He seemed nervous once he found out Sayid was one of the six. The only thing i could come up with, is he's involved with the cover up or at least responsible for the crash in some way. What doy you guys think was going on with him?

What do you mean by "the cover up"?

He seemed nervous once he found out Sayid was one of the six. The only thing i could come up with, is he's involved with the cover up or at least responsible for the crash in some way. What doy you guys think was going on with him?

Seems to me that there's a lot of interest in the Island from a powerful organisation or organisations unknown. When you consider all the freaky stuff that goes on there, there has to be a way to make a lot of money from discovering and applying its secrets.


Looks like Ben and Sayid are working to protect the Island from outside influence. Seems to me that they are hunting down the powerful people who control the organisation trying to take control of the Island. I don't think it's DHARMA/Hanso ... more likely to be a consortium of powerful businessmen,quite possibly including Widmore and Paik.

Mittelos was likely a cover organisation for Ben and the Others, giving them a presence in the outside world and a way to recruit useful people like Juliet.

Looks like Ben and Sayid are working to protect the Island from outside influence. Seems to me that they are hunting down the powerful people who control the organisation trying to take control of the Island

That is what I took it as.

Seems to me that there's a lot of interest in the Island from a powerful organisation or organisations unknown. When you consider all the freaky stuff that goes on there, there has to be a way to make a lot of money from discovering and applying its secrets.


Looks like Ben and Sayid are working to protect the Island from outside influence. Seems to me that they are hunting down the powerful people who control the organisation trying to take control of the Island. I don't think it's DHARMA/Hanso ... more likely to be a consortium of powerful businessmen,quite possibly including Widmore and Paik.

Mittelos was likely a cover organisation for Ben and the Others, giving them a presence in the outside world and a way to recruit useful people like Juliet.

I agree completely so now one could conclude that Ben once having been part of the vast evil rich business men organization of corporate greed is now a rougue, a traitor. Perhaps he originally had the misguided ideals of "Dean Moriarty" & thought at one time that these men represented a way for him to finance a way for him & his followers check out of society/government & its now back-fired so he has to kill them all because what they came to be is the opposite of his original intention.

Dean Moriarty: "On the Road"
It is Dean Moriarty, in Jack Kerouac's On The Road, who represents the eternal flame of youth. He is free from responsibility, simply excited with life wanting so much to live and to get involved with people who would otherwise pay no attention to him. Dean embodied the spirit of the immortal Beat Generation itself .Post-World War Two, the fifties saw the arrival of "juvenile delinquents" who adopted an ethic at odds with most Americans. The character of Dean Moriarty is literally and figuratively the firebrand of the invincible youth culture,tremendously excited with life, the holy con-man with the shining mind. The passionate madness of life and rebellious con-man life-styles evinced in the character of Dean Moriarty are symbolic of the counter-culture of his generation.

I'm not sure Ben was ever a part of a rich, evil corporate empire.

One thing that keeps sticking with me over and over with Ben is when he said "We're the good guys." This is something he has maintained throughout. Now Sayid working for Ben would make it seem that Sayid believes Ben is, indeed, one of the good guys.

Perhaps Ben's purge of the Dharma Initiative was needed to right the world. If Widmore Industries funded the Dharma Initiative and the Dharma Initiative was nefarious in some way (and Richard Alpert and the Others knew this) wouldn't that make Ben's motives clearer?

I think that picture of Ben that Miles had with the secret room of money and clothes show that Ben interacts with the real world in ways to keep the "bad guys" away.

I'm not sure Ben was ever a part of a rich, evil corporate empire.

One thing that keeps sticking with me over and over with Ben is when he said "We're the good guys." This is something he has maintained throughout. Now Sayid working for Ben would make it seem that Sayid believes Ben is, indeed, one of the good guys.

Perhaps Ben's purge of the Dharma Initiative was needed to right the world. If Widmore Industries funded the Dharma Initiative and the Dharma Initiative was nefarious in some way (and Richard Alpert and the Others knew this) wouldn't that make Ben's motives clearer?

I think that picture of Ben that Miles had with the secret room of money and clothes show that Ben interacts with the real world in ways to keep the "bad guys" away.

I would agree it doesn't fit now/today with Ben's character, but back when it started these men who financed (even hippies need financing) Ben's (Dean Moriarty's) dream of the perfect society had what they thought were good intentions & a way to check out of society, but as the years went by, they grew older, got greedy/richer (some might say the Reagan years etc) corporate greed took over. Ben's (Moriarty's) ideal society turned into something he had not originally intended. This would account for his wanting them dead now.

I would agree it doesn't fit now/today with Ben's character, but back when it started these men who financed (even hippies need financing) Ben's (Dean Moriarty's) dream of the perfect society had what they thought were good intentions & a way to check out of society, but as the years went by, they grew older, got greedy/richer (some might say the Reagan years etc) corporate greed took over. Ben's (Moriarty's) ideal society turned into something he had not originally intended. This would account for his wanting them dead now.

This is my perspective, but I think Richard Alpert and the Others were from the Black Rock. So I don't think Ben was funded by a corporation. I think he's used "lost time" (Mittlose) to finance himself and the others and to keep the island pure and out of the evil hands of those who would use it as a weapon or for greed. Dharma was a hippie facade in the use of experiments for a corporation set on taking control of the world.

Again -- MHO.