Why is Sayid so concerened with getting Naomi's body back to the ship?

Respect, it seems. Although this is Lost, and it could be anything!

some way reminded hm of shanon, imo

I think there's some familiarity between them, at least to some small degree. Plus I wouldn't be surprised if he hid something on her body that he will later use to his advantage when he gets back to the ship. I'm betting they get searched pretty thoroughly when they get to the boat, but how closely would they search a body?

I think there's some familiarity between them, at least to some small degree. Plus I wouldn't be surprised if he hid something on her body that he will later use to his advantage when he gets back to the ship. I'm betting they get searched pretty thoroughly when they get to the boat, but how closely would they search a body?

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There must be some significance to Naomi or her body still. They're placed a special emphasis on it in each episode thus far. Most of the deceased are just buried and the story moves on.

Sayid I also think hid something on Naomi's body. I think we saw a flash forward, a sneaky one, hidden inside the EP. By the time Sayid leaves he is now working for Ben.

I'm not saying any of you are wrong, but remember, reverence for bodies has always been an issue with Sayid . . . from not wanting to burn the dead in the fuselage, to wanting to stay in Oz and bury Essam, to having an emotional breakdown when "Henry" didn't remember how how many shovelsful of dirt it would take to bury his "wife"

I'm not saying any of you are wrong, but remember, reverence for bodies has always been an issue with Sayid . . . from not wanting to burn the dead in the fuselage, to wanting to stay in Oz and bury Essam, to having an emotional breakdown when "Henry" didn't remember how how many shovelsful of dirt it would take to bury his "wife"

Very good point. He may have hidden something, but his reverence for dead bodies is in sharp contrast to Miles' view.

I think there's some familiarity between them, at least to some small degree. Plus I wouldn't be surprised if he hid something on her body that he will later use to his advantage when he gets back to the ship. I'm betting they get searched pretty thoroughly when they get to the boat, but how closely would they search a body?

That would be a very Sayid thing to do. What would he hide on her body, I wonder . . .


I'm not saying any of you are wrong, but remember, reverence for bodies has always been an issue with Sayid . . . from not wanting to burn the dead in the fuselage, to wanting to stay in Oz and bury Essam, to having an emotional breakdown when "Henry" didn't remember how how many shovelsful of dirt it would take to bury his "wife"

This is also very true, but I think the "Henry" thing was more because Sayid had just lost someone he loved on the island, so he was reliving it.

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There must be some significance to Naomi or her body still. They're placed a special emphasis on it in each episode thus far. Most of the deceased are just buried and the story moves on.

Agreed that there has been an unusual amount of emphasis on Naomi's body. Good theory about Sayid hiding something on her.

I'm betting they get searched pretty thoroughly when they get to the boat, but how closely would they search a body?Although I think the idea of Sayid hiding something on Naomi's body makes sense... I think that a dead body would get searched pretty thouroughly. Wouldn't they do some type of autopsy on her before she is buried?

Also, I do agree that they're not done with Naomi (or her body), because they do keep showing her pretty prominately in every episode. If she's really dead and meaningless to the story, you think they'd have just done away with her.

Maybe she reminds him of Nadia. I think the bracelet is intriguing. Elsa had a similar one. did Sayid take it from Naomi and gave it to Elsa? The bracelet did trigger somereaction from him when he saw it on Naomi, that is when he dediced he wanted to leave the island at any cost. There is something with this bracelet... :confused:

I could have sworn that after he killed Elsa and touched her hand, I saw Naomi's bracelet. I have to look again. Yeah, theres definitely something going on there if that much is true.

eta: lol annione beat me to the post. Yes I agree!

My assumption was that Elsa and Naomi both had bracelets given to them by their mysterious employer. I don't think Sayid gave Elsa Naomi's bracelet.

I agree that Naomi's bracelet seemed to trigger something in Sayid.

I don't know if this has been brought up yet. But why are we still seeing Naomi's body? Usually on tv they just cover it up so the actor doesn't have to be there. Why are they still using her. It also seemed important for them to put her on the helicoptor over anyone else (from the writers perspective.) You know what would be interesting.... if she came back to life once she left the island.

I don't know if this has been brought up yet. But why are we still seeing Naomi's body? Usually on tv they just cover it up so the actor doesn't have to be there. Why are they still using her. It also seemed important for them to put her on the helicoptor over anyone else (from the writers perspective.) You know what would be interesting.... if she came back to life once she left the island.

Another thread thinks Sayid hid a gun under her blanket for help in case the freighties are a problem...also to show the bracelet.

