure if its RG or RC or is Rudy Giuliani correct?? Anyone know?

It is R.C

Raymond Chop-Suey

A chinese restaurant owner, not yet introduced in the plot. Naomi was married to him.

Sayid recognized the bracelet because Elsa had received similar from her Big Boss, Liu Onion.

It is R.C

Raymond Chop-Suey

A chinese restaurant owner, not yet introduced in the plot. Naomi was married to him.

Sayid recognized the bracelet because Elsa had received similar from her Big Boss, Liu Onion.


Well now that explains everything, its making sense to me now ,NOT! Man how these writers mess with our heads. I should have known, Raymond Chop Suey of course.

Liu Onion did I miss him/her somewhere can someone give me a link????? Or are you now messing with my head???

perhaps RC is Red Crescent - Sayid would care about that (and I can factor in Goodwin's Peace Corps as an interconnectivity moment - but it may take me some time ;) )

Well now that explains everything, its making sense to me now ,NOT! Man how these writers mess with our heads. I should have known, Raymond Chop Suey of course.

Liu Onion did I miss him/her somewhere can someone give me a link????? Or are you now messing with my head???

We see Liu's eye in Jacobs cabin. He was in the middle of cooking mandarin ox when Hurley bumped in. That's why he looks so angry. He thought Hurley was going to eat it all.

http://www.lostisagame.com/photos/401/eye_inside_cabin1.jpg

What if the bracelet was a present from Sayid to Nadia - using the fake initials RG as in republican guard as he couldn't have put his own initials on?

Loving this season :)

Glad to see this thread has taken the proper direction. :biggrin:

But my stubborn common sense forces me to say:
a. It makes no sense for the initials to be "Republican Guard" - it was clearly from a person not an organization, because it was signed Love,

b. If it were from Sayid to Nadia it would have been in Arabic script.

What I wondered was why Sayid was so intrugued by the bracelet on the island, and yet seemed indifferent to the similar braclet in the flash forward. To me, this says that many of Sayid's targets may be wearing this style of bracelet.

What it doesn't explain, is why Sayid was so interested in that bracelet in the first place? Unless he's just a scavenger.

And finally, RG = Republican Guard. I'm voting no.

Maybe it's an annogram for GR. :eek2:

Just for those who don't know my sense of humor, I was joking on this thread. Making fun of how we get soooo "into" researching the clues.

I was also thinking perhaps the letter N goes with RC or RG.

NRC NRG or CRN GRN it may be a way for them to reconize each other. Maybe the N does'nt stand for Nioami. I tried using numberology for the letters but came up with nothing. I find it funny if it were from a "lover' to have both the first and last letters of the person name. Say if it was from Jack Sheppard would he sing it, love JS on a gift to his lover. If that were the case would'nt he have it signed maybe just love J? If he only used the N letter to repersent Niaomi. Most lovers use a nickname its just unusal to sign something to a lover with both of your intials. If you give you lover a card you signed it love Mary, love Bob, love Sugar Buns or something like that. If Jack Smith gives Mary Smith a bracelet would he signed it JS (Jack Smith). It just does'nt sound right to me.

maybe CR or GR??? I really need to re watch all of this. I was'nt a faithfull fan for the first two seasons it was the thrid season that "hooked" me in. So I've missed alot.

Well, apparently the Lord of the Bracelets likes their covert ops/assassins/ninjas to be smoking hotties and to be quick on the draw and all I can think is Faster Puzzycat Kill! Kill! (I also find it hilarious that if you spell Puzzycat the correct way the message board censor program will substitute Puzzy spelled correctly with "royale with cheese" which turned it into "Royale With Cheesecat Kill! Kill!"--too funny!).

We know from the conversation with Abaddon that Naomi is obviously a highly trained operative with advanced skill sets. When she asks for extra muscle he thinks she's enough, so apparently we have one badass operative who can pull a gun and triple tap on somebody in the blink of an eye. She was probably highly trained in hand-to hand and other skill sets. My money's on her probably being an ex-IDF (Israeli Defense Force) or Mossad operative, as in Israel the women serve compulsory military service and this training and advanced training could provide her with those advanced skill sets.
Probably some type of military background though, wherever she was trained.