I also think it's very strange that 3 episodes in and we're still messing around with Naomi's dead body. Beyond the weird fact of keeping an actor around for weeks of shooting to play herslf dead...this has got to be a first or at least a record at playing dead onscreen, three episodes and counting looks like she's back next week too. The whole thing seems very weird & suspicious to me....something is up...I really look for her to resurrect before we're done with her. It would be really freaky if she comes alive on the helicopter....I think Naomi will rise again!!!

I'm going to throw this in here...

Remember when they first found Naomi and brought Sayid in to question her? He was skeptical and she made a point of asking his name and then said "Well Sayid Jarrah, remind me not to rescue you". I keep thinking that's gotta to come back somehow.

Yeah, it is weird that they keep showing her, it's very reminscent of how they kept showing Nikki and Paolo and we did find out they were in fact still alive. Naomi may just come back.

Hmm... just throwing this out there, but I don't think it's right: if Charlie in "Beginning of the End" was The Monster, I've been wondering how it could've gotten off The Island. Perhaps The Monster has taken the form of Naomi's body to escape.

I also think it's very strange that 3 episodes in and we're still messing around with Naomi's dead body. Beyond the weird fact of keeping an actor around for weeks of shooting to play herslf dead...this has got to be a first or at least a record at playing dead onscreen, three episodes and counting looks like she's back next week too. The whole thing seems very weird & suspicious to me....something is up...I really look for her to resurrect before we're done with her. It would be really freaky if she comes alive on the helicopter....I think Naomi will rise again!!!

FWIW I thought one purpose of having her in the episode was to tie her to Elsa, both with the bracelets and the way Sayid closed their eyelids.

At first the pilot says they'll take her on the 2nd trip then next thing we know there she goes with Sayid & Desmond on the first trip (and the blanket gets pulled down again showing her dead face after Sayid closes her eyes & covers her up...weird to keep showing her dead face) I'm suspicious......I think Naomi will rise again......

darkufo's blog (http://losteastereggs.blogspot.com/)has something interesting about naomi. in last week's epi, remember when miles was communing with naomi's dead body. he was mumbling something. well, someone has slowed it down and reversed it. they think miles is saying "You gotta see it through."

I think this means Naomi is either not dead or somehow gets reanimated (perhaps by smokey the ghost).

If Naomi rises again (which Im getting that same feeling like many of you have stated), that would be great and very interesting if it happened on the helicopter lol.
Naomi is very very easy on the eyes, bring her back dabnabit. lol




"dude, you got some Arzt on you"

Something has been "off" with her death from the beginning. Remember the island has an unusual ability to heal, I would not be surprised at all if she were still alive.

I could not agree more!

Every time they showed Naomi's body I kept wait for her to open her eyes.

Although, now I'm not so sure she will come back since they are moving her body from the healing power of the island.

Maybe Sayid realizes that she's not dead. Did Jack ever pronounce her dead?

This could also explain why she got a flashback even though we thought she was dead.

Why is Sayid so concerened with getting Naomi's body back to the ship?

Maybe he wanted her to have a proper burial. But then again they do keep focusing on her so maybe there is some significance and Sayid seems to be intrigued by the bracelate that Naomi is wearing. Could this somehow be tied to what Ben says "remember what happened last time you thought with your heart instead of your gun?"

darkufo's blog (http://losteastereggs.blogspot.com/)has something interesting about naomi. in last week's epi, remember when miles was communing with naomi's dead body. he was mumbling something. well, someone has slowed it down and reversed it. they think miles is saying "You gotta see it through."

that's very creepy! i'm in full support of this regeneration theory.

I bet Marsha never dreamed she'd be playing Naomi's Dead body for so long. At this rate she will have longed more episodes as a stiff deathy quiet Naomi than as a fibbing living one.
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That should be "Logged more episodes" (always proof read before posting lol)

The scenes with Naomi's body were probably all filmed at the same time for use in the various episodes where they would be needed. That way the actress would not have to hang around Hawaii once her scenes were done.

Maybe she got bitten by one of those spiders in Expose and it just looked like she died from the gunshot wound. :) That would explain why Lapidus's name appears in both episodes. It's off the wall, but this is Lost. Plus, there has to be some reason that they went into the whole spider thing besides just killing off two random characters.

It does seem a waste of a good spider story

Naomi is not done yet!

As far as keeping the actor around, that shouldn't be too much of a stretch. I'm confident we'll see her in other flash backs. Now if she starts showing up in flash flowards...now that's a different deal :)

Maybe she got bitten by one of those spiders in Expose and it just looked like she died from the gunshot wound. :) That would explain why Lapidus's name appears in both episodes. It's off the wall, but this is Lost. Plus, there has to be some reason that they went into the whole spider thing besides just killing off two random characters.