Now, "her boss is not an economist", but did we ever find out if her boss is male? I thought I heard a him reference but without checking back I can't be sure. But, it seems like there is a lot of "GIRLPOWER!" at work here and how do we know that their "top boss", "el jefe" or whatever isn't a female? (Ms. Hawking anyone? Remember, she wasn't really a jewelry store clerk she just plays one on TV...). And another thing-do these girls, Naomi and Elsa, remind anyone of Bonnie and her partner who were manning the Looking Glass? They seemed very competent, in shape, and weren't messing around, and seemed to me to have had some training themselves.

And last but certainly not least, the inscription: "N-I'll always be around-RG". What I think strikes me the most about this is that everybody is supposed to think this is a lovey-dovey expression of eternal devotion, and maybe it is but just in a different way. When she was dying, she didn't say "Tell RG I'll always be around" or "Tell RG love and goodbye", so I don't know how deep the emotional significance of the bracelet really goes. But, this is what I got out of it: N+RG = NRG = Energy. Energy! I'll always be around-as Energy. Weird thought I know, but that's what struck me.

Jacob takes flashlight energy and uses it to materialize and then I think about Ms. Klugh being unafraid to die and chanting "Only fools are enslaved by time and space", and Desmond with "I'll see ya in the next life brotha" and then I hear Stevie Ray/Jimmy Hendrix in my head singing "If I don't see ya again in this life brotha, I'll see ya in the next...don't be late!...don't be late!...cause I'm a voodoo chile yeahhh"...something will probably immediately happen to change my take on this, this is just the vibe I'm getting from things right now I guess...(<>..<>)

<-- totally posting in the spirit intended. I like to post silly theory to balance out the fury I read expended over characters. ;smile: ...and then knock a few character heads together myself and see if I don't get lucky accidentally with an actually correct factoid. ;)

<-- totally posting in the spirit intended. I like to post silly theory to balance out the fury I read expended over characters. ;smile: ...and then knock a few character heads together myself and see if I don't get lucky accidentally with an actually correct factoid. ;)

Oh me too, I was trying to have some fun with it rather then be soooooo serious all the time. Or play the game of who knows more about anything and everything. A game I call The Fools Game.:)

Where do you people come up with these crazy theories?

It was clearly a gift from Rudy Giuliani. Naomi was a Republican political operative, and even though his presidential campaign went down in flames, "he'll always be with her."

LOL I gotta admit that this is pretty creative and funny. I think this is the best theory yet!
100%
Just for those who don't know my sense of humor, I was joking on this thread. Making fun of how we get soooo "into" researching the clues.

I was also thinking perhaps the letter N goes with RC or RG.

NRC NRG or CRN GRN it may be a way for them to reconize each other. Maybe the N does'nt stand for Nioami. I tried using numberology for the letters but came up with nothing. I find it funny if it were from a "lover' to have both the first and last letters of the person name. Say if it was from Jack Sheppard would he sing it, love JS on a gift to his lover. If that were the case would'nt he have it signed maybe just love J? If he only used the N letter to repersent Niaomi. Most lovers use a nickname its just unusal to sign something to a lover with both of your intials. If you give you lover a card you signed it love Mary, love Bob, love Sugar Buns or something like that. If Jack Smith gives Mary Smith a bracelet would he signed it JS (Jack Smith). It just does'nt sound right to me.

maybe CR or GR??? I really need to re watch all of this. I was'nt a faithfull fan for the first two seasons it was the thrid season that "hooked" me in. So I've missed alot.

So if it was Ana Lucia would she initialize it as A or AL?

There would be quite a bit of explaining to your folks, that's for sure.
"I'm just supporting the troops Ma!"

(LOL) I just saw this. Hey what can I say this brings a whole new meaning to "If you got it, Flaunt It!" This is a very interesting Island!

You know I was thinking maybe we should start a thread called LOST-ReWrite. Come up with different meanings for the clues and create our own story that way were always right! (LOL) I bet ya we could come up with a pretty interesting story, pretty funny too. We could divide it into season 1, 2, 3, 4, exc...Like some of the games on the boards keep building on each others thoughts until we create the idea once a section has been created by things peole throw out and its agreed upon. Creating the story in an offline file like DOCs ideas for people to go to to read each area but throwing the ideas out on the actual thread. Anyone game on praticipating in something like that. Who knows we could create a master piece by addding interging stuff, funny stuff. Another thing that I find amazing is what you can come up with just by typing things like RC and RG into the search engines and getting ideas, the things the search engines bring up are amazing and sometimes could actualy fit into the story even though it really has nothing to do with it. Think it would be fun thread? Who knows we could come up with LOST 11 for fans by fans idea like the forum Lost.tv. If we do a good job someone might even pick it up and do something with it, well maybe thats a strech but I could see alot of things happening from this.
Any Takers????

Damon mentioned the bracelets in a new interview with EW (http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20179125_2,00.html):

DAMON LINDELOF: Naomi's bracelet in the Sayid episode is a key point here. I got some e-mails from people who wondered if there was a connection between Naomi's bracelet and the bracelet worn by the woman Sayid killed in his flash-forward. There is no connective tissue. Sometimes a bracelet is just a bracelet. We just thought it would be a cool emotional touchstone for Sayid; Elsa's bracelet reminds him of Naomi. But some people interpreted that, ''Is there something more there?'' We might need to address that.

The inscription reads: N, I'll always be with you. R.G. Interesting that N, R, and G are all capitalized.

N-Naomi?
R-Regina?
G-?

Or NRG=energy? Like the energy on the island? Maybe they are working for the island!!! We will have to check Daniel's wrist to see if he has one, since he is a physicist. :biggrin:

sounds fun!

So that is the end on the bracelet discussion. sheesh. " we thought it would be cool". don't they know what an overanalysing crowd we are? :hypocrit:

forget the bracelet. No special meanintg there, according to Darlton talk here
http://www.ew.com/ew

So that is the end on the bracelet discussion. sheesh. " we thought it would be cool". don't they know what an overanalysing crowd we are? :hypocrit:

And let this be a lesson to you all!!! ;)

Also, in the same interview he explains basically what was going on when Penny called the Bunny Hatch. I won't go into details as it might undermine some of the more insane theories, and ruin your fun. :rolleyes:

Good Luck! Coca-Cola1 - I'm thinking what we're missing is a confessional "I was wrong" thread - where the shamed-faced but sporting can remind us what they said then, in face of what we now know. :biggrin:

3 epis in and I've been wrong twice already. lol.

That one I like! I'd be able to apologize for all my theories. All of them!

forget the bracelet. No special meanintg there, according to Darlton talk here
http://www.ew.com/ew
In light of new evidence, I'm going with the idea that the bracelet on both women serve as a way to tie the 2 incidents together. I have a feeling that maybe Sayid bringing Naoimi's body into the helicopter is the moment that Ben was referring to when he said, "These people don't deserve our sympathies. Remember what happened the last time you thought with your heart instead of your gun?" (paraphrasing)

The bracelet symbolizes the similarity of these two events.

Well at this point my general theory does not seem all that wrong. I just did'nt display
it right so now its in the Past Theories, It was'nt a new theory though ,I was just tyring to show the idea wih use of videos. But according to this last article with the writers, quantam psyics, string theory, special realitivty all fit in. It is the only way to really explain the time problems.

I like the Lost Rewrite idea but wed have to have some people to work on it and we all have soooo much time for that don't we.? (lol)

(LOL) I just saw this. Hey what can I say this brings a whole new meaning to "If you got it, Flaunt It!" This is a very interesting Island!