Lapidus' name? Frank?

As for Naomi coming back....I definitely always had that feeling, it's a possibility, even though I know those sneaky writers like to toy with us. If they did it right (which I'm sure they would) it would be really cool, especially if was somehow tied into the healing powers of the island or some sort of time anomoly. There's no doubt it's strange she's had so much post-life screen time.

I find it strange too that they have kept a dead body around this long. Mostly because they have to pay the actress for every episode she is in. Pretty expensive for just a dead body, when they could have easily worked around using a dummy body or an extra to play Naomi's dead body without showing the face. Either they really, really liked the actress enough to play a dead body or she isn't dead somehow.

Ugh, the writers have dipped into the "I'm not dead yet!" well waaaay too many times. That's one trope they seriously need to retire.

I liked Naomi as well, but I hate that TPTB keep recycling the same tired "twists."
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I find it strange too that they have kept a dead body around this long. Mostly because they have to pay the actress for every episode she is in.She may have been contracted for a set number of episodes.

I assume she'll at least appear in the freighties' flashbacks, which might be another reason why they're keeping her around...

You know, I've listened to that sound clip a couple of dozen times, and I keep hearing "You've gotta' stay the term".

Miles fought putting Naomi's body on the helicopter. Could it be he knows she needs to stay on the island in order to be "healed"?

It is weird they've made such a point to show her so much, and when Sayid closed her eyes with his hand I was like "it's about time someone did that! Sheesh!" I can believe he might have hid something on her, just in case she was taken with them on the flight. Doesn't mean he will have an opportunity to retrieve it once on the boat though.

Others have said it's "you've gotta see this through" it definately is him saying something.......backwards.....what's up with that. are the writers just jerking us around, putting in more backward talking....hummm.
I still think something is up.

Here's a wild thought....if the spiders were used, maybe Miles knew it was a temporary effect & wanted the body left so she could come back "alive"
He wasn't there to see that they took her anyway so we don't get to see what his reaction may have been...
How long did the spider venom make one appear dead again...8 hrs...I can't remember
Maybe she'll come to on the Helicopter,,,,,,wahaaa

Probably she's dead & nothing will happen the creators just thought the shot of her dead face was worth repeating and repeating.

She is a cute little thing. I, for one, wouldn't mind her getting a little more face time.:)

Lapidus' name? Frank?

No, Lapidus was a name in the Expose script as well.

The name is Rick Lapidus
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darkufo's blog (http://losteastereggs.blogspot.com/)has something interesting about naomi. in last week's epi, remember when miles was communing with naomi's dead body. he was mumbling something. well, someone has slowed it down and reversed it. they think miles is saying "You gotta see it through."

I think this means Naomi is either not dead or somehow gets reanimated (perhaps by smokey the ghost).

I agree there is something strange about the focus on Naomi's body, but I think the Mile's was referring to the death process and making a transition from living to dead.

She has been shown dead for 4 episodes in row to show something real important

Her body may have been brought by the writers to show how it reacts through the wornhole

She may rapidly decompose, disappear, or even come back to life. One thing for sure there is a reason well beyond Sayids compassion.

She has been shown dead for 4 episodes in row to show something real important

Her body may have been brought by the writers to show how it reacts through the wornhole

She may rapidly decompose, disappear, or even come back to life. One thing for sure there is a reason well beyond Sayids compassion.

Maybe that is what is going to happen. Maybe they will jump forward in time and their bodies will age really quickly. This is how they can explain Walt's aging too. If that happens does that mean that Desmond, Sayid, and Lapidus will be x amount of years in the future.
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So if you can say that when you leave the island and jump forward in time does it mean the same when you go to the island? Will you go back X amount of years? Is that how Christian Shepard is alive?

She has been shown dead for 4 episodes in row to show something real important

Her body may have been brought by the writers to show how it reacts through the wornhole

She may rapidly decompose, disappear, or even come back to life. One thing for sure there is a reason well beyond Sayids compassion.


I agree there is another reason Naomi's body went with them...it sure seems they're setting us up for something to happen...& I think something weird will happen on the chopper. The way Daniel says to Frank don't change course no matter what happens then repeats no matter what happens. Seems they are setting things up for something to happen that will make staying on course difficult (or impossible) and I think dead Naomi will figure into this equation somehow.
Of course with LOST you just never know what will or will not happen so we'll see....I know my interest has been keenly peeked & I can't wait to see what happens next (as usual).