You know I was thinking maybe we should start a thread called LOST-ReWrite. Come up with different meanings for the clues and create our own story that way were always right! (LOL) I bet ya we could come up with a pretty interesting story, pretty funny too. We could divide it into season 1, 2, 3, 4, exc...Like some of the games on the boards keep building on each others thoughts until we create the idea once a section has been created by things peole throw out and its agreed upon. Creating the story in an offline file like DOCs ideas for people to go to to read each area but throwing the ideas out on the actual thread. Anyone game on praticipating in something like that. Who knows we could create a master piece by addding interging stuff, funny stuff. Another thing that I find amazing is what you can come up with just by typing things like RC and RG into the search engines and getting ideas, the things the search engines bring up are amazing and sometimes could actualy fit into the story even though it really has nothing to do with it. Think it would be fun thread? Who knows we could come up with LOST 11 for fans by fans idea like the forum Lost.tv. If we do a good job someone might even pick it up and do something with it, well maybe thats a strech but I could see alot of things happening from this.
Any Takers????

LOL! I like it! A search engine story. :biggrin: And no dragging out the answers for 3 flippin' years! :rolleyes:

Good Luck! Coca-Cola1 - I'm thinking what we're missing is a confessional "I was wrong" thread - where the shamed-faced but sporting can remind us what they said then, in face of what we now know. :biggrin:

3 epis in and I've been wrong twice already. lol.

Oh, I did that confessional thing recently, maybe even on this thread. I thought that Elsa wasn't wearing her bracelet until she put on her dress to meet her boss. Wrong! :redface:

In light of new evidence, I'm going with the idea that the bracelet on both women serve as a way to tie the 2 incidents together. I have a feeling that maybe Sayid bringing Naoimi's body into the helicopter is the moment that Ben was referring to when he said, "These people don't deserve our sympathies. Remember what happened the last time you thought with your heart instead of your gun?" (paraphrasing)

The bracelet symbolizes the similarity of these two events.

I've said all along that line of Ben's ties into Sayid suggesting they take Naomi's body back with them, especially since it came right after the Sayid/Naomi/helicopter scene. Maybe we'll get some answers tonight, or at least I hope so. Now watch, they won't show any freighter stuff for weeks. :mad:

ok Naomi's message was about her sister we know she didn't have any sister now...but this story reminds me of Juliet's story...Juliet's sister seems to be very important to her...and juliet's sister name is: Rachel Carlson ...RC are we so sure it's RG on the bracelet...because i don't know if it's a G or a C.

R could be Regina too.

Other idea ...we know that Charlotte has two other sisters...i always thought during epi 3 that Elsa and Charlotte have something in commun physically...maybe Elsa is one of Charlotte's sister ????

Or maybe it's just sayid who gave the bracelet to Elsa...but i don't believe it because there was something written in it...so it wouldn't have been a cool gift to make to a woman you love and he could have compromised him knowing where and who the bracelet come from...
So i'm gonna go with the idea that it was two different bracelets!

Someone other than the Six gets off the island and has Naomi's necklace, or one of the crew of the boat gets the necklace, because Sayid sees it when he kills the woman at the end of the episode.

It was a bracelet I think, and I hadn't thought of that. I assumed they were the same but different ones, like a secret societies means of distinguishing each other.

That they're one in the same would be crazy. Begs the question of who could have taken it and for what purpose?

Skywalker421... what a great idea. I also believed they were different bracelets that looked alike. But what a twist it would be if they are both actually one and the same!!

I took it as Naomi and Sayid's target worked for the same people. Like the bracelets were dog tags. I'm still...uncomfortable with the alternate universe time loop theories

Damon and Carlton have clarified in a podcast what the significance of the bracelets is. They aren't the same and don't indicate any actual link between Naomi and Elsa. They just put in the parallel to reinforce that the grief for an adversary Sayid was feeling was the same in both instances. It was a symbolic, not a literal connection.

Cardie