The name is Rick Lapidus
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Thank you. My point is that the name LAPIDUS is the same.

Sayid I also think hid something on Naomi's body. I think we saw a flash forward, a sneaky one, hidden inside the EP. By the time Sayid leaves he is now working for Ben.


I am agreeing along these lines....

okay, I had to go back and watch the whole first scene again because it was bothering me. Sayid is meditating. We hear background noises of birds, the other people takling about Ben, then a mechanical type sound (rotors in the wind?) and THEN, turn the volume up, a sigh/groan, definitely human. You do not even have to have the volume up super loud to hear it. Sayid immediately opens his eyes and gets up in response. As noted elsewhere, he does not bow as if he was finishing his prayers. He proceeds directly to Naomi's body. In the screenshots, her eyes appear CLOSED. I freezeframed several frames. He gets to her, the shot changes to her eyes, OPEN, and he gently closes them. He covers her head with the blanket, and then notices her arm sticking out of the blanket with the band/bracelet on it.

Something is going on with Naomi. I think she will come to on the flight back to the Freighter, or Sayid will use his knowledge that she is still alive to his advantage.

I think it would be a great twist and would tie in with the Island healing people thing already long established but that the Freighties maybe don't know about. Miles may know she isn't dead judgeing from his conversation with her but he ain't telling either.

I previously posted about Sayid's abrupt mediation stop. And furthered with how intense he seemed as he walked toward Naomi. Ignoring completely the argument going on around him. When he finished with Naomi, he then took charge concerning finding Charlotte etc. As if he made up his mind as he knelt there. Certainly something going on.

Yup--Ed, I think we're going to see some more of Naomi in the coming eps! Bring it on! :smile: I hope it doesn't get dropped in the haste to put out more eps in less time though---

No, Lapidus was a name in the Expose script as well.

Okay, so what does that mean? Seems like it can't be a coincidence, can it? Do we know anything about Rick Lapidus other than the fact that his name was on the script?

Why is Sayid so concerened with getting Naomi's body back to the ship?
It is one of the three elements included in this episode to emphasize Sayid's religiousness. The other two were him praying, and him looking at the Quran on Ben's bookshelf, and touching it.
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and THEN, turn the volume up, a sigh/groan, definitely human.

It's an insect flying by. It sounds a little like a moan, but when you listen carefully, it's not.

Yes... Sayid is up to something. I'm thinking it is in some way related to the deal he made with Locke off-screen.

what if Locke dipped that knife in that poison that those spiders produce that paralyzed Nikki and Paulo? that would explain the dead look on her face and also why she has been out so long? There wasn't that much blood, and I don't know how a knife in the back would kill someone on an island where everyone heals so quickly

what if Locke dipped that knife in that poison that those spiders produce that paralyzed Nikki and Paulo? that would explain the dead look on her face and also why she has been out so long? There wasn't that much blood, and I don't know how a knife in the back would kill someone on an island where everyone heals so quickly

I dunno... if he has stuck her with a pin or something... but a knife is pretty bad.

that would explain the dead look on her face

And there was me thinking it was because she was dead lol!!

Would Miles have been able to tell? Seems like he thought she was dead too.

Would Miles have been able to tell? Seems like he thought she was dead too.

good point, i didnt think of that. however, if Miles is indeed Ben's spy on the boat, I wonder if there was some way that Ben communicated with Miles that Locke actually did the killing, not Kate and jack.

The way they have been showing her body in the past few episodes, especially with her eyes open, does lead to suspicion.

as well as Sayids unusual behavior regarding her....long stares...more concern over her dead than alive...????

But if she was paralyzed how did she crawl off into the jungle then jump on Kate from up in a tree? The spider venom worked too fast for her to do all that,

I don't think it was the spiders venom, but I do think that you have something here. When I watched and rewatched the last couple of episodes, I can't stop thinking that we haven't seen the last of Naomi. With the weird actions of Sayid when she was lying "dead" on the ground with her eyes STILL OPEN....leads me to think something else is happening.

I don't think it was the spiders venom, but I do think that you have something here. When I watched and rewatched the last couple of episodes, I can't stop thinking that we haven't seen the last of Naomi. With the weird actions of Sayid when she was lying "dead" on the ground with her eyes STILL OPEN....leads me to think something else is happening.


my mind went to the spider too, but the actions of leaving her eyes open and then the way her head was on the pillow... it was kinda creepy, not even jack too the time to close her eyes..

that just doesnt sit right with me at all..

she's not dead yet

or coming bck to life

same with Minkowski

It bothered me also. I don't think she is dead